#indieweb 2017-10-10

2017-10-10 UTC
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ludovicchabant I had a small amount of users back when the first version was in Php (~250 stars on github) but since I ported it to Python for version 2 I haven’t done much advertising
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gRegorLove PieCrust is a fun CMS name
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sknebel Sebsel++ good post on likes/bookmarks!
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Loqi sebsel has 27 karma in this channel (49 overall)
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sknebel (Although I didn't get a webmention notification for it... Gotta investigate that later)
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sknebel !tell sebsel I do not seem to have received a webmention for your post, did you send one/how?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas Hello IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning jeremycherfas
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rMdes_ !tell jeremycherfas it seems feedbro staff is active on reddit : https://www.reddit.com/user/feedbro/ maybe they could reply to your question.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas Thanks rMdes_ If I ever become unhappy with Newsblur I'll consider switching, but until then I'll just make a note of feedbro as one alternative to look at.
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Loqi jeremycherfas: rMdes_ left you a message 1 minute ago: it seems feedbro staff is active on reddit : https://www.reddit.com/user/feedbro/ maybe they could reply to your question.
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cweiske .
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snarfed aaronpk++ congrats on overland in the app store!
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Loqi aaronpk has 526 karma in this channel (1443 overall)
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snarfed aaronpk: re the backend req't, have you considered adding the option to store in dropbox, google drive, etc.?
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snarfed i don't know the details, but seems doable as long as they let you append to files...?
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snarfed (i'm a big fan of that unhosted style, at least when you don't need sophisticated querying, transactions, etc)
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sknebel What is feedbro?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "feedbro" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel Feedbro is http://nodetics.com/feedbro/, a local feed reader implemented as a browser extension for Firefox and Chrome/Vivaldi.
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk snarfed: interesting idea. that'd take a lot of work on the app side though to use the Dropbox/Google APIs.
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snarfed sure! some, at least
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sknebel aaronpk: dropbox-backed media endpoint as a service?
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aaronpk heh
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sknebel (also, found a telegraph bug, github issue is filed)
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aaronpk saw that, thanks
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snarfed obligatory: https://unhosted.org/
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aaronpk the app doesn't really work with the concept of "files", so it'd be a bit of a shift in how it treats the data
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sknebel I wonder how e-mail fares for stuff like this? but I bet if you send your users daily emails with attachments you get marked as spam all the time
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snarfed ahhh ok. if it's currently db-backed, not flat file, then agreed
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aaronpk well the app essentially has a queue of all the data, but it's treated as continuous data
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aaronpk each record is sent to the server and is deleted from the phone when the server acknowledges it's been received
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snarfed yeah, hence my comment on append support
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aaronpk could maybe do a file per day, but then crossing timezones is always a trick
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aaronpk i guess one obvious thing would be to have it write a file for each "trip" created in the app. wouldn't be continuous logging but it'd be something.
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snarfed or at a size or # of records threshold
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snarfed agreed though, nontrivial
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aaronpk hm dropbox api doesn't have the concept of "append"
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snarfed aww
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aaronpk i wish there was a generic version of this API I could use instead of tying it to dropbox specifically
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snarfed aaronpk: https://snarfed.org/2011-12-31_unhosted_decoupling_web_apps_from_storage_providers#remoteStorage
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Unhosted: decoupling web apps from storage providers
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snarfed browser only/mainly though i guess
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snarfed also http://hood.ie/ , but same limitation
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petermolnar !tell sebsel: I'm in the middle of rethinking likes and bookmarks, I ended up with the following: if it's a platform and offers anything that resembles a like, I'll sign up and "properly" like it, than backfeed/pesos it to my site, and if it doesn't, it's a bookmark
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel for apps there's https://cloudrail.com/integrations/interfaces/CloudStorage (haven't used it, so no idea if good or not)
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[stefp] ?‍♀️Hello
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[stefp] Not sure where those icons came from but anyway… is there someone who can help me with an OwnYourSwarm error?
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aaronpk sure
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[stefp] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F7FF1J4HE/screen_shot_2017-10-10_at_17.01.27.png?pub_secret=8f6ef230c2&name=Screen Shot 2017-10-10 at 17.01.27.png
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[stefp] Thanks. When I use the Simple option I’m getting the error in this image where”h” points to a page on my site that doesn’t exist.
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aaronpk what's your server? wordpress?
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[stefp] Sorry. Yes, Wordpress.
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aaronpk latest version of the Micropub plugin?
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[stefp] yes. all up to date through wordpress admin.
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aaronpk i think that plugin supports the better JSON micropub version. is there a reason you wanted the "simple" one?
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[stefp] I chose simple because it uploaded photos. The JSON option does work but doesn’t upload my photos. Is it supposed to?
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aaronpk aha, no with the JSON option the wordpress plugin would have to download a copy of the photo itself. I'm not sure if it does that yet.
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aaronpk if i'm reading this right, the wordpress plugin has special handling for the "checkin" property but it expects a JSON request in that case.
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[stefp] Okay thanks. I guess I could just manually add the photo in afterwards.
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GWG Afternoon campers
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sknebel good afternoon GWG
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GWG What is new in your camp?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "new in your camp" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel hunted missing webmentions today, partially successful, and fixed some things I broke when blindly updating Debian on my server
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GWG I have a bunch of homepage mentions that I need to design a way of better displaying.
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sknebel oh, interesting problem. I still haven't gotten around to implementing webmention display at all, so not much help there ;)
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GWG I just need to sit down with it. Other issues first
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gRegorLove new in your camp is /itches
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tantek what are itches?
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Loqi Itches, in the context of the indieweb, are individuals's personal sources of annoyances using the web or in particular their own website, that they use to itemize and prioritize what to create, design, build, and improve on their own website, often by first listing such "itches" on a section in their User: https://indieweb.org/itches
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@martinlindner @schulte_stef @marcelweiss @TiniDo er hat auch fürs #indieweb agitiert. im buch zitiere ich breit seinen obesity-vortrag. (twitter.com/_/status/917829829130702858)
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Zegnat Hellow IndieWeb
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tantek hello Zegnat
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@HeNeArXn @homebrewbrum @paul_tibbetts @marcjenkins @daveredfern hey guys, is HomebrewWebsiteClub Birmingham still a thing? (editing the event list on the indieweb wiki, want to make sure we're not forgetting to include you if it's still going) (twitter.com/_/status/917846313731002368)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Why Facebook is in a hole over data mining | John Naughton" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-08 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/08/facebook-zuckerberg-in-a-hole-data-mining-business-model
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Loqi [superfeedr] "YouTube Demonetization: The Great Platform Problem" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-06 https://tedium.co/2017/09/06/youtube-demonetization-problem/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I just submitted a talk on IndieWeb for WordPress for consideration at the upcoming inaugural WordCamp Riverside. I ran out of time to finish off the details for WordCamp Los Angeles due to my recent move, so I’m glad I still might be able to do it before the end of the year." by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-10 http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/10/indieweb-for-wordpress-for-wordcamp-riverside/
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@ChrisAldrich I just submitted a talk on #IndieWeb for @WordPress for the upcoming inaugural @WordCampRS Riverside. #WCRS http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/10/indieweb-for-wordpress-for-wordcamp-riverside/ (twitter.com/_/status/917876225346957312)
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