#indieweb 2017-05-03

2017-05-03 UTC
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Finally checking out the awesomeness that is micro.blog! Can’t wait to see how it dovetails and extends the #indieweb. Syndicated copies to:" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-28 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/27/first-post-to-micro-blog/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I’m excited to watch the beginning of the roll out of micro.blog later today and what it portends for the future of the internet and the indieweb. Syndicated copies to:" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-24 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/24/excited-to-watch-the-beginning-of-the-roll-out-of-micro-blog/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Bye-bye, Google+ — but what next? by John Carlos Baez (Google+) Google+ is sliding downhill. A couple years ago my posts would garner comments from lots of smart people, leading to long and deep discussions. These days only a few stalwarts remain — a skeleton crew. I've copied most of my posts here to my … Continue reading "A reply to John Carlos Baez on “Bye-bye, Google+ — but what next?”"" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-19 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/19/a-reply-to-john-carlos-baez-on-bye-bye-google-but-what-next/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "It's more than just the words by Rachel Andrew (rachelandrew.co.uk) Personal sites, our blogs, these were once our playgrounds. My own site was the first place I added rollover images, CSS for fonts, tried out a “table free” design. I wrote about the web, surrounded by my own experiments with the web. We all did, … Continue reading "Reply to Rachel Andrew’s “It’s more than just the words”"" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-18 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/18/reply-to-rachel-andrews-its-more-than-just-the-words/
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gRegorLove Good evening, indieweb
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miklb howdy gRegorLove
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tantek hey gRegorLove any chance of remote participation in IWC Bellingham?
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gRegorLove Hope so! May not be much better than laptop mic, though. It's a smaller group, so that might work OK.
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gRegorLove Friday we're in a classroom, so might have some better audio options.
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tantek what do people think of the responses in https://twitter.com/swissmiss/status/859397269447204864 - anything there worth adding to /why ?
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@swissmiss Searching for articles on why people should care about self-hosting their content and not post on platforms like Facebook or Medium. Help? (twitter.com/_/status/859397269447204864)
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skippy tantek: what do YOU think of the responses?
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tantek skippy - waiting to hear others's opinions first. I've contributed a bunch to indieweb.org/why already so I'm hoping to hear and get additional perspectives added there.
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[chrisaldrich] I think I'm personally more curious what she comes up with based on her reading...
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Spent all of two minutes creating the custom domain http://micro.boffosocko.com and mapping it over to my micro.blog account using the CNAME set up as documented" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-03 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/spent-all-of-two-minutes-creating-the-custom-domain-and
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gRegorLove I wrote out some notes for the IWC Bellingham introduction. I'm anticipating most attendees will be pretty new to indieweb. Feedback welcomed. https://gregorlove.com/2017/05/some-notes-for-the-indiewebcamp/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Some notes for the IndieWebCamp Bellingham opening session, borrowing heavily from Tantek’s opening keynote at the 2016 IndieWeb Summit. This is very much in-progress. ---- Welcome to the first IndieWebCamp Bellingham, and on Star Wars Day no ...
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GWG I almost forgot about that
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GWG I've been so distracted
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gRegorLove Travel and work can do that to you. :)
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gRegorLove I haven't forgotten, but this definitely came up faster than expected.
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gRegorLove I'm feeling pretty good about all the logistics of it so far, though.
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GWG gRegorLove: I did pretty well with a boundary microphone and a laptop
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GWG If you can get one in time, you can likely broadcast
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[colinwalker] Morning all.
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GWG [colinwalker]: Sorry, left your timezone
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[colinwalker] Evening then ?
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GWG [colinwalker]: Hope all is well.
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[colinwalker] Good thanks, you?
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GWG Busy busy busy. Hoping to resume the Indieweb work I was doing. Fixed one thing, broke another
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[colinwalker] Ain't that always the way.
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GWG I did fix the reported problem with classification though
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[colinwalker] That's good to hear, I'll have to test it out once you've fixed the other issue. I did briefly stick your fork on my site but then saw your comment about breaking validation so rolled back.
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GWG I intend to test as many scenarios as possible.
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GWG But hopefully soon it will be stable.
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GWG And then I can build on the improvements.
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[colinwalker] Let me know and I'll test.
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GWG I hope to soon, just busy with other things.
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GWG On that note, heading off to rest
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[colinwalker] Night
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[chrisaldrich] colinwalker have you tried logging into the wiki yet to add yourself?
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[chrisaldrich] If not, this may be a bit helpful: http://indieweb.org/wikify#Wikify_yourself
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Loqi [superfeedr] "It looks like you may be using the Post Kinds plugin, so you should be able to reply to other sites using that and putting" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-03 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/it-looks-like-you-may-be-using-the-post-kinds
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[colinwalker] chrisaldrich Already done: https://indieweb.org/User:Colinwalker.blog
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[colinwalker] Need to flesh it out a bit though
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[chrisaldrich] colinwalker++
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Loqi colinwalker has 1 karma
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pfefferle !tell GWG have you seen https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/issues/140
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [pfefferle] #140 `admin_register_settings` is not working
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GWG pfefferle, yes. I am going to have a look when I can. A bit overwhelmed at work because I was away last week
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Loqi GWG: pfefferle left you a message 2 minutes ago: have you seen https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/issues/140
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pfefferle GWG OK
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pfefferle GWG I wanted to release the latest version and got these errors, that's why I wanted to ping you...
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The billionaire’s typewriter | Butterick’s Practical Typography" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-05-03 http://practicaltypography.com/billionaires-typewriter.html
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gRegorLove Huh, well this is weird. Twitter.com isn't showing me an @-reply I got from someone 11 hours ago, but since I got a webmention I noticed and found the tweet permalink.
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gRegorLove They don't have an avatar, so maybe Twitter is filtering?
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tantek gRegorLove: yes they have an option now to not show egg replies
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gRegorLove Hmm, it's not selected. I do have "Quality Filter" on though
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tantek that might do it
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gRegorLove Glad I caught it. It's someone wanting to contact me about IWC
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tantek does anyone post publicly and yet block robots (e.g. via robots.txt or meta robots?)
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tantek I used to, in my early years of my blog (early 2000s)
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tantek just wondering if anyone does it now
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gRegorLove !tell aaronpk Can I get the list of private registrations?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek this came up in W3C # social because: https://toot.cat/@davidsgallant/464731
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gRegorLove tantek: Would appreciate your thoughts, since I borrowed heavily from your words :) https://gregorlove.com/2017/05/some-notes-for-the-indiewebcamp/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] Some notes for the IndieWebCamp Bellingham opening session, borrowing heavily from Tantek’s opening keynote at the 2016 IndieWeb Summit. This is very much in-progress. ---- Welcome to the first IndieWebCamp Bellingham, and on Star Wars Day no ...
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gRegorLove Expecting most will be pretty new to indieweb, so just wanted to hit some of the basics before demos.
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tantek maythefourth++
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Loqi maythefourth has 1 karma
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tantek totally forgot to plan something for tomorrow!
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schmarty you have all day!
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tantek needs to mark that as an annual event
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tantek or at least an annual Gregorian calendar event
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tantek gRegorLove++ looks great! drop the "This is very much in-progress." and just iterate/edit if/when you need to.
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Loqi gregorlove has 89 karma in this channel (123 overall)
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tantek !tell cweiske since your indieweb chat search indexes WebSub notified feeds, have you considered indexing (perhaps separate index?) WebSub notified indieweb sites?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek sandro++ nice screenshot of LiveJournal's options related to search: https://mastodon.social/users/sandhawke/updates/2236857
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Loqi sandro has 3 karma in this channel (42 overall)
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Loqi [Sandro Hawke] @cwebber @ghost @davidsgallant @polymerwitch For precedent, I note that livejournal has some user settings like this. (and has for about 15 years, if memory serves. It appears I last updated my profile 9 years ago.) https://mastodon.social/media/... https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/000/392/302/original/132d70700e15dd83.png
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gRegorLove Tangentially, IA is looking to ignore robots.txt more broadly: http://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-search-engines-dont-work-well-for-web-archives/
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tantek which is a bit different
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calumryan HWC London is go but last minute venue change tonight due to Wifi problems so we’re now at Caffe Nero across the road
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[kevinmarks] Ah crap, again?
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[kevinmarks] See also https://mastodon.social/web/statuses/4949617
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[kevinmarks] https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/4949617
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Loqi [Eugen] I can't stop google from indexing public pages but there's a difference between "possible" and "convenient". There's already hashtags for when you *want* to be discovered via some keyword.
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[kevinmarks] See thread
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tantek kevinmarks, anything new in that thread you think worth capturing? I didn't see anything novel
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[kevinmarks] More the return of tag search.
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[kevinmarks] I do think mastodon might be a testing ground for vouch. The whole known network for each instance is another candidate whitelist
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KartikPrabhu I am confused what does all of that have to do with "full text search" ?
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tantek KartikPrabhu: not much.
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KartikPrabhu ok, so the conversation started with that and went side-ways it seems
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tantek yes
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Self-hosted Known 0.8.5 has left the building - with better indieweb, micropub and AMP support." by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/self-hosted-known-085-has-left-the-building---with-better
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-12-08 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/why-we-built-known
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Loqi [superfeedr] "A short note about web standards from your friends at Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/a-short-note-about-web-standards-from-your-friends-at
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tantek Y U replay so old posts superfeedr?
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schmarty Aw man, I got excited about a new Known release being packaged.
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tantek yeah
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tantek !tell adactio,calumryan any photos from the Brighton or London HWC 2017-05-03? https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-03-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek what is phishing
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "phishing" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what is a phish
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "phish" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek hmm
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tantek in case you happen to use Google Docs AND email: https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/859840026082988038
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@zeynep Phishing (or malware) Google Doc links that appear to come from people you may know are going around. DELETE THE EMAIL. DON'T CLICK. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-7D1sAWsAEQsLm.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/859840026082988038)
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gRegorLove Check https://myaccount.google.com/permissions for any unknown apps that have access
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gRegorLove Then set a reminder to check it again in a year. Or sooner, depending on your level of concern. :)
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tantek what is freemyoauth
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Loqi Free My OAuth is a page designed to help you find who has access to your accounts on various silos https://indieweb.org/FreeMyOAuth
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tantek gRegorLove: ^^^
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miklb saw that, a lot of journalists were getting it
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gRegorLove That's a nice-looking page
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tantek In other news, FB added "reactions" support to comments
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tantek what is a reaction
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/reaction
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tantek what is a response
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/response
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[cleverdevil] https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/859872668144857088
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@SwiftOnSecurity "Google HR has sent you a job offer in Google Docs." Not today, Satan. (twitter.com/_/status/859872668144857088)
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tantek lol
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[cleverdevil] So, just found out the hotel I booked for IndieWeb Summit charged me $8,112.57 for my three night stay, rather than $812.57.
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[cleverdevil] Self-driving cars are still a ways off, I'm guessing.
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[cleverdevil] ?
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KartikPrabhu woah!
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schmarty y-i-i-i-i-i-ieks
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[eddie] ?
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[cleverdevil] I called them, and pressed the button to reach the billing department and got a message that said "We're sorry, this extension's mailbox is full."
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[cleverdevil] Thankfully, a nice woman at the front desk picked up the phone and said she'd get it handled.
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[cleverdevil] Pretty amusing.
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tantek "amusing" like Brazil-the-movie amusing
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schmarty thanks for the reminder that i still need an IWS hotel
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tantek same
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schmarty any word on a venue yet? i recall aaronpk saying he expected to hear back a couple of days ago.
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tantek indeed I too was waiting to hear before deciding on final hotel location
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[cleverdevil] I just booked downtown PDX, figuring that the light rail is good enough to get me anywhere I need to go.
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gRegorLove [cleverdevil]: Here's hoping the credit card company doesn't correct the reward points :D
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[cleverdevil] Heh, it was my corporate card.
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[cleverdevil] Hence my amusement.
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[cleverdevil] https://getstream.io/blog/examining-decentralized-social-networks/
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Loqi [Written by: Ian Douglas] Examining Decentralized Social Networks
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schmarty [cleverdevil]: interesting that the author of that piece goes out of their way to explain the complications of @mentions across mastodon instances... and makes the exact mistake they are describing.
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[cleverdevil] Yuuuup, I noticed the same.
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tantek what is a tweetstorm
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Loqi tweetstorm is a series of tweets, each replying to the previous, often each numbered so the sequence is clear, as a method of expressing a longer series of related thoughts as a single thread on Twitter https://indieweb.org/tweetstorm
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tantek tweetstorm fail: https://twitter.com/googledocs/status/859878989250215937?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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@googledocs (1 of 3) Official Google Statement on Phishing Email: We have taken action to protect users against an email impersonating Google Docs... (twitter.com/_/status/859878989250215937)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@Johannes_Ernst (cc #iiw), come to 17:30 #IndieWeb Homebrew Website Club @MozSF, dinner after! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-03-homebrew-website-club" on 2017-05-03 http://tantek.com/2017/123/t4/indieweb-homebrew-website-club
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tantek FYI WordPress folks: https://twitter.com/tmmx/status/859868902167334914
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@tmmx Another #WordPress RCE vulnerability: https://exploitbox.io/vuln/WordPress-Exploit-4-6-RCE-CODE-EXEC-CVE-2016-10033.html and another reason I'm happy that I moved my blog to #Hugo. #PHP (twitter.com/_/status/859868902167334914)
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KartikPrabhu what is RCE?
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Loqi RCE is an abbreviation for "remote code execution", a kind of security vulnerability https://indieweb.org/RCE
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tantek wow: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=topic/gmail/be-_mLk_aOk#!topic/gmail/be-_mLk_aOk
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tantek also hashbang :(
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tantek hashbang--
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Loqi hashbang has -1 karma
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @kevinmarks" by Scott Kingery on 2017-05-03 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-kevinmarks/
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