#indieweb 2017-06-18
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@deadprogrammer Ancient web architects built giant sites without js framworks. It's a mystery bigger than the pyramids and Easter Island Moai. (twitter.com/_/status/867591955873751040)
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@geirmanc @johnallsopp @indiewebcamp Cool, maybe I'll go to this too! I just moved to Portland. I wish I had a spare room to offer you. (twitter.com/_/status/876232685588324352)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on @Mentions by Richard MacManus" by Richard MacManus on 2017-06-18 http://boffosocko.com/mentions/#comment-34970
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on Title-less Status Updates for Micro.blog by Richard MacManus" by Richard MacManus on 2017-06-18 http://boffosocko.com/2017/05/04/title-less-status-updates-for-micro-blog/#comment-34971
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@ricmac I've started an #indieweb re-design of my personal website, and will document it on AltPlatform. Here's part 1... http://www.altplatform.org/2017/06/17/indiewebifying-my-website-part-1/ (twitter.com/_/status/876303778785263617)
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tantek oh hey just noticed blog POSSEing too: https://kraft.blog/2017/06/34284/
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kraftbj waves
# kraftbj Been philosophically on board, but hadn't spent the time to actually do anything with said philosophy until this weekend :)
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# kraftbj no problem. it's been something just under the surface internally for awhile.
# kraftbj I just started looking to clean up https://wordpress.org/plugins/pushpress/ ... initially for to prevent some PHP 7.0 notices from firing, then read the latest websub spec so seeing what we need to do to modernize it too
# kraftbj once you start the process, just keep going deeper
# kraftbj If there was *one* piece of the indie web that could most benefit from widescale adoption, what would it be?
# kraftbj (realizing that is not terribly far off from asking someone to pick which of their kids is their favorite, but nevertheless)
# kraftbj Even if the beginning if there was *some* support, it could maybe help generate some movement toward getting more folks involved.
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# kraftbj presentation is tough too since in WP, that's typically the realm of themes
# kraftbj partly right now, the guts doesn't allow to expand the comment types to include webmentions as the next generation of ping-type replies.
# kraftbj yeah, most you see is splitting off pings from comments, maybe a difference of font
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GWG kraftbj: This was my opinion a while back. https://david.shanske.com/2017/04/02/indiewebpress-improving-comments/
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# kraftbj That makes sense, the custom comment types conversation would play into this b/c you still want comments -- whether solely on the local site or originating elsewhere via webmentions, but equally a repost could be a different type, a like another one, etc
# kraftbj yeah, it's really hack with the current code IMO
# kraftbj hacky* (due to WP, not anyone's attempt to work around it)
# kraftbj no, it's not dead but very much in hibernation
# kraftbj it's one of those things where overhauling something so widespread and full of random backwards compat holes is going to be slow and hard.
# kraftbj if there are more atomic things to update/fix that would lend itself toward that larger effort, i think that would be more likely to get in
# kraftbj yup, exactly.
# kraftbj the backwards compat wouldn't be horrible for that either
# kraftbj at least i don't think it would be.... famous last words
# kraftbj yeah, i think it is worth going down though.
# kraftbj we've (WP) have been kicking the can down the road long enough
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@brianjesse damnit, just read @ricmac's blog post about equipping his site and have to admit he (currently) knows more about #indieweb tech than i do (twitter.com/_/status/876321716259086337)
# kraftbj One thing I'm noodling in my head is how Jetpack could help with adoption of webmentions, at least to get some a broader user base before going into core.
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# kraftbj thinking outloud, one of the features of Jetpack is Publicize, where we syndicate a post to social media outlets and we already have the tokens for that in place. Could leverage that to get brid.gy-like features to a larger group.
# kraftbj even if we just shiv in something for the default themes on how to display it, that could be interesting
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@martijnvdven @brianjesse @ricmac That could easily be remedied, there are still some tickets left for the IndieWeb Summit https://2017.indieweb.org/ ? (twitter.com/_/status/876322400828346368)
# kraftbj yeah, it would need to, IMO. brid.gy did a lot of work for me before I added it and it wasn't a great experience.
# kraftbj sorry, i meant semantic linkbacks
# kraftbj but yes, exactly what i was thnking with publicize
# kraftbj we keep the post on twitter, fb, etc in meta on the wp.com side, it wouldn't be hard to pass that back to the local site
# kraftbj either store it in the same place as syndication links or somewhere where they can tie in together, etc
# kraftbj not on the local site
# kraftbj With that, I should head to bed, but appreciate your time and thoughts. Hopefully we can make some movement at least.
# kraftbj GWG: Agreed! If you ever want to bounce anything off me or bring it to my attention and I'm not on here, I'm @kraft on w.org slack and on Twitter.
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@stringy I wish I was going to https://2017.indieweb.org/ - maybe next year! (twitter.com/_/status/876349630178500608)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "@kraft Yes please! I've wanted core IndieWeb support in @WordPress for years. Are you at #WCEU?" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-06-17 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/kraft-yes-please-ive-wanted-core-indieweb-support-in-wordpress
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@JayGreasley I wonder if there’s any interest in Southend for an #IndieWebCamp? https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/876384780643971072)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Sonant Thoughts – Episode 28: Pressing The Case" by Colin Walker on 2017-06-18 https://colinwalker.blog/2017/06/18/sonant-thoughts-episode-28-pressing-the-case/
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# sketchess test
# sketchess well looks like I am alone
# sketchess ahahaha window bug
# sketchess know it is working
# sketchess hello there
# sketchess it doesn't has to
# sketchess anyway, nice to meet you
# sketchess yes, I have. made a contract not long ago.
# sketchess and working on my basic source code, still.
# sketchess Oh noooo. I never will grow out of basic? Hahahahaha! I don't think so.
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# sketchess The middle of research, I afraid. ;)
# sketchess +am
# sketchess Yes. I try to build something new. I somehow got here.
# sketchess So I learn everything about the good old WWW.
# sketchess XD What question shell it be?
# sketchess Oh, I see. Well you made your point pretty clear to me.
# sketchess But yes, there is something I wonder about.
# sketchess There was not much talk about "from scratch". And I wonder why.
# sketchess I am not a friend of CMS or social media databases. But that is my thing. ;)
# sketchess Well never trust WikiPedia. Hahahahahaha.
# sketchess Never heard about it.
# sketchess :) No.
# sketchess I just had a quick look so far.
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Zegnat https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ , https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/ , two W3C Recommendations that come from the IndieWeb movement
# sketchess I got curious.
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# sketchess interesting.... didn't know, it was part of w3, too.
# sketchess In fact, I do not really have any questions. I just wondered what the IndieWeb is.
# Loqi The IndieWeb is about owning your domain, using it as your primary identity to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and owning your data https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
# sketchess :) Yes, I read your statements.
# sketchess That and UX comes first.
# sketchess ;)
# sketchess If I not got caught by curiousity, I would be here.
# sketchess Hahahaha.
# sketchess Really?
# sketchess Do not wonder. My connectivity is slow today.
# sketchess Chances are greater, you misunderstand my reactions.
# sketchess ;)
# sketchess Well, what is about the UX than?
# sketchess It happens that I am studying and working ont it hard myself. Currently.
# sketchess I understand.
# sketchess So I am the total opposite of you guys. I am a pro in concepts with very basic knowledge at technical aspects.
# sketchess I am trying still to get it runnig. Hahahaha
# sketchess Sometimes it can be very fustrating to know what you want 100%, but not to know how to get there. XD
# sketchess I have collected tons of data so far.
# sketchess Tell me, what do you guys have in mind?
# sketchess Can I see something?
# sketchess Can I see something?
# sketchess -.- bugs
# sketchess XD
# sketchess a moment please I have to check my system
# sketchess good
# Loqi An event is a type of post that in addition to a post name (event title) has a start datetime (likely end datetime), and a location https://indieweb.org/event
# Loqi An RSVP is a reply to an event post that says whether the sender is or is not attending, might attend, or is just interested in the event https://indieweb.org/rsvp
# sketchess so you have trouble somehow with accessibility
# Zegnat Because the IndieWeb Summit is coming up (https://2017.indieweb.org/) this has been on the forefront
# sketchess yeah.... as I said, slow today
# sketchess got your roll page link
# sketchess tell me more about the problem you are facing. what kind of reactions you are getting?
# sketchess be more specific
# sketchess what are the general questions for example?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "general questions for example" yet. Would you like to create it?
# sketchess what? wait a moment.....
# sketchess I think I see were a little trouble lies
# sketchess unregardless I can't open the second link to permission issues
# sketchess wait a second I have to read parts again
# sketchess ok finished
# sketchess know ist is more clear to me what happened
# sketchess I can tell you guy one thing.
# sketchess In attempt to find out more about what IndieWiki is or how it works, I got question marks, too.
# sketchess I surfed and had a quick look here and there.
# sketchess You provide information and nothing is wrong with it itself.
# sketchess I am sure you know your project in and out.
# sketchess And I can only speak for myself.
# sketchess I got overwhelmed.
# sketchess First thing I tried, is your Wiki.
# sketchess Yes, it is not easy to understand for a guy like me.
# sketchess It feels like your are jumping fast from one point to another.
# sketchess Your roll page is very nice to look at. Don't get me wrong. But by itself it leaves questions.
# sketchess I would have to find my startingpoint again.
# sketchess That shouldn't be hard to do. ;)
# sketchess give me a second
# sketchess grrr... closed it, lost it
# sketchess ha .... got ya
# sketchess let me have some klicks
# sketchess Second reaction: Oh man, wow!
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# sketchess currently I am here: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started
# sketchess after some clicks
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# sketchess that are content havy sites
# sketchess I tell you why I am getting overwhelmed
# sketchess where do you hide the white space?
# sketchess All this information overflowes my brain to time to breathe.
# sketchess to = no
# sketchess I have a bit of a funny question?
# sketchess What are you trying to do, squeezing as much content togehter as possible? XD?
# sketchess Yes I can see that. :)
# sketchess I have not seen all of IndiWiki. What I have seen is not entire reader friendly
# sketchess some bad color choises
# sketchess missing white space
# sketchess depending on many many (bullet) lists
# sketchess leaving out some information on points needed.... sometime to much of information in terms of general
# sketchess ah I understand
# sketchess are getting pages published right away even they are unfinished?
# sketchess which state did indiewiki reached so far? alpha state? beta state?
# sketchess I thought it is a project.
# sketchess Who says it just appleis on software? ;)
# sketchess My own project somehow indie, too. I count it as pre-alpha state.
# sketchess There is a thing you can do.
# sketchess Before you fill in new content, work on the existing.
# sketchess It's kind of sad that I get the feeling pages where created and than got left alone.
# sketchess Thoughts quick wrote down befor they getting lost.
# sketchess don't you help eachother?
# sketchess It kind of leaves me wondering, how you want to achieve your goal.
# sketchess You like to have the web changes, if I understand right. Beeing supportive to other they are new.
# sketchess Reaching out for the same goals.
# sketchess But you seem not quite sure how can transport the message.
# sketchess you
# sketchess Zegnat, do you have a leader?
# sketchess Someone who gives your community balance?
# sketchess So their are poeple they feel responsible an connect to the community in a unique special way..... hmmmm...
# sketchess an = and
# sketchess who founded indiwiki?
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# sketchess noone said that
# sketchess it is kind of hard to explain
# sketchess someone had a vision in mind right? like I do with my own project.
# sketchess someone was sure his or her vision can make a difference.
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schmarty sketchess: the timeline (https://indieweb.org/timeline#2010) may shed some light on how the IndieWeb community formed.
# sketchess otherwise indiewiki would not exsist.
# sketchess thank you
# schmarty i also find this talk from 2014 gives a very good overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNr0JNwsLy8
# Zegnat aaronpk and tantek came up with IndieWeb during Federated Social Web Summit, as per https://indieweb.org/founders
# sketchess is it a ted talk?
# sketchess welcome
# sketchess I am wathing the rest later. I think I know where this heads.
# sketchess I wonder what my own projekt will become in the future.
# sketchess :)
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[shanehudson] sketchess: There are a lot of pages on the wiki that are like really useful notebooks. Maybe quite content heavy but full of people joting down their experiences while they are working on their own stuff. An example is https://indieweb.org/https, most of it was added as and when we’ve fixed things on our own sites, to explain to others how to do it
# sketchess I can't access yet.
# [shanehudson] If you view the history of any page (button near the top) you can see how they have developed. They are not articles as such, more explorations
# sketchess and welcome
# [shanehudson] Can’t access? Shouldn’t need to login to read
# sketchess There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs.
# [shanehudson] … that should not happen
# Zegnat sketchess try this: https://indieweb.org/https
# sketchess Boys you should tiedy up your rooms. Hahahahaha.
# [shanehudson] Oo
# sketchess Hahahahaha.
# Zegnat [shanehudson], your link included the comma: http://indieweb.org/irc/2017-06-18/line/1497790778875
# Loqi [[shanehudson]] sketchess: There are a lot of pages on the wiki that are like really useful notebooks. Maybe quite content heavy but full of people joting down their experiences while they are working on their own stuff. An example is https://indieweb.org/https, mos...
# [shanehudson] Ah I see… apologies, yeah I’m using Slack to access the chat
# sketchess do not get me wrong
# Zegnat Actually, the current chat log also does that: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-06-18/1497790778875000 … I wonder what aaronpk is using to match URLs.
# Loqi [[shanehudson]] sketchess: There are a lot of pages on the wiki that are like really useful notebooks. Maybe quite content heavy but full of people joting down their experiences while they are working on their own stuff. An example is https://indieweb.org/https, mos...
# sketchess logi i heard you
# [shanehudson] Loqi is a bot
# sketchess aha
# sketchess and why does he repeat?
# [shanehudson] He is showing you what the link says so you don’t need to open it
# [shanehudson] He does a lot of things
# [shanehudson] What is https
# Loqi HTTPS is an abbreviation for Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure, a protocol for secure communication, supported by web servers (like Apache & nginx) and browsers https://indieweb.org/HTTPS
# sketchess question
# sketchess does have any of you experience in 'writing art'?
# [shanehudson] Never heard that term before
# sketchess well zegnat told me their is trouble with the UX, people do not really understand thats going on
# sketchess And I kind of feel the same. XD
# [shanehudson] One thing you have got to remember is not one is doing this full time, it isn’t a company or a product. It’s a group of people trying to explore ideas and help each other as they go
# [shanehudson] * no one
# sketchess yes
# [shanehudson] A lot of people publish more polished articles onto their blogs, then link to it from the wiki
# sketchess Never tought something else. (fulltime)
# sketchess give me a second I am searching for the right words
# sketchess it would be nice if their would be someone who nurse (maintain) the content. it is such a pity.
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# sketchess lack of words again
# [shanehudson] Anyone can, and people often go in to fix typos etc. Maybe once you get logged in you could show us how you would do it, for one of the current pages? Can always be rolled back if there is an issue, so feel free.
# [shanehudson] And perhaps even making a page of ‘checklist for writing good wiki pages’ or something might help too
# [shanehudson] The main reason why most pages aren’t already well written articles is because they are not an expert teaching everyone how to do it, they are everyone figuring it out and helping each other
# sketchess that makes me smile
# sketchess sounds like someone like me
# sketchess where does it take place guys?
# sketchess zegnat
# sketchess it is kind of funny
# sketchess one lesson i have learned in life that is, to show is has more impact than an endless talk would ever have
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# sketchess and it is not very easy to unstand me and I know. hahahahaha
# [shanehudson] Absolutely true yeah. Also, please don’t think that people don’t want to write well. It’s just that a lot of the pages are from group notetaking sessions, or quick notes from chat
# Zegnat More information: https://indieweb.org/2017/
# [shanehudson] For instance:
# [shanehudson] What is iterm2
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "iterm2" yet. Would you like to create it?
# [shanehudson] iterm2 is a terminal emulator for OSX
# [shanehudson] what is iterm2
# Loqi iterm2 is a terminal emulator for OSX https://indieweb.org/iterm2
# sketchess :)
# sketchess Hmmm.
# sketchess It could be the right place.... I think...
# [shanehudson] A lot of us also keep personal notes on the wiki too, mine hasn’t been updated in ages but you can see it at https://indieweb.org/User:ShaneHudson.net
# sketchess I have a request. XD
# [shanehudson] What’s the request?
# sketchess All this mountain of infomation, let us leave it alone for a second. I am an eidetic person, but it is even for me to much at once.
# sketchess I just got here. hahahahahaha
# [shanehudson] Haha ? Sorry!
# [shanehudson] What’s your project? ?
# sketchess I would be more interested to know a bit more about you.
# sketchess same thought I guess
# sketchess I tell you
# sketchess ;)
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# [shanehudson] I’m a freelance web developer, work on all kinds of projects. Currently just finishing a WebVR project, prototyping how an office/work environment could feel in virtual reality. Also, believe it or not ?, I write a fair bit, wrote a book a few years ago
# sketchess whow shane take it easy
# sketchess did I said I just got here? XD
# [shanehudson] xD
# sketchess let this lady breathe
# sketchess well.... hallo.... you can call me Anja, nice to meet you
# [shanehudson] Nice to meet you Anja ?
# sketchess Think like moste poeple here, I try to create something new.
# sketchess wrong button
# sketchess I am not an the typical avarage person.
# sketchess and sometime my finger and my head doesn't agree with eachother. hahahaha
# sketchess my dream ist to have a educational center
# sketchess I am working on the first steps to achieve that goal.
# sketchess well I thought, I never getting be rich, but why should that stop me to take aktion.
# sketchess so I bought webspace not long ago
# sketchess but I have beem webmaster, author before
# sketchess it took me a while to find the right enviroment
# sketchess and you?
# sketchess hihi I might be alone now XD
# [shanehudson] That sounds very interesting, would love to hear more about how you are doing that.
# sketchess or not alone hahaha
# [shanehudson] One of the main things that brings us all together here is wanting to own our own data, control our own webspace etc, so definitely sounds like you’ve in the right place.
# sketchess never had to put it in words for others yet
# [shanehudson] Hah not alone, I’ve just been doing some housework.
# sketchess and I am aware that soon or later I have to let people in, at least for testing
# sketchess I was not happy with other peoples services. never felt right.
# [shanehudson] Never know when they will shut down either
# sketchess what a strange place the world had become over the ears.
# sketchess to many boundaries, too. to many rules that make no sense.
# sketchess to many who miss what's obvious.
# sketchess I do not want to live in a world which is missing opportunities.
# sketchess so I founded PicModi
# sketchess I think, my precept could sound like this. truly noone left behind
# sketchess a world that speparates us by definition and groups us majority and minority
# sketchess -p
# sketchess I do not care what is regarded normal
# sketchess I know diversity is normal and streng.
# sketchess so I bulding a project that hopefully works for everyone no matter what
# sketchess on my room door are sticking post-its of what and how and why it shell be
# sketchess XD
# sketchess I have search the WWW deep and I never was lucky to found something that is kind of what I am trying to do.
# sketchess there are pieces of the puzzle out there
# sketchess but noone put them together yet
# sketchess I know 100% what I want and why..... I am working still on the how everything is able to put together
# sketchess But I am proud to find the last piece of equipment that needed.
# sketchess stand in my cabinet
# sketchess grr.... moment my hardware is getting picky on me
# sketchess so that should work
# sketchess oh me
# sketchess germany
# [shanehudson] Yeah definitely sounds like a good idea to have a solid plan, though always try to start with a ‘minimum viable project’ otherwise I always find plans get far too big to actually do
# sketchess you make me smile
# sketchess shane
# Loqi Martijn van der Ven is a long-time web tinkerer living in Sweden https://indieweb.org/User:Vanderven.se/martijn/
# sketchess hihihi
# sketchess oh I have you guys alredy check out
# sketchess sometimes I do not like my t100.... or my finger brain connection hahahaha
# sketchess why are machines so slow XD
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# sketchess well zegnat we will see that
# sketchess Who is sketchess?
# sketchess I am waiting. XD
# sketchess I am close to Berlin, in fact.
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# sketchess does every meet-up take place in the middle of the week?
# sketchess Besides that, I don't know If I am ready for that.
# sketchess here buggy buggy here..... come and get it hihihihi
# sketchess welcome
# sketchess oh wait
# sketchess I am the bug
# sketchess aha
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# sketchess wednesday right?
# sketchess ah
# sketchess still slow connection
# sketchess no is propably my brother grabbing all the resources
# sketchess second day hacking hihihihi
# sketchess ah
# sketchess tihihi
# sketchess you have to excuse me a moment
# sketchess :)
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# sketchess sooo
# sketchess thank you
# sketchess I just realized, I do have a real question.
# sketchess In which wiki dialect is indiewiki written?
# sketchess back than as everything started I worked with pmWiki and tsWiki. So I have no idea what that means.
# sketchess It has been quite a while
# sketchess aha
# sketchess I am not fan of wikipedia.
# sketchess XD
# sketchess Well I still do not know what has changed since the 90's.
# sketchess moved on
# sketchess good. I always hated the {} tags. hahaha
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# sketchess I guess, I could stick around here for awhile. ;-)
# sketchess not to say that I do not have a community yet, hahaha
# sketchess what do you mean by getting online?
# sketchess profile... website...
# sketchess as I said I own already a domain
# sketchess and working on the source code
# sketchess well 5 hours past since the first question, if I own a website.
# sketchess I am still trying to understand how all that works with indiewiki.
# Zegnat You can also test your website on https://indiewebify.me/ and it will help you set-up things like logging in with your website and having a contact card on there
# sketchess hmmmm.....
# sketchess and here they are all the tiny little question marks we talk about earlier
# sketchess your sides talking in a phrased language I do not understand
# sketchess how the heck do I register??? O.O
# sketchess me too
# sketchess hahahaha
# sketchess it is not english or german
# sketchess how
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# sketchess their is so much tech talk going on it just confuses me
# sketchess I do not know where which part starts or ends.
# sketchess wait.... I think I am not on the wiki.
# sketchess slow down zegnat
# sketchess hahahahaha I just got here.
# sketchess where the heck am I?
# sketchess anyway
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# sketchess man I got in 5 hours so many links that I opend and closed, boy am I fuzzy now. Hahahah.
# sknebel sketchess: https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain this describes what has to be on your homepage for the wiki login - I hope the beginning of that page is fairly clear
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# sketchess I navigated myself to this point now. https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Getting_Started
# ClonedZegnat (Ignore this, I am lag testing.)
# sketchess I just write my domain and that;s it?
# sketchess what is whit the talking down?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "whit the talking down" yet. Would you like to create it?
# sketchess rofl
# sketchess it refuses
# sketchess nice
# sketchess well it crash against my forbidden wall, hahahahaha.
# sketchess their is no index it could get feeded by
# sketchess I removed my last upload.
# sketchess not propper working
# sketchess what does all that talk about the social media buttons mean?
# sketchess yes ist in in hospital on my desktop and is getting nursed, hahahahaha
# sketchess Add links on your home page to your various social profiles (Twitter, Github, etc) with the attribute rel="me" Ensure your profiles link back to your home page
# sketchess I am a non-social web lady.
# sketchess no rel-me's
# sketchess me <- pre-alpha
# sketchess hihihi
# sketchess I have no other places and do not plan to get some.
# sketchess what is a h-card
# Loqi hCard is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up people, organizations, and venues on web sites https://indieweb.org/h-card
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# sketchess sknebel, I am using a pen name for my content. Do I have to say more? xD
# sketchess :D
# sketchess I do not even know what that is.
# sketchess I kepped my mail stuff encrypted and locked for reasons. :D
# sketchess My data is my data.
# sketchess I am working not for nothing on a PIA service and with a pen name.
# sketchess public yes, but not in any means.
# sketchess tutanota
# sketchess the swizer where to unavailable
# sketchess ???
# sketchess I can't follow you tantek?
# sketchess what are you trying to say?
# sketchess hmmm..
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# sketchess hihihihihi
# sketchess question
# sketchess why do you guys do not just use easy words, when it comes down on explanations on our website?
# sketchess it is easy to get distracted.
# sketchess why not say how it just is.
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# sketchess well, not in 5 seconds.
# sketchess i want to try something....
# sketchess it might will lift the mystery for me
# sketchess hold on
# 
ben_thatmustbeme this is also why the chat exists, if you need clarification on something can always ask here and will help us identify parts of the wiki that are not clear enough
# sketchess welcome
# sketchess rofl
# sketchess what a little stubborn machine
# sketchess nope.... not working
# sketchess looks like I do not have the right ticket for this ride
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# sketchess It is not only the curiousity that leads me to have a deeper look into indiwiki. ;)
# sketchess But I must say, you guy really manange to get the hang of making easy thing more complicated for guys like me. Hahahahahaha.
# sketchess Well, looks like I am your first hard core test person.
# sketchess Congratulations!
# sketchess I like tuff puzzles.
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# sketchess :)
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# sketchess so, what's up
# sketchess go easy on me zegnat
# sketchess I have to process 6 hours. I am reaching my tipping point and start to get headache.
# sketchess to may pictures
# sketchess :)
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# sketchess I am not.... I rest a little.
# sketchess never met an eidetic person before, I guess
# sketchess what does that mean?
# sketchess hahahahaha
# sketchess you will need more than a 6 hour visit from me
# sketchess are you always rushing things?
# sketchess XD I would love to meet "all"
# sketchess you guys are truly one of a kind :)
# sketchess like me
# sketchess :)
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# sketchess you really have a talk ongoing
# sketchess question
# sketchess why is it not possible to log in without rel=me?
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# sketchess I have to study how that works.
# sketchess even my index is online, it changes nothing.
# sketchess meta tags don't count..... that's interesting
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# sketchess how
# sketchess I think, we see a thing from different point of view, I guess.
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# sketchess I am taking that as homework, to set up a PIA page for validation (login)
# sketchess I have yet only the half of the picture.
# sketchess :)
# sketchess well at least I have access to this chat room
# sketchess lol
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# Zegnat I am http://vanderven.se/martijn/ if you want to reach out outside the chat.
# sketchess hahahaha
# sketchess you are a funny guy
# sketchess and you got lucky zegnat
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# sketchess huhm, what a funny feeling, it flashes me back to the 90's
# sketchess eating
# sketchess I still have to wait 2 hours.
# 
@fletcher0xFF "I’ve decided to redesign my personal website ... to become a full-fledged member of the IndieWeb community." http://www.altplatform.org/2017/06/17/indiewebifying-my-website-part-1/ (twitter.com/_/status/876487950049169408)
# sketchess I try to setup an IRC chat. Boy have not done this in years.
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Liked:IndieWebifying my website: part 1, the why & how" by Srikanth Perinkulam on 2017-06-18 https://srikanthperinkulam.com/2017/06/18/liked-indiewebifying-my-website-part-1-the-why-how/
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# sketchess which one do you use?
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# sketchess trying to connect
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# sketch_ ping
# sketch_ seems like I am at the right place
# sketch_ funny, it keeps my browser login active
# sketch_ there was no logout button
# sketch_ key shortcut?
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# sketch_ as always, I try something..... :D
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# scribless let's see
# scribless well than it shell keep me till ping time out
# scribless yeah that's me xD
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# scribless no chance to logout hahahaha
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@DanielGenser Is blogging a thing anymore? Why? #indieweb https://twitter.com/DanielGenser/status/876449643135160320 (twitter.com/_/status/876507216605523970)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Von: Richard MacManus" by Richard MacManus on 2017-06-18 http://altplatform.org/2017/06/17/indiewebifying-my-website-part-1/
# Loqi [superfeedr] "Kommentar zu SemPress von Richard MacManus" by Richard MacManus on 2017-06-18 https://notiz.blog/projects/sempress/#comment-785498
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# ClonedZegnat Is this still connected?!
# ClonedZegnat Guess not
# ClonedZegnat The lag is pretty big
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[eddie] For anyone that uses OwnYourGram, do you know how long it typically takes for the photo to be sent via micropub? I posted a photo, after a while it hadn’t shown up, so I checked the site. The photo showed up in my “recent 20 photos”, but it hadn’t been posted to my site yet. it works fine if I click the “post” button.
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[sebsel] I got a new ‘day’ page, with all the posts of that day, with icons and all :) https://seblog.nl/2017/06/15
# 
@macgenie Who will be at the IndieWeb Camp in Portland next Friday? I think there are a few spots still available. https://2017.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/876564091803803648)
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[kevinmarks] A lot of non project ones are cc0
# [kevinmarks] *noun
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "reacj" yet. Would you like to create it?
# 
KartikPrabhu miklb: would that not be a like?
# Loqi [superfeedr] "New theme live on https://davidized.com/. I still need to work on some of the #Indieweb features, but I didn’t want to wait to put it up." by David Williamson on 2017-06-18 https://davidized.com/2017/06/18/12415/
# 
@davidized New theme live on https://davidized.com/. I still need to work on some of the #Indieweb features, but I didn’t… https://dize.co/b/3Sv (twitter.com/_/status/876588163363475456)
# Loqi [superfeedr] "A post on davidized.com by New theme live on https://davidized.com/. I still need to work on some of the #Indieweb features, but I didn’t want to wait to put it up. Also on: ?" by Michael Bishop on 2017-06-18 https://miklb.com/1938-2/
# 
@vagueidea Between IndieWeb and http://Matrix.org, I am feeling like a pleb today. #timetostudy (twitter.com/_/status/876589401282707456)