#indieweb 2017-05-03

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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[pfefferle] #140 `admin_register_settings` is not working
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GWG
pfefferle, yes. I am going to have a look when I can. A bit overwhelmed at work because I was away last week
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Loqi
GWG: pfefferle left you a message 2 minutes ago: have you seen https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/issues/140
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pfefferle
GWG I wanted to release the latest version and got these errors, that's why I wanted to ping you...
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "The billionaire’s typewriter | Butterick’s Practical Typography" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-05-03 http://practicaltypography.com/billionaires-typewriter.html
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gRegorLove
Huh, well this is weird. Twitter.com isn't showing me an @-reply I got from someone 11 hours ago, but since I got a webmention I noticed and found the tweet permalink.
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gRegorLove
They don't have an avatar, so maybe Twitter is filtering?
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tantek
gRegorLove: yes they have an option now to not show egg replies
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gRegorLove
Hmm, it's not selected. I do have "Quality Filter" on though
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tantek
that might do it
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gRegorLove
Glad I caught it. It's someone wanting to contact me about IWC
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tantek
does anyone post publicly and yet block robots (e.g. via robots.txt or meta robots?)
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tantek
I used to, in my early years of my blog (early 2000s)
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tantek
just wondering if anyone does it now
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gRegorLove
!tell aaronpk Can I get the list of private registrations?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
this came up in W3C # social because: https://toot.cat/@davidsgallant/464731
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gRegorLove
tantek: Would appreciate your thoughts, since I borrowed heavily from your words :) https://gregorlove.com/2017/05/some-notes-for-the-indiewebcamp/
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Loqi
[gRegor Morrill] Some notes for the IndieWebCamp Bellingham opening session, borrowing heavily from Tantek’s opening keynote at the 2016 IndieWeb Summit. This is very much in-progress. ---- Welcome to the first IndieWebCamp Bellingham, and on Star Wars Day no ...
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gRegorLove
Expecting most will be pretty new to indieweb, so just wanted to hit some of the basics before demos.
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tantek
maythefourth++
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Loqi
maythefourth has 1 karma
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tantek
totally forgot to plan something for tomorrow!
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schmarty
you have all day!
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tantek
needs to mark that as an annual event
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tantek
or at least an annual Gregorian calendar event
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tantek
gRegorLove++ looks great! drop the "This is very much in-progress." and just iterate/edit if/when you need to.
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Loqi
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tantek
!tell cweiske since your indieweb chat search indexes WebSub notified feeds, have you considered indexing (perhaps separate index?) WebSub notified indieweb sites?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
sandro++ nice screenshot of LiveJournal's options related to search: https://mastodon.social/users/sandhawke/updates/2236857
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Loqi
sandro has 3 karma in this channel (42 overall)
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Loqi
[Sandro Hawke] @cwebber @ghost @davidsgallant @polymerwitch For precedent, I note that livejournal has some user settings like this. (and has for about 15 years, if memory serves. It appears I last updated my profile 9 years ago.) https://mastodon.social/media/... https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/000/392/302/original/132d70700e15dd83.png
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tantek
which is a bit different
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calumryan
HWC London is go but last minute venue change tonight due to Wifi problems so we’re now at Caffe Nero across the road
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[kevinmarks]
Ah crap, again?
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Loqi
[Eugen] I can't stop google from indexing public pages but there's a difference between "possible" and "convenient". There's already hashtags for when you *want* to be discovered via some keyword.
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[kevinmarks]
See thread
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tantek
kevinmarks, anything new in that thread you think worth capturing? I didn't see anything novel
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[kevinmarks]
More the return of tag search.
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[kevinmarks]
I do think mastodon might be a testing ground for vouch. The whole known network for each instance is another candidate whitelist
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KartikPrabhu
I am confused what does all of that have to do with "full text search" ?
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: not much.
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KartikPrabhu
ok, so the conversation started with that and went side-ways it seems
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Self-hosted Known 0.8.5 has left the building - with better indieweb, micropub and AMP support." by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/self-hosted-known-085-has-left-the-building---with-better
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-12-08 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/why-we-built-known
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "A short note about web standards from your friends at Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/a-short-note-about-web-standards-from-your-friends-at
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tantek
Y U replay so old posts superfeedr?
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schmarty
Aw man, I got excited about a new Known release being packaged.
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tantek
!tell adactio,calumryan any photos from the Brighton or London HWC 2017-05-03? https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-03-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
what is phishing
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "phishing" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10hY
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tantek
what is a phish
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "phish" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10hZ
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tantek
in case you happen to use Google Docs AND email: https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/859840026082988038
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@zeynep
Phishing (or malware) Google Doc links that appear to come from people you may know are going around. DELETE THE EMAIL. DON'T CLICK. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-7D1sAWsAEQsLm.jpg
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gRegorLove
Check https://myaccount.google.com/permissions for any unknown apps that have access
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gRegorLove
Then set a reminder to check it again in a year. Or sooner, depending on your level of concern. :)
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tantek
what is freemyoauth
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Loqi
Free My OAuth is a page designed to help you find who has access to your accounts on various silos https://indieweb.org/FreeMyOAuth
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tantek
gRegorLove: ^^^
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miklb
saw that, a lot of journalists were getting it
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gRegorLove
That's a nice-looking page
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tantek
In other news, FB added "reactions" support to comments
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tantek
what is a reaction
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tantek
what is a response
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@SwiftOnSecurity
"Google HR has sent you a job offer in Google Docs." Not today, Satan.
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[cleverdevil]
So, just found out the hotel I booked for IndieWeb Summit charged me $8,112.57 for my three night stay, rather than $812.57.
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[cleverdevil]
Self-driving cars are still a ways off, I'm guessing.
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schmarty
y-i-i-i-i-i-ieks
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[cleverdevil]
I called them, and pressed the button to reach the billing department and got a message that said "We're sorry, this extension's mailbox is full."
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[cleverdevil]
Thankfully, a nice woman at the front desk picked up the phone and said she'd get it handled.
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[cleverdevil]
Pretty amusing.
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tantek
"amusing" like Brazil-the-movie amusing
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schmarty
thanks for the reminder that i still need an IWS hotel
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schmarty
any word on a venue yet? i recall aaronpk saying he expected to hear back a couple of days ago.
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tantek
indeed I too was waiting to hear before deciding on final hotel location
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[cleverdevil]
I just booked downtown PDX, figuring that the light rail is good enough to get me anywhere I need to go.
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gRegorLove
[cleverdevil]: Here's hoping the credit card company doesn't correct the reward points :D
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[cleverdevil]
Heh, it was my corporate card.
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[cleverdevil]
Hence my amusement.
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Loqi
[Written by: Ian Douglas] Examining Decentralized Social Networks
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schmarty
[cleverdevil]: interesting that the author of that piece goes out of their way to explain the complications of @mentions across mastodon instances... and makes the exact mistake they are describing.
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[cleverdevil]
Yuuuup, I noticed the same.
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tantek
what is a tweetstorm
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Loqi
tweetstorm is a series of tweets, each replying to the previous, often each numbered so the sequence is clear, as a method of expressing a longer series of related thoughts as a single thread on Twitter https://indieweb.org/tweetstorm
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@googledocs
(1 of 3) Official Google Statement on Phishing Email: We have taken action to protect users against an email impersonating Google Docs...
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "@Johannes_Ernst (cc #iiw), come to 17:30 #IndieWeb Homebrew Website Club @MozSF, dinner after! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-03-homebrew-website-club" on 2017-05-03 http://tantek.com/2017/123/t4/indieweb-homebrew-website-club
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@tmmx
Another #WordPress RCE vulnerability: https://exploitbox.io/vuln/WordPress-Exploit-4-6-RCE-CODE-EXEC-CVE-2016-10033.html and another reason I'm happy that I moved my blog to #Hugo. #PHP
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KartikPrabhu
what is RCE?
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Loqi
RCE is an abbreviation for "remote code execution", a kind of security vulnerability https://indieweb.org/RCE
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tantek
also hashbang :(
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tantek
hashbang--
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Loqi
hashbang has -1 karma
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @kevinmarks" by Scott Kingery on 2017-05-03 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-kevinmarks/
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miklb
that WP security issue was fixed in 4.7.1, current is 4.7.4 and was I'm pretty sure any php project using phpsendmail would have been vulnerable.
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[kevinmarks]
the ?_escaped_fragment_=topic/gmail/be-_mLk_aOk is how google handles hashbangs serverside
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[kevinmarks]
I assume you got that by having noscript on
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[kevinmarks]
so you get an html version, whereas https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/be-_mLk_aOk is the js;dr one
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tantek
good evening #indieweb!
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tantek
HWC SF here with two of us so far, me and EJ
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[kevinmarks]
Wave to EJ
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GWG
Hello, SF
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KartikPrabhu
[kevinmarks]: no one uses Wave anymore! ;)
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[kevinmarks]
I blame GWT
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tantek
KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi
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KartikPrabhu
i figured it was dump on Google day
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tantek
alright it's too nice outdoors, so if anyone asks where's HWC SF, tell them it's outside and to speak-up here in the channel
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Centralized publishing" by Srikanth Perinkulam on 2017-05-04 https://srikanthperinkulam.com/2017/05/03/centralized-publishing/
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gRegorLove
Good evening, indieweb
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sknebel
good morning!
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wagle
any wordpress fans have multisite working for completely different domains?
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wagle
altrnatively, any non-finicky blog servers out there now that do this?
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wagle
someone here was really hoping i'd stick with wordpress, but my resolve is weakening
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miklb
wagle I have a fair amount of experience with multisite if I can be of any assistance
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wagle
miklb: can i do foo.io and baz.org?
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miklb
wagle you should. I haven't had to do that in a long time, but when I did, I used the domain mapping plugin
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wagle
i falling asleep, will be back later 8//
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miklb
but seems that plugin was deprecated in 4.4
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miklb
wagle I'll be around
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tantek_
KartikPrabhu yes, readability. Space not T. Time with colon(s). TZ offset without.
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ben_thatmustbeme
Huh? Missed the context about the date /tz comment there
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Loqi
[KartikPrabhu] anyone have good reasons for using some particular format for date times? particularly 1) use "T" or "<space>" to separate date from time and 2) use "+HH:MM" or "+HHMM" for timezone?
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KartikPrabhu
tantek_: why time with colon(s) and TZ offset without?
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KartikPrabhu
i mean they are both hours and minutes
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ben_thatmustbeme
to make it clear its TZinfo and not an actual time
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ben_thatmustbeme
at least that was the logic i saw on the wiki
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ben_thatmustbeme
This is something I have been looking to get figured out for the mf test suite as its really inconsistant
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KartikPrabhu
it is an actual time though
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KartikPrabhu
I mean no one says 3.45+0,45
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KartikPrabhu
mixing the English and French for decimal points
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KartikPrabhu
iso format uses T and colon in timezone
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ben_thatmustbeme
markup may dictate you have to split things up, so just "+10:30" can be logically confused with 10:30 am unless a person knows about TZ encodings
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ben_thatmustbeme
not that +1030 is great either really
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ben_thatmustbeme
plays devils advocate as I'm not totally convinced one way or the other
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ben_thatmustbeme
the not having T as an option is definitely important as you can't always encode things in a single spot
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ben_thatmustbeme
s/spot/string/
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KartikPrabhu
I am not convinced either, I sort of want some reason to pick one :P
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ben_thatmustbeme
because of layout. ISO standard didn't have to worry about things like that
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KartikPrabhu
it all seems random
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KartikPrabhu
this is to go in the datetime property so not worried about "separating"
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ben_thatmustbeme
i mean, I think its fine doing either in that case, its going to be parsable by software either way, but space instead of T is more humanly readable. Not sure without the colon is though
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ben_thatmustbeme
in any case, i need sleep
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KartikPrabhu
decides to stick with iso for now
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