#indieweb 2017-04-29

2017-04-29 UTC
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gRegorLove Woo, 14 registrations for IWS!
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miklb excellent
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miklb oh, I read that as IWC. But still great news
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gRegorLove Yeah, Portland. We have 7 for Bellingham, which is good for weekday events and some bumps along the planning road.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Indieweb adoption – how does a new way spread?" by Srikanth Perinkulam on 2017-04-29 https://srikanthperinkulam.com/2017/04/28/indieweb-adoption-how-does-a-new-way-spread/
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miklb way too loud in here tonight
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GWG I'll try to be quiet
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[eddie] ??
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miklb I think I've created more issues than commits tonight, but slowly starting to flesh out the theme.
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[tamaracks] chrisaldrich Well, I found the issue that was preventing the IndieWeb plugin from recognizing that three of the recommended plugins. The IndieWeb plugin looks for a slug ending in -master because they come from github, not wp.org. But the WP CLI detects the master suffix when installing from a github zip and removes it, to clean it up, I guess.
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[chrisaldrich] tamaracks I didn't know that was the case. Did you know this ^^ GWG?
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[colinwalker] Morning
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Loqi *yawn*
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[chrisaldrich] morning colinwalker
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[tamaracks] When I renamed the plugin’s directory to the way it is in the github download, then the IndieWeb plugin stopped complaining about those extensions. So, not a huge deal, but just putting that out there. ?
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[colinwalker] How's it going Chris
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[chrisaldrich] colinwalker: not bad; trying to document some indeweb set up for micro.blog
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[chrisaldrich] have you had issues getting your site verified? for some reason, mine isn't seeing the rel-me link to say it's verified despite the fact that it's there...
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[tamaracks] I was able to verify my micro.blog earlier today.
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[colinwalker] I was a late backer so only got my invite overnight. Having a mild panic over username choice seeing as you took 'c' ?
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[colinwalker] Just signed up and my blog verified fine.
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[kevinmarks] private posts << https://marrus-sh.github.io/mastodon-info/everything-you-need-to-know-about-privacy-v1.3-020170427.html
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Loqi ok, I added "https://marrus-sh.github.io/mastodon-info/everything-you-need-to-know-about-privacy-v1.3-020170427.html" to the "See Also" section of /private_posts
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[jeremycherfas] Morning colinwalker I’m going to try and verify myself this afternoon.
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[colinwalker] jeremycherfas I just added the rel="me" link to my header and it went straight through.
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[jeremycherfas] !tell colinwalker I’ve added it to the about me plugin I use on Grav, and I can see it in the page source, but it is failing to go through. Hey ho.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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skippy "This sounds like a bad idea.
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skippy It might be."
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skippy wow. At least Mastodon is honest.
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GWG Good morning
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Loqi morning!
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skippy ahoy hoy
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[kevinmarks] Not sure Allie is a formal Mastodon spokesperson, but a good explainer.
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[jeremycherfas] Wat is profile?
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[jeremycherfas] What is profile?
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Loqi Your homepage represents you on the web, typically at the top of your domain, and shows your name and an iconic representation, often marked up with h-card https://indieweb.org/profile
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[jeremycherfas] Can someone please explain the significance of `<link rel="profile" href="http://gmpg.org/xfn/11" />` in my <HEAD>?
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skippy [jeremycherfas]: http://gmpg.org/xfn/ may be a good place to start.
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skippy i dont know that XFN is used much any more, is it?
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skippy hrm.
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GWG Much no, but some yes
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[kevinmarks] Back in the xml days, that was a way to tell parsers that you were using xfn as a vocabulary.
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[kevinmarks] You can delete it, as most of that generation of parsers has died
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skippy how do I get a + next to my name? i added myself to IRC_People which indicates that's all I need.
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[kevinmarks] Xfn is used, yes. Rel=me is xfn
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[kevinmarks] But declaring profiles is over
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[kevinmarks] http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-profile
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Loqi rel profile
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[jeremycherfas] Thanks @skippy and kevinmarks. I am editing a WP theme and it is in there along with all the rel=“me” things so I think I will indeed delete it.
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[kevinmarks] !tell tantek should we mark this as deprecated? http://microformats.org/wiki/html5-profile
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi HTML5 profile attribute
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[colinwalker] jeremycherfas looks like there are issues at the moment
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Loqi [colinwalker]: [jeremycherfas] left you a message 1 hour, 6 minutes ago: I’ve added it to the about me plugin I use on Grav, and I can see it in the page source, but it is failing to go through. Hey ho.
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aaronpk skippy: it should kick in after a little while if you've just added it
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miklb skippy you also need to sacrifice a webmention on a full moon
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[jeremycherfas] colinwalker All good now.
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[colinwalker] Cool. Manton said a number of processes had stopped so obviously okay after they were restarted.
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[jeremycherfas] Are you hanging out in their Slack?
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skippy aaronpk: i added my name a couple days ago to IRC_People. Just curious.
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aaronpk oh hm, i'm not sure why then
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skippy shrugs
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Wednesday #100DoPP d97: Setup micro.blog/t Great #microformats & #indieweb support! rel=me h-feed Micropub WebSub etc. Micro.blog is using Micropub as their standard modern posting API: * http://help.micro.blog/2017/api-posting/ For publishing, in addition to RSS & JSON, micro.blog publishes rich structured feeds with microformats2! * http://help.micro.blog/2017/api-feeds/ As well as subscribes to your own personal site feed(s) using WebSub! Last but not least, instead of proprietary "verified" mechanisms, micro.blog is exclusively using the very well established rel=me microformat for website verification: * http://help.micro.blog/2017/web-site-verification/ micro.blog, at early rollout time to Kickstarter backers, is already one of the most (if not the most) indieweb friendly services out there. Well done Manton!" on 2017-04-29 http://tantek.com/2017/119/t3/micro-blog-microformats-indieweb-support
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Wednesday #100DoPP d97 Setup microblog/@t Great #microformats & #indieweb support! rel=me h-feed Micropub WebSub etc. Micro.blog is using Micropub as their standard modern posting API: * http://help.micro.blog/2017/api-posting/ For publishing, in addition to RSS & JSON, micro.blog publishes rich structured feeds with microformats2! * http://help.micro.blog/2017/api-feeds/ As well as subscribes to your own personal site feed(s) using WebSub! (which I’m doing with micro.blog/t) Last but not least, instead of proprietary "verified" mechanisms, micro.blog is exclusively using the very well established rel=me microformat for website verification: * http://help.micro.blog/2017/web-site-verification/ micro.blog, at early rollout time to Kickstarter backers, is already one of the most (if not the most) indieweb friendly services out there. Well done Manton!" on 2017-04-29 http://tantek.com/2017/119/t3/microblog-microformats-indieweb-support
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@t Wednesday #100DoPP d97 Setup microblog/@t Great #microformats & #indieweb support! rel=me h-feed Micropub ... http://tantek.com/2017/119/t3 (twitter.com/_/status/858365229398405120)
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tantek hah - thanks Loqi
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Loqi tantek: [kevinmarks] left you a message 3 hours, 16 minutes ago: should we mark this as deprecated? http://microformats.org/wiki/html5-profile
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tantek maybe?
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[manton] Thanks for the post, Tantek!
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tantek manton++ thank YOU for all your awesome work!
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Loqi manton has 13 karma in this channel (14 overall)
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[chrisaldrich] !tell colinwalker, I've been using my name as a username for so long now that it's creating some cognitive dissonance to get used to just using 'c'. You may be better off. ?
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miklb hmm. I wonder if I could expand my little plugin to autolink @user could check the profile and get the URL from that to use as the link.
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schmarty hmm. this week in the indieweb audio edition is up. not sure why loqi hasn't picked it up from twitter or huffduffer yet.
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schmarty https://martymcgui.re/2017/04/29/135306/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • April 22nd - 28th, 2017
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Loqi huffduffer yet.
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schmarty maybe loqi is on break ?
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schmarty thanks, loqi ?
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Loqi you're welcome, schmarty
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Implausible amounts of joy" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-04-26 https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/implausible-amounts-of-joy
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evanwolf saw the indiewebcamp facebook page. somehow the two together feels squicky.
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evanwolf noticed the Bellingham IndieWebCamp starting this Thursday isn't on the Facebook Events page.
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evanwolf https://indieweb.org/2017/Bellingham https://2017.indieweb.org/bellingham
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[colinwalker] chrisaldrich I must admit, I've been colinwalker everywhere for ages so probably for the best ?
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gRegorLove Thanks for the heads up, evanwolf.
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gRegorLove aaronpk: There's a FB event you can add: https://www.facebook.com/events/283727805371801/
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KartikPrabhu evanwolf: nothing squciky about have FB page for indiewebcamp though
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aaronpk oh, i guess i can share that to the facebook page?
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aaronpk ah there's an "add to page" button
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aaronpk done
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gRegorLove Thanks
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schmarty ooh, can i get future HWC baltimore events added to the IWC FB page?
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schmarty (e.g. https://www.facebook.com/events/630302647165359/ for May 10th?)
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aaronpk done!
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schmarty thanks!!
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evanwolf thanks!!!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "If I were to start a Homebrew Website Club for Middlesbrough or Newcastle, would anyone join me? #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-29 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/if-i-were-to-start-a-homebrew-website-club-for
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gRegorLove Woo, 10 RSVPs for IWC Bellingham now!
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strk a new openid consumer was born : https://issues.qgis.org (redmine)
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Loqi strk: [pfefferle] left you a message 4 days, 11 hours ago: I can't influence the "INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT?" section, it is auto generated by WordPress.org https://github.com/diso/wordpress-openid/issues/49
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KartikPrabhu so FF now shows JSON files as a nice structured explorable tree!
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KartikPrabhu so JSON becomes a readable format for file storage?
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KartikPrabhu what is file storage
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Loqi File Storage is the practice of storing main (primary) site content in flat files in a filesystem https://indieweb.org/file-storage
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aaronpk I still like YAML more because it's easier to manipulate by hand
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KartikPrabhu interesting
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strk ^hand^text editor
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KartikPrabhu strk: not about editing but about storing post data
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KartikPrabhu I can edit JSON in a text editor too
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strk I guess it depends on the indent/newlines etc
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strk YAML forces you to make it readble, doesn't it ?
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KevinMarks No, yaml is s superset of json so you can still make it pretty opaque
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KevinMarks Yaml was used to pwn rubygems
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gRegorLove What's this. On Facebook, "[Name} added you as a trusted contact"
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gRegorLove Hmm "Choose friends to contact if you get locked out. Nominate 3 to 5 friends to help if you get locked out of your account. We recommend this to everyone."
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gRegorLove What is trusted contact?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "trusted contact" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove This is under https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=security&section=sessions&view
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gRegorLove trusted contact is a feature of services like [[Facebook]] to nominate friends to help if you get locked out of your account
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove Wow, you get enter your PGP public key and Facebook will encrypt notification emails to you.
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miklb what?
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miklb I want to meet the person that got that feature snuck in.
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[kevinmarks] I bet I know who built that feature
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miklb Here's a video of your friends posts from your birthday, and hey, also you can add your PGP key.
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[kevinmarks] My guess is Alec Muffett (@AlecMuffett): https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett?s=09
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KartikPrabhu why is that "s=09" in that twitter url ^?
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gRegorLove Twitter, season 9