#indieweb 2017-05-31

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eli_oat sorry about that!
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eli_oat forgot that leading slash :|
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eli_oat how's everyone today?
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miklb fair to midland
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eli_oat word — I guess I'm fair to sea-side
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gRegorLove fair to west coast best coast
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miklb is on the west coast of the east coast
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[kevinmarks] I went to a place like that last week
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[kevinmarks] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Gare
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Loqi South Gare
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jjuran ben_thatmustbeme: I'm still crushed that Ward's Wiki went JS;DR.
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bignose aw crap. “This site requires JavaScript and Cookies to be enabled. Please change your browser settings or upgrade your browser.” <URL: http://wiki.c2.org/>
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bignose say it ain't true
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bignose hah
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jjuran schmarty: I'm not going to make it to HWC this week. :-/ I need to get my OSB talk finished.
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bignose my fault, ‘c2.org’ is not the right domain.
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bignose jjuran: when I visit <URL: http://wiki.c2.com/> with JavaScript disabled, it displays fine. Links work as expected. What's “DR” about it?
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jjuran bignose: http://wiki.c2.com/?ExtremeProgrammingRoadmap
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bignose “adding JavaScript to a site does not make it “JS;DR” unless the site *doesn't work* without that.)
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bignose jjuran: you're right, I must have added an exception for ‘c2.com’. :-(
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tantek dang all I see at wiki.c2.com is http://wiki.c2.com/spin.gif
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tantek hope archive.org got all of c2 before he js;dr'd it
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GWG Evening
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tantek evening GWG
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GWG tantek: always a pleasure
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tantek same!
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GWG What have you been up to?
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snarfed tantek: evidently https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling#remodeling
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Loqi [WardCunningham] remodeling: The original wiki rewritten as a single page application
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tantek snarfed, and http://c2.com/wiki/closed.html
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snarfed site is working fine with js on
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snarfed (just fyi)
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GWG Hello, snarfed
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snarfed hi!
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GWG I'm disappointed. I'm abandoning my original Semantic Linkbacks approach and backtracking due issues.
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snarfed :(
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat What time is it for dougbeal?
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Loqi In dougbeal's timezone, US/Pacific, it is currently 11:43pm on May 30
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Zegnat That’s going to be an early HWC, dougbeal|imac :)
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[colinwalker] Morning all
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petermolnar morning
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Loqi *yawn*
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jjuran what is covfefe
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "covfefe" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat Honestly, I read that as coffee first
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Zegnat What is coffee?
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Loqi coffee is an optional fuel to power indiewebcamp events https://indieweb.org/coffee
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Zegnat What is tea?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "tea" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat tea is a viable alternative to [[coffee]]
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Loqi ok
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@paulrobertlloyd Really impressed by @barryf’s IndieWeb-tastic website. I especially like how content is backed up to GitHub: https://barryfrost.com/2016/11/colophon ? (twitter.com/_/status/869856739843297280)
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calumryan what is covfefe
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "covfefe" yet. Would you like to create it?_
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calumryan covfefe was a mistype by POTUS45 posted on the popular content hosting silo [[twitter]]. It's one example of the platform's constraints: being that it doesn't allow users to [[edit]] a post once published.
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Loqi ok
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Zegnat Foursquare + Reddit, wonder if this will lead to anything interesting. https://medium.com/foursquare-direct/foursquare-reddit-61e2c11c1838
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jeremycherfas Morning Indieweb
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petermolnar morning
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jeremycherfas How did the tag fetching go?
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, Grav webmention plugin is officially updated with the fix: https://github.com/Perlkonig/grav-plugin-webmention/releases/tag/v1.1.0
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cweiske schmarty, I saw you did not get the tt-rss-micropub plugin to work?
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jeremycherfas I know! Very cool.
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cweiske schmarty, it currently does not work in combined feed display mode - only if you have a separate pane for article content
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skippy aloha, #indieweb.
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schmarty cweiske: ah, thanks! that solves it.
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schmarty jjuran: we'll miss you at HWC Baltimore! Want to remote in for part of it?
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sknebel good morning!
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jeremycherfas Morning @sknebel
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@derhess Don't forget! Today 19:00: 8th Homebrew Website Club #Berlin, at Starbucks Sony Center (Potsdamer Platz) #indieweb https://sebastiangreger.net/2017/05/homebrew-website-club-berlin-2017-05-31/ (twitter.com/_/status/869898385943384064)
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skippy is anyone successfully using PlanetPlanet or similar as a feed reader?
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sknebel totally wouldn't work for me, at least not for a lot of my feedreader usage. I guess it could work as a "twitter replacement" subscribing to microblogs, where I care less about missing stuff
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ben_thatmustbeme jjuran, bignose, can always file bug reports https://github.com/WardCunningham/remodeling/issues
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ben_thatmustbeme may do no good, but at least they get that people don't like it
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jjuran schmarty: Yeah, I might do that. Please send me details.
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning #indieweb
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ben_thatmustbeme wow https://twitter.com/SulfoDK/status/869899074509656064
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@SulfoDK @githubstatus Not seen this one before! #github https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBKAb0UXUAAr0jG.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/869899074509656064)
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ben_thatmustbeme a github 500 error
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sknebel yes. even with 3d parallax effect on the header image ...
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sknebel (if you move the mouse over it)
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skippy sknebel: i find i dont much care about "liking" or saving items from my feed. I just want a river of news.
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sknebel skippy: for me it's mostly that a lot of feeds I read have one high-quality article every few weeks. I want to read that some time, when I have time and mental space for it. so that stuff has to wait around for me to get to it
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sknebel if that's not your use case, a planet-like thing might be an option
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eightfold aaronpk: hi there! i have a couple of years of gpx logs i want to create a heatmap of. i found https://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/6958109913/ and there you mention “a custom script that projects the GPS logs onto a 2D image plane”. does this script happen to be available? i’m looking for a solution that doesn’t involve me uploading my every move the last few years to an unknown entity.
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Zegnat What time is it for aaronpk?
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Loqi In aaronpk's timezone, US/Pacific, it is currently 6:53am on May 31
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Zegnat eightfold he might not be up yet ^^^
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eightfold Zegnat: ah, of course. sweden here :) i can wait/idle.
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schmarty jjuran: ok! i'll make an appear.in or similar and drop a link here.
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Zegnat eightfold, if you are interested in general IndieWeb stuff, there is a Homebrew Website Club going on tonight. The local Gothenburg one is cancelled in favour of an online one, so 2 others from Sweden (that includes me) will be there: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-31-homebrew-website-club#European_time_.28new.21.29
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eightfold Zegnat: sounds awesome! would have loved participating, but i’ll most likely be AFK until 19:30 today. :(
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Zegnat Ah, that’s too bad. You can always check if people are still there when you get back but usual wrapup would be around 19:30
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jjuran schmarty: thanks
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dgold skippy: have you looked at Dave Winer's River5?
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skippy dgold: no. will look now.
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skippy interesting. i'm not super keen on a node app to fetch feeds, but i'll give this a deeper look. thanks!
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@schmarty Happy to roll out JSON Feed on the Adafruit Blog. Looking forward to more #IndieWeb-friendly features at @adafruit! https://blog.adafruit.com/2017/05/30/adafruit-blog-now-syndicating-json-feed/ (twitter.com/_/status/869933477575233537)
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Jeena oh shit, today is https://jeena.net/events/25
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Loqi Jeena: Zegnat left you a message 3 days, 5 hours ago: you have time, can you check why http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/yes-all-being-well-i-will-connect wasn’t picked up by your site?
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Loqi Virtual Homebrew Website Club https://jeena.net/system/events/header_images/000/000/025/big/indiewebcamp-logo-lockup-color_3x.png?1495546707
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Zegnat Haha, yes, Jeena
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Loqi nice
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Zegnat In 20 minutes, actually, which is something I totally forgot…
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jeremycherfas Plenty of time to get set up, no?
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Zegnat Should be. I just need to grab a browser that support WebRTC
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Jeena I will need to join from the train then until I get home
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petermolnar JSON feed....sigh... format wars again. just use mf2.
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petermolnar also doesn't make sense at all: converting atom/rss to json is not that hard.
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Zegnat Indeed, petermolnar. IBM even has a standard for it already
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petermolnar ...
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petermolnar IBM, the company that used to make good hardware but now selling "AI" solution for huge companies with a lot of money
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ben_thatmustbeme http://dissolve.github.io/jf2/#profiles
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Looking foward to the day the #indieweb community doesn&#8217;t rehash the argument of JSON feed vs mf2. To each their own for an independent web." by Michael Bishop on 2017-05-31 https://miklb.com/1867-2/
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@miklb Looking foward to the day the #indieweb community doesn’t rehash the argument of JSON feed vs mf2. To each their own for an independent web. (twitter.com/_/status/869935748539088896)
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petermolnar although Watson is not that bad
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ben_thatmustbeme trying to codify a mf2 -> json version that is similar
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ben_thatmustbeme so no need to figure write anything other than a parser
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ben_thatmustbeme well translator from the parser
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[cleverdevil] Good morning IndieWeb ?
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning [cleverdevil]
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dgold interestingly enough (or not, depending on your PoV) Dave Winer wrote the other day about a json-ified RSS
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dgold http://tinyurl.com/yagzewv6 [ http://scripting.com/2017/05/30.html#a110554 ]
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dgold http://scripting.com/rss.json -- his 'finished article'
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ben_thatmustbeme oy
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aaronpk oh my gosh are we starting the JSON wars now?
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ben_thatmustbeme possibly
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aaronpk that would be very bad
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah
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Zegnat And Jeena and I are starting our Virtual HWC. If anyone wants to join, you are welcome!
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jeremycherfas Just getting some tea.
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aaronpk last time this happened it basically derailed all progress on an independent web and that allowed facebook and twitter to happen
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aaronpk so... let's not do that again k?
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Jeena Ok, me and Zegnat are in the video chat already
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jeremycherfas What’s the room name?
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Jeena https://talky.io/hwc
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[cleverdevil] ?
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[cleverdevil] That's why I'm just trying to work *with* the JSON Feed folks.
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[cleverdevil] Frankly, its getting publicity and is being implemented by readers and websites.
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[cleverdevil] Might as well try and encourage it in positive directions.
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dgold i found it incredibly simple to implement.
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dgold really, I'm not exactly a programmer, and making it work in golang was simples
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[cleverdevil] Indeed.
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ben_thatmustbeme thats why i was trying to work to merge JSON Feed in to jf2
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ben_thatmustbeme merge the two
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ben_thatmustbeme the differences are pretty minor now
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[cleverdevil] ?
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dgold what is jf
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "jf" yet. Would you like to create it?
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dgold what is jf2
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Loqi jf2 is a working prototype of a simpler JSON serialization of microformats2 https://indieweb.org/jf2
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Zegnat dgold: that is a big part of the point they are making, let people just use default JSON serialisation tools of their preferred language and gone are the mistakes
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[cleverdevil] Which is a mostly reasonable assertion.
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[cleverdevil] Until people implement it using templates ?
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lukasros Good evening everyone!
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aaronpk there are mistakes you can still make even if the JSON is correct though, which is also what happened with Atom/RSS
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[cleverdevil] Definitely.
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[cleverdevil] Its not a panacea, by any means.
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[cleverdevil] It *is* a hell of a lot simpler than RSS/Atom.
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schmarty oh boy. sorry to kick this discussion off again, haha.
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Loqi schmarty: lol
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schmarty we like to try out new things at Adafruit and, if they don't work out, no big deal.
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schmarty turning on JSON Feed for our blog was next to zero effort, seeing where it goes will be interesting.
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schmarty i am planning on getting mf2 support in there soon, which i am more excited about. :}
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aaronpk i will also point out that JSONFeed is still written with primarily blog posts in mind, which is a much easier problem than what h-entry is doing with all our various post types
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[cleverdevil] True.
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[cleverdevil] I've got an open discussion on their Github re: this point, and ben_thatmustbeme has been providing good input there.
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ben_thatmustbeme oh cool, schmarty, you are at adafruit?
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schmarty ben_thatmustbeme: sort of! i am on the web team but i am remote. i maintain the forums and blog and help w/ dev infrastructure stuff.
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ben_thatmustbeme schmarty++ just because.. Adafruit
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Loqi schmarty has 10 karma in this channel (14 overall)
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sknebel And not everybody has complex post types on a way that looks nice in dumb converters (e.g. I have a feed in my feed reader through one of the converter services where each post body just says "Portland, Oregon" :P (but titles survive at least)
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schmarty haha, i feel very lucky and privileged to work with such awesome people.
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, another reason to keep jf2 super close to json feed, deployments will need to make very few changes
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[cleverdevil] Is your aim to make it fully compatible, ben_thatmustbeme?
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[cleverdevil] So that JSON Feed consumers will be able to read jf2 feeds and just ignore bits that they don't understand?
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dgold where is this discussion, cleverdevil ?
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[cleverdevil] dgold https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/51
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Loqi [cleverdevil] #51 Representing alternate post types
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ben_thatmustbeme [cleverdevil]: no, that would involve entirely breaking or changing Jf2
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ben_thatmustbeme the point is to keep it on the same vocab as mf2
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ben_thatmustbeme which mean jsonfeed would have to change to unify
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[cleverdevil] Worth a try.
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aaronpk i strongly suspect jsonfeed works fine for blog posts and just won't end up evolving to other post types
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aaronpk well, beyond podcasts anyway
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[cleverdevil] That said, I fear that is unlikely.
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[cleverdevil] You may be right, aaronpk./
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[cleverdevil] I'm still gonna try ?
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jeremycherfas Aaronpk: Is there a readme for running micropub rocks locally?
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[cleverdevil] Sort of feels like JSON Feed has the right... people? publicity? marketing? push?... behind it to gain traction.
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[cleverdevil] So, I'd like to try *now* to see if alternate post type representation can make it in with an extension.
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aaronpk [cleverdevil]: that's true, it's certainly worth a shot
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aaronpk jeremycherfas: sorry, that part is kind of under documented right now
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dgold it has people in the iOS/Apple devspace
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[cleverdevil] Pragmatically speaking, the indieweb benefits from the proliferation of a feed format that enables representing a variety of post types.
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jeremycherfas Mkay.
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[cleverdevil] I don't care what it is.
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dgold those people do lots of podcasts that other devs listen to <shrug>
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[cleverdevil] But, I don't want a format to catch wildfire that has *zero* support.
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Zegnat aaronpk, turns out I was a bit overly positive when I said you could run the test suite yourself if you wanted to test stuff that are still only local on your computer ;)
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aaronpk i *should* make it easier to run locally
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aaronpk there's a few moving parts tho, so it's unfortunately not trivial
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sknebel Offer a vagrant box? I'm generally not a fan, but this is what they are made for
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sknebel jeremycherfas: you tried ngrok already, but had issues with it, right?
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jeremycherfas I did. Mostly because I was not sure how to make the rel=“ links show the ngrok URL instead of the Localhost
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jeremycherfas I think there’s an option to map that, but I couldn’t find it.
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jeremycherfas Or rather make it operate.
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Jeena I think I will rejoin when I'm at home, will be in about 10-15 minutes
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Jeena carry on without me for now
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sknebel Him, how do you set the URL on your live site?
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Zegnat Is fine Jeena
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jeremycherfas Sknebel: I think it is a variable in the config. But not certain.
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jeremycherfas I’ll look.
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sknebel Just curious why localhost would be different than that
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jeremycherfas ? Because it is the base for the site?
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sknebel Sorry, bad wording. Why the same way to set it on the live site wouldn't work locally
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jeremycherfas sknebel: the honest truth is that I cannot find how Known gets a base url. Locally the string ‘localhost’ appears in about 40 files. Some I know are not relevant, but some of the others may be.
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jeremycherfas Maybe from the database ini
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Zegnat petermolnar, were you going to join the call?
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sebsel For those who want to join: https://talky.io/hwc :)
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Zegnat We talked through the quiet writing hour, and will now continue talking over at https://talky.io/hwc - for anyone who wants to join
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ben_thatmustbeme [cleverdevil]: just thinking back about that question, i think getting it close enough will cover most instances where consuming code can say, oh, its jsonfeed, all i have to do is move these fields around and then its good
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ben_thatmustbeme ... i think that will be good enough for most
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[cleverdevil] Maybe.
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[cleverdevil] Honestly, I think that latching onto the early popularity and steering it in a compatible, but improved direction is the best path, but I certainly don't want to tell you what to do with JF2 ?
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ben_thatmustbeme [cleverdevil]: feedback is always welcome
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ben_thatmustbeme i plan to write up how to programattically convert any jsonfeed to jf2
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ben_thatmustbeme considered that as part of the spec, but i really don't want to have to do that for all the json formats people have come up with
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[cleverdevil] That's another great way to go about it.
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, totally fair.
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[cleverdevil] The thing is, if JSON Feed really, really catches on strong, then I think its worth bundling in the spec.
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ben_thatmustbeme true
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ben_thatmustbeme other side is I also need to write up sample of how to convert mf2 to jf2 feed, which is pretty simple as well
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[cleverdevil] I started working on moving the Known implementation to match my latest updates in the github ticket last night.
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[cleverdevil] Should have a working pull request maybe tomorrow.
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ben_thatmustbeme then it can be a hosted service and anyone who had mf2 can just include a <link> tag to give them a valid jf2feed
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ben_thatmustbeme i think the last piece is deciding on https://github.com/dissolve/jf2/issues/13
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Loqi [tantek] #13 consider adopting XRay format for HTML valued properties like 'content'
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ben_thatmustbeme it would match jsonfeed better, and i don't see much reason for the full content-type really
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petermolnar Zegnat I will, I'm running late with stuff, sorry
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dougbeal|iOS Talky iOS crashed
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Zegnat dougbeal|iOS, you must have been the anonymous I saw joining for a split second.
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Zegnat Annoying when software fails
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petermolnar dougbeal|iOS try it in the browser instead, maybe that works
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[barryf] HWC London has begun. Here with calumryan and Justin (who's just setting up his rel=me).
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dougbeal|iOS Demands a real browser ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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jeremycherfas Bummer
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ben_thatmustbeme [cleverdevil]: what is hubs: supposed to be useful for in jsonfeed?
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ben_thatmustbeme the websub one is not at all needed
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ben_thatmustbeme i guess it could be useful for webmention
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[cleverdevil] https://jsonfeed.org/version/1 has an entry on it for "Subscribing to Real-time Notifications"
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[barryf] Hey, welcome javery
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[javery] hullo!
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calumryan Welcome javery!
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, its completely outside of the spec
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ben_thatmustbeme for websub
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[kevinmarks] I have most of a mf2 to jf2 converter, I just need to make it parse html directly
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[kevinmarks] Though if we want to allow websub we may need to add rels back in.
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Zegnat Just ended Virtual HWC EU time, I might post some notes on the wiki soon. Have some screenshots, nothing posed, will see if they are post-worthy.
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Jeena wow, this went really good, especially because people kind of were at the same level and had some background.
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jeremycherfas I cannot thank all of you enough.
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Jeena I updated also with a nice screenshot https://jeena.net/events/25
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Loqi Virtual Homebrew Website Club https://jeena.net/system/events/header_images/000/000/025/big/hwc2.png?1496252065
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sebsel yeah, it's hard to split a virtual HWC in groups, but it worked without splitting :)
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[kevinmarks] Oops, I forget.
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jeremycherfas Excellent
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Jeena true sebsel
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Zegnat It was a little sad that there were some technical difficulties between Lukas and me especially
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Zegnat Now to see where I will waste the rest of my IndieWeb evening on: Grav, Known, or maybe my own webmention endpoint
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Jeena What is Grav?
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Loqi Grav is a flat-file CMS built on PHP, with Twig templating, and YAML + Markdown for storing articles (YAML for metadata, Markdown for the content) https://indieweb.org/Grav
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jeremycherfas Zegnat: Do your own thing, please
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Jeena I never got the databaseless website thingy but for each their own!
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Zegnat I also find it limiting. I have a SQLite db I use for indexing my flatfile storage.
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Zegnat I think Grav builds an object of *every* page on every load, and then just uses heavy caching to get around performance issues
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Zegnat I’ll go have dinner first, so don’t worry about me working for you only, jeremycherfas ;)
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gRegorLove Howdy, indieweb
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@brianjesse my first blog post for http://AltPlatform.org - it's about @microdotblog, @1999io and @MastodonSociaI - http://altplatform.org/2017/05/31/new-open-web-social-networking-tools/ #indieweb ? (twitter.com/_/status/869979716953948161)
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@calum_ryan HWC London back with @barryf ...and first time for @justinavery! #indieweb https://twitter.com/calum_ryan/status/869987564026863616/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/869987564026863616)
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@gRegorLove Hey Bellingham, join us tonight @TheFoundryWA for Homebrew Website Club: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-31-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/869988108833505281)
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sebsel ohh, I got an IndieWeb like from Jeena :D always magic when it's not a bridgy one.
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Zegnat So, on one end I really want to put our picture on the wiki. On the other hand, look at my face in Jeena’s screenshot ?
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ben_thatmustbeme [kevinmarks] adding rels back in wouldn't do any good as its not xml. you need to use http headers for it
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Jeena hehe sebsel
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Jeena haha Zegnat, it's not easy to time it so everybody is in their spot, it's impossible to get everyone to look good at the same time ^^
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Loqi hehe
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Jeena I also fixed so http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/yes-all-being-well-i-will-connect shows up as a RSVP. It's an ugly workaround but I think it's because of the old ruby-mf2 parser, so hopefully I will be able to remove that once I use the new one
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] Yes: All being well, I will connect.
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Zegnat Jeena++ for fixing stuff on HWC night
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Loqi jeena has 38 karma in this channel (47 overall)
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ben_thatmustbeme thinks people will be quite happy when they update to the new ruby parser, comes with a command line script too
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ben_thatmustbeme but Jeena and [barryf] can let me know their thoughts on that one
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[barryf] Hey ben_thatmustbeme I've just updated this week and it helped fix a long term issue with nested values. Thanks!
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ben_thatmustbeme yay!
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Loqi ?
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[kevinmarks] it's TWiG time
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[kevinmarks] send me things to mention
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jjuran what is TWiG
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Loqi twig may refer to TWiG (This Week in Google), or the Twig (template engine) https://indieweb.org/twig
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jjuran [kevinmarks]: IndieWeb only, or anything?
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@benwerd Excited to head to Portland for the weekend of June 25-26 to help build a more independent web. You should come too! https://2017.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/870014046568800257)
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[kevinmarks] anything, though indieweb is very welcom
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KartikPrabhu plug IWS upcoming
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KartikPrabhu micropub is a W3C rec
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[kevinmarks] there is http://www.kpcb.com/internet-trends
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gRegorLove [kevinmarks]: May not be much to discuss yet, but ben_thatmustbeme's working on jf2 profile and jsonfeed interop
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gRegorLove Several readers and a podcast aggregator consuming jsonfeed now, could discuss pros/cons
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gRegorLove [kevinmarks]: 20 spots remaining for IWS
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jjuran [kevinmarks]: <https://www.v68k.org/advanced-mac-substitute/> :-)
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[kevinmarks] i think jsonfeed is too inside baseball, and I agree with aaron that we don't want to start a splitters row
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gRegorLove good point
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tantek agreed
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tantek still ruminating on a productive way to add to issue 49 (re: jsonfeed)
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tantek I think it will be along the lines of encouraging all experiments with attempting simpler solutions, formats or otherwise
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on @Mentions by Now: May 2017" by Now: May 2017 on 2017-05-31 http://boffosocko.com/mentions/#comment-34773
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on About Chris Aldrich by Now: May 2017" by Now: May 2017 on 2017-05-31 http://boffosocko.com/about/#comment-34774
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on Review and notes from The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing by Marie Kondo by Now: May 2017" by Now: May 2017 on 2017-05-31 http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/09/the-life-changing-magic-of-tidying-up-by-marie-kondo/#comment-34775
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Loqi [superfeedr] "There Is No Front-End Web Development Crisis" by Mike Sugarbaker on 2016-06-21 https://medium.com/@misuba/there-is-no-front-end-web-development-crisis-cb126eb0f6d3?source=rss-669cf77dcb7------2
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The IndieWeb people are working on this." by Mike Sugarbaker on 2016-12-05 https://medium.com/@misuba/the-indieweb-people-are-working-on-this-1bb85f7f8ab3?source=rss-669cf77dcb7------2
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schmarty !tell jjuran: HWC Baltimore remote link: appear.in/hwc-baltimore
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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schmarty HWC Baltimore is getting started with our quiet writing hour.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Introducing AltPlatform & our manifesto for the Open Web | AltPlatform" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-05-31 http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/31/introducing-altplatform-our-manifesto-for-the-open-web-altplatform/
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[chrisaldrich] ^^ This new blog by the creator of ReadWriteWeb sounds a lot like us. Folks should reach out if they know the principles: http://altplatform.org/about-us/
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: jeremycherfas left you a message 1 day, 8 hours ago: Do you post from Quill to Known? And does Quill recognise your Known syndication targets?
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Loqi About Us
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@ChrisAldrich @ricmac This looks like a must-read blog for #Indieweb proponents.​​ http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/31/introducing-altplatform-our-manifesto-for-the-open-web-altplatform/ (twitter.com/_/status/870053774705938432)
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todrobbins nice share @Loqi
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[chrisaldrich] !tell jeremycherfas I haven't used Quill in a while for that, but I could give it a try to see what I get. I believe it's worked it in the past.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich] s/principles/principals
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Introducing AltPlatform & our manifesto for the Open Web | AltPlatform" http://altplatform.org/2017/05/30/open-web-manifesto/ (from http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/31/introducing-altplatform-our-manifesto-for-the-open-web-altplatform/)
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@ChrisAldrich @ricmac There are a bunch of us building exactly what your manifesto speaks about. I hope you'll join us at https://indieweb.org. (twitter.com/_/status/870058632615837696)
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@ChrisAldrich @ricmac In particular a lot of this type of open architecture already exists as plugins for @WordPress http://indieweb.org/wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/870059302140092416)
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jjuran schmarty: thanks
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Loqi jjuran: schmarty left you a message 1 hour ago: HWC Baltimore remote link: appear.in/hwc-baltimore
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@ricmac @ChrisAldrich Thanks, yes we’re big admirers of http://indieweb.org. We’re just another collection of voices to… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/870061503650516992 (twitter.com/_/status/870061503650516992)
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