#indieweb 2017-06-15

2017-06-15 UTC
ricmac joined the channel
#
gRegorLove is skimming https://techcrunch.com/2012/01/22/post-mortem-for-plancast/ for lessons on "event services are hard"
#
gRegorLove What was Plancast?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Plancast" yet. Would you like to create it?
#
tantek wow really
#
aaronpk we saw mark today during virtual HWC!
#
tantek wait what
#
aaronpk he joined at the beginning!
snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek great! I've been chatting with him about IWS
#
gRegorLove heading to IWC Bham, brb
pl joined the channel
#
tantek :)
benwerd and gRegorLove joined the channel
#
gRegorLove s/IWC/HWC/
#
gRegorLove Hello from HWC Bham. Justin and myself here so far.
KartikPrabhu, tantek, KevinMarks and eli_oat joined the channel
#
Loqi [superfeedr] "This Week in Google 409: Practical Telepathy" by TWiT on 2017-06-14 https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-google/episodes/409
mdik joined the channel
#
tantek whoa Swarm UI update
[gregorlove] joined the channel
#
tantek four of us here at HWC SF already!
#
gRegorLove o/ SF
[kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] Who's there tonight?
benwerd, mdik and fzylogic_ joined the channel
#
tantek [kevinmarks]: j12t, stacey, jake
dougbeal|mb1 and gucci_meow joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme [kevinmarks]: how did twig go? didn't get a chance to listen yet
[sdepolo] joined the channel
#
[sdepolo] Hey kevinmarks been a while. You going to indieweb summit?
#
[kevinmarks] No, but I'll try to remote attend for some of it
benwerd, j12t_ and fzylogic_ joined the channel
#
tantek we're talking h-event maturing to spec
#
tantek and net neutrality protests coming up
#
tantek biggest thing is that IndieWebSummit is coming up
snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek less that 10 tickets left for IWS per the website!
#
aaronpk i reconciled the indie RSVPs with tito registrations and added anyone to tito who hadn't registered themselves!
#
tantek lol I'm still duped on the RSVPs :)
#
aaronpk you sent two RSVPs is why
#
aaronpk http://tantek.com/2017/139/t1/organizing-indieweb-summit http://tantek.com/2017/103/t3/going-indieweb-summit
#
Loqi [Tantek Çelik] co-organizing IndieWeb Summit 2017-06-24…25 @MozPDX! Welcome @benwerd; <25 spots left! RSVP: https://2017.indieweb.org/
#
tantek right! I wanted to test that!
#
tantek but I am just one person
#
aaronpk lol k
#
aaronpk i can dedupe on author URL
#
tantek I mean, de-duping RSVPs is an interesting use-case
#
aaronpk but we're gonna have to define the security requirements of this kind of stuff asap
#
tantek different from comments
#
tantek though perhaps similar to likes?
#
tantek if I post two like posts of the same thing, does it get counted as two likes?
#
aaronpk i'd say it depends on whether the timestamp of the likes are displayed
#
aaronpk it's potentially interesting if someone liked a post a year later
#
tantek liked it again?
#
aaronpk right
#
tantek reposted sure
#
aaronpk reposted definitely
#
tantek maybe depends on the presentation of the /likes ?
#
aaronpk yeah
#
gRegorLove Hey, I've seen people comment that they love something so much they wish they could like it again.
#
aaronpk lol
#
aaronpk on the indieweb, you can like posts as much as you want
#
gRegorLove Or "I regret that I have but one upvote to give" on reddit
#
tantek lololol
#
tantek now we're discussing Nest vs Raspberry pi
#
tantek as a metaphor for many things
#
tantek indieweb related and such
#
tantek "out of the box" experience vs. privacy, liberty, etc.
pl joined the channel
#
tantek talking about cloud models being fundamentally flawed (not in the user's interest) due to their bias towards centralization, e.g. company consolidation
#
tantek j12t is floating interesting open source licensing variants like "GPL for individuals"
#
tantek and I just said: "architecture is politics"
#
tantek regarding cloud etc.
#
tantek and sdepolo just successfully RSVP after the fact to the wiki https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-14-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisco
j12t joined the channel
#
aaronpk whoa, why haven't i ever thought about adding text to my food/drink posts before
#
GWG aaronpk: What have you done now?
gRegorLove joined the channel
#
aaronpk i didn't even have to write any code for this to work
j12t joined the channel
#
aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2017/06/14/18/
#
Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Beer https://aaronparecki.com/2017/06/14/18/beer.jpg
#
tantek whoa safe travels!
#
aaronpk still can't believe i'm going to amsterdam and back before IWS
snarfed, ricmac, begriffs and rrix joined the channel
#
aaronpk sure wish i had a logo for micropub right now
wolftune, ricmac, marjolein and mblaney joined the channel
#
mblaney once I've liked something in my reader, it gets highlighted and also changed from a web action to a link to the permalink.... so I can't like things twice ;-)
#
mblaney (technically I could, but made it harder for myself!)
j12t, j12t_, loicm, tantek, snarfed, ricmac, rrix, benwerd, KartikPrabhu, fzylogic_, jihaisse and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] I did make you a candidate logo for micropub: http://svgur.com/s/1vo
#
Loqi Micropub logo candidate http://svgur.com/i/1vo.svg
barpthewire, j12t, ricmac, sivoais and friedcell joined the channel
#
Zegnat safety check << https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2017/06/14/london-blaze-shows-facebooks-safety-check-deeply-flawed/
#
Loqi ok, I added "https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2017/06/14/london-blaze-shows-facebooks-safety-check-deeply-flawed/" to the "See Also" section of /safety_check
friedcell, j12t, ricmac and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] Safety check automates the process where geographically confused relatives ask if you're OK when something bad happens within 200 miles.
j12t, j12t_, [sebsel], ricmac and nitot_ joined the channel
#
Zegnat who is deathrow1?
#
Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Joelpurra.com
j12t, loicm, jihaisse, ricmac and [markmhendrickso joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso gregorlove let me know if i can help ? funny coincidence
#
[markmhendrickso re: plancast, events etc
#
Zegnat Hiya mark!
mlncn, Garbee and ricmac joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso hiya!
#
Zegnat Thanks again for making some time to hop on the call yesterday :)
#
[markmhendrickso thanks for having me! i'll try to make the full one next time
#
Zegnat Nice! If you have ideas for a different platform than talky.io let us know. Apparently Talky burns my limited bandwidth when the call gets bigger.
friedcell and AngeloGladding joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso i usually use google hangouts or skype for group video calls but i don't imagine they're open to anonymous callers, assuming that's important here?
friedcell joined the channel
#
Zegnat [markmhendrickso I would like to keep it as open as possible. Skype would require people to exchange contact info prior to HWC, right?
#
Zegnat On the other hand, we discussed Mumble, and I don’t know how easy that would be.
#
Zegnat burned through 5-ish GB of internet during yesterday’s call.
#
Jeena hehe
#
Jeena mumble is fairly easy actually
#
Jeena I don't recommend hangouts nor skype for meetings like this because they're propriatary and people need an account which not everybody wants to have.
#
Zegnat I am on 75 GB/month, approx, Jeena ;) So 5 GB for a single call is a little, uuhm.
#
Jeena sure but all video calls will be like that, mumble as audio only would help there a lot
friedcell joined the channel
#
Zegnat Anything not P2P would probably be better for me, I was probably streaming video to everyone one-by-one.
#
Zegnat I think mumble will have the audio go through the server? That would make me use way less bandwidth
#
sknebel yes, it does. an option for video might be nice, but efficient voice only is important as well
#
[markmhendrickso @zegnat it seems that with skype these days you can pass out a link to anyone who wants to join and contact exchange isn't needed (anymore?), but per @jeena's point, it's def proprietary and accounts are needed for everyone (i assume)
#
Zegnat Skype might also be a problem for Linux users, judging by petermolnar’s recent mumblings
#
sknebel does their web version (which rpesumably works with the link?) work on linux?
ricmac joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso i haven't tried their web version for calls unfortunately, just messages
#
[markmhendrickso but it appears capable
#
sknebel discord also is quite popular recently. but also closed
singpolyma, loicm and DanC joined the channel
#
Zegnat Kongaloosh, you do HWC Edmonton right? Still on for the 20th? I would love to get that event page online :)
#
Zegnat !tell kongaloosh you do HWC Edmonton right? Still on for the 20th? I would love to get that event page online :)
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
ricmac, Kopfstein, sebsel, friedcell, j12t, snarfed, eli_oat, tantek, wolftune, benwerd, KevinMarks and barpthewire joined the channel
#
aaronpk whoa twitter
#
aaronpk circles everywhere
benwerd, j12t and thebaer joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme huh?
#
ben_thatmustbeme oh, woah
[markmhendrickso joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso IndieWeb: Because Silos Round then Unround User Profile Pics Every 3 Years
#
aaronpk lol
#
ben_thatmustbeme haha
#
Loqi hehe
snarfed, KartikPrabhu, benwerd and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] That was all the rage about 3 years ago
gRegorLove, ricmac and KevinMarks joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] Remember http://ask.willsomeone.com/user/kevinmarks
KartikPrabhu, ricmac, KevinMarks and mlncn joined the channel
#
snarfed ? https://twitter.com/brianjesse/status/875401922508869632
#
@brianjesse my blog post got its first #webmention - thanks @schnarfed! Is your blog on the social web? add a plugin and reply http://altplatform.org/2017/06/15/cross-site-social-networks/ (twitter.com/_/status/875401922508869632)
ricmac, snarfed and KevinMarks joined the channel
#
schmarty i am guessing that everything after the "thanks" is aimed at everyone else.
#
schmarty i still lol'd
benwerd, ricmac, KevinMarks, mlncn, KevinMarks_, thebaer, snarfed, friedcell, eli_oat, nitot, AngeloGladding and KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
Zegnat Are the AltPlatform guys on IRC? They might need some help with IndieWebifying their WordPress
benwerd joined the channel
#
@ChrisAldrich I was just enjoying the new Twitter icons when I thought @t is going to have to change his site. #indieweb https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/875433209890254849/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/875433209890254849)
#
Loqi [superfeedr] "I was just enjoying the new Twitter icons when I thought @t is going to have to change his site. #indieweb" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-06-15 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/i-was-just-enjoying-the-new-twitter-icons-when-i
snarfed joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] they're small, they're grey, they're all fading away, twitter glyphs, twitter glyphs
sebsel, jmelesky, snarfed, ricmac, mlncn and wolftune joined the channel
#
@klickreflex Lorem Ipsum Indieweb. https://twitter.com/klickreflex/status/875449151739367424/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/875449151739367424)
wolftune, ricmac and benwerd joined the channel
#
@vipickering @brad_frost @sophshepherd This is what the Indie Web movement is perfect for :-) https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/875454453306052608)
benwerd, snarfed, wolftune, fzylogic_, tantek, gucci_meow, ricmac, j12t, j12t_, pl, gmack, friedcell and mlncn joined the channel
#
@klickreflex Tonight I finally came around wiring up my https://micro.blog/ account with WordPress, and WordPress with brid.gy ?  Go #indieweb! (twitter.com/_/status/875489491863121921)
marjolein, kerozene, mlncn, wolftune, benwerd, snarfed, ricmac and tantek joined the channel