#indieweb 2017-05-15
2017-05-15 UTC
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[raamdev] Hey All, I've got a quick question that I'm hoping someone here can answer. I'm using WordPress with Brid.gy + Semantic Linkbacks plugin + Webmentions plugin and I see that 'webmention' comments are being created with content that does not display nicely at all unless the Semantic Linkbacks plugin is installed. I'm wondering where the comment format I'm seeing is coming from ("tag:twitter.com,2013:81591..."):
# [raamdev] @GWG: Ah, that's what I suspected. Ugh. I was hoping it was one of the plugins formatting that, since I really wish it was stored in a more friendly way, something that could still be easily parsed without the plugin active (should I ever decide to stop using the plugin, or just so that the WP database data is more portable in the future and not so dependent on a plugin).
# [raamdev] @GWG: What about using comment_meta?
# [raamdev] @GWG: Is this the GitHub issue where that's being discussed? https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/55
# [raamdev] Hmm, it seems the only other option would be a Custom Post Type, but that seems like it might be a bit excessive. Is this stuff being discussed anywhere else where I can follow along? I'm a longtime WP developer and I'd love to help out.
# [raamdev] @GWG: Right, but the common misconception about Custom Post Types is that they were never designed to be Custom "Post" Types, but rather "Custom Content Types", so you could definitely use them for this scenario.
# [raamdev] @GWG: Good point. I can see why things are where they are now. Hmmm.
# [raamdev] Is there any push to get better webmention support in WP Core? Are there any Trac tickets open?
# [raamdev] Let me search first. ?
# [raamdev] Ah, cool. Thank you. I'll pull together my thoughts and leave a comment on both of those.
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tantek peripherally indieweb related, with regard to POSSEing - apparently some disagree with linking FB & Twitter: https://twitter.com/BPullias/status/860668932084170752
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@BPullias Talking social business during yoga teacher training. Please, please don't link your Facebook and Twitter account together. #ytt https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/C_G10lPXUAAfPuW.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/860668932084170752)
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# [tamaracks] Hmm, I wonder why she thinks that. It’s too bad she doesn’t elaborate.
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gRegorLove tantek: Yeah, I didn't mean the pages in their entirely, just the table on /CMS. I updated it with a list based on the [[Category:CMS]] since the information in the table is on all of the separate CMS pages
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@webrocker Many thanks to Axel + everyone @sipgate for having us @indiewebcamp – I hope we didn't leave too much of a mess at your wonderful location (twitter.com/_/status/864001469355261952)
# @webrocker .@sipgate @indiewebcamp And of course for providing food, coffee and good vibrations and hosting the #btconf warm up crowd (twitter.com/_/status/864001974630526976)
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@sipgateDE @webrocker @sipgate @indiewebcamp Don't worry, everything's just fine. Have a wonderful week ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/864008320142671872)
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# leg coriolis
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# mpfefferle good morning
# mpfefferle !tell GWG what do you think if we split the SL code into several classes for specific problems, so that we can keep the methods smaller and simpler? for example an author-handler, and entry-handler, ...
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petermolnar morning
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@schoschie Grossen Dank an @sipgateDE + Team für die Lokäjschen beim #indiewebcamp #dus – hätte kaum angenehmer sein können! ?? (twitter.com/_/status/864042563111702528)
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@Digitalkapitaen Spent some more time on this and now it is actually usable. https://github.com/digital-sailors/iam-indieauth #IndieAuth #IAM #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/864048575721992193)
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[colinwalker] Morning all. Crazy day at work so far thanks to out of date PCs and this whole malware thing going on!
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# mpfefferle hey colinwalker
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[jeremycherfas] Morning everyone. Late start today.
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# [colinwalker] Hi @mpfefferle & jeremycherfas
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KartikPrabhu today in side-files: https://twitter.com/emcconover/status/864096915918651393
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@emcconover My hobby: harassing scientific journals about their broken RSS feeds. (No, I don't want email alerts, I want RSS!) (twitter.com/_/status/864096915918651393)
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# petermolnar lol
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on @Mentions by What Chris Aldrich is doing Now" by What Chris Aldrich is doing Now on 2017-05-15 http://boffosocko.com/mentions/#comment-34653
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on About Chris Aldrich by What Chris Aldrich is doing Now" by What Chris Aldrich is doing Now on 2017-05-15 http://boffosocko.com/about/#comment-34654
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on Review and notes from The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing by Marie Kondo by What Chris Aldrich is doing Now" by What Chris Aldrich is doing Now on 2017-05-15 http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/09/the-life-changing-magic-of-tidying-up-by-marie-kondo/#comment-34655
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on Website Philosophy & Structure by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-15 http://boffosocko.com/about/website-philosophy-structure/#comment-34657
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb!
# dougbeal|mb1 Good morning
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# dougbeal|mb1 Has anyone gotten webmention spam? Thinking of having them auto-approve.
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ben_thatmustbeme dougbeal|mb1: i don't autoapprove, but i whitelisted things like bridgy, allow vouching to get around the approval process and then just whitelist the entire domain when approving
# ben_thatmustbeme i haven't seen any webmention spam yet
# ben_thatmustbeme only really from twitter bridgy integration
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# ben_thatmustbeme i've gotten a few that by the time i went to approval, the sites / domains were gone
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# dougbeal|mb1 Maybe I will pull in the indieweb.org user list as a starting place
# myfreeweb dougbeal|mb1: i haven't yet implemented NOT auto-approving them :D got no spam so far, no one wants to webmention me
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# gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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# [cleverdevil] For those who missed it, some great news on Known: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/known-dev/UXPHVXBmshQ
# gRegorLove dougbeal|mb1: I don't believe there's been any native webmention spam yet. Perhaps if you forward pingback to webmention there would be spam though.
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sebsel on the page for next HWC, Berlin is listed as GMT+1, but we're in Summertime now https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-17-homebrew-website-club
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# tantek current state of RSVP text shorthands design (and implemented) https://indieweb.org/rsvp#Text_Design
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# tantek and are there other verbs that may make sense as RSVP + /invitation ?
# KartikPrabhu i don't do RSVPs but those sound like good text versions
# tantek sebsel: see https://indieweb.org/rsvp#Text_Design for the p-rsvp value vs. text shorthands
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# tantek ok documented: https://indieweb.org/rsvp#Text_Design - now coding...
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# gRegorLove Ooh, Joshi's micrometa parser looks nice: http://micrometa.jkphl.is/v2/
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# gRegorLove KevinMarks has done some work with hovercards, may be helpful
# gRegorLove What is hovercard?
# Loqi A hovercard is a brief overview, usually including thumbnail, name, and description, that is shown in a rectangle overlapping in-context when you hover over something like a link, typically richer than a plain text tooltip https://indieweb.org/hovercard
# gRegorLove unmung.com has a tool to show indiecards
# gRegorLove microformats.org lists all the properties, though not necessarily which ones are used more / less often.
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Zegnat I wonder if we could hack this into POSSE to Instagram somehow, https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/08/instagram-photo-uploads-mobile-site/
# tantek Zegnat, feel free to add thoughts to https://indieweb.org/Instagram#POSSE_as_mobile_browser :)
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# [cleverdevil] I had recently asked that question as well, @Zengat ?
# [cleverdevil] I hope so!
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# Zegnat Also interesting, MetaFilter just officially changed the label on their “Gender” field to “ Gender and/or Pronouns”: http://metatalk.metafilter.com/24423/Making-room-for-pronouns-on-the-profile-page
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# gRegorLove Related Bridgy issue for Instagram mobile posting: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/746
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# myfreeweb so i've added a service worker to https://unrelenting.technology , should work offline now (auto caches pages, shows cached list when visiting an uncached page offline, also on slow connections returns from cache after a timeout and keeps fetching the new version)
# myfreeweb also it now sends web push notifications to me for incoming webmentions… though that doesn't work in chromium for android :D (but works in desktop firefox and opera)
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