#indieweb 2017-06-19

2017-06-19 UTC
wolftune joined the channel
#
GWG [miklb]: I haven't worked with Facepiles since 2014. But I was going to try to add Reacji to Semantic Linkbacks someday
#
GWG I sort of liked the idea of converting likes to emoji for display purposes.
#
@dissolve333 @vagueidea We are always open to questions and available to help in #indieweb on freenode (twitter.com/_/status/876594228478005249)
#
@vagueidea @dissolve333 Thanks, just getting started with understanding WP and IndieWeb, so will post when I hit a wall! :D (twitter.com/_/status/876598354754453504)
wolftune, mmmdik, mblaney, begriffs, fzylogic_, tantek, snarfed, GWG, gRegorLove, ktoverso, barpthewire, [miklb], jihaisse, gucci_meow, [sebsel] and pfefferle joined the channel
#
pfefferle good morning
#
Loqi *yawn*
cweiske, Gold, friedcell, j12t, Pierre-O, AngeloGladding, almereyda, sknebel, plindner, Garbee, nitot_, ktoverso and [markmhendrickso joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso - Personal API that serves up personal data from flat files in JSON API format (used to power the above website but designed for whatever other RESTful use case): https://github.com/neotoma/personal-server (it powers my personal API e.g. my posts: http://api.markmhendrickson.com/posts)
#
[markmhendrickso i'm not sure if any ya'll are Ember (emberjs.com) or JSON API (jsonapi.org) fans, but I've started two interworking projects that use them that might be interesting to folks here:
#
[markmhendrickso I haven't made a lot of changes to them recently but I will gradually over time, especially as Neotoma (https://github.com/neotoma/sync-server) gets up to speed populating those flat files with my data from accounts all over the web. Please feel free to use and extend as useful to you! If you use your own flat files, even hand-compiled, they'll both be completely customized to you and your data.
#
[markmhendrickso - Personal website / "app" built in Ember that interfaces with any given personal API for its data: https://github.com/neotoma/personal-web (it powers my website: markmhendrickson.com)
#
Loqi [neotoma] personal-server: Web server that acts as a personal API for an individual on the Web
#
Loqi [neotoma] personal-web: Web app that serves as a personal website for an individual on the Web
#
Loqi [neotoma] sync-server: Service that synchronizes data from sources to storage on behalf of users
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
ktoverso Hello, #indieweb. Does anyone use a 'decoupled' cms approach with indieweb?
#
aaronpk hello ktoverso
#
Loqi aaronpk: sknebel left you a message 1 day, 12 hours ago: you mentioned a pubsubhubbub plugin for the wiki - is that something that we could easily get, or is that tied to the larger update of the wiki or needs dev work?
#
aaronpk what do you mean by "decoupled"?
#
[markmhendrickso @ktoverso hi! what do you mean exactly by "decoupled"?
#
ktoverso where publishing part is decoupled (could be on another server or even offline) from 'content serving'
#
[markmhendrickso ?
#
aaronpk well a common pattern is separating publishing clients from the servers, so that you can use multiple different apps to post to your website
#
aaronpk my website doesn't have an interface to create posts at all
#
aaronpk so i always have to use external publishing interfaces
#
ktoverso I somewhat wary about facing publishing parts to the internetz
#
ktoverso (like in wordpress days)
#
aaronpk maybe you are talking about the "static site" pattern then?
#
aaronpk where you only serve HTML files, and there's a totally separate process, possibly offline, for generating those files
#
ktoverso I'm thinking how to architech my ideal CMS (without that one fatal flaw all the other cms have, namely, not written by me :) )
#
ktoverso architect*
#
ktoverso Well, static-only server is nice, but how to handle webmentions in this case.
#
[markmhendrickso @ktoverso you're worried about hacking or other security issues with having publishing capabilities available via the web?
#
cweiske use a 3rd service for webmentions
#
cweiske I do that for my static blog
#
ktoverso So currently I think about three parts: static (content), dynamic (webmentions), and separate dynamic to handle original content
#
aaronpk what is a static site?
#
Loqi A static site is a website that is served by a web server directly from the file system https://indieweb.org/static-site
#
aaronpk should be some docs on exactly that there ^^
#
ktoverso Hmm, I didn't think about 3rd party services for webmentions, thanks!
#
cweiske you can host that 3rd-party service yourself, or use public one
#
cweiske see https://webmention.io/
j12t joined the channel
#
Zegnat this sounds like a voxpelli (ping) discussion. I think he has done work on enabling Micropub for static websites and blogs. So he can use any Micropub supporting client for writing content and still have only static files to serve to visitors.
#
voxpelli Yeah: https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github
#
Loqi [voxpelli] webpage-micropub-to-github: Self-hosteable Micropub endpoint that publishes to Jekyll by committing to GitHub
#
voxpelli ktoverso: that to post + https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ to show responses + working on additional services
nitot and KevinMarks joined the channel
#
aaronpk !tell eddie re: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-06-18/1497823608249000 I added docs on OwnYourGram's polling here: https://ownyourgram.com/docs
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
#
Loqi [[eddie]] For anyone that uses OwnYourGram, do you know how long it typically takes for the photo to be sent via micropub? I posted a photo, after a while it hadn’t shown up, so I checked the site. The photo showed up in my “recent 20 photos”, but it had...
#
aaronpk !tell sebsel ahhh i like the little icon summary of the day! I might have to borrow that idea! https://seblog.nl/2017/06/15
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
#
sknebel aaronpk: might make sense to show that to the user? e.g. bridgy tells you when it last crawled your stuff
#
aaronpk yeah good idea
#
aaronpk that'll take more work than I can do right now :)
#
aaronpk issues filed for later
[sebsel] joined the channel
#
[sebsel] aaronpk Thanks! It’s inspired by your monthly pages, so please go ahead!
#
Loqi [sebsel]: aaronpk left you a message 9 minutes ago: ahhh i like the little icon summary of the day! I might have to borrow that idea! https://seblog.nl/2017/06/15
sebsel, ktoverso, singpolyma, nitot, j12t, jonnybarnes, jonnybarnes_tmp and habr joined the channel
#
jonnybarnes_tmp hello
gucci_meow joined the channel
#
Zegnat Hi jonnybarnes_tmp
friedcell, wolftune, mlncn and [eddie] joined the channel
#
[eddie] aaronpk: Thanks for the link to polling info. Strangely I visited that page but my eyes must have glossed over the times
#
Loqi [eddie]: aaronpk left you a message 1 hour, 24 minutes ago: re: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-06-18/1497823608249000 I added docs on OwnYourGram's polling here: https://ownyourgram.com/docs
#
aaronpk I just updated it for you :-)
#
[eddie] ohh! Awesome, thanks ?
Pierre-O, [miklb], snarfed, ktoverso, j12t, jmelesky, billy_, nitot and billymaddex joined the channel
#
Anchakor why did indieweb center around new concepts like POSSE, PESOS and backfeed instead of the concept of synchronization?
KevinMarks_ joined the channel
#
aaronpk Probably because of the idea that your site is the authoritative and potentially higher resolution source of data
#
Anchakor synchronization in master-slave relationship is not something unusual
#
snarfed also silo APIs are limited and often don't support the fine grained operations you need to do synchronization well
#
cweiske the three concepts you listed are a subset of synchronization
#
pfefferle I would say that PESOS and POSSE IS syncing
#
Anchakor relationship of PESOS and backfeed is unclear to me
#
snarfed backfeed is kind of orthogonal to posse vs pesos
#
Anchakor but necessary for synchronization
#
aaronpk I PESOS my Swarm checkins and Instagram photos and backfired gets the comments and reactions for those posts
#
aaronpk backfeed lol
#
pfefferle PESOS: you sync external data with your own site
#
Anchakor without backfeed you can't have an abstraction over silos as a full social network with your data being your on your private master server
#
snarfed Anchakor: again, silo APIs are generally limited enough that if you try to think of posse/pesos/backfeed as a synchronization abstraction like that, it will always leak badly, enough that it's probably not the right mental model
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
Anchakor snarfed: I suspect you are unfortunately right, though scraping (through browser extension or automated web browser drivers) can fill the gaps
#
snarfed yeah but then you have two problems :(
#
ben_thatmustbeme Also, many times POSSE and PESOS are not fully sync, as some often append (originally posted at ...) for example
#
ben_thatmustbeme specifically saying, this isn't this authoritative source
#
Anchakor that's fine
#
aaronpk Oh also I don't always agree with the model a silo uses and might want to store things differently
#
Anchakor though I expect there might be issues with post-publish editing of posts/comments
#
snarfed yup. part of the point of indieweb is that you *can* edit a post and fix a typo (much) later, even if you can't edit the possed tweet
#
ben_thatmustbeme that certainly could be, again, really depends on the API and might have to do it manually, etc
#
snarfed or e.g. include links in a photo caption, which you can't in instagram
#
snarfed etc
wolftune and sebsel joined the channel
#
Anchakor but yeah, thanks I'm convinced the concepts are useful and practical, though my instinct is to think in concepts closer to what I percieve the ideal solution to be. indieweb is an iterative development after all, not a moonshot
snarfed, eli_oat, tantek and j12t joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme Anchakor++ great question to ask though
#
Loqi anchakor has 1 karma
#
ben_thatmustbeme its easier for others to follow when there are steps to get there
wolftune, KevinMarks, lmorchard, jackjamieson, jmelesky, snarfed and eli_oat joined the channel
#
tantek good morning #indieweb
#
tantek catches up on discussions
#
tantek reads about "synchronization" vs. the POSSE / PESOS / backfeed etc. building blocks
#
tantek The very framing of "ideal solution" as something desirable feels like a trap, in particular, the perfect being the enemy of the good.
#
tantek Anchakor: yes, the observation that indieweb is an iterative development is *very* true. By enabling small iterations to make progress, more people are empowered to improve their own sites, since many small steps are more possible to more people than a few (or one) big step.
[markmhendrickso joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso gooood morning tantek ?
#
[markmhendrickso anyone have background links for POSSE, PESOS, and backfeed handy?
#
cweiske what is POSSE?
#
Loqi POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere, a content publishing model that starts with posting content on your own domain first, then syndicating out copies to 3rd party services with permashortlinks back to the original on your site https://indieweb.org/POSSE
#
cweiske what is PESOS?
#
Loqi PESOS is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish Elsewhere, Syndicate (to your) Own Site https://indieweb.org/pesos
#
cweiske what is backfeed?
#
Loqi Backfeed is the process of syndicating interactions on your POSSE copies back (AKA reverse syndicating) to your original posts https://indieweb.org/backfeed
#
[markmhendrickso i get links about gangs and money conversion when i google ?
#
[markmhendrickso thanks! good ol loqi
#
tantek good morning [markmhendrickso !
#
Loqi you're welcome
snarfed1 and j12t joined the channel
#
[markmhendrickso the wiki seems to express a clear preference for POSSE over PESOS ?
#
[markmhendrickso ideally i'm also pro-PESOS over POSSE but perhaps a disadvantages section should be added for POSSE with something along the lines of "probably requires technical knowledge and significant free time to set up and maintain"
#
[markmhendrickso whoops, meant to say "pro-POSSE over PESOS" #facepalm
#
snarfed1 https://snarfed.org/2015-01-22_pesos-for-bridgy-publish
#
Loqi [Ryan Barrett] PESOS for Bridgy Publish
#
Zegnat That sounds like a tooling problem, [markmhendrickso. POSSE requires more knowledge only because plugins are hard.
#
tantek [markmhendrickso: there are pros / cons to both.
#
tantek the big deciding factor for me is where do *start* to create the content, and the freedom to create content without having to worry about whether a silo is down, or stopped supporting an API etc. I don't like that feeling that a silo is a gatekeeper for me creating content on my own site
#
tantek hence POSSE
#
tantek whereas PESOS means you're still vulnerable to silos whims/downtimes, though more ephemerally than if you were just using a silo
#
tantek PESOS can be less work (though sometimes not much) to implement up front, and takes advantage of existing silo / social media apps / UIs
#
tantek or you can do a combo
#
tantek e.g. I PESOS my photos from Swarm, then POSSE them out to Twitter, FB, Flickr, Instagram
#
[markmhendrickso fwiw both are hard and probably require technical knowledge at this point, to be fair
#
tantek at least enough to write markup :)
#
[markmhendrickso tantek agreed, i guess i was just noting that the wiki seems to tilt its hand towards the idealistic / POSSE solution a tad ?
#
tantek I don't like being dependent on Swarm to upload my photos, however I do appreciate using them for free JPG hosting.
#
[markmhendrickso my project neotoma is very PESOS so there's my bias i suppose
#
sknebel in which cases have you found PESOS noticably easier? It probably depends highly on the service.
#
tantek my bias is I dislike longterm dependency on an entity whose incentives are not aligned with mine
#
[markmhendrickso i dislike the dependency as well. I'd prefer to use an independent check-in client that syndicated to Swarm, etc too. But the UI and sharing model advantages are strong and tilt me in favor of near term PESOSing my relationship with them
#
tantek sknebel: PESOS is "easier" often in UI. E.g. liking something on Twitter, then PESOSing that to your site, is much easier than me posting a "like" of a tweet on my site, and having Bridgy Publish POSSE that like to Twitter.
#
[markmhendrickso has anyone in this group tried to make an iOS client for check-ins to POSSE them, for example?
#
tantek [markmhendrickso: Known POSSE's checkins to Swarm/Foursquare AFAIK, and benwerd has been doing that on werd.io
#
[markmhendrickso @sknebel i'd say swarm is a good example. in my experience, the iOS client is really good and i haven't seen a good alternative that POSSE's to it to switch from PESOS, although perhaps it exists
snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek The Swarm client does so much! location / venues, photos, etc.
#
tantek plus as a company they seem to be a lot less dodgy than other silos / social media sites
#
[markmhendrickso tantek is benatwork's iOS app available on the app store or something?
jackjamieson joined the channel
#
tantek [markmhendrickso: pretty sure he built a full mobile web app into Known to do checkins. no 'app store' gatekeeper needed ;)
#
[markmhendrickso tantek this known? https://withknown.com/ like, for students?
#
tantek known certainly has a lot of good edu features, however there's no specific "for" demographic like that
#
tantek they could probably copyedit that to make it more inclusive rather than seemingly self-pigeonholed for a particular group
#
tantek Known right now is the best "out of the box" Indieweb capable / supporting CMS AFAIK
#
[markmhendrickso ah, i suppose he's just marketing it that way – seems educationally bent upfront
#
[markmhendrickso i'll give it a test drive, thanks for the rec!
fzylogic_, jackjamieson, KevinMarks_, KevinMarks, [miklb], wolftune, Exodist, sketchess, j12t and snarfed joined the channel
#
sketchess good evening
kraftbj, snarfed, ktoverso, Exodist and Pierre-O joined the channel
#
Zegnat [markmhendrickso, I believe withknown.com used to offer hosting for all, but they have gone into hosting for “groups” now with their sights on edu. So, yes, mostly a marketing difference.
#
[markmhendrickso @Zegnat cool, good to know!
#
Loqi [superfeedr] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-12-08 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/why-we-built-known
#
Loqi [superfeedr] "A short note about web standards from your friends at Known" by Ben Werdmuller on 2015-10-13 http://stream.withknown.com/2015/a-short-note-about-web-standards-from-your-friends-at
#
sketchess greetings
snarfed joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme hi sketchess
#
sketchess a friendly hello back :)
#
sketchess what is the time zone of the irc channel?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "time zone of the irc channel" yet. Would you like to create it?
#
Zegnat Whatever your client displays. There isn’t really a timezone on IRC.
#
ben_thatmustbeme what is UGT
#
Loqi Universal Greeting Time is the convention of greeting people in online chat with "good morning" regardless of the local time of day of either person https://indieweb.org/UGT
#
sketchess well I have to rephrase than
#
ben_thatmustbeme the time zone of the irc channel is /UGT
#
Loqi ok
#
sketchess I try to find out when the busy times are ;)
#
ben_thatmustbeme there are people spread about in the EU, and then many of us in US Eastern or US Pacific, So it covers a wide range
#
sknebel people here are mostly from the US and Europe, some australians I think. so european evenings/nights are most active, since EU is still awake and US already
#
Zegnat The image at the bottom of this page theoretically shows peak times: http://www.kevinmarks.com/joyofsparks.html
#
ben_thatmustbeme we have some australians frequent here?
#
Loqi The Joy of Sparks 2016-05-08
#
ben_thatmustbeme checks /irc-people
#
sketchess thank you
#
ben_thatmustbeme sketchess: http://indieweb.org/irc-people
#
ben_thatmustbeme has most everyone's tz
#
sketchess quite alot
#
ben_thatmustbeme have you worked out logging in to the wiki yet sketchess? adding yourself there is a first-thing to add to the wiki
#
sketchess I am still trying to understand how rel=me (rel=author) works. Had a look into zegnats source code and did first researches.
#
sketchess as far as I can see....
#
sketchess I will get a problem, if I understand my case correctly.
sebsel joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme basic idea: if you have a URL that links to a twitter profile with rel=me (essentially that claims that the link listed is also "You") and then that twitter profile links back to your site (twitter has rel=me on their profile page) then you can assume that whoever owns that twitter profile, also owns the URL.
#
ben_thatmustbeme thats rel-me-auth
#
sketchess I did find a propper rel=me yet.
#
sketchess I do not have twitter.
#
sketchess no facebook
#
ben_thatmustbeme github?
#
sketchess no instergram
#
sketchess no github
#
sketchess no social media account
#
ben_thatmustbeme ahh
#
sketchess no google too
#
ben_thatmustbeme whats your url?
#
sketchess you mean my domain?
#
ben_thatmustbeme yeah
eli_oat1, camerongray, Garbee_, tommorris_ and bret_ joined the channel
#
sketchess what's now o.o.... did you get my last massage?
KartikPrabhu and gucci_me_ joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme last i saw what "you mean my domain?"
#
sketchess -.-
#
ben_thatmustbeme and i said yes
#
sketchess great it start again
#
sketchess grumel
#
sketchess again....
#
ben_thatmustbeme huh?
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
sketchess technic hates me
#
sketchess XD
Exodist and sivoais_ joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme so what is your domain?
#
sketchess do not expect much online, 99% are still stored in my notepad project file.... but well picmodi.de
tantek and rpcope- joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme thats okay, some just have a single page of just html
#
ben_thatmustbeme its not so much about the content, as the URL as an identifier
#
ben_thatmustbeme https://indieauth.com/pgp
#
ben_thatmustbeme if you don't want to use an external service for auth, using pgp will work just fine
#
ben_thatmustbeme the other option is to write your own authorization_endpoint
#
Zegnat I use email, you could do that too. You are going to have at least 1 public email address anyway: from the WHOIS record of your domain.
rpcope joined the channel
#
sketchess and now you lost me...
crasch[m] joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat: that should probably be documented on indieauth.com as well
#
ben_thatmustbeme rel="me" href="mailto:..." like that Zegnat
AngeloGladding joined the channel
#
Zegnat Email is listed on https://indieauth.com/setup :)
#
ben_thatmustbeme ahh, i missed that one
rpcope joined the channel
#
sketchess hmmm....
afrogeek[m] and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks] I should rerun the visualisation
initrd joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme sketchess: the basic concept is that the wiki uses indieauth.com (though you could write your own) which looks at your user page for rel=me links. it uses those to verify that you own that domain. so for twitter, it looks for rel=me to a twitter profile and that twitter profile links to your domain (with rel=me), and then verifies you own that twitter account via twitter API. For email, it knows that you claim you own
#
ben_thatmustbeme the email address by the rel=me link, then it sends you an email with (i am assuming) a link, or some way to verify you own that email address
#
Loqi I agree
#
tantek ben_thatmustbeme: do we need to do a better job of expresing "the basic concept" somewhere on the wiki so we can refer to it instead of having to resimplify it?
#
ben_thatmustbeme i'm wondering if that might be the case
#
sknebel the entire indieauth cluster of pages has gotten better, but still is quite confusing, even if you know what's going on. for setup for the wiki there is https://indieweb.org/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain , not sure how prominently it is linked
#
tantek sknebel, do you know how to see what pages link to a page?
rpcope joined the channel
#
sknebel yes
#
sketchess I understand the basic concept somehow. But I don't have an idea yet, how I could get it work for me.
#
sketchess it's like a ping pong effect, right?
#
tantek sketchess, what is your domain name?
#
sketchess :D
#
sketchess picmodi ..... still nothing much yet uploaded
#
sketchess .de
#
sketchess sorry
#
tantek sknebel - taking meta to #indieweb-dev
#
sketchess it' like chewing steel for me
#
ben_thatmustbeme sketchess: if you have a public email addres, try adding <a href="mailto:....de" rel="me">email</a> to your site
#
ben_thatmustbeme thats all you would need to be able to login
#
tantek sketchess, curious. what about it feels like "chewing steel" - we can try to help improve that
#
sketchess give me a second.....
#
sketchess do you have a list of possible rel=me 's?
#
sketchess a overview
#
ben_thatmustbeme rel=me can be added to any link, but for ones that indieauth.com supports?
#
sketchess I am not a friend of 'mail to'.
#
sketchess well that is a thing I have non knowledge about
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme https://indieauth.com/setup this has an example of the rel=me options it supports
#
ben_thatmustbeme rel=pgpkey is also possible
#
ben_thatmustbeme if none of those work for you, the only options left may be a bit more complex
#
sketchess do you mean the list of ..... what you call it 'silos'?
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
sketchess like facebook and co
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: yes you can use your "silo" accounts in your rel-me to use indieauth
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: so far I have found github to be most reliable
#
sketchess I have non of such.
#
sketchess not a single one
#
Zegnat I am not sure if there is 1 list of all the things it supports
#
sketchess name it and I don't have it
#
sketchess pity
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: i suppose then you'd have to setup your own indieauth endpoint which does authorisation and all that
#
sketchess pity -> list
#
sketchess aha
#
Zegnat I wonder what is easier. Building your own authorisation endpoint, or setting up GPG
#
KartikPrabhu Zegnat: both sound pretty complicated to me :)
#
sketchess was that a rhethorical question zegnat? xD
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: to be honest, I feel posting your content on your site is more important
#
sketchess me too
#
sketchess lol
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: so I would suggest starting with that while thinking about web-sign-in on th ebackbyrner
#
KartikPrabhu err backburner
#
sketchess I think, I might be the one exeption of the norm than. ;) I just not fit.
#
sketchess Well that's my story of my life.
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: that is ok. indieauth was designed to get people to use their website as sign in with as little work as possible; which in most cases is to use a "silo" login or email. in exceptional cases like yours there is GPG, and setting your own endpoint which are more complicated
#
sketchess But I appreciate all your help so far. :)
#
KartikPrabhu :thumbsup:
#
Zegnat sketchess, you might want to look into GPG anyway. Especially if you are into protecting your communications and anonimmity. It is used a lot for email encryption too.
#
sketchess looks interesting....
snarfed joined the channel
#
sketchess will be a learning curve too, I guess
#
sketchess re-reads
#
sketchess What is backburner?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "backburner" yet. Would you like to create it?
gRegorLove joined the channel
#
gRegorLove Howdy, indieweb
#
sketchess Ah, I understand. Just a idiom / phrase.... .
#
sketchess welcome
#
Zegnat Howdy right back at ya gRegorLove
KevinMarks_ joined the channel
#
sketchess smiles
#
KartikPrabhu sketchess: oh, yeah backburner = do it later or set to lower priority :P
#
sketchess I like learning, developing, creating....
#
sketchess I agree @Kartik.
#
sketchess It feels not like the right time yet.
#
sketchess As it got said yesterday: at the and of the day, it's all about the own place.
#
sketchess end
#
sketchess But I still would love to help you guys out, too. Somehow.
#
sketchess :)
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
sketchess Perhaps there is somthing I can do. Just right for a non-fit like me. ;)
#
sketchess Who knows.^^
#
Zegnat Keep asking questions and pointing out where the wiki is too complicated. All you need to do
marjolein joined the channel
#
sketchess *grin*
#
sketchess I think I can do that. Hahahahaha.
#
Loqi sketchess: lol
#
sketchess I like Logi.
#
KartikPrabhu loqi, with a "Q" ;)
#
sketchess Ok. Than I like Loqi.
#
gRegorLove Loqi++
#
Loqi loqi has 60 karma in this channel (429 overall)
#
sketchess hmmmm.... the 'devil'
KevinMarks_, KevinMarks and tantek joined the channel
#
sketchess been excused a moment
KevinMarks and j12t joined the channel
#
sketchess yamy breakfast xD
#
sketchess I am curious. As far as many of you are developers, what kind of projects you create?
#
Zegnat I am a statistics student, I don’t have a lot of projects except my own site
#
sketchess Started to look around. :)
#
sketchess As far as it was possible.
#
sketchess Are they web related statistics or general?
#
sketchess :)
wolftune joined the channel
#
Zegnat Just general statistics at university, nothing IT related.
#
sketchess :)
#
sketchess How did you got here than? tihi
#
sketchess got astray in the middle of project research
#
sketchess rest is history, hahaha
#
Loqi hehe
LanaCoyote joined the channel
#
sketchess welcome
#
Zegnat I think I got here either from Jeremy Keith’s or Tantek’s blog, as I have been following them for a long time. over 10 years maybe.
#
sketchess wow
#
sketchess quite a long run
#
Zegnat They say to never meet your heroes, I am pretty happy to have met some ;)
#
tantek whoa
#
sketchess tihihihi
#
sketchess I was pritty surprised as my search engine spit out a link of this place.
#
snarfed sketchess: http://indieweb.org/projects
#
sketchess Look like it caught me.
#
Zegnat tantek, that “whoa” aimed at my statement above?
#
Zegnat Oh! I found the list of what indieauth.com supports! There is a nice colourcoded box on http://indieweb.org/indieauth.com
#
sketchess and looks like my s is gotten stuck again, tihi
mags joined the channel
#
sketchess Hmmm. I try to figure out what snarfed might tries me to say.
#
sketchess pity that someone is not able to see, under which section it is.
#
sketchess @zegnat
#
Zegnat What do you mean, sketchess? I think snarfed was just saying “here are a few projects people work on”, so the entire page.
#
sketchess ah
#
sketchess second regarding overview
#
sketchess sometimes I forget people can't see into my mind
#
sketchess boy would that make things easy *lol*
friedcell joined the channel
#
sketchess Well it is time for me to go. Thanks again for help.
#
sketchess I wish a nice evening and morning and everything else. :)
#
Zegnat Good night sketchess
#
Loqi night
#
sketchess smiles
#
sketchess you too zegnat
#
sketchess see ya around
#
sketchess sneaks out
j12t and begriffs joined the channel
#
tantek Greetings everyone, especially all IndieWeb Summit participants in person or remote. In addition to the IndieWeb Code of Conduct (indieweb.org/code-of-conduct), because IWS is hosted at Mozilla Portland, we are also asking everyone to read / agree to the Mozilla Community Participation Guidelines, available here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/participation/
fzylogic_ joined the channel
#
tantek You'll see lots of familiar language, and likely ways we can improve our own code of conduct as well
#
tantek It's a pretty quick read (3-6 min tops), and please let me know (as co-host / co-organizer) if you have any questions
friedcell joined the channel
#
tantek Also one of the authors of the document just did / posted a nice talk / summary presentation with Q&A. This video should be publicly viewable: https://air.mozilla.org/community-participation-guidelines-revision-brownbag-nala/
#
Loqi Community Participation Guidelines Revision Brownbag (NALA)
snarfed, michel_v_, R2ZER0_, MylesBraithwaite, bjoern, g3funk, johannh, tbrb, JulianFoad[m], TerminalPixel, takyoji[m], gucci_meow, Salt[m], jdcauley, M-mxuribe and snarfed1 joined the channel
#
Loqi [superfeedr] "@www.altplatform.org/author/ricmac/ exciting, feel free to reach out if you need any guidance. We're a happy and friendly bunch in the IndieWeb IRC/Slack channels, too. Thanks" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-06-19 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/wwwaltplatformorgauthorricmac-exciting-feel-free-to-reach-out-if-you-need
tantek, KevinMarks, [kevinmarks], davidmead, Leeky, arlen, eli_oat and treitnauer joined the channel
#
treitnauer Hi indiewebbers! We're starting a Homebrew Website Club in Wellington, NZ. I've created an event on my site but not sure where to add it on indieweb.org and which format to use in the wiki: https://reitnauer.com/updates/homebrew-website-club-wellington-july-5-2017/
#
Loqi [treitnauer] Homebrew Website Club: Wellington July 5, 2017
KevinMarks_ joined the channel