#indieweb 2017-09-06

2017-09-06 UTC
EmreSoku_, wolftune, IndiePad10, KevinMarks, IndiePad11, IndiePad12, IndiePad13, davidmead, IndiePad14, IndiePad15, IndiePad16, IndiePad17, IndiePad18, snarfed, IndiePad19, JohnBeales, IndiePad20, IndiePad21, IndiePad22, eli_oat, IndiePad23, IndiePad24, IndiePad25 and IndiePad26 joined the channel
#
@ChanceArthur
Today I learned that there is actually a name for what I'm trying to accomplish. https://indieweb.org/POSSE
(twtr.io/1VpiQg_AB7k)
tantek, IndiePad27, IndiePad28, ben_thatmustbeme, IndiePad29, wolftune, IndiePad30, IndiePad31, IndiePad32, IndiePad33, IndiePad34, [colinwalker], IndiePad35, IndiePad36, snarfed, IndiePad37, IndiePad38, tbbrown, IndiePad39, IndiePad40, barpthewire, IndiePad41 and IndiePad42 joined the channel
#
@ballpointcarrot
So after my blog post on a DIY internet presence, I found that #indieweb is a thing: https://indieweb.org
(twtr.io/1Vpy7quGQKD)
IndiePad43, IndiePad44, tantek, IndiePad45, IndiePad46, IndiePad47, IndiePad48 and IndiePad49 joined the channel
#
Zegnat
Hey, when did Facebook go round-avatar on me?!
tantek, IndiePad50, sl007 and IndiePad51 joined the channel
#
sebsel
wow, yeah. It is the end of silo-UI after all: once Twitter goes round, Facebook follows
#
Zegnat
Even the text input boxes have been rounded off
#
Zegnat
Oh, the like icon et al have been changed too? Guess it was time for them to do a refresh now that Twitter did :/
#
Zegnat
Round avatars, round comment box, and possibly new (crisper? thicker?) icons for like/comment/share. Screenshot incase it isn’t universally rolled out: https://imgur.com/GEKGDj5
#
Ruxton
it's been around at least a month like that, looks like it's startng to properly roll out now
#
Loqi
Ruxton: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 1 week, 4 days ago: Thanks for the detective work. I've got the code targeted on the back end and just need to do some thinking about what I'd prefer to happen so it doesn't interfere with other moving pieces.
[kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks]
Facebook Messenger on android has had round avatars (that float over other apps) for ages
#
Zegnat
I’ve never had the messenger heads enabled on my phone.
#
Zegnat
Ruxton, interesting, this is the first time I have noticed the change on the web. But Facebook is known for rolling things out over several months
#
Ruxton
yeah slow rollout and you're just seeing it
#
[kevinmarks]
The story clone thing at the top has had round for a while, to match instagram
#
[kevinmarks]
Now its circle in circle
#
Loqi
[Kevin Marks] Through the round window - suddenly everything is circles, and even circles on circles http://known.kevinmarks.com/file/4912842e309c5b8e1c581484a27ea0db/thumb.png
#
Zegnat
Messenger app has been rounded for a long time on my phone. This is just the first time I saw it on the actual website
#
jjuran
[kevinmarks]: If the circles get nested any deeper, they should just switch to ellipses ;-)
Pierre-O, [pfefferle], EmreSoku_, [colinwalker], KevinMarks and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks]
Nested comments as epicycles?
tantek, friedcell, renem, Rev_Illo, KevinMarks, davidmead, kants, rhiaro, eli_oat, IndiePad1 and KevinMarks_ joined the channel
#
sebsel
100 minutes until Virtual HWC European time, join us on appear.in/hwc :D
#
Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-09-06 5:28pm CEST (#6115)
#
petermolnar
anyone know anyone at smugmug and make them either mf2 compatible or to provide rss/atom?
KevinMarks, Erkan_Yilmaz, [colinwalker], snarfed, tbbrown, tbbrown_ and jeremycherfas joined the channel
#
@dariusdunlap
Austin area friends… Some good folks are starting a Homebrew Website Club. http://www.manton.org/2017/09/homebrew-website-club.html More info: https://indieweb.org
(twtr.io/1VqnZWqsVnj)
renem joined the channel
#
petermolnar
is anyone running services on a raspberry pi? (web, mail, etc) The last time I tried runnig a pi for regular, server-like load, I wore out the sd card surprisingly fast, and I'm wondering what the state is these days
wolftune joined the channel
#
sknebel
petermolnar: afaik Sebsel runs so me stuff in a pi, and i know a few other people who do.
#
sebsel
I have ZNC on a Pi, so this message ran through it ;)
#
sknebel
AFAIK it has gotten better with newer ones/newer firmware. And many have the SDcard read only and a USB drive attached
#
sebsel
No real webserver for me though.
#
petermolnar
the usb drives are not better at all
#
petermolnar
my 2GB sd cards from a decade ago are still alive and none of my pendrives are
jmelesky joined the channel
#
sknebel
The pi-sdcard issues AFAIK were bad firmware doing things not properly
#
sknebel
Not actual wear out on the drives
#
Loqi
Virtual HWC European time, join us on appear.in/hwc :D
#
Loqi
Countdown set by sebsel on 2017-09-06 at 3:48pm CEST
#
petermolnar
I'm just going to stalk on vhwc
#
sknebel
I'll be a bit late
#
petermolnar
I once managed to run wordpress on a htc desire, with mysql and everything; it wasn't fast.
#
sknebel
E.g. I know someone who had a pi doing traffic analysis on his internet connection and that ran fine for at least a year, despite constantly logging data
#
petermolnar
but it was certainly fun.
#
petermolnar
sknebel that sounds promising
#
petermolnar
although it's not the writes, it's the re/overwrites which are the problem, mostly
[colinwalker], tantek, wolftune and JohnBeales joined the channel
#
sknebel
I can't join appear.in today it seems
#
sknebel
connection failures
#
tantek
sknebel - > #indieweb-meta
[kevinmarks], John_Duh and friedcell joined the channel
#
@EFFaustin
If you have interest in following the Indieweb project that we talked about at our last meetup, especially in... http://fb.me/28BOaCBek
(twtr.io/1Vqu8NCZV1s)
#
GWG
Hello
KartikPrabhu, dougbeal|iOS, tantek and snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek
what is smugmug
#
Loqi
SmugMug is a paid service photo hosting silo https://indieweb.org/SmugMug
#
@schmarty
A brief update to the recent This Week in the #IndieWeb audio edition. HWC events today and tomorrow! https://martymcgui.re/2017/09/02/112010/
(twtr.io/1VqvsqqHEf0)
#
@schmarty
A brief update to the most recent This Week in the #IndieWeb Audio Edition. HWC Austin today and Berlin tomorrow! https://martymcgui.re/2017/09/06/123128/
(twtr.io/1VqvzjRHBKU)
#
@huffduffer
This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • Update for 2017-09-06 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/428723
(twtr.io/1Vqw4knj18G)
KevinMarks_ joined the channel
#
GWG
What new features can I implement in advance of my upcoming week long tour abroad? I keep moving toward check-ins but haven't gotten there yet. Maybe I might want to enhance photo posts...
#
tantek
GWG definitely fix icons/avatars first
#
tantek
more important than any new features
#
tantek
that's a pretty big regression
#
GWG
tantek, I agree, just that isn't a conversation.
eli_oat1, KevinMarks and jeremych_ joined the channel
#
snarfed
GWG: facepiles!!!
#
GWG
It is in development
#
snarfed
great! so if you have time this week, sounds like you could finish it!
#
GWG
snarfed, one condition. Start liking my posts
#
snarfed
wow, extortion
#
GWG
No, I need testing data
#
snarfed
aww you can always generate your own test data!
#
snarfed
if your dev cycle depends on other people, it's broken :P
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
@kevinmarks
updated my tweets archive: http://www.kevinmarks.com/tweets/ #ownyourdata #indieweb
(twtr.io/1VqyVw3Vqdx)
#
Loqi
[superfeedr] "updated my tweets archive: http://www.kevinmarks.com/tweets/ #ownyourdata #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-09-06 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/updated-my-tweets-archive-tweets-ownyourdata-indieweb
eli_oat, calumryan, jeremycherfas and sketchess joined the channel
#
sketchess
Good morning Loqi, good morning Indieweb.
calumryan and friedcell joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks]
give how verbose a single weight measurement is, I wonder what genomic data looks like in FHIR
#
sketchess
o.Ô
jeremych_, JohnBeales and friedcell joined the channel
#
sketchess
Sweet dreams and a good morning Indieweb. Baba.
#
@manton2
On today’s Timetable: the IndieWeb and why we’re having a Homebrew WebSite Club meetup in Austin tonight. http://timetable.manton.org/2017/09/episode-49-homebrew-website-club/
(twtr.io/1Vr4hv5Y140)
#
tantek
whoa - what's a "Timetable"
#
aaronpk
that's his podcast!
KevinMarks and [manton] joined the channel
#
[manton]
Yep, it's the name of my short-form podcast. 4-5 minutes long. (Trying to eventually do these once a day, but not there yet.)
#
[manton]
Also, slightly embarrassed that I somehow typed "WebSite" instead of "Website". Not sure how that happened.
#
tantek
manton - likely because you've been reading the WebSub spec :)
#
[manton]
Heh, maybe!
friedcell joined the channel
#
tantek
goes to listen
#
tantek
ooh "microcast"
#
tantek
I'm sensing theme here manton ;)
#
[manton]
Haha, indeed. ? I think there's a lot of potential for short podcasts that can be produced more easily by anyone, if the tools were better.
#
Loqi
nice
#
aaronpk
totally!
#
tantek
manton, sounds great in real speakers too
#
[manton]
I started this before launching my Kickstarter campaign, to try to document the everyday details of planning for it.
#
tantek
manton++ for Timetable
#
Loqi
manton has 21 karma in this channel (22 overall)
#
Zegnat
Wasn’t there a (or several?) social website Twitter-like-things that wanted to do soundbyte posts? Anyone remember that?
#
tantek
what is Odeo
#
Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Odeo" yet. Would you like to create it?_
friedcell joined the channel
#
tantek
goodness it's not on https://indieweb.org/site-deaths either
#
tantek
Zegnat, ironically, it's one of those websites (Odeo) which is a big part of the reason / circumstance that Twitter was invented
#
Loqi
Odeo
#
[manton]
Funny to imagine if Odeo has been more successful, and they had become a massive centralized podcast platform and Twitter had fizzled out from neglect instead.
#
[manton]
(Or maybe never had been invented. I may be getting the timing slightly wrong.)
#
tantek
manton, possibly never had been invented
#
tantek
Twitter partially arose out of the meh around Odeo
#
tantek
then microblogging, statusnet etc. none of that
KevinMarks and gigitux joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks]
Audioblog was the predecessor wasn't it?
#
bdesham
does anyone have examples of h-geo being used in the wild? (the wiki doesn't list any)
#
tantek
bdesham - good question - I think if it were, it would be inside something else possibly, not on its own
#
tantek
also totally good question for #indieweb-dev since it's markup/code related :)
#
bdesham
ah, didn't realize there was another channel for that!
#
[kevinmarks]
Audblog, that was noah glass's thing that predated odeo
#
tantek
bdesham - no prob - we've got a small handful now! indieweb.org/discuss
#
tantek
kevinmarks - yeah I think enwp.org/Odeo mentions that
#
bdesham
it seems like wikipedia's infoboxes are prime candidates to be marked up with microformats. has anyone tried this? and did it result in being banned from wikipedia? ;-)
#
aaronpk
many of them have microformats1 already
#
bdesham
or maybe it's microformats1 and I'm not as familiar with that
#
bdesham
ah
#
bdesham
why not both 1 and 2?
#
bdesham
no one's gotten around to it yet?
XgF, wolftune, gigitux, KevinMarks, friedcell, JohnBeales and Guest47171 joined the channel
#
[kevinmarks]
it's TWiG time - give me things to mention
#
[kevinmarks]
HWC & IWC obviously, but what else?
#
PFMurph
The Wu-Tang Clan
Erkan_Yilmaz, JohnBeales, wolftune and snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek
more like the Web-Mention Clan
#
tantek
[kevinmarks]: the launch of HWC Austin in mere hours?
KevinMarks, calumryan, tbbrown and sl007 joined the channel
#
Loqi
[superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @ballpointcarrot" by Scott Kingery on 2017-09-06 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-ballpointcarrot/
renem joined the channel
#
sl007
sebsel - it took so long to setup the tent. Heavy rain in the middle. Maybe we could check livestreaming tomorrow. Aeham Ahmad gave a concert for opening, the piano player who became famous in the debris of Syria. Showed some pictures from the climate refugee story.
#
sebsel
sl007 Okay! I'll be around tomorrow. Have fun on the first evening :)
wolftune, JohnBeales, tantek, eli_oat, KevinMarks and snarfed joined the channel
#
@manton2
Found extra https://micro.blog/ stickers to bring to Homebrew Website Club tonight. We’ll need to get IndieWeb stickers next time.
(twtr.io/1VrTr36NyGY)
[kevinmarks], KevinMarks, JohnBeales, tbbrown, John_Duh and j12t joined the channel
#
@keithjgrant
@manton2 Ooh. I'm doing an indieweb talk in a few weeks. Anywhere I can order some stickers to give out?
(twtr.io/1Vr_9_YhPW8)
#
tantek
aaronpk ^^^
#
@aaronpk
@keithjgrant @manton2 I can send you some or you can order directly from Stickermule: http://indieweb.org/swag#Stickers
(twtr.io/1Vr_UpR7dA8)
KevinMarks and eli_oat joined the channel