#indieweb 2017-08-17

2017-08-17 UTC
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tantek kevinmarks that was a retweet example more than a like example
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[kevinmarks] I'm amused by the new subtext, which is twitter turning likes into retweets by stealth
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[kevinmarks] unrelated, this is interesting: https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/
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[kevinmarks] jsdr << https://twitter.com/brian_d_vaughn/status/897579764935872512
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@brian_d_vaughn "I kill JavaScript entirely and it works great" - Brendan Eich (This is my Horse JS moment ?) (twitter.com/_/status/897579764935872512)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/brian_d_vaughn/status/897579764935872512" to the "See Also" section of /js;dr
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bignose well okay, Brian Vaughn, but it's not a very useful post without linking to where Brendan Eich said that. context is king.
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aaronpk i'm trying chrisaldrich's "mom" technique. shh don't tell my mom.
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[jeremycherfas] I guess I'm lucky. Although my Mom is on FB, she doesn't follow me. Or doesn't pay me any attention.
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cweiske [jeremycherfas], do you get notified of webmentions?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Some of us are already doing this. Check out the IndieWeb movement. https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/what-if-we-build-the-internet-we-always-wanted" by John Evdemon on 2017-07-13 http://www.evdemon.org/2017/some-of-us-are-already-doing-this-check-out-the
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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petermolnar re Dat: is there an implementation already (maybe even browser plugins) to "stream" websites via bittorrent, popcorn-time like?
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jeremycherfas Cweiske: No, I don’t currently get notifications from Grav. That’s next on my itches to scratch.
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cweiske jeremycherfas, with https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-webmentions/issues/7 your webmention form would display a nice success page after submission
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Loqi [voxpelli] #7 Add a HTML success page
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jeremycherfas That would certainly be an enhancement.
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cweiske for your WM form style: http://fotos.cweiske.de/screenshots/2017/2017-08-17%20jeremy%20form%20style.png
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cweiske see https://commentpara.de/comment/105.htm
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Loqi [Anonymous] Here is what you need to do to make the form look nice: http://fotos.cweiske.de/screenshots/2017/2017-08-17%20jeremy%20form%20style.png - replace p with div - add class="buttons" to button div - replace input with button tag
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jeremycherfas Very cool! Thank you so much.
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jeremycherfas Will do that in a few minutes.
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jeremycherfas Cweiske++
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Loqi cweiske has 92 karma in this channel (110 overall)
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jeremycherfas Looking at the way the Grav commenting plugin works, it calls various processes to send an email when someone has left a comment. It might be possible to adapt that so that I receive an email when someone uses the webmention form.
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jeremycherfas But is there a way to send myself a notification from voxpelli’s Heroku app?
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cweiske I did not find one in a quick search
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j4y_funabashi morning all
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voxpelli jeremycherfas: push notification, a bit yes, I do it by converting the mentions HTML to a Feed that I send to IFTTT
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voxpelli Next aim would be serviceworker pushes
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jeremycherfas Where do I find the mentions HTML?
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/thekitze/status/895351902778650624
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@thekitze Start. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGzts08XkAkK2Y8.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/895351902778650624)
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jeremycherfas Voxpelli: looking around, it seems to me — as a total noob — that it might be easier to use Zapier’s webhooks https://zapier.com/help/webhooks/ to look at https://webmention.herokuapp.com/user/sites/jeremycherfas.net and send me an email when something new turns up.
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j4y_funabashi k
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@dauwhe On first blush it looks like something superceded by microformats h-cards and other pieces within #indieweb community for identity." by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-16 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/dauwhe-on-first-blush-it-looks-like-something-superceded-by
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petermolnar !tell tantek the fact that pgup and pgdown navigates away from your single post pages confuses me
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed petermolnar++ agreed! me too
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Loqi petermolnar has 28 karma in this channel (45 overall)
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snarfed keyboardscrolling++
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Loqi keyboardscrolling has 1 karma
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aaronpk progress report: the chrisaldrich mom trick seems to have worked
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snarfed funny
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aaronpk it appears that way more people who don't normally interact with my posts have seen this one
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snarfed based on responses?
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aaronpk likes
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sknebel so, can we learn anything for what we do from this mornings freenode spam incident? Do not download/display images from unknown sites?
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aaronpk i didn't actually read what happened with that
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sknebel mass-spam of PMs that at least partially (from what I've read, I didn't click any links and quickly turned of PMs from non-registered users) contained links to child pornography, and ircops banned tons of people by accident fighting it
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aaronpk not sure how download/display of images factors into that
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sknebel well, do you want your server to mirror/host such content just because it got a webmention?
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aaronpk oh, well tantek is already dogfooding this cause he gets so many spam @t mentions on twitter, and quite a lot of spam instagram likes with questionable profile photos
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sknebel (photo comments, potentially avatar pictures, …)
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sketchess Good morning Loqi, good morning Indieweb.
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sketchess What is metadata?
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Loqi Metadata, specifically "descriptive metadata", is an umbrella term for all the different ways data (content) can be marked up or organized to facilitate machine-readability https://indieweb.org/metadata
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sketchess So it is a term?
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sketchess What is mircopub?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mircopub" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sketchess oh hahaha
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Loqi hehe
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sketchess What is micropub?
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Loqi Micropub is an open API standard (W3C Recommendation) that is used to create, update, and delete posts on one's own domain using third-party clients, and supersedes both MetaWeblog and AtomPub https://indieweb.org/Micropub
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sketchess What is microdata?
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Loqi Microdata is a more complex way of adding metadata to html than microformats https://indieweb.org/Microdata
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@sl007 #workshop https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? beim CAMPFIRE Festival http://campfirefestival.org #web #event #campfire #festival Kommt alle bei uns bei ! (twitter.com/_/status/898242412996329472)
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@sl007 ? CAMPFIRE Festival http://campfirefestival.org #workshop https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund #web #event #campfire #festival Kommt alle bei uns bei ! (twitter.com/_/status/898242702449545216)
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@sl007 https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE Festival #Dortmund – Seh ich Euch da? #workshop #web #event #campfire #festival Kommt alle bei uns bei! (twitter.com/_/status/898243523815911424)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@billbennettnz @davewiner I think I mentioned to you that @Chronotope was mulling something over along these lines: https://twitter.com/Chronotope/status/830097158665801728 I'm curious if there's a middle ground? The way" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-17 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/billbennettnz-davewiner-i-think-i-mentioned-to-you-that-chronotope
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Owning my audio clips" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-08-13 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/owning-my-audio-clips
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tantek good day #indieweb
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Loqi tantek: petermolnar left you a message 5 hours, 35 minutes ago: the fact that pgup and pgdown navigates away from your single post pages confuses me
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tantek I use(d) them from when I was using notes as slides, and the "clicker" I use was sending pgup/pgdown key events
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aaronpk ?
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tantek I agree it's annoying for longer posts
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tantek I need to figure out some compromise
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tantek hey aaronpk since you're here, do you have any prefs or ability to make it to IWC NYC / LA / SF dates? https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC
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aaronpk Add a query string parameter to enable that?
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tantek (at least indicate +0 vs -1 for dates you could make it vs not)
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tantek yeah that's an idea
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tantek or a new post type for slides
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aaronpk Probably can't pull off NYC, but might be able to make it to LA, and I'm pretty flexible in Nov/Dec
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[aarongustafson] BTW - Just updated my Jekyll plugin to support lookup throttling (useful for large sites that could take a while to build) https://github.com/aarongustafson/jekyll-webmention_io/pull/62
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Loqi [aarongustafson] #62 Throttle lookups
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