#indieweb 2017-06-05

2017-06-05 UTC
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GWG owncloud has a news feed.
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GWG I tried Newsblur, but I didn't like the interface
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I am sending an RSVP to the IndieWeb Summit" by Andy on 2017-06-05 http://andysylvester.com/2017/06/04/i-am-sending-an-rsvp-to-the-indieweb-summit/
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miklb I'm a little surprised there isn't any other self hosted feed readers out there, even something stale that could be picked up and refreshed
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aaronpk have you tried selfoss?
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miklb I had not, but looks good at 1st blush
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aaronpk it's okay
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eli_oat a sigining endorsment
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eli_oat that's written on the posters :P
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eli_oat "...it's okay..."
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GWG I'm going to make a note too.
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GWG I'm not happy with tt-rss either, but it was what I tolerated
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eli_oat What issues are folks running into with tt-rss, or why don't you all like it? I know I'm falling out of love with it mostly because it is grumpy about syncing to Reeder on iOS
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aaronpk this is why i want to make a reader
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GWG eli_oat: It's a community issue.
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eli_oat ah, I've never toed those waters. The dev. community of the project itself?
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chatter29 hey guys
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chatter29 allah is doing
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chatter29 sun is not doing allah is doing
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KartikPrabhu spam^
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GWG eli_oat: It isn't the only reason. I still haven't found anything I like as much as Google Reader.
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GWG But my recent decision to change from Dropbox has made me think I may revisit those issues.
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eli_oat I get that. I was a feedly user for a long time after google reader went away, but have been using tt-rss ever since I started renting server space when I graduated from college. Only lately have I started to question it
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eli_oat Actually, since starting to think more about indieweb principles, I've been wondering why feedreaders are so often password protected. I've been toying with the idea of building a simple clone of something like river5, and follow all/most of my feeds in public
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eli_oat ...but with this conversation, now I'm finding myself digging through this list: https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted#feed-readers :P
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Loqi [Kickball] awesome-selfhosted: This is a list of Free Software network services and web applications which can be hosted locally. Selfhosting is the process of locally hosting and managing applications instead of renting from SaaS providers.
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eli_oat thinking of giving https://miniflux.net a shot. I use https://kanboard.net by the same folks and generally like it a lot.
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eli_oat miniflux settup was terrifyingly easy!
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eli_oat alas, can't get it to sync to reeder for iOS, either
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miklb reeder is getting a little stale IMO
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miklb that's what has led me to search out a new reader, the desktop app has gotten crashy
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eli_oat ooplah, that is a great point miklb! I hadn't actually considred that this could be an issue with Reeder
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eli_oat ...my beloved Reeder
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eli_oat the first app I ever payed more than $1 for
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eli_oat miniflux worked great up until the point I tried to get it to update all 80 something feeds at once
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mblaney eli_oat I used to show my personal reader on a public page, you can try it if you like. I still have a public reader at https://unicyclic.com/indieweb
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mblaney I made my personal reader private after adding https://twitter-atom.appspot.com/ and https://facebook-atom.appspot.com. I figured that was getting a bit too personal to share publicly, plus it would classify as a twitter formatting violation...
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mblaney ahhh timezones gonna timezone. /me needs a bot to just "me too" any reader discussions :-)
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mblaney loqi will you do that for me?
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mblaney geeez not even loqi's around :-)
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tantek good evening #indieweb
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GWG How goes it, tantek?
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tantek GWG, it goes reasonably well. Good Sunday so far. posted something positive to my site which is always a plus (and a good way to start the day)
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sknebel good morning indieweb!
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tantek good morning sknebel
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tantek GWG, how goes it for you?
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tantek sknebel I'm listening to you on the IndieAuth session at IWC DUS!
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tantek :)
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sknebel tantek: I wasn't in DUS?
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sknebel :)
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GWG I'm in the process of abandoning Dropbox
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tantek what really? there is someone that sounds similar to you then
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tantek GWG, ooh a /silo-quit! Sounds exciting
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GWG Does Dropbox constitute a silo?
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GWG It always seemed more of a hosting situation to me.
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GWG Still abandoning it, but...
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tantek GWG, when you share a Dropbox URL, does it have their domain name or yours?
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GWG I never share it
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tantek purely backend?
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GWG Purely backup
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GWG Or rather, file sync.
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[colinwalker] Morning
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Loqi good morning!
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petermolnar out of those who do https-only: do you still consider IE8?
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petermolnar because I wasn't aware that the current libssl doesn't allow any of the ciphers that IE8 understands
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petermolnar so even if you do consider it, unless you're using a self-compiled libssl/nginx, it won't work
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myfreeweb petermolnar: IE is dead to me :D
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petermolnar I'm a linux user, so yeah, for me too, but the question is about the people visiting our sites
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mblaney petermolnar I have to support a wide range of people visiting my sites, and haven't had complaints that they're https only.
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myfreeweb petermolnar: yeah i'm talking about people visiting our sites. IE 9 and 10 are 0.2% globally, and that's the general audience, not the tech geek audience
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myfreeweb IE8 is 0.35%, a bit higher than 9 and 10 lol
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myfreeweb (https://caniuse.com data)
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mblaney myfreeweb I believe that's because Microsoft have done a better job pushing browser updates recently, so IE11 and edge are both well represented.
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mblaney and I say that as a linux user, who is just happy that IE6 is a distant memory...
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[kevinmarks] Bookmark << http://blog.del.icio.us/?p=1204
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Loqi ok, I added "http://blog.del.icio.us/?p=1204" to the "See Also" section of /bookmark
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petermolnar heh, image maps; is anyone using <map> for tagging things on photos without JS?
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myfreeweb petermolnar: I think you can't visually show the <map> stuff, it's just links, with hover titles (and there's no hover on touch screens). but why would you need JS? you'd need CSS absolute positioning of links, that's it
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petermolnar that seems to be true, CSS style doesn't show on <map> and <area>
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petermolnar bugger
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petermolnar hm. my svg icons are not showing in my exif block and I don't really understand, why
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petermolnar https://petermolnar.net/category/photo/ -> <aside class="exif"> blocks
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petermolnar oh. replace 'li' with 'dd' -> xlink => xddnk...
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petermolnar pebkac
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myfreeweb lol xddnk
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myfreeweb https://unrelenting.technology/notes/2015-11-06-18-54-34
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Loqi [Greg] Find-and-replace mistake I almost committed to Sweetroll: “category” → “dataegory” :D
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Zegnat Wow. For how long was I gone?! My client didn’t show me as disconnected, and suddenly decides to reconnect when I try to type something
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Zegnat petermolnar, re HTTPS en IE, lots of us have killed access by Windows XP users through IE already because we make use of SNI
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Zegnat Pinboard picked a bad day to kill their blog :/
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skippy Loqi: tell eli_oat the reason people password protect their readers is to maintain control of "read/unread" status, I think.
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skippy well that didn't work.
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Zegnat It is “!tell username message”, skippy
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skippy thanks
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skippy !tell eli_oat the reason people password protect their readers is to maintain control of "read/unread" status, I think.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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skippy Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 44 karma in this channel (58 overall)
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Zegnat sebsel, any reason @NS_online isn’t a link? https://seblog.nl/2017/06/05/2/hey-ns
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Hey @NS_online, ik heb net mijn nieuwe ov-chipkaart opgeladen zonder de brief te openen. En ik kon mijn geboortedatum uitlezen. Privacy?
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sebsel Zegnat I saw my name in the logs, but apparently Slack does not deliver notifications for my name :)
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Zegnat Aah, whoops
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sebsel eh, I just did type @NS_online in Quill but I don't have any nick-replace at the moment.
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Zegnat Alrighty. Wondered if there was a more specific reason :)
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sebsel I believe I used the Kirbytext tag '(twitter: username)' before when I exported.
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sebsel https://seblog.nl/2013/12/06/2/trein-leiden-zowel-schiphol-amsterdam < here I used a specific tag
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] @NS_online Met de trein van 0:27 uit Leiden mis ik zowel op Schiphol als op Amsterdam CS op één minuut een aansluiting maar Duivendrecht. :(
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eli_oat happy wwdc day?
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Loqi eli_oat: skippy left you a message 1 hour, 40 minutes ago: the reason people password protect their readers is to maintain control of "read/unread" status, I think.
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skippy just installed miniflux. not bad. i'll give this a try for a spell and see what happens.
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eli_oat skippy: that is a legit point. I hadn't considered that. I read things so compulsively I wasn't considering that
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ben_thatmustbeme well, new site code works, still have a lot to do though http://dev.thatmustbe.me/
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Loqi That Must Be Me
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ben_thatmustbeme completely open source at https://github.com/inklings-io/splatter
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Loqi [Inklings-io] splatter
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skippy eli_oat: if you dont care about read/unread status, a PlanetPlanet setup might be fine.
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[eddie] Added plain notes to my site so I can record all my “tweets” about WWDC on my own site this year! https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/06/05/2/note/
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Loqi [Eddie Hinkle] Only 1 1/2 hours until WWDC!
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petermolnar what is WWDC?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WWDC" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek eddie++
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Loqi eddie has 10 karma in this channel (17 overall)
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[eddie] WWDC is the World-Wide Developer Conference hosted by Apple where they release information on upcoming iOS, macOS and other major software updates.
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Loqi ok
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[eddie] What is WWDC
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Loqi WWDC is the World-Wide Developer Conference hosted by Apple where they release information on upcoming iOS, macOS and other major software updates https://indieweb.org/WWDC
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eli_oat what is PlanetPlanet
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "PlanetPlanet" yet. Would you like to create it?
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eli_oat PlanetPlanet is a river of news feedreard http://www.planetplanet.org
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Loqi ok
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KartikPrabhu what is Planet?
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skippy see also Venus. https://github.com/rubys/venus
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Loqi [rubys] venus: Planet Venus is an awesome ‘river of news’ feed reader. It downloads news feeds published by web sites and aggregates their content together into a single combined feed, latest news first.
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ben_thatmustbeme so we need to get https://pythonhosted.org/feedparser/ to parse h-feeds and then it would work for all indieweb
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tantek I thought Kevinmarks already did that
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ben_thatmustbeme not sure, i was just looking at the docs and it didn't mention anything
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ben_thatmustbeme although that page last lists 'changes in version 4.2' and current version as 5.2.0
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tantek what is feedparser
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Loqi feedparser is the Python Universal Feed Parser, originally by Mark Pilgrim, but now multiple forks are maintained at https://github.com/kevinmarks/feedparser (with microformats rel support) and at https://github.com/kurtmckee/feedparser https://indieweb.org/feedparser
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: perhaps add what you discover there ^^^
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tantek what is microformats-ruby
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "microformats-ruby" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek microformats-ruby is an open source [[Ruby]] gem to parse HTML containing one or more microformats and microformats2 and return a collection of dynamically defined Ruby objects, a Ruby hash or a JSON hash. https://rubygems.org/gems/microformats. Github: https://github.com/indieweb/microformats-ruby
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Loqi ok
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ben_thatmustbeme i found it, yeah, never merged back to master though
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tantek sounded like there were multiple "masters"
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Zegnat tantek, saw you invited me to the IWS on Facebook. Is it just me or did they take away the option to RSVP no on FB?
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tantek They changed it to "not interested" for public events
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tantek rather, they changed the button / display text to "not interested" which still means "RSVP: no"
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Zegnat Ah, does that mark me as not coming in the guest list? I thought that would just make the event disappear for me.
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tantek that's a good question
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gRegorLove Removing the event from your calendar is a separate action from Not Interested.
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snarfed1 http://scripting.com/2017/06/05.html#a080612 ?
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tantek snarfed, sound more like an #indieweb-dev topic ;)
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snarfed sure!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on ? Fuck Facebook | Daring Fireball by Amanda J. Rush" by Amanda J. Rush on 2017-06-05 http://boffosocko.com/2017/06/02/fuck-facebook-daring-fireball/#comment-34864
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gRegorLove !tell benwerd Is anything happening with Wavelist?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek what is Wavelist?
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Loqi Wavelist is a collection of podcast episodes curated into playlists by individuals https://indieweb.org/Wavelist
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skippy that boffosocko link redirects to the Daring Fireball post. Where is the comment mentioned in that link?
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tantek it's also js;dr
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tantek quite strange.
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tantek there are at least three different possible authors here. Gruber (Daring Fireball), Amanda J. Rush, or boffosocko
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tantek who's the actual author of the post that superfeedr notified about?
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tantek and where is the content of that post?
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tantek would it be worth filtering out superfeedr notifications of URLs with a fragment ID? (as they don't seem to work)
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skippy my confusion as well. i was curious to see what Amanda J. Rush had to say about the Gruber post. but i cannot.
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sknebel I think there is something broken with his reposts (that they redirect)
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Zegnat yeah, there is a meta refresh on that page. Does not make sense to me.
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sknebel (which also leads me to the question why my irc-client igore rule for those still doesn't work...)
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tantek no h-entry at the source of that URL either
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skippy "console.log('You are being redirected to the source item.')"
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tantek better idea, ignore any HTML where the only body tag is "<body></body>"
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Zegnat Fun, the amp version does seem readable: http://boffosocko.com/2017/06/02/fuck-facebook-daring-fireball/amp/
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Loqi [John Gruber] Fuck Facebook
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Zegnat The amp page is not js;dr, but it does take a couple of seconds before stuff renders for whatever reason
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tantek likely some plugin problem
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tantek GWG, any idea what's going on there ^^^
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skippy that's the whole post of the original site.
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skippy is this a feed reader or something?
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sknebel yeah, that's how he does reposts
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gRegorLove It's a /read post on http://boffosocko.com/kind/read/. The permalink redirects to what was read. I think the mf2 might be messed up and maybe the thing he read from Amanda Rush was on the same page at some point.
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sknebel I think the amanda rush comment is a (local wordpress-?) comment on that post
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tantek gRegorLove: there is no mf2 on that post that I saw
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sknebel superfeedr gets these from the comment feeds of the individual articles
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tantek is that a read post for a comment with a fragment?
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sknebel it's a comment on a read post
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sknebel I think
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gRegorLove I'm referring to the /read post of gruber's article
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gRegorLove There is mf2 on the page I linked
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gRegorLove But yes, suspect the superfeedr is a ping from an XML comment feed or something
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sknebel (and amanda retweeted a syndicated copy, so this could be bridgy backfeed as well)
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gRegorLove Ahh
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gRegorLove The mf2 parse looks pretty good, has gruber as the author in the h-cite: http://pin13.net/mf2/?id=20170605190049375
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Zegnat Ooh, a bridgy backfeed that gets added as a comment to the comment XML would make sense
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GWG Don't know much about AMP
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gRegorLove Yeah, and there's been quite a few superfeedr notifications from his comment feeds here in the past.
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gRegorLove GWG: Does the post kinds plugin do redirects automatically for certain post types, like bookmarks or /read posts?
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gRegorLove If you click the comments link for gruber's FB article on http://boffosocko.com/kind/read/, it redirects to it instead of the permalink on chrisaldrich's site
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Zegnat I hit ignore on the IWS FB event, seems to take me off of the guest list entirely. There isn’t a “not going” tab on the guest list either when I check.
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Zegnat So RSVP No does not seem to be a thing anymore..?
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gRegorLove Zegnat: I saw a "Can't Go" list on one of my events, but it was December 2016. It might only be visible to event admins.
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gRegorLove I don't think I have a more recent example to test against
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Zegnat Anyone here an admin on the IWS event? tantek, aaronpk?
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gRegorLove Zegnat: You can RSVP no to https://www.facebook.com/events/1871548633101103/
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gRegorLove And I'll compare
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Zegnat Impossible, gRegorLove :( I can say interested and going. That’s it.
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Zegnat Guess Ignore only becomes an option after someone invites you
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gRegorLove Ah, hm.
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gRegorLove The ever-confusing FB event system :)
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Zegnat gRegorLove: http://imgur.com/a/o3vZC
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gRegorLove Does "Going" drop-down options? It does for me.
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GWG That shouldn't happen.
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gRegorLove "✔ Going" "Interested" "Not Going"
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Zegnat No
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Zegnat Let me hit Going and see if anything changes
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Zegnat Alright, when you hit Going it changes and you do get a dropdown of choices
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Zegnat http://imgur.com/hPk4ISO
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gRegorLove Cool, looks the same as mine now.
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sebsel_ But does "Not going" list you as "no"?
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Zegnat I have now also hit “Not going”. Returns the UI to the first state with separate “Interested” and “Going” buttons
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gRegorLove Sounds like whether you're invited by someone or not changes the buttons a bit.
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Zegnat So I think hitting not going simply removes me from the event again.
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Zegnat Unless gRegorLove can see someone on a not-going list?
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gRegorLove Doesn't show you as "Can't Go" or anywhere else I can see, now.
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Zegnat Maybe it’s only a thing on invite-only events..?
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Zegnat High levels of confusion
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sebsel_ Don't forget private vs public.
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gRegorLove Yeah, I think if you weren't invited by someone, regardless of public/private event, you won't show up if you select "Not Going"
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sebsel_ oh, that is invite-only, nevermind
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gRegorLove If I add you to the invite list, then you click "Not Going" you should show up under "Can't Go"
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gRegorLove There is also an option on FB events to show/hide the guest list to attendees. It's shown on my HWC events
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Zegnat I was invited to IWC by Tantek
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Zegnat Feel free to invite me gRegorLove, for science. I am https://www.facebook.com/martijnvdven
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gRegorLove I will for next HWC. Can't for a past event, looks like
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Zegnat Ah. No problem.
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gRegorLove Doesn't answer that, but more confusion: https://www.facebook.com/help/131325477007622/ "How do I see who has responded to an event invitation? For public events Go to the event and click Going, Interested or Invited to see who has responded. For private events Go to the event and click Going, Maybe or Invited to see who has responded."
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Zegnat Hmm, if I keep adding IW folk on Facebook I am going to have to reconsider some privacy settings.
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Zegnat Ha, that definitely doesn’t answer anything, gRegorLove :p
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gRegorLove Making a distinction between Interested / Maybe is odd
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Zegnat Well. I guess I was put on “Invited” for the “public event” that is IWS. And then when I clicked ignore, I was removed from the list completely.
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Zegnat For private you require an invitation. So your interest doesn’t matter. Public events might just be discovered on your calendar so you can mark those as things you want to keep an eye on (interested).
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Zegnat What is audience?
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Loqi audience is an experimental property of a post that indicates the intended recipients (readers) of the post https://indieweb.org/audience
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gRegorLove Just dawned on me that IWS is *this* month. Time is flying by.
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miklb same
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miklb needs to get cracking on his theme
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gRegorLove Are you coming, miklb? Or attending remotely?
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miklb remote
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miklb but I still want to have my indieweb WP theme ready for it
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gRegorLove Nice! Building one from scratch?
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miklb pretty much. I'm using a CSS framework, but all of the WP code is scratch
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Zegnat When is IWS?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/IWS
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miklb well, I used some of GWG's work for mf2 as a starting point
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Zegnat Loqi, you let me down :(
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bear for aaronpk and other map folk ... https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2017/06/openstreetmap-public-data-set-now-available-on-aws/
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sknebel weird, seems to be a proper h-event
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gRegorLove when is next-hwc?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Meetup is on 2017-06-07 at DreamHost https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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Zegnat Hmm, I wonder if I could remote IWS, might need some extra days to turn my timezone upside down
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gRegorLove when is IWS?
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit is on 2017-06-24 at Mozilla https://indieweb.org/IWS
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Zegnat Oh man remoting IWS would be killing. That requires a literal day-flip. 9:00 PDT start is a 18:00 CEST start on my end, if I timezoned correctly
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gRegorLove Ouch
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Zegnat Any Europeans crazy enough to join me on that?
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miklb not sure an EDT start would help much there. But I'd love to see it move closer ;-)
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gRegorLove You could have a virtual IWC in your own timezone so it's a 48 hours of indieweb around the world. :)
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Zegnat gRegorLove, that would kill me, I would want to attend both, haha.
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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Zegnat Might as well take up polyphasic sleep
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miklb IWS marathon sounds fun!
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[eddie] Well that was fun, my first self-hosted semi-live blogging experience: https://eddiehinkle.com/tag/wwdc17/
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Zegnat miklb, I’ll do it if you join me ;)
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miklb I'm in
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gRegorLove [eddie]++
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Loqi eddie has 11 karma in this channel (18 overall)
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miklb Zegnat but might make more sense to start Friday/late Saturday and end with the demos still
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miklb s/late/early Saturday/
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Zegnat 9:00 CEST on Saturday ’til 17:30 PDT on Sunday (which would be 02:30 CEST on Monday on this end)..?
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miklb that might work, since the leaders summit I think would be going on…
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Zegnat Oh, crap, right, I was invited to the leaders summit by tantek too
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Zegnat scratches his head
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Zegnat tantek, has a time been set for Leaders Summit at IWS or is that still an open question?
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tantek Zegnat pretty sure we chose morning for all the reasons
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tantek or do you mean *specific* start time in the morning?
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Zegnat specific, yes
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Zegnat I’m trying to figure out how hard I am going to mess with my sleep schedule
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bear i'll be remote for IWS this year
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Zegnat E.g. will I attend Pre-Summit Meetup remotely at 4 at night. Important questions. Might depend on if I can sneak a nap in between Leaders and then ;)
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tantek Zegnat, as Leaders Summit will only be a half day before lunch, and have the afternoon "off", you should have time to take a nap / early sleep
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Zegnat That should work then. I could probably use that off time to get myself onto PDT time
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tantek cool
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tantek We should get remote participation working for LS also - so many folks in Europe!
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tantek and the UK ;)
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Loqi I agree
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aaronpk i wonder if i can go check out the A/V situation at mozilla soon
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tantek definitely. looks like we can get help with Vidyo training
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aaronpk ah great. that'll save me from bringing all my cameras :)
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tantek aaronpk - you got that setup once yourself right? to connect HWC PDX and SF?
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tantek what is Vidyo
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Vidyo" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek huh
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tantek I'm wondering if you can capture / summarize what you had to do, as a non-Mozilla person, to get that to work
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aaronpk i did once. i can get in touch with our contact there and see if i can go try it out soon
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tantek awesome, we should definitely try it again
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tantek test run with folks in Europe *before* IWS
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Zegnat Let me know if you need a test subject.
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Zegnat I think sknebel might be interested in the Leaders Summit too?
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tantek what is Leaders Summit
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Leaders Summit" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat What is 2017/Leaders?
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sknebel oh, right, that's getting closer. gotta remind the other 2 Berlin guys as well (I relayed the initial invitation by tantek, but that was "far away" then ;))
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sknebel (Portland is UTC-7, so 9 hours offset, right?)
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Zegnat Yes
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Zegnat I am considering moving my sleep to UTC-7. Unless someone wants to do Virtual IWS EU, in which case I will have to do polyphasic sleep.
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sknebel I'd join a virtual hack day
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sknebel if someone has a good idea for something to get working together
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tantek Zegnat, in the past we have done multi-city IWS (when it was the "main annual IndieWebCamp in Portland")
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Zegnat IWS hack day is 19:30–01:00 CEST if I got that conversion correct.
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tantek including one time in 3 cities: Portland, New York City, Berlin
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Zegnat I think it is hard to do anything structured for a 100% virtual one though, tantek.
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tantek it wasn't virtual in the past, it was IRL with a venue, schedule etc.
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tantek what is 2014?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/2014
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Zegnat I don’t think we can get an EU city onboard between now and the 24th.
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Zegnat Unless people want to come to Åmål for impromptu IWS!
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tantek Zegnat, you could try Berlin, e.g. Moz Berlin like for IWC
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Zegnat I am aiming for Berlin as my next IWC. Don’t think I can justify Berlin twice in half a year if I do not find a new job
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Zegnat sknebel, I would coop on a thing if you get an idea. I was probably going to work on my micropub-activity-posting-portal otherwise.
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tantek !tell schmarty is there a pattern to Baltimore's monthly HWC? E.g. nth Wednesday of the month? https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Monthly
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell calumryan is there a pattern to London's monthly HWC? E.g. nth Wednesday of the month? https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Monthly
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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schmarty good afternoon, #indieweb!
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schmarty tantek: Baltimore HWC so far is best summarized "we match up with the other biweekly HWCs except when there's a conflicting event at the venue"
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tantek !tell funwhilelost Is there a regular date for the next HWC Seattle meetup? E.g. every two weeks, monthly (nth Wednesday of), or something else? https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Seattle
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek schmarty, still worth capturing on the /hwc page!
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GWG Evening
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tantek evening GWG
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GWG Summit planning, I see
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GWG I still have room for a roommate
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tantek hotel?
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tantek oh hey actually that's better for #indiechat
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tantek what is site-changes?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/site-changes
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tantek an old page apparently
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calumryan tantek: HWC London now every 2 weeks unless stated otherwise
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Loqi calumryan: tantek left you a message 13 minutes ago: is there a pattern to London's monthly HWC? E.g. nth Wednesday of the month? https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Monthly
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tantek calumryan++ awesome! can you update https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Regular_Meetings accordingly? (currently London is listed under Monthly)
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Loqi calumryan has 5 karma
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Loqi [superfeedr] "What to do about bookmarked pages?" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-02-10 https://vaviblog.com/2017/what-to-do-about-bookmarked-pages
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Checking out [quill](quill.p3k.io) to see if I can use it to post to my WithKnown site. Seems to be a reply? #indieweb Keep forgetting WithKnown" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-02-06 https://vaviblog.com/2017/checking-out-quillquillp3kio-to-see-if-i-can-use-it
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calumryan I see call for proposals are now open for MozFest 2017 London. Might write one for Introducing IndieWeb at the Decentralization session space https://mozillafestival.org/proposals Anyone up for co-hosting a session?
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tantek please do!
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tantek and if it helps, feel free to list me as a reference (as a Mozilla employee)
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tantek schmarty: can you update https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-14-homebrew-website-club#Baltimore_MD
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schmarty tantek: done. thanks!
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gRegorLove reading http://www.joecieplinski.com/blog/2017/06/01/outsourcing-your-online-presence/
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gRegorLove "I’m not even saying don’t post your stuff to Facebook. But if Facebook is the only place you are posting something, know that you are shutting out people like me for no good reason. Go ahead and post to Facebook, but post it somewhere else, too. Especially if you’re running a business."
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tantek sounds like a good testimonial
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tantek see also: http://www.nealstephenson.com/social-media.html
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tantek "Though I never became a heavy poster on social media, I did reach a point last year when I was checking Twitter and my personal Facebook every few minutes. When I found myself manually refreshing the Facebook window in the hopes of dredging up posts I hadn't seen yet, I decided it was time to think a little harder about the effect that this was having on my ability to get things done."
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tantek what is social media?
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Loqi social media is the marketing term for silos and silo posts, ironically more anti-social than social, and encouraging of extreme opposition rather than medium perspectives https://indieweb.org/social_media
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eli_oat howdy
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gRegorLove o/ eli_oat