#indieweb 2017-05-09

2017-05-09 UTC
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tantek [thunder]: let me know if you're able to edit the HTML of your home page to add rel=me links in Webflow, or if not, if you're able to add more markup to the <head> tag at least.
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@miklb @chrisjdavis that is very close to an indie webmention. http://indieweb.org/webmentions Should pop into #habari & discuss w/@smerrill & I someday. (twitter.com/_/status/861735278641336321)
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[thunder] tantek I can add arbitrary attributes to tags, so yes
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dougbeal|mb1 GWG: I have had good luck with AirBnB in Portland
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GWG I'm not comfortable being in stranger's homes.
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dougbeal|mb1 When will indieweb rsvp's open up for the summit?
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gRegorLove dougbeal|mb1: They're open now. https://2017.indieweb.org
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit
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dougbeal|mb1 How do I see if the RSVP worked?
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dougbeal|mb1 I used the RSVP wordpress javascript tool
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dougbeal|mb1 Ah, there it is right below the register box
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dougbeal|mb1 Did that appear because of the Tito link, or did webmentions send a ping?
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gRegorLove You did an indie RSVP, so that's showing up thanks to webmentions and parsing the microformats on your RSVP post.
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gRegorLove tito is an additional step so that the number of available tickets decreases
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gRegorLove The ti.to count is a bit off, I think because it's not clear that you're supposed to go through that after the indie RSVP
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gRegorLove 17 registrations!
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dougbeal|mb1 I went through tito first, and it asked for the RSVP url, which was why I was unsure if the webmention went off, or it came from tito.
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wagle one (1) review: "absolute garbage that overwrote my own plugin" do I dare?
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dougbeal|mb1 Does wordpress have a plugin test suite?
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wagle dunno, but somone mrke it as tested in the current wordpress
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wagle dunno, but somone marked it as tested in the current wordpress
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miklb my only advice is to have a local test version of your site and alway be backing up
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wagle yup.. doing snapshots of my droplet
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bignose I'm interested in the ZeroNet approach <URL: https://zeronet.io/>
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bignose probably has a lot of overlap with IndieWeb
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[kevinmarks] What is zeronet?
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Loqi zeronet is a decentralized web serving tool based on Bittorrent and Bitcoin addresses http://zeronet.io/ https://indieweb.org/zeronet
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[kevinmarks] Well, the one I made has vanished from the proxy.
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bignose how do I update Loqi's idea of an entry? (the URL should be HTTPS for ZeroNet's home page.)
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cweiske edit the respective wiki page
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jeremycherfas Good Morning Indieweb
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cweiske good morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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sknebel good morning!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Not exactly sure what Colin Devroe means when he says he's "just going to publish her on my blog". I guess that means he's not" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-05-09 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/not-exactly-sure-what-colin-devroe-means-when-he-says
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I've followed Tim Bray via RSS for what seems like forever. And I'm glad he's committed to keep going. I wonder, though, whether he'll see" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-05-04 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/ive-followed-tim-bray-via-rss-for-what-seems-like
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[kevinmarks] Pronoun << https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/861666628160765952
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@jaythenerdkid hey, cis friends, friendly neighbourhood enby here to tell you a small but useful ally thing you can do: put your pronouns in your bios (twitter.com/_/status/861666628160765952)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/861666628160765952" to the "See Also" section of /pronoun
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Loqi [superfeedr] "9 years later, I'm blogging again" by Sebastian Kippe on 2017-05-09 https://updates.kip.pe/2017/9-years-later-im-blogging-again
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snarfed in which newsblur dives into design decisions i've dealt with in granary for a while: http://blog.newsblur.com/post/160476886217/newsblurs-twitter-support-just-got-a-whole-lot
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jeremycherfas Now if only Samuel would adapt some of his sharing buttons …
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning Indieweb
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jeremycherfas Good morning chrisaldrich
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j4y_funabashi afternoon
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tantek o/ j4y_funabashi
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j4y_funabashi \o tantek
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[andreasnebiker] Soo looking forward to #indieweb camp DUS this weekend! ?
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aaronpk \o/
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 16 hours, 19 minutes ago: event posting flow updated with more details (at least for HWC indie event + FB POSSE copy) https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Beforehand+
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 16 hours, 18 minutes ago: event posting flow updated with more details (at least for HWC indie event + FB POSSE copy) https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Beforehand
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@cdevroe I'll agree with Jeremy that you don't need to syndicate content or even backfeed to be a part of the Indieweb. Particularly when you're" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-09 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/cdevroe-ill-agree-with-jeremy-that-you-dont-need-to
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[chrisaldrich] jeremycherfas I've been thinking maybe we should create an IndieBreadCamp to complement our work here. ?
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[jeremycherfas] chrisaldrich Bake at home eat elsewhere?
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[chrisaldrich] lol!
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[chrisaldrich] jeremycherfas were you going to DUS or Nürnberg? or both?
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[jeremycherfas] Nürnberg only.
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[chrisaldrich] wishes I was in Germany this coming week...
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[chrisaldrich] What is remoteStorage?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "remoteStorage" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel what is unhosted?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Unhosted
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sknebel aaronpk: something that's not 100% clear to me, does micropub.rocks allow to easily update an implementation report later?
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sknebel (got a bunch of low-hanging fruit to fix before I declare "project implement micropub properly" finished, but don't have the time/motivation right now, so would then file about what I have now)
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aaronpk sknebel: yeah the answers in the micropub.rocks report update as you go
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sknebel oh, ok
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aaronpk the actual report is a pull request to github
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aaronpk micropub.rocks just helps you collect the answers
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myfreeweb speaking of micropub.rocks, would be nice if it allowed to set an additional category for all the posts it creates, in order to be able to e.g. hide them from my home feed
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aaronpk heh, you're testing on your main domain?
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sknebel I suspect most people are
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aaronpk hm, i've always tested on my staging site
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sknebel your what? :P
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aaronpk the few times i've had it make a post on my actual site i usually just delete it after
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tantek what is a staging site?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "staging site" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel (I guess I could ngrok or so to expose my local dev-copy)
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tantek heh
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tantek what is staging
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "staging" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk sknebel: yeah that's basically what I do
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sknebel (I personally have patched a special case into my code that ignores micropub.rocks token)
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aaronpk except it's a DIY ngrok
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myfreeweb yeah actually with my current setup it should be easy to add an additional domain for staging…
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aaronpk myfreeweb: oh yeah, since the micropub request is made from a token you issued that includes the client_id, you can filter on that
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aaronpk just make sure you keep an association between the access token and the client_id that requested it, then you can add special filtering rules based on the client_id
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myfreeweb yea i've had client_id in posts for a long time, probably can just filter them out from the feeds. that feels kinda hacky though
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aaronpk i don't think it's hacky at all!
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aaronpk it's one of the benefits of OAuth
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myfreeweb not a fan of special filtering for particular clients
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sknebel ideally I could impose constraints like that on the token, but that requires a custom auth endpoint. which is somewhere later on the list ;)
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sknebel (impose them while creating it)
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aaronpk sknebel: yep, my auth endpoint allows me to select which feeds posts created using that token go into
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/p3k#IndieAuth
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myfreeweb that's better, that's really nice
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myfreeweb added the micropub.rocks filter to my home feed right from the browser :) https://unrelentingtech.s3.amazonaws.com/micro_panel_sweetroll_feed.png
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Thanks to @nxd4n@mastodon.social, this toot was posted automatically from my Known website. Or as the #IndieWeb cool kids like to say: I'm now POSSEing my" by Sebastian Kippe on 2017-04-13 https://updates.kip.pe/2017/thanks-to-nxd4nmastodonsocial-this-toot-was-posted-automatically-from-my
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tantek interesting, POSSEing to Mastodon as a way of "federating" to it
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aaronpk I wish Mastodon could just subscribe to an indieweb site directly
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myfreeweb yeah… and send/receive webmentions :)
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aaronpk I'm hoping Gargron can come to one of the IndieWebCamps in Germany
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[cleverdevil] Hmm... this Instagram news may cause my next project to change... I am guessing it would be possible to POSSE photos into Instagram, now...
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[cleverdevil] Has anyone fiddled with this, yet?
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tantek what news?
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[cleverdevil] https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/8/15562892/instagram-mobile-browser-photo-upload
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aaronpk Wow
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[cleverdevil] Wow, indeed.
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aaronpk im guessing they'll be going to great lengths to prevent automated uploads tho
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aaronpk they have a bad enough spam problem as is
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[cleverdevil] A simple user-agent switch on my Safari enabled the button and it works.
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[cleverdevil] Might be worth fiddling with!
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[cleverdevil] Also been thinking a lot lately about leveraging headless Chrome to enable all sorts of things ?
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tantek ooh where's that Bridgy issue
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sknebel (apropos update, public service announcement: any windows users that haven't installed Windows Defender updates today are asked to immediately do so, sadly defender is todays candidate to prove that virus scanners are steaming garbage piles)
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myfreeweb i always disabled defender for performance reasons, turns out that was good for security too lol
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sknebel overall? interesting question. today? yes.
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aaronpk i don't know anything about windows security at this point, but i do have a windows computer that i use for just one purpose. what do i need to do?
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myfreeweb check windows updates
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myfreeweb but i think someone said defender even pushed its update automatically…
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aaronpk i don't even...know how to do that
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aaronpk ah i found it
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myfreeweb you can also ignore all disks in defender and it won't be vulnerable for sure. also won't waste cpu cycles on checking every file you touch :D
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gRegorLove What's going on with Windows Defender? Link?
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sknebel https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1252&desc=5
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sknebel short version: part of the scanning process is executing JS to analyze it's behaviour. said JS interpreter runs with highest possible privileges, and has a type confusion bug which allows calling arbitrary functions
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sknebel and since its a virus scanner, it runs on e-mails, browser data, ... without user interaction
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sknebel (and sorry for the off topic interruption, but I thought that might be important enough. Back to the regular programming of exciting changes at Instagram ;))
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tantek yeah re: Instagram, can someone document that on /Instagram ?
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GWG Afternoon
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tantek afternoon!
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GWG tantek, all is well?
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tantek no new problems as of today AFAIK
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gRegorLove Hiya GWG
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gRegorLove How goes WordPress indieweb?
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gRegorLove I think I saw dougbeal got indie RSVPs working, maybe having some issue with Instagram photos showing up in his posts though
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Loqi [superfeedr] "YouTube: Tantek Çelik &#8211; The once and future IndieWeb" by Matthias Pfefferle on 2017-03-16 https://ichmagdiesen.link/2017/03/16/youtube-tantek-celik-the-once-and-future-indieweb/
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dougbeal|mb1 gRegorLove: GWG: yep - http://crw.moe/b/W
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Loqi [Douglas Beal] #30
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dougbeal|mb1 They also are not Photo Kinds
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dougbeal|mb1 I was distracted by RSVP'ing and shortlinks yesterday ;)
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aaronpk .moe?
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dougbeal|mb1 crow.moe, since my twitter handle is murderofcrows
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skippy "The marketing of products or services deemed moe"
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j4y_funabashi !tell snarfed Hey, I am getting some 404s and 400 errors from brid-gy. I guess this means the comment/like has been deleted from FB? but just wanted to check.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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j4y_funabashi !tell snarfed https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/facebook/10153584798226153/10154842965816153/10154778136712228
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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j4y_funabashi !tell snarfed https://brid-gy.appspot.com/post/facebook/10153584798226153/1167096036682944
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed !tell j4y_funabashi yup, sometimes deleted, sometimes not public (eg your /post/... example URL), and sometimes the facebook API is just inconsistent (details in https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/512 )
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi snarfed: j4y_funabashi left you a message 55 minutes ago: Hey, I am getting some 404s and 400 errors from brid-gy. I guess this means the comment/like has been deleted from FB? but just wanted to check.
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Loqi snarfed: j4y_funabashi left you a message 55 minutes ago: https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/facebook/10153584798226153/10154842965816153/10154778136712228
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Loqi snarfed: j4y_funabashi left you a message 55 minutes ago: https://brid-gy.appspot.com/post/facebook/10153584798226153/1167096036682944
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Loqi [snarfed] #512 Facebook response handler 404s and 400s
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @schoschie" by Scott Kingery on 2017-05-09 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-schoschie/
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GWG I heard someone mention me?
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dougbeal|mb1 GWG: I would like the photos to show up in my Instragram posts via Ownyourgram to Wordpress https://dougbeal.com/2017/05/02/30/
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Loqi [Douglas Beal] #30
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dougbeal|mb1 Oh, and be set to Kind Photo
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GWG I need to look at what ownyourgram returns, as I am not a user, but doable
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aaronpk ownyourgram just sends photo posts, just like what quill or the micro.blog iOS app send
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GWG aaronpk, I have to look at my type discovery code.
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GWG It should pick up on it
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dougbeal|mb1 GWG: What is the best way to see what happened? Poke around in the DB?
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tantek GWG, new problem today. I got "Your account has been locked." on my main twitter account @t
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tantek shows no indication of being locked when viewed from another account
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tantek just: "What happened? / We locked your account because we determined that it violated the Twitter Rules."
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tantek and: "What you can do: / To unlock your account, you must do the following: / Verify your phone number"
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tantek "Twitter Rules" links to https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311
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GWG dougbeal, do some tests of my own. Tonight I have some recently filed bugs to squash.
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dougbeal|mb1 GWG: sounds good
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GWG On three of my plugins.
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[kevinmarks] tantek: on your actual twitter client, or is that an email? could be phishing
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tantek kevinmarks - on any twitter.com URL
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bear your twitter url looks normal, well except for the fact you last posted on the 7th
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tantek bear, yeah
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tantek this is the third time I have seen this happen personally, but first time for an established account (as opposed to a brand new account for a specific project etc.)