#tantekphew that was hard and barely got it done. ended up finding and fixing several longstanding bugs in Falcon, including referring to the wrong CSS file from my home page
#Zegnatstarts to use some of the new microformats she has learned about
#ben_thatmustbemetantek: I didn't have much time today with two sick kids and a sick wife, but I was able to push a bug fix to microformats-ruby parser, and release a new version
#ZegnatI’d like to thank everyone who has been making this great to remote into! Mozilla, tantek, and aaronpk, especially :) Hope to see as many of you in person some time soon.
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#Zegnat[anomalily], what is this about skyping into kareoke? ;)
#[jeanmacdonald]I hope everyone comes to karaoke. I'm already here with my Ladies Rock Camp group. I'll join you when you get here. You can start picking your songs at vbsongs.com
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#lordabdulhey there -- I'm adding support for IndieAuth/Micropub to some project of mine, but I'm struggling to figure out a good local development setup to work with
#lordabdulThe ngrok recommendation on the Indieweb site works, but unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem very practical since every time you re-run ngrok you get a different hostname unless you get a paid account
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#[asteres]any advice on testing webmentions? indiewebify.me said there is a way to do it in curl but I don't see it on the wiki
#lordabdulis there a way to setup a "fake" auth/token server that just returns some token that works for `localhost` type addresses?
#sknebellordabdul: using indieauth.com as a auth endpoint for localhost works, I think the matching token endpoint (tokens.indieauth.com) should also work, since they don't have to connect to the site
#sknebelwell, I guess the micropub client has to be able to connect to it
#sknebelunless you use a locally running one as well
#lordabdulsknebel : I don't think it works, since one of those 2 has to read your header and find what to authenticate with (PGP, Twitter, etc.)
#sknebellordabdul: not of the site that you log in to
#lordabduloh so you're saying I'm testing `localhost:1234`, but I log in to Quill as `my.domain.com`?
#lordabdulbut Quill will be looking for the Micropub endpoint on `my.domain.com` though -- unless there's a way to tell it to use `localhost:1234/micropub`
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#sknebelyou could just put up a static page somewhere that as a rel=micropub of localhost
#sknebelI'm trying to remember what my test setup looked like...
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#lordabdulAh yes a random static page on my domain worked! thanks.
#lordabdulif you remember your test setup please post it though :)
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#kylewmMaybe the least exciting thing ever. I was tired of getting an email for every error from Woodwind, so I set up sentry for error tracking/aggregation
#tantekthen I can parse for that and treat it as an RSVP!
#tantekand if that microsyntax gets any traction, we can consider feature requesting Bridgy to parse of it and turn it into an RSVP response on the Bridgy side
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#tantekwe're pretty sure no one has previously done Event + RSVP via Twitter before
#tantekso this would be an indieweb-only feature that uses Twitter for functionality that Twitter itself doesn't have!
#tantekI even hacked up a venue table of URL -> @-name
#tantekso if the venue p-location (either by URL or name) has an entry in the table with an equivalent Twitter profile, then my POSSE code substitutes that @-name for a shorter POSSE tweet, and one that links to the venue's profile which hopefully has more information about the venue
#tantekone more test, can I still post normal notes :)
#Zegnattantek++ for keeping it going when everyone had give to sleep.
#Loqitantek has 219 karma in this channel (356 overall)
#tantekand with that, now I can go to sleep, knowing that I have *plenty* of incremental enhancement in the future to add to my minimum viable events implementation. For now I can post events, semi-auto-POSSE them to Twitter (with some @-venue smarts!), and collect responses/RSVPs via webmention.io until figure out how to use it, or write a direct webmention receiving handler
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#[cleverdevil]Just boarding my plane home. Thanks for a great IWS all! I'll be tinkering on https://?.ws on the way home, which is going to be for my grill and smoker ?
#aaronpkGWG: like in general? I show both the time and timezone of my posts, including articles, but it's kind of not super relevant for the articles so i'm reconsidering that
#GWGaaronpk: I agree for articles. But for check-ins, notes, etc it can be
#LoqiA Virtual Private Server (AKA VPS) is a level of webhosting service where you get root access to a virtual system and can install whatever you want https://indieweb.org/VPS
#ZegnatGWG: I am a huge fan of seeing timezones because it gives an idea of location, but for posts that include separate location info I don’t think it is very necessary to show it at all.
#ZegnatAssuming you display the time as it is in the writer’s timezone, it gives a perfect idea of “time of day” (morning/midday/evening) without a timezone. The only thing the timezone adds is how far from Greenwich they are. But “9:45 in Portland, OR” is much more clear than “9:45 PDT” any day.
#LoqiHomebrew Website Club is a bi-weekly meetup of people passionate about or interested in creating, improving, building, designing their own website, in the same structure as the classic Homebrew Computer Club meetings https://indieweb.org/hwc
#[cleverdevil]Damn Twitter isn't allowing me to enter emoji in its website field, so I will not be able to do relme auth,.
#gRegorLovesketchess: Sunday was great; the whole weekend was great, excluding the high heat. Lots of cool things accomplished yesterday on personal sites!
#dougbeal|iOSLol, what does indieauth do with pinky code
#gRegorLoveNot necessarily, sketchess. The create/hack day at IndieWebCamp is very much "get something done on your site, no matter how small or how 'rough' it may look"
#gRegorLoveThere's also a lot of really great building blocks people in the community have written that we can re-use. My project was a fork of Quill and I just added a new post type to it.
#gRegorLoveIt took longer for the DNS to update for my subdomain than to code, really, haha
#LoqiXFN is an abbreviation for XHTML Friends Network, the network of visible links across blogs that claim various XFN relationships with/to each other https://indieweb.org/XFN
#[chrisaldrich]contemplating how I can get h-cards in there and dice it up a bit by category/tag so people can subscribe to subsections of it
#[cleverdevil]I'm thinking that eventually the "together" /reader I talked about yesterday could pull in feeds from your XFN-marked up links on your site.
#[chrisaldrich]I noticed the other day that some readers like inoreader allow you to subscribe to OPML feeds from others' sites.
#[chrisaldrich]This would allow you to subscribe to my #indieweb list for example and the reader could be responsible for autoupdating your feed whenever I add people to it.
#[chrisaldrich]Kind of like lists and subscribed lists on Twitter.
#LoqiOPML stands for Outline Processor Markup Language, an XML-based format and defacto standard used for feed lists interchange https://indieweb.org/OPML
#ZegnatIf you can mark it up with XOXO it should automatically be an OPML through, right?
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#[apatters]Is the #bridgy channel an appropriate place to ask questions about Bridgy? Or this one perhaps? The Bridgy channel looks to be mostly automated notices
#[apatters]Bridgy is aware of all reactions to the post on Facebook, but does not copy them back to my site. They all report 'No webmention targets.' What's wrong?
#[apatters]Site is running Independent Publisher and *only* these plugins: Bridgy Publish, Indieweb, Post Kinds, Semantic Linkbacks, Syndication Links, Webmention
#sketchessEither I have tomatos in my ears or it should be happening something in berlin pretty soon. But I can't find it on the tape again. I was sure I heard 'Berlin' before my connection died on me.
#gRegorLove[apatters]: Hmm, I'm not sure. Your u-syndication and u-url links parse correctly on your homepage and permalinks, so that shouldn't be it. And your webmention endpoint is advertised. snarfed or someone else might have to help.
#gRegorLove[apatters]: Oh, actually it looks like Bridgy is looking for a different URL than you have in your u-syndication...
#KartikPrabhugRegorLove: the u-syndication link seems to link only to the FB profile, is this correct?
#[apatters]So, switching the syndication link to point directly to the post did work, but I had to input the url of the post on my site into the 'discover' field on bridgy. Once I rediscovered the post i was able to manually cause each comment/like to syndicate
#[apatters]So I guess the big question is, why is it that when I make a post on my site, the syndication link only points to my FB profile url, and not to the FB post...
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#[kevinmarks]Unmung.com does already do xoxo, though I may not call it that
#[kevinmarks]Also I need to revise it perhaps as it does odd things with combined links and text
#KartikPrabhu[apatters]: GWG might be able to answer syndication link related questions
#gRegorLove[apatters]: Yeah, I'm not sure the inner workings of that plugin. GWG contributes to that plugin a lot so will know. He's traveling but you can leave him a !tell.
#ricmacI tried importing into Feedly, but it didn't work
#[pfefferle]miklb just pointed me to a mf2 problem... I currently use u-photo and u-featured on my featured images... is u-photo really about photo only posts? is there a wiki page about the differences?
#LoqiA photo is a post whose primary content is a photograph or other image, with an optional caption. With multiple photographs it becomes a multi-photo post https://indieweb.org/photo
#Loqifeatured is a proposed mf2 property (typically as u-featured) for h-entry that indicates a representative image for a primarily textual post https://indieweb.org/featured
#Loqi[Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML/H...
#GWGIf anyone wants to hang out at the Portland Airport..or adjacent...I have a microwave and mini-fridge
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#[chrisaldrich]my OPML file is still a bit wonky for those attempting to to subscribe to it. I was able to use Inoreader to subscribe to it and a few others last night.
#sknebel[chrisaldrich]: weird, inoreader failed for me
#Loqinotifications in the context of the IndieWeb refer to all forms and ways that an independent web site can receive a message indicating something of interest (server notifications), and potentially relay that information (preferably in realtime) to one or more devices used by the owner of that site (client notifications) https://indieweb.org/notification