#indieweb 2017-06-04

2017-06-04 UTC
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GWG
miklb: You want to do 'local' likes on your site?
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miklb
GWG well, I want to do a webmention like of a reply to my post
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miklb
so instead of replying to a reply, a like of a reply. If that makes sense
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GWG
Yes
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miklb
shouldn't be too difficult to add
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Zegnat
!tell aaronpk Do webmention.io status pages get removed after a certain amount of time? https://webmention.io/indiewebcamp/webmention/qcdYT9Gw0t91GewcOvvb
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[kevinmarks]
Woodwind had died again
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Zegnat
!tell jeremycherfas Re one of our discussion points during HWC, the problem with documentation in open-source. https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/06/02/free-software-is-suffering-because-coders-dont-know-how-to-write-documentation/
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie]
tantek: nope, there isn't. Next one is June 28
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[eddie]
(See #chat)
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tantek
[eddie]: #indieweb-chat is unlogged for IRC folks :)
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tantek
HWC discussion is ok to have here on the main #indieweb channel
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[eddie]
Ohhh haha. They were chatting about living locations and then HWC Baltimore was just mentioned casually
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Loqi
hehe
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aaronpk
good morning
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Loqi
aaronpk: Zegnat left you a message 2 hours, 14 minutes ago: Do webmention.io status pages get removed after a certain amount of time? https://webmention.io/indiewebcamp/webmention/qcdYT9Gw0t91GewcOvvb
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GWG
Good morning
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Loqi
good morning
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aaronpk
Zegnat: shouldn't be, but you have to be logged in to see those pages
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Zegnat
Shouldn’t those always return the status? In case the WM sender wants to check?
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aaronpk
oh wait i was thinking of the notification URL
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aaronpk
yeah the status URLs are public
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Zegnat
aaronpk, that one gives an error not found though, where it previously returned a correct status. So I was wondering if you drop them from the database at some point, or what is going on.
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aaronpk
odd, i see it in the database still
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aaronpk
ah my bad, they do expire after 3 days
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Zegnat
aaronpk, hmm, I wonder if there is some way you could return Gone instead of Not Found then. But that would require keeping a list of all IDs ever used
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aaronpk
if i encoded the timestamp it was created into the random string then i could
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Zegnat
"Gone" would better inform someone that a status page used to exist but that it was dropped (for whatever reason).
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aaronpk
heh, youtube content ID found the johnny cash song from the Nürnberg 2017 demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4VBK56P4g
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aaronpk
er, location session
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Zegnat
What does that mean, aaronpk?
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Zegnat
I still see the entire thing available?
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Zegnat
asks in case he should download the session from his current location
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aaronpk
it means you might see an ad when you play the video
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aaronpk
thankfully they don't just take down videos with copyright infringements anymore, they put ads on them and give the ad revenue to the copyright holder
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Zegnat
aaronpk, aah, I didn’t notice an ad but that could be my blocker set-up
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Zegnat
If they would have done as Twitch does and mute the infringing part of the VOD, that would have even helped us out with the eardrum killing volume change.
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Zegnat
Get on it YouTube!
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aaronpk
haha yeah that sound was way louder than i expected
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Loqi
awesome
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Zegnat
I think adactio owes me a drink next time we meet, to make up for that blast :p
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GWG
I am going to try to add some more display text to my media type posts today. I paused that last week
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GWG
Text design is hard for me
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tantek
GWG, good text design is very hard in general. You are not alone. microcopy design is related
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GWG
I am trying to map out formatting for a jam, scrobbling, and the video equivalent.
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tantek
GWG, one way to figure out good text design is to collect examples of silo text design, e.g. what silos do when they cross-post to Twitter (and thus have to turn their posts into short bits of text)
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tantek
this is how I figured out the text design for a /jam btw, by documenting what ThisIsMyJam did when cross-posting to Twitter
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tantek
for each of those, /jam /scrobble /video - see if their # Brainstorming section has a "text design" subsection, if not, start it
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GWG
I have been looking, but I also don't participate in those sorts of sites.
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GWG
For me, one of those types if I talk about it is more in Review territory
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tantek
GWG, others participate in those sorts of sites, you can ask for specific help with screenshots and such
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tantek
that's why we're all here :)
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GWG
Yes
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GWG
But I may start researching reviews, which I don't do, as part of this.
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GWG
The review page could use some love
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tantek
give it some! :)
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GWG
I am tempted
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GWG
Just have to contemplate it
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tantek
start with simple improvements, per /wikify
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GWG
I want to add through the lens of self dogfooding
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eli_oat
yo yo!
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GWG
Howdy
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schmarty
Oh hello
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Loqi
schmarty: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 24 minutes ago: is there a HWC Baltimore this week? https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-07-homebrew-website-club#Baltimore.2C_MD
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schmarty
tantek: eddie is correct, no HWC Baltimore this week. Next one is June 28. I'll update the wiki soon
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miklb
'ello
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GWG
Hi, miklb
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miklb
how's it going GWG
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GWG
I'm owning my file syncing
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miklb
rock on
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GWG
Dropbox just hit its last straw, so I installed owncloud locally.
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miklb
I recently discovered syncthing, need to put it into action. I rely on Dropbox still for some iOS app integrations, but not a lot. Could probably find an alternative.
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GWG
Which apps?
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miklb
heh, good question. I **assume** I still rely on it :-)
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miklb
text editors, but they might support iCloud by now
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miklb
I realized last night the GitHub mirror of WP was broken, so switched to official git mirror so I can test against 4.8 better
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miklb
I have a pretty great git client on my phone, I could probably switch all of my txt/md files to a git repo and sync that way…
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miklb
GWG what was last straw for you with Dropbox?
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GWG
Too much CPU usage
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skippy
I heart Syncthing.
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skippy
i need to find a replacement for tt-rss.
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eli_oat
[skippy] I've been thinking the same thing
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miklb
skippy no luck with any of the planet things?
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skippy
no. all would require me to dig into CSS to style the output. And that way lies madness, for me.
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skippy
i may cave and use a hosted reader, as much as it pains me.
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miklb
I have no qualms paying FeedWrangler for syncing my feeds, just never liked the web interface. There a few apps that support it.