#indieweb 2017-05-19

2017-05-19 UTC
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dougbeal
the debug console doesn't seem to be the right context to call them, as I'm not getting any output
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mblaney
trying to work out why my reader 500's on a particular feed
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GWG
dougbeal: The codex was superseded by the developer's reference
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mblaney
finds that it's because SimplePie runs out of memory...
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mblaney
looks into why it runs out of memory and find a 30mb gif
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mblaney
stops debugging to just enjoy the gif :-)
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Loqi
[Ricardo Mendes] Gif or Jif ? "The Oxford English Dictionary accepts both pronunciations," - are you sure ? 1 min read Gif or Jif ? "The Oxford English Dictionary accepts both pronunciation...
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dougbeal
GWG: changing it to get_stylesheet_directory fixes it
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dougbeal
Have to run, back in a hour or so.
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GWG
I will look into this.
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dougbeal
GWG: do you want me to file and issue?
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gRegorLove
codex is still correct for a lot of things, especially old functions like that which will probably never change
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GWG
dougbeal: Please do.
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gRegorLove
I wish they forwarded codex pages, though. I still search it out of habit then remember the new pages
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ben_thatmustbeme
anyone interested in a command line mf2 parse... simply run 'sudo gem install microformats'
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ben_thatmustbeme
the ruby parser includes a command line script 'microformats'
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Loqi
Tantek Çelik h
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ben_thatmustbeme
will give you JSON equivalent :)
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miklb
sudo? ick ;-)
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GWG
Ick?
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miklb
at least in a macOS environment, sudo installing gems bad things can happen from my experience.
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GWG
Installing anything can make bad things happen.
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miklb
sure…
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tanlaan
I'd like to take the route of eating my own dogfood. What language would be best by today's standards? PHP, node.js, Ruby, Django/python?
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GWG
Only install software from trusted sources.
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GWG
tanlaan: That's a controversial question.
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GWG
Use what you are comfortable with
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tanlaan
GWG: very lol
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tanlaan
I'm just thinking of taking this on with the Unix philosophy and making every part very small but functional for what it does to be able to piece it together in the end
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tanlaan
PHP has its roots, node.j has async, Ruby has its magic, and python has its utility
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dougbeal
Is there any reason to allow directory listings of my wordpress site?
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GWG
dougbeal: I'd suggest you don't.
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miklb
what are directory listings?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "directory listings" yet. Would you like to create it?
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[shaners]
I added JSON Feed to the CrimethInc. site today. It took two hours and was pretty easy. Most of the time was spent digging through my own code. The spec is clearly written and stuff.
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[shaners]
I added it for the same reason I have an Atom feed and @adactio has AMP views. Because why not. It’s just another view of the same data. It’s an experiment. And it was quick and easy.
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ben_thatmustbeme
I used to think that, but lately I've just realized it's not really worth my time
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ben_thatmustbeme
And it promotes people just adding yet another serialization format
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Loqi
Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-05-19.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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dougbeal
What is approve webmentions
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "approve webmentions" yet. Would you like to create it?
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dougbeal
What is wordpress
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Loqi
WordPress is open source CMS software used by many on the Indieweb as well as a blog hosting service https://indieweb.org/WordPress
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dougbeal
What is wordpress approve webmentions
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "wordpress approve webmentions" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tanlaan
I've been trying to figure this out by trial and error. On the install of Known, I had to change the permissions for my Uploads folder. I tried all the variations for permissions until I ended up with 777 which doesn't sit right with me. I figured even a 775 would have functioned if it was in the same group as the file itself. Anyone who has used i
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tanlaan
t know what permissions they have set that functions?
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miklb
dougbeal are you looking to unspam webmentions?
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dougbeal
miklb: autoapprove instragram comments via OwnYourGram
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dougbeal
miklb: I haven't enabled Akismet
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miklb
ah, I'm not sure if anyone has solved that. There is a little function you can use to make sure webmentions don't go to spam.
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miklb
https://gist.github.com/miklb/5f06c91eaa494bab663917099ec786e5 I use that and most of my likes/reposts get approved now
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miklb
replies get turned into native WP comments, so that is another ball of wax.
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dougbeal
Oh, they are comming via Bridgy, that makes sense.
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dougbeal
Strange, 22 Bridgy comments are not content_type webmention
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miklb
right, an actual reply vs a like/repost is converted to a base comment type.
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miklb
that was tricky for me in doing facepiles for likes and reposts and then displaying replies separately.
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miklb
without displaying the likes/replies in the comments I should clarify
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dougbeal
is there a facepile plugin?
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dougbeal
What is a facepile
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Loqi
A Facepile is a way of showing interactions for a page/site by using profile pictures https://indieweb.org/facepile
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GWG
There was. It broke.
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miklb
dougbeal if you are feeling adventurous you can dig into my frankenstein comments template and roll your own. It uses semantic linkbacks https://gist.github.com/miklb/4ba5ea34dc7ad8031afea9414d477bce
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miklb
I will have a version of that in the theme I'm working on
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dougbeal
miklb: possibly, not sure what I will focus on next
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[colinwalker]
miklb Ah, so it's that auto-approve snippet that is causing some of my webmentions to loose the comment_type?
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[colinwalker]
Or did I misunderstand that.
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miklb
[colinwalker] no, shouldn't be, that just keeps it from automatically going into spam.
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[colinwalker]
Ah, misunderstood then ?
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miklb
If a webmention is a like/repost or some other type, it keeps the webmention comment type. If it's a reply, then it becomes a native WP comment
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[colinwalker]
It's annoying - stops them appearing on my directory page
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miklb
GWG can better explain the reasoning behind that, but it's basically because WordPress core doesn't fully support comment types.
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miklb
half baked at best is being kind
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[colinwalker]
Is there no way to force it in the database when received?
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dougbeal
is the commentmeta part of core WP?
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miklb
to not strip the webmention type? I would have to look closer at the code
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miklb
[colinwalker] you can do a custom comment query though to do both can't you?
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miklb
dougbeal yes, comment meta is part of core. it's the type part that is half baked
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[colinwalker]
I could but the idea was filtering by webmentions ;) I'll have another look though
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miklb
[colinwalker] I'll have to look at the tables again, but there may still be meta query you can add to keep the webmention replies in the query.
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miklb
Which reminds me, I have notes for a draft post on all of this.
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dougbeal
actually, is 1 just not-spam?
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dougbeal
Oh, 0 pending, 1 approved "spam" spam
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miklb
correct
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dougbeal
miklb: what is your wordpress development workflow? Right now I have setup my child theme as a remote git branch, and push to it
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miklb
dougbeal I have my whole site in a private repo currently.
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miklb
I run nginx/php/mariadb locally so it's close enough to my live site's environment
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miklb
I do have some submodules for plugins so I can test/use master. I should break out my theme as a submodule but I'm lazy
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miklb
actually, wordpress is a git submodule as well.
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miklb
[colinwalker] looking, if you are using semantic linkbacks, I think you could add a commentmeta query to include semantic_linkback_type => reply to include those that aren't a webmention type.
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miklb
worries he's talking too much #dev for the general channel
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dougbeal
What is indieweb-dev
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb-dev" yet. Would you like to create it?
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[colinwalker]
miklb I was trying to remove the reliance but I'll give it a try
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dougbeal
Do you need facebook platform enabled to syndicate posts to facebook?
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miklb
I don't do much w/Facebook, but I do have bridgy configured with FB and have syndicated and gotten linkbacks using bridgy publish
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dougbeal
do you just sign in with another site to add it to brid.gy?
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dougbeal
I guess I haven't configure any syndication urls on my site
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miklb
no, just authorize bridgy for what ever services, and then the bridgy publish plugin has options for which services to include (Twitter, FB, Flickr). you then get checkboxes on the new post screen which ones to send that post to.
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miklb
send to == syndicate to
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dougbeal
I wonder if my facebook profile isn't public enough to show my website link
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miklb
are you not able to authorize bridgy with your FB account?
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miklb
anyway, melatonin kickin' in. night all!
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Zegnat
Good night miklb
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Zegnat
And good morning IndieWeb!
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Loqi
gute nacht!
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dougbeal
o/ miklb
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dougbeal
miklb: I just needed to log in
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dougbeal
miklb: and turn on platform
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pfefferle
good morning
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Loqi
morning!
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[colinwalker]
Morning pfefferle
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dougbeal
morning pfefferle
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[colinwalker]
Does tell work when coming from Slack?
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pfefferle
i think so
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[colinwalker]
Only one way to find out ;)
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[colinwalker]
!tell miklb the semantic_linkbacks_type query worked
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
woot
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[colinwalker]
Anyway, how's it going?
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[colinwalker]
Don't think so - forwarding link so I can see it on a PC (just a little small on mobile lol)
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[colinwalker]
That's a nice concise bit of code
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sebsel
good morning IndieWeb :)
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[jeremycherfas]
Good morning. Updated the laptop and now MAMP is borken. Here's hoping someone in NUE will be able to help.
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aaronpk
in my experience, adding new formats like that is easy to add, but difficult to maintain
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Loqi
[[shaners]] I added JSON Feed to the CrimethInc. site today. It took two hours and was pretty easy. Most of the time was spent digging through my own code. The spec is clearly written and stuff.
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j4y_funabashi
morning all
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aaronpk
good morning!
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Zegnat
re JSON Feed, I wonder how fast they are willing to itterate on the spec. The GitHub issues raise some interested points. https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues
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[colinwalker]
Manton said yesterday they've already merged at least one PR so pretty quickly it seems
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Zegnat
[colinwalker], I see some example fixes being merged in, not a whole lot of things that have an actual effect on the spec.
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Zegnat
Oh, this might be the fix he was referring to: https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/11
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Loqi
[foresmac] #11 Require RFC 3339 datetimes
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[colinwalker]
It's a start ;)
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voxpelli
the WebSub spec would need to be updated for JSON Feed to currently work with it as well – or JSON Feed to change so that WebSub doesn't require any changes
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aaronpk
wait what? websub doesn't care about the payload of the notification
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cweiske
hub detection will fail
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cweiske
if the hub is announced in the contents only
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voxpelli
aaronpk: yes, but the JSON Feed spec has added a "hubs" key that it believes should be used to advertise WebSub hubs
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cweiske
not in the http link header
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aaronpk
voxpelli: oh i missed that
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aaronpk
lol "hubs (very optional)"
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voxpelli
me and Julien tweeted with manton about that yesterday and Julien pointed him to the WebSub repo and asked for an issue
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aaronpk
that's going to be a tricky one. at least with HTML and XML there is a generic way to link to rels
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aaronpk
but with JSON there isn't really a "generic" way to do it that doesn't potentially conflict with data in the JSON file
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voxpelli
yeah, the only generic way for JSON is with link headers
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voxpelli
I do think that something like JSON Feeds should have a generic link-property on both feed and item level though, to enable extensions like WebMention, payment etc to be easily and independently injected in there
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voxpelli
cweiske: um, a quick read there gives me the impression that JSON API only allows a single link per relation type – can that really be right?
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aaronpk
"the allowed values of additional members will be expanded (e.g. a collection link may support an array of values, whereas a self link does not)."
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aaronpk
does not seem very thoroughly specified
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aaronpk
also they don't really say that the key names are rels
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aaronpk
they don't actually say what to use for the key names
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voxpelli
cweiske: aaronpk: I added an issue regarding link relations: https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/44
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Loqi
[voxpelli] #44 Support link relations
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aaronpk
awesome
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miklb
pfefferle those functions in semantic linkback are great, I use them for my facepiles, but colinwalker was trying to get replies that came in as webmentions but loose the the type as they are now standard comments along with other webmentions
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Loqi
miklb: [colinwalker] left you a message 3 hours, 23 minutes ago: the semantic_linkbacks_type query worked
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miklb
that reads as confusing as it sounds
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pfefferle
miklb understood :)
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GWG
Good morning, all
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sknebel
good morning GWG!
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GWG
Everyone excited about a second weekend of Indiewebcamp?
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cweiske
which hotel are you staying in Nürnberg?
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[colinwalker]
Just had a thought (I know, careful) - as webmention replies have comment_type removed can't we just use semantic_linkbacks_type to check if a reply and then rewrite the value to the table?
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[colinwalker]
On a mission...
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ben_thatmustbeme
moving here from off topic
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ben_thatmustbeme
going to look in to how different jsonfeed is from jf2
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ben_thatmustbeme
i dislike 'version' strings, but i guess you sort of need that once you make it vocabulary aware
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[kevinmarks]
i end up with doubled summary/content as RSS description is ambiguos
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[kevinmarks]
we have chlidren vs items
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ben_thatmustbeme
'name' vs 'title'
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ben_thatmustbeme
'home_page_url' seems sort of silly on a feed, what does that even mean?
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ben_thatmustbeme
feed_url i could understand, or home_page_url under the author, sure
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ben_thatmustbeme
oh, i see, it has a self reference to the feed_url being the json version... don't love the naming of that
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[kevinmarks]
it's like rel=self in atom
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[kevinmarks]
they have semirandomly picked terms from RSS and Atom
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[kevinmarks]
seem like graphQL in front of an mf2 parser would be a way to do this
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Zegnat
ben_thatmustbeme, your URL field thoughts sound a lot like: https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/38
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Loqi
[jbafford] #38 Split home_page_url into two separate fields
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ben_thatmustbeme
sigh, its a little disturbing to see people worried about backcompat for a spec so early in its infancy. But thats what happens when you publish something and give it a version and make it look like you are expecting it to be implemented before anyone outside of the editors have had a chance to review it
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Zegnat
Well, they had some invited reviewers, those are thanked in the spec.
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ben_thatmustbeme
not the same as public review
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Zegnat
Definitely
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[kevinmarks]
It might be quicker to make a jsonfeed to h-feed page on unmung than to explain it
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ben_thatmustbeme
i suppose the idea case is to have a simple, straight forward translation from mf2 - > jf2/jsonfeed (in some unified way) and back to mf2
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[manton]
voxpelli and aaronpk: The way I read Julien's comments was that WebSub's Discovery section in particular might need to be updated. Not sure if there was something else... But I think the "Publishers _must_ implement" could be relaxed a little to "_should_ implement", giving room for something like JSON Feed's "hubs" (or the proposed "links"). I plan to write up an issue for this.
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aaronpk
it would be nice for WebSub to specify a way to do rel discovery for JSON documents for this purpose
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[kevinmarks]
or you could add a rels to jsonfeed like we use in mf2
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aaronpk
I don't like the idea of adding hub-specific properties to JSONFeed, or adding JSONFeed-specific discovery to WebSub
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[manton]
kevinmarks I don't think that would technically matter. If you strictly follow what WebSub says, it leaves no room for specifying a hub except in XML or HTTP headers.
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aaronpk
note that for HTTP, HTML and XML, WebSub doesn't define its own linking format, it uses the previously existing link rel mechanisms
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aaronpk
so I would want to do the same for JSON
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[kevinmarks]
which is what mf2 rels is
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[manton]
aaronpk I totally get that. My first thought was "links" as well. But my view is that WebSub is critical to improving feed readers, and so kind of promoting it to a core part of the spec will give it more attention.
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voxpelli
A link relation based approach with stick closely to existing discovery mechanisms
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aaronpk
[manton]: my only problem with "links" is that it's almost too generic of a term. that's why "rels" is nice because it's specifically just the links with a rel attribute. otherwise it could be misinterpreted that you're supposed to put *all* links in that array
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voxpelli
aaronpk: add that to my JSON feed issue?
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ben_thatmustbeme
'links' is quite generic
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aaronpk
but ultimately that's bikeshedding the property name. the point is that in any case it shouldn't be a "hub" property
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Zegnat
With “links” I guess it would follow JSONAPI though, so not inventing anything new? http://jsonapi.org/format/#document-links
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aaronpk
i suspect microformats2 has been using "rels" longer than jsonapi.org
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ben_thatmustbeme
also aligns better with html as rels are more that just <link> tags
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ben_thatmustbeme
unless that section is specific to only things from link tags
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aaronpk
in mf2 it's all rel= values
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ben_thatmustbeme
[manton]: i'm hoping we can find a way to make jf2 = jsonfeed
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voxpelli
The lack of rel-self is also a problem for current "hubs", WebSub requires it still, no?
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[manton]
It's really a trade-off with how generic something should be. There are many fields that could be abstracted to more of a type/value format, to be more flexible, but then you make the document more verbose. I don't think it's always clear. (I'm sure many folks would want next_url to be moved to links/rels too.)
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ben_thatmustbeme
as i realized doing so while keeping mf2 parsing in mind would mean there would be a simple way to go mf2 -> jsonfeed/mf2 in an automated way
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[manton]
voxpelli: I think feed_url serves the same purpose.
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ben_thatmustbeme
and thus a json.feed url could actually be a processor
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voxpelli
[manton]: to the credit of jf2 style is that it enables a parser/consumer to not just consume feeds, but user profiles, comments, events and more
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voxpelli
[manton]: and one thing that the post-blog social web has that the blogs didn't is that it has lots more types of data, not everything is articles anymore
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ben_thatmustbeme
voxpelli: jf2 also isn't currently vocabulary aware
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk has brought this up as a limitation
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ben_thatmustbeme
or rather makes it not as useful for his implementation
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voxpelli
ben_thatmustbeme: is it just h-entry?
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ben_thatmustbeme
no, its more of how to format certain things, its the issue of this value is always a single item or not
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ben_thatmustbeme
jf2 says any item could be a single value, array, or object
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[manton]
voxpelli: Yep, good point. JSON Feed is very focused on blog-like posts.
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voxpelli
Right, but it can express events, profiles etc so it makes it easy to build a full Facebook on top of the format rather than be limited to just a Twitter/blog style feed of simple notes
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[kevinmarks]
that was a bit what I was getting at with GraphQL - that says you can always get a list or single param
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ben_thatmustbeme
it would likely be a profile of jf2
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ben_thatmustbeme
which is when you start needing versioning
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[kevinmarks]
ie collapses empty list to not there and single entry list to just property
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[cleverdevil]
I mocked out JSONFeed on my site last night and struggled a little bit with mapping different types of posts. I ended up adding in an extension to each item that contains some extra metadata. https://cleverdevil.io/?_t=json
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aaronpk
ah yeah, likes, reposts and bookmarks
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[cleverdevil]
Checkins are captured as well.
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Zegnat
[cleverdevil], you have HTML in the content_text property, it looks like
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[cleverdevil]
Yeah I'm still working on it ?
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[cleverdevil]
Known is a little weird with how it stores content and I'm still learning how to properly pull it out.
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[cleverdevil]
For some types of content I think I've got it right, for others not yet.
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Zegnat
Nice! Just thought I would mention it incase you hadn’t seen it yet :)
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ben_thatmustbeme
the biggest difficulty jsonfeed will hit is that its going to be an uphill battle fighting existing standards that are quite well established
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ben_thatmustbeme
may not like working with xml, but you would still have to support reading all those formats anyway
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ben_thatmustbeme
whereas some mf2 -> jf2 just about every independant social web project has now
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ben_thatmustbeme
has mf2 that is
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ben_thatmustbeme
diaspora is the one missing one from the set there though, need someone to make a PR for it
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Improving the webmentions directory" by Colin Walker on 2017-05-19 https://colinwalker.blog/2017/05/19/improving-the-webmentions-directory/
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Zegnat
Something is wrong with that picture ^^^ I have met both aaronpk and sebsel, and they are definitely not equally tall ;)
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[cleverdevil]
Fixed that content_text vs content_html issue Zengat, thanks for the reminder!
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aaronpk
Zegnat: lol! i'm standing on the top step and sebsel is on the next step down!
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[cleverdevil]
manton when you get a chance, take a look at my JSONFeed – https://cleverdevil.io/content/all/?_t=json – it may be worth considering defining reposts, likes, checkins, etc., in more detail in the spec.
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sebsel
haha, I'm still taller 0:)
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[cleverdevil]
I'm currently creating an `_indieweb` extension.
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Loqi
hehe
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme KevinMarks_: re https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-05-19#t1495204237542000 etc, feel free to weigh in on https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/107 , happy add jsonfeed support to granary (e.g. to/from mf2) if there's enough interest
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Loqi
[[kevinmarks]] It might be quicker to make a jsonfeed to h-feed page on unmung than to explain it
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] I'm Still Here!
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aaronpk
i'm ridiculously happy about this
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dougbeal|iOS
I have a post from instagram via OYG and syndicated to Facebook. Facebook likes find the post fine, but the instagram ones say no webmention targets (via bridgy https://brid.gy/instagram/murderofcro.ws#)
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Loqi
murderofcro.ws
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[cleverdevil]
That's awesome aaronpk!
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Loqi
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snarfed
aaronpk++
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Loqi
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Zegnat
aaronpk++ for showing off one of the few practical checkin implementations!
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Loqi
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dougbeal|iOS
On the other hand, the Facebook like was auto-approved https://github.com/dougbeal/wordpress-sembpress-child/blob/master/functions.php
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dougbeal|iOS
snarfed: what did you use to check? The other OYG posts just worked.
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snarfed
i just looked at that post's html. it has just one u-syndication link, to flickr
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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed: i'd wait until at least the next revision before implementing it based on the number of issues opened on github
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dougbeal|iOS
Oh, none to Facebook?
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ben_thatmustbeme
regarding jsonfeed that is
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dougbeal|iOS
Is it bad if I edit the post and add syndication checkboxes?
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dougbeal|iOS
That lost the original source?
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: sure
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snarfed
dougbeal: editing to add synd links is fine
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[manton]
aaronpk The blue dot is great. Nicely done!
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[cleverdevil]
I'm jealous of the blue dot.
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[cleverdevil]
That said, I am not even sure where I could begin to bring this feature to my site.
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aaronpk
Thanks manton!
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aaronpk
hehe yeah there are some extra pieces required if you are doing it from scratch. I have the advantage of already having continuous gps location on my server
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[cleverdevil]
You use iOS, right?
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[cleverdevil]
What's your solution for continuous location tracking on iOS?
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aaronpk
An app I wrote :-P
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[cleverdevil]
Makes sense ?
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[cleverdevil]
I want an app for iOS that sends location, health, and activity data via webhooks.
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snarfed
hey [manton] btw, minor heads up, looks like http://help.micro.blog/rss.xml isn't working
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ben_thatmustbeme
dogfooding++
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Loqi
dogfooding has 3 karma
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snarfed
if only my reader supported it :P
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snarfed
(http://help.micro.blog/ has a rel-alternate link to rss.xml but not feed.json)
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tantek
rel-alternate all the feed files!
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[manton]
snarfed Whoops, thanks! I'll get those fixed.
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dougbeal
Does wordpress keep changelogs of posts? I'm not sure how the syndication link was changed to only flickr
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dougbeal
Oh, the source is getting overwritten by new destinations
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voxpelli
Did anyone start at a jf2 comparison issue for the JSON Feed repo?
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dougbeal
Would that be micropub or bridy or syndication links?
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ben_thatmustbeme
[manton]++ for self-dogfooding jsonfeed
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Loqi
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ben_thatmustbeme
voxpelli: not yet
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ben_thatmustbeme
or not that i know of
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ben_thatmustbeme
i feel like it should be doable though
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voxpelli
ben_thatmustbeme: would be nice to link to when comparisons like https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/49 arise :)
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Loqi
[darobin] #49 Thought experiment: using schema.org + JSON-LD instead
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ben_thatmustbeme
voxpelli: feel free to start one
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voxpelli
ben_thatmustbeme: I don't feel like I'm up to date enough on jf2 :/
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ben_thatmustbeme
fine to start an issue though, i'm just juggling 20 things at once right now
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dougbeal
Are there indiemark badges?
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tantek
dougbeal contributions welcome :)
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[manton]
voxpelli No comparison yet, but I mentioned JF2 in: https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/42
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Loqi
[dret] #42 Related specs and comparisons
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voxpelli
[manton]: great! :)
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dougbeal
tantek: I will add it the queue ;)
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@lynncyrin
there any @indiewebcamp people here at this #pycon with a burning desire to talk to a Mastodon admin?
(twtr.io/1RtpJscwPPk)
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Loqi
Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-05-19.html
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ben_thatmustbeme
wonders if he should find a place to mention the ruby parser updates in it
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ben_thatmustbeme
and command line script
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ben_thatmustbeme
waves to benwerd
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Zegnat
Doesn’t https://news.indieweb.org/ get put in the newsletter? Just put it on your own blog and submit it to there, ben_thatmustbeme?
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ben_thatmustbeme
i need to do a blog post about it
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ben_thatmustbeme
i have left my personal blog somewhat a mess as I have been working to figure out all of the indieauth stuff again for my rewrite to laravel
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ben_thatmustbeme
anyway, need to catch the train
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Zegnat
Another option is to just add a GitHub project link to news, like here: https://news.indieweb.org/en/github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-indienews
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Loqi
[boffosocko.com] WordPress IndieNews
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@benwerd
I'm going to the #IndieWeb Summit in Portland next month. If you care about an independent web, you should too. https://2017.indieweb.org/
(twtr.io/1Ru3HfWGtu9)
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "I'm going to the #IndieWeb Summit in Portland next month. If you care about an independent web, you should too. http://2017.indieweb.org" by Ben Werdmüller on 2017-05-19 http://werd.io/2017/im-going-to-the-indieweb-summit-in-portland-next-month
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Loqi
Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-05-19.html
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tantek
and now I have a use-case for "co-organizing" - IWS!
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tantek
(as an RSVP)
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tantek
and let's see if the IWS event de-dupes RSVPs from the same person >:D
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tantek
looks like we're over 50% booked for IWS!
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[cleverdevil]
That's awesome ?
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GWG
I am close to making arrangements
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tantek
I should do that today
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Loqi
agreed.
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tantek
I'm posting another RSVP, to exercise another special-case RSVP use-case that I have, to RSVP to the secondary copies, and to see how RSVP de-duping is handled :D
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tantek
has anyone already booked their hotel(s) for IWS?
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GWG
Recommendations appreciated
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tantek
pretty sure we can copy recommendations from the previous year
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@ScalaWilliam
#Indieweb: https://indieweb.org/Why_web_sign-in I'm sold. I just added rel="me" to a few links on my website and it just (https://indieauth.com) works
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tantek
awesome!
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@t
co-organizing IndieWeb Summit 2017-06-24…25 @MozPDX! Welcome @benwerd; <25 spots left! RSVP: https://2017.indieweb.org/ (ttk.me t4oR1)
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "co-organizing IndieWeb Summit 2017-06-24…25 @MozPDX! Welcome @benwerd; " on 2017-05-19 http://tantek.com/2017/139/t1/organizing-indieweb-summit
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tantek
a-ha that time Twitter won the race
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tantek
aaronpk - I've managed to indie RSVP *TWICE* to 2017.indieweb.org ;)
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aaronpk
Oh boy
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tantek
well to be fair, you did it first ;)
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[cleverdevil]
So have you, haha.
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Loqi
rofl
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aaronpk
My second one was via bridgy lol
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tantek
in that case I should get a third lol
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aaronpk
Well it is past my bedtime so good night!
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tantek
good night aaronpk!
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Loqi
laila tov!
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aaronpk
Looking forward to indiewebcamp Nürnberg in just under 9 hours!
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tantek
would anyone be interested in yoga sessions before the start of IndieWeb Summit (either or both days)?
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tantek
sharing this here from chat channel because I think the person that said it would be ok with me doing so (i.e. not written by me) -----> "A hands-on conference focused on making your own website and connecting it to social media - so you don't have to store everything you make on Facebook"
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tantek
^^^ summary for IndieWebCamp / IndieWeb Summit
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tantek
thoughts? iterations? how / should we add to indieweb.org/2017 and/or 2017.indieweb.org and/or POSSE copies?
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