#indieweb 2017-09-29

2017-09-29 UTC
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oodani Hi, is there any recommended server software for personal sites that *isn't* based on PHP? Known and WordPress both are, and I'd prefer basically any other language if possible. Would a static site generator like Jekyll work? I get the impression that static sites have a lot more trouble supporting micropub and webmentions.
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[miklb] each have their own set of hurdles, but there is definitely some examples of static sites.
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[miklb] What is static sites
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Loqi A static site is a website that is served by a web server directly from the file system https://indieweb.org/static_sites
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oodani Hmm. I'll be hosting from a VPS so it'll probably be easier just to host a dynamic site to begin wtih.
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[miklb] When I used Jekyll, I kept the repo on GitHub but used Travis CI to deploy to my VPS so I could use https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github
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Loqi [voxpelli] webpage-micropub-to-github: Self-hosteable Micropub endpoint that publishes to Jekyll by committing to GitHub
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[miklb] Travis also allowed me to build with plugins for webmentions
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[miklb] I haven’t tested Known to know how easy it is to set up and get going. WordPress has a lot of plugins to get started if you want to just jump in.
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oodani Yeah, that'd work. Hmm. What're you using now, if not still Jekyll?
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[miklb] I switched to WordPress, but am (slowly) in process of building some satellite sites in Jekyll.
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[miklb] So my WP site will be a true public social profile, and my “blogging” will be compartmentalized on their own sites.
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[miklb] this is my jekyll project. I’m working on switching to a CSS framework for a 2.0 version of sorts https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb
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Loqi [miklb] jekyll-indieweb: A Jekyll quick start to getting up and going with the IndieWeb
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[miklb] Another approach to Jekyll/Travis/Webmentions that is really solid https://herestomwiththeweather.com/2017/06/19/sending-webmentions-from-travis-ci-using-jekyll-indieweb-on-netlify/
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Loqi [Tom] Sending webmentions from Travis CI using Jekyll-Indieweb on Netlify
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oodani Cool. Hmm.
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[miklb] didn’t mean to throw too much out there
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oodani Hehe, all good. :)
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[keithjgrant] I wonder is there's anything like that for Hugo. I've been thinking about switching to Netlify to do my site builds
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oodani https://indieweb.org/nanopub There's this, it apparently doesn't actually run Hugo after saving the new content though. ?
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skippy here's my Hugo automation for skippy.is: https://github.com/skpy/hugo-skippy.is i've been cogitating on ways to add webmention and micropub support.
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Loqi [skpy] hugo-skippy.is: The scripts used to make skippy.is work
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skippy see also: https://skippy.net/hugo/
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Loqi hugo
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-09-29.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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sebsel [grandcodes] snarfed: On Twitter, likes actually have a permalink! If you post a like via Quill and link up your Twitter, Quill will like the tweet for you. The outcome of that action is the like permalink, and it's added as syndication :)
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sebsel But it's hard to find that link after you've done the action.
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sebsel See https://seblog.nl/2017/09/15/3/like which is syndicated to https://twitter.com/Sebsel/status/908589323871821824 which redirects to the original tweet.
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@TerribleMaps Antarctica, the confusing continent. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJv1EP4XkAA1mwe.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/908589323871821824)
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Seb vindt een foto van Terrible Maps leuk.
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sebsel Technically that's PESOS, ofcourse, but it's milliseconds.
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sebsel Hmm, nevermind me, it seems like that is just de ID of the original tweet with my own username in between. :/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Anyone want to join me for an impromptu BoF/hallway session on #IndieWeb technologies with @WordPress at #WCLAX this weekend? #ownyourdata" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-09-29 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/anyone-want-to-join-me-for-an-impromptu-bofhallway-session
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@ChrisAldrich Anyone want to join me for an impromptu BoF/hallway session on #IndieWeb technologies with @WordPress at #WCLAX this weekend? #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/913675689127059456)
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@firatdemirel “IndieWebCamp 2017 by @EmreSokullu https://medium.com/@emresokullu/indiewebcamp-2017-5e29b92056b3 Yarın orada olmaya çalışacağım. (twitter.com/_/status/913682841464131585)
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petermolnar is anyone aware of any bookmark manager service which digs up archive.org version of bookmarks and accepts mass import? I'm willing to pay.
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petermolnar oh, and which has an API
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cweiske I always wanted to add archive.org support to semanticscuttle, but never got around to do that
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cweiske ss has an api
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petermolnar sourceforge?!
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cweiske that project is old :)
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cweiske I am the maintainer
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cweiske but didn't do anything since years
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cweiske apart from using it on my home server
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petermolnar demo disabled, docs not found, these are'nt good signs
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petermolnar any idea good this could be? https://historio.us
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cweiske what do you mean by "docs not found"?
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petermolnar huh
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petermolnar glitch
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petermolnar it's there now
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petermolnar ok, the first hit is 404, the second is fine
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cweiske sf server problem I think
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petermolnar looks like, yes
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petermolnar meh, I'll stick to my solution for now
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@sebastiangreger Thu 5.10. 19:00: 15th Homebrew Website Club Berlin - this time: "hands-on hacking"; new location in Moabit #Indieweb http://sebastiangreger.net/2017/09/homebrew-website-club-berlin-15-on-5-oct-2017/ (twitter.com/_/status/913721223686840320)
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dgold anyone know if woodwind requires a particular version of Redis-server?
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snarfed dgold: https://github.com/kylewm/woodwind/blob/master/requirements.txt#L28 says 2.10.5, at least for the client lib
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dgold ack
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dgold woodwind has a _lot_ of requirements not reflected in the docs
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dgold 'sall good tho
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dgold oh, incidentally, snarfed, I can't get my head around activityStream/Pub at all
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[kevinmarks] can you do PR to update the docs?
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dgold i'm documenting the requirements as I go, [kevinmarks]
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dgold so, hopefully, I can do that
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dgold eek - few setup errors there while I was over here
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dgold just realised I'm documenting this as a debian installation - need to check the names of the requirements in other environments
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Twitter is lying to you “Make an exit plan. I really want out of this ecosystem.” https://pushpullfork.com/twitter-is-lying-to-you #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-09-29 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/twitter-is-lying-to-you-make-an-exit-plan-i
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@kevinmarks Twitter is lying to you “Make an exit plan. I really want out of this ecosystem.” https://pushpullfork.com/twitter-is-lying-to-you #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/913784090259726336)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Agreed - the indieweb way is to post on your own site and share it out to the silos where other people are too" by Kevin Marks on 2017-09-29 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/agreed---the-indieweb-way-is-to-post-on-your
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dgold can't get woodwond to install at all
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dgold failing on int_db.py
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dgold init
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@kevinmarks @tezcatlipoca Agreed - the indieweb way is to post on your own site and share it out to the silos where other people are too (twitter.com/_/status/913791216692506624)
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@kevinmarks @cramforce @_developit Previously http://tantek.com/2011/238/b1/many-ways-slice-url-name-pieces - naming things is hard #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/913789819037392897)
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dgold has anyone installed woodwind recently?
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[kevinmarks] I spun up an instance on Google cloud last year. Which I should probably spin down again.
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@kevinmarks @artsyhonker For indieweb we use an irc/web/slack/matrix bridge https://indieweb.org/irc/today (twitter.com/_/status/913802008326533122)
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artsyhonker Okay, I'm not entirely certain how this works.
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@krisshaffer I'm *really* tired of indieweb advocates indie-splaining freedom and what's social/antisocial to me. (twitter.com/_/status/913801036644732928)
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@PercolatorToday Episode 3: Thinking about how I want to follow people on the #IndieWeb. https://percolator.today/episode/3 (twitter.com/_/status/913800403044638720)
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tantek welcome artsyhonker !
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artsyhonker Thank you tantek :-)
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artsyhonker Afraid I can't stay long at the moment as I'm meant to be working
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tantek no problem - come back when it's convenient or catch up on the logs at chat.indieweb.org
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[kevinmarks] Hi artsyhonker - we try to keep this channel a bit less technical, but if you have questions do ask
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tantek artsyhonker: you may also want to subscribe to the weekly newsletter for summaries: indieweb.org/this-week
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@kevinmarks @krisshaffer Sorry if what I said came across that way. Plurality is an indieweb principle, and it is twitter's relentless notification that spoils it (twitter.com/_/status/913805284371509248)
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tantek makes a note to perhaps expand on the apologizing bit in code of conduct
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tantek s/sorry if/sorry
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artsyhonker OK, that's another task done. Oof. Anyone else here trying to finish up lots of work before the weekend starts?
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GWG Sort of
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artsyhonker I'm sending some music to a colleague and then trying to get a commission competition application done, then finally finished
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artsyhonker (I'm a choral composer, and overscheduled myself this week...)
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aaronpk is looking forward to at least partially remotely attending indiewebcamp NYC this weekend
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GWG aaronpk: I envy you.
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GWG Someone record it
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artsyhonker This weekend I will be at An Undisclosed Location, mostly offline, spending time with my spouse for our 4th wedding anniversary.
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artsyhonker So I really want to have my work done so I'm not preoccupied.
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@manton2 We’re meeting at Monkey Nest again next Wednesday for Homebrew Website Club. 6:30pm. Planning is underway for an IndieWebCamp in Austin! (twitter.com/_/status/913817861621211136)
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tantek manton++ awesome!
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Loqi manton has 22 karma in this channel (23 overall)
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[manton] We've settled on first Wednesday of each month, as the group is just getting started. Also matches Portland's schedule, I think.
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dgold i've wrassled woodwind through to the last stage in the instructions - going to :3000, but I get bupkes
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tantek manton, indeed that's Portland's schedule https://indieweb.org/hwc#Portland
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tantek want to update Austin there accordingly? https://indieweb.org/hwc#Austin
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aaronpk Portland is first wednesday with a few exceptions
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/hwcpdx
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[manton] tantek Sure, I'll update it.
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artsyhonker Botheration. Cannot enter competition because it's snailmail entry and I ddn't realise and the (extended) deadline is tomorrow.
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artsyhonker Soooooo I guess that's my work done for this week
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dgold i... got it to work
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Getting Technical" by David Shanske on 2017-09-29 https://david.shanske.com/2017/09/29/getting-technical/
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GWG I've taken over a second blog to talk tech.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @kevinmarks" by Scott Kingery on 2017-09-29 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-kevinmarks-2/
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-09-29.html
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@sl007 T - 1 DAY https://indieweb.org/2017/Istanbul https://indieweb.org/2017/NYC (twitter.com/_/status/913864766661197824)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Been waiting a while for the homemade sauercraut to finish fermenting…" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-09-29 http://boffosocko.com/2017/09/29/been-waiting-a-while-for-the-homemade-sauercraut-to-finish-fermenting/
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-09-29.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-09-29.html (twitter.com/_/status/913889882862264320)
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@kevinmarks "A hashtag is incapable of being sued" #indieweb https://twitter.com/adamsteinbaugh/status/913553485672714240 (twitter.com/_/status/913911846368874496)
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[tantek] That's worth adding to enwp.org/hashtag if someone hasn't already.
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