#indieweb 2017-05-13

2017-05-13 UTC
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davidmead
anyone use @pfefferle SemPress theme and benn having issues?
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tantek
what is SemPress?
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Loqi
SemPress is a highly semantic WordPress Theme with HTML5 templates, responsive and seo optimized https://indieweb.org/SemPress
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tantek
oh nice
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davidmead
It’s been great @tantek. I’ve opened some issues on github, but i just wondered if anyone here has been having issues with the update
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tantek
checks for an IndieWeb Examples section
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tantek
davidmead: could you add an "IndieWeb Examples" section on https://indieweb.org/SemPress and list yourself to start with? That way maybe we can collect more people that are using it (and have a wiki way to answer your question in the future :) )
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davidmead
done :-)
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[tamaracks]
@davidmead I use SenPress (also by pfefferle), which is a child theme of SemPress, and I haven’t seen any issues. But it could be due to one of the differences the child introduces.
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davidmead
There was just a recent update. I’ve been using it for ages so I can’t remember if the issues are “normal” and I coded around them, if it’s a change to how the theme now works :-( I ay have to grab the old version from GitHub and see if that helps
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[tamaracks]
Yes, I did update SemPress.
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ben_thatmustbeme
haha! can tell IWC tomorrow that microformats2-ruby parser has just been release
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Loqi
rofl
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GWG
Hello, ben_thatmustbeme
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[chrisaldrich]
tantek++ for changes in layout of HWC, I've been meaning to do something like that myself for a while.
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Loqi
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: tantek left you a message 4 hours, 29 minutes ago: what do you think of the merged HWC Where/venue and RSVPs e.g. here: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-17-homebrew-website-club#Where ?
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lukasros
Good morning IndieWeb! I'm on a train on my way to IWC Düsseldorf.
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@btconf
Good Morning. #IndieWebCamp day 1! Meet us at 9:00 in the @sipgate office to get ready for the @indiewebcamp.
(twitter.com/_/status/863261776296779776)
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aaronpk
Good morning!
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Loqi
aaronpk: tantek left you a message 6 hours, 15 minutes ago: what do you think of the merged HWC Where/venue and RSVPs e.g. here: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-17-homebrew-website-club#Where ?
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aaronpk
That probably makes sense, makes it easier to ignore the rest of the page if you only are looking for one city info
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[tamaracks]
Good evening. ?
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@btconf
This way to the #IndieWebCamp at @sipgateDE, this way please … (follow the red #btconf flag) https://twitter.com/btconf/status/863286945425895424/photo/1
(twitter.com/_/status/863286945425895424)
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@m_ott
A wonderful first day to everyone at the #IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf! Looking forward to joining you tomorrow. ?
(twitter.com/_/status/863287823314685952)
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[colinwalker]
Good morning all
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aaronpk
Good morning!
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adactio
Greetings from Düsseldorf!
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Loqi
adactio: tantek left you a message 1 week, 2 days ago: any photos from the Brighton or London HWC 2017-05-03? https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-03-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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Loqi
adactio: tantek left you a message 8 hours, 28 minutes ago: what do you think of the merged HWC Where/venue and RSVPs e.g. here: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-17-homebrew-website-club#Where ?
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[jeremycherfas]
!tell lukasros I hope you have a great time.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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lukasros
Thanks Jeremy!
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Loqi
lukasros: [jeremycherfas] left you a message 2 minutes ago: I hope you have a great time.
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@Digitalkapitaen
Just today a friends drawing (nudity) was removed by #Facebook. One more reason why I am @IndieWebCampDE @sipgateDE today! #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/863303181131972608)
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@Digitalkapitaen
Today @IndieWebCampDE: It took 24 minutes until dev tools are open and (html) source code is shown. Love it! #DeveloperAtHeart
(twitter.com/_/status/863309677580472320)
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb!
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Loqi
Zegnat: [jeremycherfas] left you a message 15 hours, 54 minutes ago: is that Tufte CSS for Marked2 available publicly?
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Zegnat
Who is putting Düsseldorf into IRC for me today? ;)
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[andreasnebiker]
#indieweb DUS17 Session: Serviceworkers: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/iwcdus17_serviceworker
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@Digitalkapitaen
Implementing #ServiceWorkers is like doing a Man-In-The-Middle-Attack on your website says @adactio @IndieWebCampDE
(twitter.com/_/status/863322001934602241)
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Zegnat
Lets see how much bandwidth the livestream eats.
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Zegnat
sebsel next to [andreasnebiker]?
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sebsel
We're in a session about ServiceWorkers. There's Indieweb basics / buildingblocks in the next room
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aaronpk
any remote people want to transcribe this schedule grid to the wiki? https://aaronparecki.com/2017/05/13/14/schedule
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] Schedule grid for day 1 of IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf https://aaronparecki.com/2017/05/13/14/photo.jpg
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@calum_ryan
IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf 2017 under way! The schedule planning #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/863325781866541056)
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Zegnat
I can get on that after breakfast, aaronpk
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Zegnat
If nobody beads me to it. sknebel, you remotely participating?
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[jeremycherfas]
!tell kevinmarks Thank you.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat
[jeremycherfas]: my Marked2 specific stylesheet is not publicly available. Way too much still untested cases in there for me to share it. But just the default tuftecss goes a long way.
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[jeremycherfas]
Thanks. I think I can work with the basics that kevinmarks pointed me to.
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gRegorLove
Hah. "Monsters, mailboxes, and other nonsense"
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[jeremycherfas]
But for now I have something else to work on. Just that I like Tufte’s own presentation quite a lot, so I’m interested.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "@ChrisAldrich @WithKnown! Happy 3rd birthday - I joined #Known on September 14th 2014, so 4 days after you Chris :) #indieweb" by Rob Fairhead on 2017-05-12 http://www.raretrack.uk/2017/chrisaldrich-withknown-happy-3rd-birthday---i-joined-known-on
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Zegnat
Glenn isn’t in Düsseldorf this year? That’s too bad for this particular session :(
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@calum_ryan
Discussing an #offline approach (specifically what are and what #serviceworkers do for your website) #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/calum_ryan/status/863327614609575936/photo/1
(twitter.com/_/status/863327614609575936)
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Zegnat
Working on the schedule grid now
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aaronpk
thanks!
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Zegnat
stream seems to have hick-ups sometimes. Wondering if that is me or you
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Loqi
[turbolinks] turbolinks: Turbolinks makes navigating your web application faster
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aaronpk
i see a glitch on my end from a couple minutes ago
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Zegnat
What hastag will be used for 14:30-left? aaronpk?
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aaronpk
how bout #hardware
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Zegnat
Alright
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Zegnat
There were two, so I was slightly confused
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aaronpk
Zegnat++ thanks!
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Loqi
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Zegnat
I turned Lunch into Group Photo and Lunch ;)
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Zegnat
aaronpk, do we want all the “hashtags” to link to etherpads?
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aaronpk
that'd be great!
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Zegnat
’cause that could be set-up right now
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Zegnat
Someone will have to inform the people there to use that scheme
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aaronpk
normally we just do the hashtag
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Zegnat
Isn’t that going to conflict with older sessions?
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Zegnat
Or do we not care for the archive?
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aaronpk
yeah that's fine, we just move the older session down or delete it once it's on the wiki
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Zegnat
Alright, just the tags then, links coming right up
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sebsel
The notes go to the wiki as well right?
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aaronpk
yeah, the etherpad is just a temporary location
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Zegnat
At the ennd of the day, will copy all the etherpads to the wiki
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Zegnat
closes livestream, it has already eaten 100 megs out of his daily allowance
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Zegnat
In fact, just ping me at the end of the day when you guys go for a drink at the river and I will copy the etherpads ;)
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Zegnat
All tags have been etherpad-linked. The Start session has not used /start though (?). aaronpk, please tell everyone to use the linked etherpads if they can :D
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aaronpk
thank you!
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Zegnat
is taking his remote participation seriously
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Loqi
awesome
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gRegorLove
The same hashtags can be good to help find previous discussion on the topic
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gRegorLove
After dumping I leave a little comment block with link to the wiki, better than just deleting: E.g. https://etherpad.indieweb.org/serviceworkers
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Zegnat
That’s a good practise gRegorLove. Making a note of your syntax, so I would be able to follow that if I end up dumping todat’s etherpads.
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Zegnat
s/todat/today/
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Zegnat
Do note that the wiki pages may not actually be *actual* archives. I think I have rewritten an etherpad dump to a proper page at least once.
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gRegorLove
Happy camping! Time for some zzzz
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gRegorLove
Oh, yeah, definitely wiki pages get improved. Could say
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gRegorLove
"Dumped to" instead
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Zegnat
I’ll put your snippet on /etherpad. It is a good one.
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[andreasnebiker]
The Etherpad for our next session: The IndieWeb-State of CMS: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/iwcdus17_stateofcms
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Zegnat
[andreasnebiker], so you are going with the prefix for etherpads?
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Zegnat
I will fix the wiki link.
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Zegnat
Anyone know if checkins is using #checkins for their pad?
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Zegnat
[andreasnebiker]: cms link on schedule has been updated
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Zegnat
Looks like #checkins is in the right pad. Good stuff.
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Jeena
Wow, really good sound in the stream
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Zegnat
This is going to change my life: https://mjtsai.com/blog/2017/05/12/better-github-searching/ . No more search results from tests <3
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sknebel
good morning!
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Zegnat
Good morning sknebel!
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Zegnat
Any plans for IWC Düsseldorf, sknebel?
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sknebel
Zegnat: I'll probably hack a bit on my site, as normal, and maybe peek into the streams occasionally (and of course try to watch the demos at the end), but I have other stuff to do this weekend (and if I don't get around to that, I should have gotten the first train 4.30am to DUS today, that'd been more effective participation ;))
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Zegnat
Haha, true
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Loqi
Zegnat: lol
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sknebel
do you have any projects? I saw a screenshot of an activity-tracking thing(?)?
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Zegnat
Yes, that’s my project.
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Zegnat
Facebook allows you to put activities on your posts, and I really like that. I am trying to get a thing like that going myself.
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Zegnat
If you do not know the FB app, sknebel: http://zegnat.net/tmp/fb.png
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sknebel
I did not, thx. So that's not a post on it's own, but an attached property of one (like "I wrote this/took this picture while ...")?
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Zegnat
The icons shown there are default. But if I pick “Watching” and enter a TV program, the icon on my actual post will change over to a TV.
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Zegnat
In case of FB, it is attached, yes. Because Facebook would still like you to post a status update. Though I am not sure if they actually require one.
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Zegnat
Example post from earlier this week: http://zegnat.net/tmp/fb2.png
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Zegnat
Facebook added the Eurovision “card” to the bottom of my post themselves.
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Zegnat
sknebel, another good example, a FB friend of mine just posted a /food and /checkin combined: http://zegnat.net/tmp/fb3.png
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Zegnat
Here FB changed the eating icon to match the meal.
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sknebel
that's clever
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[colinwalker]
First quick pass at a directory pulled from webmentions. Not relying on Semantic Linkbacks to make it a bit more generic. Needs prettying up but works okay.
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Loqi
Colin Walker colin@colinwalker.blog Thinker, writer, ideas man. Blogger & microcaster.
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@html5test
A little unexpected and unprepared, but I'm going to talk a bit about monsters, mailboxes and other nonsense at #IndieWebCamp in an hour.
(twitter.com/_/status/863357527618191360)
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sknebel
[colinwalker]++ nice
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Loqi
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sknebel
What is current schedule?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "current schedule" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat
Does that auto-update, [colinwalker]? If I send you a webmention, do I automatically show up?
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[colinwalker]
@zegnat it doesn't react in real-time if you leave the page open but you will show next time the page is loaded.
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[colinwalker]
Real-time updating would be cool though, wouldn't it!
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Zegnat
I didn’t expect the page to update itself, I meant on refresh. Interesting. I wonder if that isn’t likely to get spammed.
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[colinwalker]
Isn't everything ?
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sknebel
is it more spam-risky than just the normal display of WMs? (assuming you have something like that, we both don't yet ;))
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[colinwalker]
It just pulls the same data that lists comments on posts but puts them in one place and filters for duplicates. I don't have a "send me a webmention" form anywhere on my site so it relies on people being set up to send.
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Zegnat
It depends on how wide you accept webmentions. You might accept webmentions on your homepage, those will not show up as text under any post and are harder to detect as spam. If those suddenly show links on the directory that is a prime way for people to get you to link to them.
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Zegnat
I do show up a little weird on that directory: https://colinwalker.blog/directory/
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Loqi
Colin Walker colin@colinwalker.blog Thinker, writer, ideas man. Blogger & microcaster.
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[colinwalker]
Yeah, that is a bit weird - it just uses what the author name comes through as
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Zegnat
That definitely shouldn’t be the author name on my post. It has taken the contents of the TITLE tag.
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Zegnat
afk for a minute, grabbing lunch
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[colinwalker]
It could be the existing issues with detection in various plugins
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Zegnat
Or an issue with my mark-up, which is definitely not an impossibility. Wouldn’t be the first time I am stretching things with my mark-up.
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sknebel
but there is no author on the post object
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sknebel
just on the entire page
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[colinwalker]
Yeah the u-author is outside the h-entry
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sknebel
I'm not sure if that's ok on a permalink page or not, consumer-friendlier would be to have a p-author set
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[colinwalker]
I just edited the name in the comment ;)
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Zegnat
I believe my page works with the authorship algo
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Zegnat
What is authorship?
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Loqi
authorship is a claim about who the author(s) of a post are https://indieweb.org/authorship
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Zegnat
pin13 doesn’t follow the algo, IIRC, as it is a mf2 parser only
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aaronpk
ah yeah Zegnat's site is tricky
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aaronpk
gotta recognize the rel=author on the page, then find the h-card that matches
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aaronpk
[colinwalker]: I recommend reading through https://indieweb.org/authorship
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aaronpk
hm maybe we need some test pages that hit all the cases on that page
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Zegnat
I like to treat my entire site as one huge test case for other people’s work ;)
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[jeremycherfas]
Making progress on getting webmentions displayed on my Grav site. Seems like a good moment to break for lunch.
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ben_thatmustbeme
I won't be around today, but feel free to announce the mf2 Ruby parser just got a complete rewrite. Now fully works
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[colinwalker]
aaronpk I'm just relying on the webmentions plugin rather than doing anything manually. Could try a version pulling the data from Semantic Linkbacks instead. Will check my DB tables later to see what that detects.
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aaronpk
oh this is the wordpress plugin?
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[colinwalker]
custom template
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Zegnat
[colinwalker], which webmentions plugin are you using? Maybe authorship is a known bug, or maybe we have to file a new bug report
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[andreasnebiker]
Is there an etherpad for the "distributed indieauth" session?
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[andreasnebiker]
Oh I see... I just (finally) realise that all etherpads are already linked. Feeling super stupid now ? Sry.
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Zegnat
[andreasnebiker], no problem. If you know about a session that has been using an etherpad with a different name then the one linked, let me know and I will update the wiki!
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sknebel
(what is the hardware session about?)
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sknebel
(they haven't started their etherpad yet)
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[colinwalker]
I'm using Ryan's webmentions plugin
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[colinwalker]
aaronpk Hmmm. Your's isn't showing will check my logic.
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@webrocker
a VERY misleading impression of how great the 1st quarter of the #IndieWebCamp weekend in Düsseldorf actually is :) https://twitter.com/webrocker/status/863375409987145728/photo/1
(twitter.com/_/status/863375409987145728)
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Zegnat
Hmm, Facebook makes it pretty hard to hide all PII easily with CSS.
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[colinwalker]
aaronpk I wonder if it's because it's not been recognised as a webmention. Will check the database later.
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[colinwalker]
D'oh! The webmentions plugin is by pfefferle
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[colinwalker]
Ryan's is the micropub plugin
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sknebel
oh, sebastian is in Düsseldorf? I missed that :/ Gotta watch the the recording of the #indieauth session then
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sknebel
what is current schedule?
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aaronpk
Groups will be streamed next
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Zegnat
aaronpk, random, but, why are you using 3 character country codes? (DEU for Germany?)
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aaronpk
where is that?
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aaronpk
oh in the location on my posts
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aaronpk
that's what comes back from the geocoder :shrug:
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Zegnat
Can someone ask Julie if she released (c) on the group photo so I can put it on the wiki? aaronpk? sebsel?
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@jkphl
@martijnvdven @indiewebcamp @iwontsignuphere @iwontsignuphere Could you pls take care of setting the usual CC license type on Flickr?
(twitter.com/_/status/863391249042157569)
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sknebel
do we have a list of websub/pubsubhubbub client libaries somewhere?
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@joelpurra
Homebrew Website Club #Berlin needs a location for meeting 19:00 Wednesday May 17th. Got office? #indieweb https://www.meetup.com/Indie-Web-Homebrew-Website-Club/events/239928322/i3/socialmedia/
(twitter.com/_/status/863396343078940672)
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sgreger
remotely following the "onboarding" session from DUS :)
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Zegnat
welcome sgreger!
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Zegnat
sknebel, I don’t think so? But websub is still a bit of a question mark to me.
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sgreger
...took the freedom to drop the link to our memo/materials from IWC Berlin on that topic into the etherpad already
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sknebel
morning sgreger!
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sknebel
Zegnat: seems so, and my googling hasn'T been very successful either, despite pubsubhubbub being around quite a while
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sgreger
i wish i could be there. but hey, it's only 7 days to IWC Nürnberg!
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sknebel
(is aaronpk in the room for onboarding?)
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[andreasnebiker]
Nope. He's in #gallery
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Zegnat
An actual talk with slides at IWC?! :o
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sgreger
great session, with a lot of good thoughts to build on. i tried to document to etherpad as good as i could (with a somewhat spotty internet connection today)
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sknebel
sgreger++
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Loqi
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sknebel
I hope there will be a continuation of it in Nürnberg as hinted – if not officially, then in the pub
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sknebel
(sgreger: when do you arrive in Nürnerg)
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sgreger
sknebel: Sat 09:25, so should make it to Tollwerk just-in-time ;)
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Zegnat
As long as someone then includes me in the pubtalk, I am good ;) Better get that mobile Quassel going, sknebel
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sknebel
will do
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@awoods
@tommcfarlin those are good things. but the requirment to use their server is more centralization, which doesn’t seem very indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/863417048252137472)
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Zegnat
I have now made my Facebook-feed screenshot friendly by blacking-out names and hiding avatars. It also makes me reconsider the worth of Facebook. Without names above posts a lot of it is total garbage that makes me wonder why I am seeing it. I have even mistaken someone’s post for an ad!
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sknebel
anonymizing user-css?
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Zegnat
I currently use https://github.com/1999/controlfreak to apply the CSS, for those who want to give it a shot
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Loqi
[1999] controlfreak: Extension to allow easy web page tweaks, similar to GreaseMonkey in spirit
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Jeena
I'm still amazed on how good the audio is on todays stream
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sgreger
agreed, great audio! aaronpk++
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sgreger
aaronpk++
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Loqi
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Jeena
aaronpk++
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Loqi
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aaronpk
Oh good! I tried!
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GWG
I have to go listen. I always comment on that
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sknebel
agreed, was very good!
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GWG
I am thinking of working on food tracking. My doctor wants me to do a food diary
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Zegnat
Welcome to the club, GWG
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Zegnat
I am working on an activity feed thing, inspired by Facebook, that would also track food.
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GWG
Which club?
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Zegnat
People tracking food.
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GWG
The poor eating habits club?
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Zegnat
Hahaha, that one too, probably\
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Loqi
nice
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Zegnat
only knows how to cook 2 pasta dishes, and thats all he ate when at home during the last year
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GWG
I haven't seen anyone doing nutrition though
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Zegnat
That’s true. I would probably not track nutrition either. Mostly because I don’t know a good way how to.
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GWG
I am just starting to conte
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GWG
mplate that
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GWG
I was wondering if anyone had pursued it
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Zegnat
I know people who track calorie intake, maybe I can ask around, but I find most of that somewhat limiting in information
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GWG
I would want full nutritional data
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Zegnat
Diabetik, a mobile app for tracking diabetes related info, used to have a open nutrition database I believe. But they might have gone /poof/ as their domain no longer resolves :\
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Zegnat
GWG, my main concern would be with restaurant food though. I can transcribe nutrition facts from packaging when I do my own cooking, but not elsewhere.
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GWG
That is an issue regardless
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@huffduffer
This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • May 6th - 12th, 2017 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/407720
(twitter.com/_/status/863443864543260672)
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@schmarty
Your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for May 6th - 12th, 2017. https://martymcgui.re/2017/05/13/131726/
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gRegorLove
Good morning, indieweb
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gRegorLove
Earlier talk of /authorship inspired me to do some more work on indiewebify.me
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gRegorLove
Will see if I can get some updates today in time for IWC demos
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[colinwalker]
Hey Gregor
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gRegorLove
o/ [colinwalker]
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GWG
Gregorlove, you have any thoughts about doing nutritional info on one's site?
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gRegorLove
Not sure
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Zegnat
(If you need a testing link, there you go ;))
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gRegorLove
GWG: Any examples in the wild?
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gRegorLove
What is nutrition?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "nutrition" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove
What is food?
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Loqi
Food is a post type that represents eating or drinking particular food or drink https://indieweb.org/food
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GWG
Not that I know of
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gRegorLove
There's probably apps out there, though don't know if they have any web components.
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GWG
aaronpk, for example, posts food and drink, but isn't tracking the nutritional or calorie implications
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GWG
MyFitnessPal has a web app
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sknebel
what is authorship?
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Loqi
authorship is a claim about who the author(s) of a post are https://indieweb.org/authorship
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gRegorLove
Zegnat: That's on my radar, yep. :) I might improve the rel-me tests as a simpler project, though.
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GWG
For me...question 1 is has anyone done anything in this area in the community or thought about it. After that, the second part is researching comparable offerings.
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gRegorLove
They're too strict, report "not linking back" when really it links back, but https has been downgraded to http
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sknebel
what is permalink?
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Loqi
A permalink is a URL which typically represents and retrieves a single post (also explicitly called a post permalink) https://indieweb.org/permalink
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gRegorLove
sknebel: Good question on /authorship#Questions. I think url == u-url is the right test for permalink page.
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Zegnat
Right, yes, a permalink post is a page with an h-entry whos u-url is the page's URL. (That h-entry is the main object of the URL, basically.)
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Zegnat
Same goes for h-cards. It is a representative h-card if the u-url of the h-card matches the URL of the page the h-card is on.
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@schnarfed
@awoods @tommcfarlin indieweb focuses more on owning your domain and content, less on how much plumbing underneath… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/863463411966894080
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Zegnat
Hmm, Facebook lets me stack a checkin, a person tag, and an activity. But only 1 activity. I couldn’t add what I am drinking to what I am watching.
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@schoschie
Day 1 of #indiewebcamp is over; I'm going to fall asleep in about an hour max. #iwc
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@celinewinkel
Had the best kickoff at #IndieWebCamp and wonderful creative office @sipgate looking forward to the next days of… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/863488296277626880
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@poke
@jkphl @webgefrickel Same procedure as every year… Geht bei euch noch was? Wo hängt ihr rum, noch im Schlüssel? #IndieWebCamp
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gRegorLove
Think I've got improved rel-me checking on indiewebify.me working on dev.
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gRegorLove
It gives improved responses if you enter an https URL but the silo rel-me link is to http. It used to just fail, but it passes with a note "link back is to http:// not https://" e.g. http://gregoreatworld.com/indiewebify-me/web/validate-rel-me/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faaronparecki.com
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gRegorLove
I'll do some more testing and put together a PR later today.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Liked Jimmy Baum: Skip to content Blog About Archives Contact Jimmy Baum in Microblog | 11 May, 2017 7:56 PM Micro.blog/IndieWeb communities have been a big inspiration to start a blog and write more. I have a few larger posts coming. Thanks for great advice, Chris Aldrich, Raam Dev, and Colin Walker." by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-13 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/liked-jimmy-baum-skip-to-content-blog-about-archives-contact
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aaronpk
Ooh awesome
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gRegorLove
It also gave "couldn't be fetched" as a kind of generic response when it couldn't find a rel-me link back. It doesn't anymore, unless there's actually an issue fetching the URL
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gRegorLove
Compare eddie's instagram on the live site vs ^^^
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GWG
aaronpk: When you did Teacup, did you consider nutritional information?
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gRegorLove
Were there etherpads for: #start, #hardware, #tls? Ones linked on the wiki are blank.
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aaronpk
GWG: yeah, i experimented with a couple apps before I made teacup and the amount of work it took to enter food in a way that includes nutritional info was too much for me to sustain it
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GWG
aaronpk, that is what I am contemplating.
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Zegnat
gRegorLove: links were created before the sessions even started, for easy access. So they don’t reflect usage I am afraid. Don’t know if any others were used. There was very little IRL-IRC overlap today
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[pfefferle]
good morning
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[andreasnebiker]
Good night o/
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[andreasnebiker]
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Loqi
buenas noches
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GWG
Hello
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[pfefferle]
GWG had a look at your merge request
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[pfefferle]
GWG I added a comment
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GWG
[pfefferle]: I just saw that. How does it look otherwise?
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[pfefferle]
GWG to be honest, I am not sure why to change so much
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[pfefferle]
GWG because they seem not to help with the type issue
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GWG
Well, it only parsed h-entrys, it didn't pull external h-cards, it didn't store any properties.
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[pfefferle]
GWG hmmm ok
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GWG
[pfefferle]: That was part of the changes. As for the type issue...
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GWG
[pfefferle]: The URL has already been verified previously. There is no need to verify it again.
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GWG
[pfefferle]: In the broader get_representative_item, which replaced representative_entry, it searches for the URL.
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[pfefferle]
GWG I added an example
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GWG
Didn't consider that example.
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GWG
Let me have a further look at that and the other author thing.
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[pfefferle]
GWG thanks
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GWG
[pfefferle]: But the changes allow for a lot of potentially exciting enhancements for the future, in addition to a bunch of fixes.
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GWG
Re the example, do people usually put u-in-reply-to and u-like-of in the same h-entry.
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GWG
[pfefferle]: I've been testing the output using that debugging file I added in. I'll see about tightening up the code to address the issues.
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[pfefferle]
GWG I added another example
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[pfefferle]
GWG if you use more than one link in a post, all links in that post would get the same type, even if they have no specific type.
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[pfefferle]
GWG and that happens a lot
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GWG
[pfefferle]: Back to the drawing board, I suppose. The rest of the stuff, I think, is worth saving. So I'll trace back the persistent issue.
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[pfefferle]
GWG I started some unittests, perhaps I can add them tomorrow.
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GWG
[pfefferle]: The hope I have is to broaden things so that new functionality can come, even if not in the plugin. For example, storing the properties in the flattened manner I set up means I could deduplicate a Bridgy syndicated and the original link; adding location properties means a comment could note the location, etc.
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petermolnar
can someone point me at a js-only page without <noscript> fallback? I may have found a solution for my pains in 'elinks', a cli browser which has spidermonkey support, but I need a little more testing
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GWG
[pfefferle]: But considering that right now there is no support in the plugin for anything but h-card and h-entry...maybe I should move that to an action/filter hook and ignore them otherwise.
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[pfefferle]
GWG i would not prepare to much data for specific problems but add some possibilities to use them anyways, so yes I would recomment actions and filters
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[pfefferle]
GWG I would love to see a much simpler version of the sl plugin... I gets way to complicated...
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GWG
[pfefferle]: Simpler than the current version, simpler than my PR version?
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[pfefferle]
GWG simpler than both ?
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GWG
[pfefferle]: Well, the only idea I had in that direction was eliminating the semantic_linkback properties in favor of the mf2_ properties that both snarfed and I are using to represent same.
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GWG
I'd like to make each response type a custom comment type, except for what that would end up doing without WordPress better supporting custom comment types.
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[pfefferle]
GWG no problem, change what you want, but we should provide a migration then
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davidmead
hi GWG. Do you know if it’s the micropub WP plugin that adds the image code to the post?
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GWG
[pfefferle]: I would. But I'm trying to figure out what the simplest form is.
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davidmead
when syndicating from ownyourgram
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GWG
davidmead: It should.
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davidmead
hmm. then it’s not
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davidmead
let me grab an older version and roll back. see of that fixes my issue
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GWG
davidmead: If you are using Post Kinds, I have someone who filed a bug re the setting of Micropub properties to Post Kinds.
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GWG
[pfefferle]: Do you have any general ideas about what would make it simpler?
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davidmead
i don’t use post kinds
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GWG
davidmead: Then it can't be that, good.
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[pfefferle]
GWG sadly no
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[pfefferle]
davidmead I added a comment to your issue
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davidmead
thx pfefferle. i’ll go look
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GWG
Well, maybe I will try a rewrite on the code I submitted. Keep the elements I like, but look at simplifying the rest.
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[pfefferle]
GWG let's start fixing the type first
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GWG
pfefferle: I agree, but the problem appears to be in the compare_urls function
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[pfefferle]
GWG might be... otherwise we had no issue with the type ?
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GWG
pfefferle, will be looking to simplify at the same time
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@Johannes_Ernst
Indie Web Summit & Open Source Bridge, here I come! Just registered. See you in Portland OR? https://2017.indieweb.org/ http://opensourcebridge.org/
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[pfefferle]
GWG thanks a lot
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[pfefferle]
I am off to bed, bye bye
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GWG
pfefferle, I do it for myself, you, and the community
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GWG
You are welcome though
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