#GWGtantek: I always value your brainstorming. My doctor has recommended I start a food dairy to track my eating habits and I was thinking of doing it with my website. I asked aaronpk and he commented that he'd thought about nutritional tracking for Teacup but found it too complicated. If something is too complicated for aaronpk, I'm wondering if I should abandon the idea. Which could send me to a silo.
#tantekGWG I did food tracking for about a year as part of making dietary adjustments myself.
#tantekI found it was too hard to always get precise information, so rather than only track what I could "count", I tracked everything, with however much detail I could capture at the time
#tanteknutritional tracking is hard, and sometimes especially hard to figure out at the moment you are eating.
#GWGA lot of the stuff I have has labels. And I commonly use the same items.
#tanteksometimes I would just write down descriptions, and places/times, maybe take a photo
#tantekand then only later (like once a week), review my notes and try to calculate calories etc.
#tantektrying to do it immediately for every meal was much too hard
#GWGtantek: For me, I'm going to be preparing my own meals for a bit before I reintroduce eating out as much as I did. That is how I did well last time.
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#[andreasnebiker]Wiki Question: Where do we put pages? Is there structuring advice?
#[andreasnebiker]We'd like to distill our CMS talk from yesterday into a generic CMS entry page on the wiki. There's https://indieweb.org/2014/UK/indie-cms ... so should we create 2017/DUS/cms? Or can we just go in and change the /CMS page?
#aaronpksomeone who knows about the wordpress webmention plugin... we need some help here. any idea why the plugin would be returning an error "Target and source cannot direct to the same resource" even when I put two different URLs for source and target?
#gRegorLoveWell, I'll keep that in mind for near future updates. Going to focus on some contrast / text accessibility, and the fir for te rel-me links
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#aaronpki'm not opposed to using telegraph tho. you could even return the status URLs that telegraph returns cause it provides a bunch of extra debug information that way
#[colinwalker]Is it bad that I'm overthinking showing webmentions from my own site? Does anyone else do that or exclude them? I feel it acts as a means of showing relevant posts so ideally want to keep them. Perhaps, I'll l filter them and put them in a little "relevant posts" section on their own so as to differentiate from external mentions. What do to you think?
#tantekaaronpk: I don't think a pinned post needs to look that *pinned* - as long as there is some indicator, I think that is ok. Pinned is still meant to be "in stream". contrast for example, the "one day banner"
#Loqione day banner is a feature on some sites where they show a banner at or near the top of the page as a call to action for something for that day in particular, like a protest or an election https://indieweb.org/one_day_banner
#tantek[colinwalker]: not bad at all - lots of interesting design questions for showing webmentions
#tantekrather than just showing "relevant posts", webmention acts as a way to show full comment threads, likes etc. on your posts
#tantekoh - *from my own site* - yes that can be challenging too - though your own self-mentions may just be replies and follow-ups! which should be threaded and shown more than just a "relevant posts" section
#[colinwalker]tantek Thanks. Good ideas there. Definitely given me something to think about.
#tantekI'd say just show them along with all the other webmentions for now, and document the specific examples where they seem odd there. from those concrete examples you'll better be able to design a solution for them in particular
#Loqi[superfeedr] "Inspired by #IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf demos, a bit on pinned posts: https://indieweb.org/pinned#Brainstorming
My current #indieweb itches need more design thinking before building and deploying. By iterating, minimizing, simplifying, eventually something clicks and it’s easier to switch into coding thinking, then build, test, ship, use, demo.
Capturing and sharing my design thinking in progress on various site features here:
* https://indieweb.org/Falcon#Working_On
in the hopes that others implementing similar features for their sites may benefit or can contribute suggestions as well." on 2017-05-14 http://tantek.com/2017/134/t2/brainstormed-more-pinned-posts
#miklbI glossed through the logs, I'd like to hear/see more about that posting UI that turns posts longer than a tweet into a post w/1st line as title.
#miklbsounds very freeing. Just write what's on your mind, and let the tool decide how it should be POSSEd
#aaronpkI might try adding that to the Quill note interface. I find myself often starting what I think will be a short note but it goes on for a while, and I don't want to switch to the full HTML editor but I want to give it a title
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#[sebsel]I actually thought my micropub endpoint that if the ‘content’ field’s first line starts with a #, (a h1 in markdown), it uses that as a name-field.
#[sebsel]I type all my longer blogs/articles in Quill using that.
#Loqi[veganstraightedge] markdown_media: A [[ URL ]] syntax to embed media into views.
#[shaners]It can used to add a thin layer of extra syntax on top of Markdown to make embedding media much simpler.
#[shaners]Similarish to what WordPress does with its short codes, but it does type auto discovery from the URL instead of the write explicitly saying what kind is. For example:
#[shaners]We use this in every article we publish on crimethinc.com. I went to use it on my blob and realized that I didn’t have it. Duh. So, I extracted it from the CrimethInc. Rails app into a gem to re-use in Dark Matter (for my site).
#[shaners]This is implemented in Ruby, but could just as easily be implemented in PHP or whatever. If anyone wants to use the same syntax for simpler media embeds.
#[eddie]Does anyone fetch YouTube activity? I'm thinking about trying to store my YouTube "Like" video activity into native IndieWeb likes. Just wanted to see if anyone has experience and/or services with YouTube stuff yet
#[eddie]Looks like not much stuff there yet. I'm kind of picturing a "OwnYour___" type service to get Likes, and History. Those would be pretty simple looking at the API. I think I'll start with that and ignore comments
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#KartikPrabhu[eddie]: if you figure it out document on that page
#tantekwhereas a separate CMS page makes sense as the place for people to go who are *looking* for a CMS to use
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#[shaners]kevinmarks yep! My original take on auto link was pretty much like cassis. Dark Matter uses the naked URL approach in notes.
#[shaners] But I wanted something a little more structured and robust for crimethinc.com since there are multiple writers with varying skill levels and comfort zones.
#[shaners]@Zegnat ? if you do, I can answer any questions you may have about my ruby codes.