#indieweb 2017-05-01

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skippy i like the notion of 100 days of positive news. I could get into that.
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GWG I'm curious to see pfefferle's response to this: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/pull/85
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Loqi [dshanske] #85 Mf2 Improvements
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miklb I need to figure out how to make my quote tweet POSSEs look good on micro.blog
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[jeremycherfas] Are there any formatting options on micro.blog? Currently it doesn't even convert markdown links.
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[colinwalker] jeremycherfas It seems inconsistent, Markdown with usually work in a new post but seems to have some issues in replies. Where are you having the issues?
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[colinwalker] As if by magic, Manton just posted that replies now support Markdown ?
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[manton] Yeah, I just rolled out a few improvements related to that... Markdown in replies, and better auto-linking URLs and escaping HTML tags in posts from the web. (Still allows full HTML from Micropub and XML-RPC, though I'm evaluating that too.)
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[kevinmarks] This is interesting https://medium.com/@sarahmei/why-i-tweetstorm-instead-of-blog-dd77621596d9
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[colinwalker] There are a number of people who tweetstorm very effectively, often running to 100+ tweets in a thread (chain?) and it can work very well under certain circumstances. As Sarah says, the ability to react on the fly and morph the 'conversation' is its big plus.
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[jeremycherfas] colinwalker I wasn’t having problems with links myself, but seeing problems in one from Chris Aldrich.
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[colinwalker] @GWG I've put your fork on my site so just need to wait for some mentions to test.
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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amz3` io
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[cleverdevil] Morning, IndieWeb ?
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tantek last call for HWC announcements for this week!
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tantek just London & SF it looks like
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snarfed hey voxpelli any chance you'd consider publishing the list of domains signed up for https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ ? (or even just the subset that has received at least one webmention?)
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on Today is My Third Indieweb Anniversary by Jeffrey M. Stewart" by Jeffrey M. Stewart on 2017-05-01 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/25/today-is-my-third-indieweb-anniversary/#comment-34582
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voxpelli snarfed: I'm hesitant to do that – I think people should be able to experiment with the service without having to broadcast that fact
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tantek voxpelli: what about the top 10 domains that receive webmentions then as a compromise?
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tantek if they're receiving a lot of webmentions, they're way past experimenting
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tantek and then just provide a count of "and NNN more domains."
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snarfed voxpelli: definitely understood! you could maybe just post it somewhere quietly, e.g. a github gist, without advertising it at all
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voxpelli I'll think about it – but generally the expectation when signing up to such a service isn't that they will start broadcasting that you're using them
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snarfed i asked aaronpk the same thing for webmention.io recently and he gave me the list as a gist; he was comfortable with it because the site owners already say it themselves publicly, more or less, by including the endpoint in their html
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snarfed as context i'm asking because it'd be very useful for a project i'm working on. so far i've used similar lists from bridgy, webmention.io, and https://indieweb.org/IRC_People
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tantek snarfed, to be fair, there's a bit of a difference in discoverability there and expectation of "passive" privacy perhaps
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tantek as opposed to having a spotlight shined on your personal domain
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voxpelli (I even don't know if any of the sites registered to my service actually advertise my endpoint publicly :P)
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snarfed tantek: definitely! spectrum of publics. hence my point of quietly somewhere without advertising it
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snarfed voxpelli: sure they do, in their HTML!
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snarfed just not loudly, which is tantek's point
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voxpelli snarfed: they can hide it behind some proxy if they like
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snarfed voxpelli: sure, but that's a stretch. i expect very few do that, if any
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snarfed anyway. consider it?
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voxpelli Would be fairly neat if quite a few had a proxy, passing everything on to me while they are building their own thing
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voxpelli I will think about it
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snarfed thanks! (and i mentioned aaronpk's decision for webmention.io since it's the exact same ethics/policy question, and he decided it was ok for him and webmention.io at least)
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aaronpk yeah it's a tough call
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aaronpk i should get better about giving people an option to explicitly request they be unlisted from these services
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Loqi +1
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snarfed and to be clear, my project won't advertise or call out any of the sites either, except for a few as examples that i'll get permission for individually
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[cleverdevil] Yay! My change to Known to enable my "On this Day" plugin has been merged ?
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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aaronpk nice!
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aaronpk and my OAuth fix was merged!
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schmarty it's a May Day miracle!
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[cleverdevil] It looks like the fix for IndieAuth didn't actually allow Micro.blog's iOS app to connect.
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aaronpk oh no really?
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miklb I felt the same way when I saw hubot PRs being merged last night :-)
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[cleverdevil] It doesn't *crash* anymore, but it doesn't actually connect.
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[cleverdevil] Just says "Micropub error."
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aaronpk progress?
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[cleverdevil] Yup ?
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skippy I used webmention.rocks to test my setup delegating to webmention.io; and now there's a permament "test" webmention in there. do folks filter out webmention.rocks when publishing webmentions on their sites?
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aaronpk heh
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aaronpk i leave them
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aaronpk i usually only send them to specific test posts on my site tho
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gRegorLove I carefully crafted mine and left them: https://gregorlove.com/2016/04/webmention-rocks-gneiss/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Webmention rocks? Gneiss!
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skippy aaronpk: is there a smooth way to fetch from webmention.io just a list of URLs that have webmentions for a domain, rather than all webmentions ever sent to that domain?
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aaronpk hm there isn't an API for that right now but that sounds like something I coudl add
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skippy or "new webmentions since date YYYYMMDD" perhaps?
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aaronpk that would also be easy
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skippy seems extraneous to fetch all webmentions ever.
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skippy want an issue on the repo?
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aaronpk yes plz
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skippy :thumbsup:
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[eddie] Actually I’ve been thinking about how I handle my webmention.io integration and would LOVE new webmentions since date
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miklb thinking about it, I wonder if that would have cut down on build times for my jekyll site. I often thought going through 12 years of posts checking for webmentions slowed things down.
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skippy issue created. thanks.
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aaronpk ?
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skippy are there any recommended webmention senders for use in static sites?
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skippy never mind. just found the list on the wiki.
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GWG I got Semantic Linkbacks fixed up a bit, but I still need to improve authorship
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GWG The new code failed voxpelli's tests
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Auditoryprolifer Hello peoples
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KartikPrabhu hello Auditoryprolifer
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Auditoryprolifer What's going on?
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KartikPrabhu moving notes to file storage
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Auditoryprolifer Nice!
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KartikPrabhu Auditoryprolifer: what brings you to indieweb? what is your URL
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Auditoryprolifer I just got my Raspberry Pi and respective case in the mail for creation of my home server. I just found out about this indieweb piece through the Mastodon Social.
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Auditoryprolifer Considering using UBOS for the OS
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M-mxuribe Auditoryprolifer: When u state "home server"...are u referring to that in the general sense, or specific to a software/tech stack, such as matrix or mastodon? (I have my own raspberry pi, so always looking for new projects.)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The duality of microblogging" by Colin Walker on 2017-05-01 https://medium.com/@colinwalker/the-duality-of-microblogging-ebd68b43dcb9?source=rss------social_networking-5
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Auditoryprolifer XD I'm only talking about personal home servers, for all my data
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Auditoryprolifer And using it for my main personal online identity
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Auditoryprolifer I might set up a Mastodon instance eventually, but for now I'm happy at .art
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M-mxuribe Auditoryprolifer: Ah, ok, cool. Yeah, years ago, my home internet was not reliable, so got used to hosting my stuff "in the cloud", instead of relying on home server. Reliability is way better now, but habits are hard to change. Maybe i'll take another look. Thx again!
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Auditoryprolifer No problem! I was sucked into the cloud too, but it's time to change for me.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The duality of microblogging" by Colin Walker on 2017-05-01 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ColinWalker/~3/iI_dzaNxRjs/
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gRegorLove 11 registrations for IWC Bellingham!
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schmarty ? congrats gRegorLove !
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gRegorLove Need to put some notes together from /2016/state-of-indieweb for the intro
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Auditoryprolifer gRegorLove I would join if I had cash to fly
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gRegorLove Where do you hail from, Auditoryprolifer?
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gRegorLove We have other IndieWebCamps in planning: https://indieweb.org/Planning and bi-weekly Homebrew Website Clubs in several locales: https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club
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Auditoryprolifer gRegorLove I'm in Chicago USA
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gRegorLove Oh cool. I moved here from there.
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gRegorLove <3 Chicago
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Auditoryprolifer gRegorLove: It's amazing, has its drawbacks, but it's my hometown
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @ChrisAldrich" by Scott Kingery on 2017-05-01 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-chrisaldrich/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @RudigerMeyer" by Scott Kingery on 2017-05-01 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-rudigermeyer/
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[tamaracks] Can anybody help me out with OwnYourSwarm. I tried to set it up, but it’s missing a token and I can’t figure out how to fix it.
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk ^
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[tamaracks] I’m guessing he’s not around at the moment?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @RudigerMeyer" by Scott Kingery on 2017-05-01 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-rudigermeyer-2/
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