#indieweb 2017-09-06

2017-09-06 UTC
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@ChanceArthur Today I learned that there is actually a name for what I'm trying to accomplish. https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/905266586948440065)
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@ballpointcarrot So after my blog post on a DIY internet presence, I found that #indieweb is a thing: https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/905307791455383553)
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Zegnat Hey, when did Facebook go round-avatar on me?!
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sebsel wow, yeah. It is the end of silo-UI after all: once Twitter goes round, Facebook follows
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Zegnat Even the text input boxes have been rounded off
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Zegnat Oh, the like icon et al have been changed too? Guess it was time for them to do a refresh now that Twitter did :/
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Zegnat Round avatars, round comment box, and possibly new (crisper? thicker?) icons for like/comment/share. Screenshot incase it isn’t universally rolled out: https://imgur.com/GEKGDj5
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Ruxton it's been around at least a month like that, looks like it's startng to properly roll out now
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Loqi Ruxton: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 1 week, 4 days ago: Thanks for the detective work. I've got the code targeted on the back end and just need to do some thinking about what I'd prefer to happen so it doesn't interfere with other moving pieces.
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[kevinmarks] Facebook Messenger on android has had round avatars (that float over other apps) for ages
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Ruxton yea
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Zegnat I’ve never had the messenger heads enabled on my phone.
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Zegnat Ruxton, interesting, this is the first time I have noticed the change on the web. But Facebook is known for rolling things out over several months
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Ruxton yeah slow rollout and you're just seeing it
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[kevinmarks] The story clone thing at the top has had round for a while, to match instagram
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[kevinmarks] Now its circle in circle
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[kevinmarks] http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/through-the-round-window---suddenly-everything-is-circles-and
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Through the round window - suddenly everything is circles, and even circles on circles http://known.kevinmarks.com/file/4912842e309c5b8e1c581484a27ea0db/thumb.png
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Zegnat Messenger app has been rounded for a long time on my phone. This is just the first time I saw it on the actual website
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@sl007 HEUTE beginnt das http://campfirefestival.org !!! FR/SA : https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? Festival für Journalismus [jetzt no… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/905342799029129217 (twitter.com/_/status/905342799029129217)
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jjuran [kevinmarks]: If the circles get nested any deeper, they should just switch to ellipses ;-)
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[kevinmarks] Nested comments as epicycles?
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sebsel 100 minutes until Virtual HWC European time, join us on appear.in/hwc :D
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-09-06 5:28pm CEST (#6115)
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petermolnar anyone know anyone at smugmug and make them either mf2 compatible or to provide rss/atom?
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@dariusdunlap Austin area friends… Some good folks are starting a Homebrew Website Club. http://www.manton.org/2017/09/homebrew-website-club.html More info: https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/905446157555339264)
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petermolnar is anyone running services on a raspberry pi? (web, mail, etc) The last time I tried runnig a pi for regular, server-like load, I wore out the sd card surprisingly fast, and I'm wondering what the state is these days
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sknebel petermolnar: afaik Sebsel runs so me stuff in a pi, and i know a few other people who do.
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sebsel I have ZNC on a Pi, so this message ran through it ;)
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sknebel AFAIK it has gotten better with newer ones/newer firmware. And many have the SDcard read only and a USB drive attached
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sebsel No real webserver for me though.
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petermolnar the usb drives are not better at all
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petermolnar my 2GB sd cards from a decade ago are still alive and none of my pendrives are
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sknebel The pi-sdcard issues AFAIK were bad firmware doing things not properly
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sknebel Not actual wear out on the drives
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Loqi Virtual HWC European time, join us on appear.in/hwc :D
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Loqi Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-09-06 at 3:48pm CEST
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petermolnar I'm just going to stalk on vhwc
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sknebel I'll be a bit late
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petermolnar I once managed to run wordpress on a htc desire, with mysql and everything; it wasn't fast.
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sknebel E.g. I know someone who had a pi doing traffic analysis on his internet connection and that ran fine for at least a year, despite constantly logging data
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petermolnar but it was certainly fun.
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petermolnar sknebel that sounds promising
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petermolnar although it's not the writes, it's the re/overwrites which are the problem, mostly
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sknebel I can't join appear.in today it seems
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sknebel connection failures
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tantek sknebel - > #indieweb-meta
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@EFFaustin If you have interest in following the Indieweb project that we talked about at our last meetup, especially in... http://fb.me/28BOaCBek (twitter.com/_/status/905464579957952512)
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tantek nice
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GWG Hello
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tantek what is smugmug
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Loqi SmugMug is a paid service photo hosting silo https://indieweb.org/SmugMug
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@schmarty A brief update to the recent This Week in the #IndieWeb audio edition. HWC events today and tomorrow! https://martymcgui.re/2017/09/02/112010/ (twitter.com/_/status/905469454443724800)
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@schmarty A brief update to the most recent This Week in the #IndieWeb Audio Edition. HWC Austin today and Berlin tomorrow! https://martymcgui.re/2017/09/06/123128/ (twitter.com/_/status/905469776046112768)
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@huffduffer This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • Update for 2017-09-06 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/428723 (twitter.com/_/status/905470010394628096)
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GWG What new features can I implement in advance of my upcoming week long tour abroad? I keep moving toward check-ins but haven't gotten there yet. Maybe I might want to enhance photo posts...
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tantek GWG definitely fix icons/avatars first
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tantek more important than any new features
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tantek that's a pretty big regression
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GWG tantek, I agree, just that isn't a conversation.
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snarfed GWG: facepiles!!!
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GWG It is in development
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snarfed great! so if you have time this week, sounds like you could finish it!
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snarfed :P
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GWG snarfed, one condition. Start liking my posts
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snarfed wow, extortion
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GWG No, I need testing data
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snarfed aww you can always generate your own test data!
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snarfed if your dev cycle depends on other people, it's broken :P
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@kevinmarks updated my tweets archive: http://www.kevinmarks.com/tweets/ #ownyourdata #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/905476783494926337)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "updated my tweets archive: http://www.kevinmarks.com/tweets/ #ownyourdata #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-09-06 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/updated-my-tweets-archive-tweets-ownyourdata-indieweb
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sketchess Good morning Loqi, good morning Indieweb.
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[kevinmarks] give how verbose a single weight measurement is, I wonder what genomic data looks like in FHIR
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[kevinmarks] oops
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sketchess o.Ô
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sketchess Sweet dreams and a good morning Indieweb. Baba.
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@manton2 On today’s Timetable: the IndieWeb and why we’re having a Homebrew WebSite Club meetup in Austin tonight. http://timetable.manton.org/2017/09/episode-49-homebrew-website-club/ (twitter.com/_/status/905494185431715840)
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tantek whoa - what's a "Timetable"
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aaronpk that's his podcast!
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[manton] Yep, it's the name of my short-form podcast. 4-5 minutes long. (Trying to eventually do these once a day, but not there yet.)
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[manton] Also, slightly embarrassed that I somehow typed "WebSite" instead of "Website". Not sure how that happened.
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tantek manton - likely because you've been reading the WebSub spec :)
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[manton] Heh, maybe!
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tantek goes to listen
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tantek ooh "microcast"
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tantek I'm sensing theme here manton ;)
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[manton] Haha, indeed. ? I think there's a lot of potential for short podcasts that can be produced more easily by anyone, if the tools were better.
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Loqi nice
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aaronpk totally!
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tantek manton, sounds great in real speakers too
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[manton] I started this before launching my Kickstarter campaign, to try to document the everyday details of planning for it.
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tantek manton++ for Timetable
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Loqi manton has 21 karma in this channel (22 overall)
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Zegnat Wasn’t there a (or several?) social website Twitter-like-things that wanted to do soundbyte posts? Anyone remember that?
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tantek what is Odeo
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Odeo" yet. Would you like to create it?_
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tantek wow
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tantek goodness it's not on https://indieweb.org/site-deaths either
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tantek Zegnat, ironically, it's one of those websites (Odeo) which is a big part of the reason / circumstance that Twitter was invented
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tantek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odeo
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Loqi Odeo
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[manton] Funny to imagine if Odeo has been more successful, and they had become a massive centralized podcast platform and Twitter had fizzled out from neglect instead.
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[manton] (Or maybe never had been invented. I may be getting the timing slightly wrong.)
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tantek manton, possibly never had been invented
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tantek Twitter partially arose out of the meh around Odeo
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tantek then microblogging, statusnet etc. none of that
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[kevinmarks] Audioblog was the predecessor wasn't it?
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bdesham does anyone have examples of h-geo being used in the wild? (the wiki doesn't list any)
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tantek bdesham - good question - I think if it were, it would be inside something else possibly, not on its own
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tantek also totally good question for #indieweb-dev since it's markup/code related :)
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bdesham ah, didn't realize there was another channel for that!
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[kevinmarks] Audblog, that was noah glass's thing that predated odeo
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tantek bdesham - no prob - we've got a small handful now! indieweb.org/discuss
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tantek kevinmarks - yeah I think enwp.org/Odeo mentions that
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bdesham it seems like wikipedia's infoboxes are prime candidates to be marked up with microformats. has anyone tried this? and did it result in being banned from wikipedia? ;-)
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aaronpk many of them have microformats1 already
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bdesham or maybe it's microformats1 and I'm not as familiar with that
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bdesham ah
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bdesham why not both 1 and 2?
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bdesham no one's gotten around to it yet?
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[kevinmarks] it's TWiG time - give me things to mention
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[kevinmarks] HWC & IWC obviously, but what else?
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PFMurph The Wu-Tang Clan
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tantek more like the Web-Mention Clan
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tantek [kevinmarks]: the launch of HWC Austin in mere hours?
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[kevinmarks] yep
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @ballpointcarrot" by Scott Kingery on 2017-09-06 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-ballpointcarrot/
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sl007 sebsel - it took so long to setup the tent. Heavy rain in the middle. Maybe we could check livestreaming tomorrow. Aeham Ahmad gave a concert for opening, the piano player who became famous in the debris of Syria. Showed some pictures from the climate refugee story.
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sebsel sl007 Okay! I'll be around tomorrow. Have fun on the first evening :)
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@manton2 Found extra https://micro.blog/ stickers to bring to Homebrew Website Club tonight. We’ll need to get IndieWeb stickers next time. (twitter.com/_/status/905558950191521792)
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@keithjgrant @manton2 Ooh. I'm doing an indieweb talk in a few weeks. Anywhere I can order some stickers to give out? (twitter.com/_/status/905576610606276608)
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tantek aaronpk ^^^
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@aaronpk @keithjgrant @manton2 I can send you some or you can order directly from Stickermule: http://indieweb.org/swag#Stickers (twitter.com/_/status/905577508636049408)
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