#indieweb 2017-10-13

2017-10-13 UTC
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@kevinmarks @michaelgorsuch @estoner head on over to http://indieweb.org - you want websub for the updates, webmention for the replies and micropub for the posting. (twitter.com/_/status/918635573979566080)
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tantek wow that's a long and windy thread
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/918650396893110272
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@kevinmarks It's not something that Twitter advertise, but they do have a built-in Nazi-blocking filter: http://www.kevinmarks.com/twitternazifilter.html (twitter.com/_/status/918650396893110272)
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@kevinmarks @daeaves @Twitter This is a reason for thinking in #indieweb terms - write things on your own site, and use twitter to reach others with them (twitter.com/_/status/918654463904239616)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "In support of #WomenBoycottTwitter I'm not posting on Twitter on Friday (US time) https://twitter.com/justkelly_ok/status/918492384488493056 but on my own site instead. I may crosspost the posts" by Kevin Marks on 2017-10-13 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/in-support-of-womenboycotttwitter-im-not-posting-on-twitter-on
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@keithjgrant @mirisuzanne Yes! They're a vital part of the IndieWeb & new W3C standards. I did a talk on it last month ☺️ https://www.recallact.com/presentation/decentralized-social-web (twitter.com/_/status/918659693186297857)
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@ScalaWilliam #indieweb: Design. https://indieweb.org/design (twitter.com/_/status/918680211117322240)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-13.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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Loqi [superfeedr] "? The Decentralized Social Web by Keith J. Grant" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-13 http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/12/the-decentralized-social-web-by-keith-j-grant/
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aaronpk hm that video isn't there
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "? The Decentralized Social Web by Keith J. Grant" https://www.recallact.com/presentation/decentralized-social-web (from http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/12/the-decentralized-social-web-by-keith-j-grant/)
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[chrisaldrich] Apparently it's embargod by vimeo... you can click one of the other links to open it
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[chrisaldrich] It'll play at https://www.recallact.com/presentation/decentralized-social-web
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aaronpk huh i couldn't even get to it on vimeo.com
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aaronpk it should be at https://vimeo.com/237349014
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Media companies should own their websites + audience relationships. #indieweb, I want to see your applications. https://matter.vc/apply" by Ben Werdmüller on 2017-10-11 https://werd.io/2017/media-companies-should-own-their-websites-audience-relationships-indieweb-i
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tantek finally found the top of that thread https://twitter.com/estoner/status/918609048471183360
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@estoner I’m fairly sure we could replace all the important bits of Twitter & Facebook with some listservs and a timeline-style email client. (twitter.com/_/status/918609048471183360)
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[shurcool] I added IndieWeb Examples and Software sections to https://indieweb.org/issue_tracker page.
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[shurcool] tried to follow the same format/template as I saw on other pages
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aaronpk shurcool++ nice
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Loqi shurcool has 2 karma in this channel (3 overall)
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk, I could get that vimeo video to play in a standalone window, but for paying clients, they have a blocking mechanism that prevents one from embedding it on non-approved websites... ie mine, the slack channel, etc.
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aaronpk weird, maybe they cookied me since I first came to it from the embed
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Using Facepiles in Comments for WordPress with Webmentions and Semantic Linkbacks" http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/06/using-facepiles-in-comments-for-wordpress-with-webmentions-and-semantic-linkbacks/
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@billbennettnz Thinking about bookmarks and likes on the IndieWeb | Seblog https://seblog.nl/2017/10/09/9/bookmarks-and-likes (twitter.com/_/status/918701013044887552)
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@sebastiangreger Thu 19.10. 19:00: After cancel bc of storm last wk, #Indieweb Homebrew Website Club Berlin "Hands on"-meetup is on! http://sebastiangreger.net/2017/10/homebrew-website-club-berlin-15-on-19-oct-2017/ (twitter.com/_/status/918726997211336709)
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Ruxton hell yess, someone put an access point in range of the park and it's a lovely day outside - https://ignite.digitalignition.net/p/Syd
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Loqi [Ruxton] #97118 https://ignite.digitalignition.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/cropped-MG_0228.jpg
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petermolnar webcam << http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/patient-zero-of-the-selfie-age-why-jennicam-abandoned-her-digital-life/news-story/539cd1b26016fcee1a51cfca3895a7b5
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Loqi ok, I added "http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/patient-zero-of-the-selfie-age-why-jennicam-abandoned-her-digital-life/news-story/539cd1b26016fcee1a51cfca3895a7b5" to the "See Also" section of /webcam
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Zegnat Hmm, IoT warning labels; https://www.troyhunt.com/what-would-it-look-like-if-we-put-warnings-on-iot-devices-like-we-do-cigarette-packets/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "#WomenBoycottTwitter is making me realise how much of my morning routine is going on twitter. It's helping me think about #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-10-13 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/womenboycotttwitter-is-making-me-realise-how-much-of-my-morning
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel Good morning jeremycherfas !
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jeremycherfas Really enjoying Keith J Grant's presentation. https://www.recallact.com/presentation/decentralized-social-web
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petermolnar now, how do we put wementions into this? https://louis.center/p2p-social-networking/
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jeremycherfas Plus, kids, this is how to keep calm doing live demos.
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@shuoink @keithjgrant @mirisuzanne That's actually my biggest gripe about indieweb. I can't stand microformats. (twitter.com/_/status/918797167996915713)
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jeremycherfas !tell keithjgrant Where did the bridgy link in your post come from?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel petermolnar: if you're willing to leave dat for the transport, by teaching your tools to handle dat urls. on top of dat I think it'd be hard to transport webmentions, but I'm not fully up-to-date in what they have tooling for and what they don't
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The Decentralized Social Web" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-13 https://www.recallact.com/presentation/decentralized-social-web
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Loqi [superfeedr] "YouTube Demonetization: The Great Platform Problem" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-06 https://tedium.co/2017/09/06/youtube-demonetization-problem/
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[keithjgrant] jeremycherfas thanks!
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[keithjgrant] Right now, I just have a bridgy link in my post template, so all posts get it
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Loqi [keithjgrant]: jeremycherfas left you a message 1 hour, 26 minutes ago: Where did the bridgy link in your post come from?
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[keithjgrant] Converting that to standard syndication options is on the Todo list
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jeremycherfas That's kind of a cool idea. I generally use Telegram by hand, which is fine for the posts I am using, but doesn't handle syndication. So is it in your HEAD, or hidden in each post?
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jeremycherfas I guess I could just head over and take a look.
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[keithjgrant] Hidden near the end of each post
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jeremycherfas Imitation will be the sincerest form of flattery.
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[miklb] keithjgrant what platform do you use?
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[keithjgrant] Statically generated site using Hugo
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[miklb] Gotcha. When I used Jekyll I was getting the payload back from bridgy during my build & parsing the syndication link & saving that to data file & then triggering a second build to inset the link. Always curious to see how others do it
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[keithjgrant] Right now I pull all my WMs from wm.io in my JavaScript. None of that makes it back into my repository
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[miklb] I did it on the sending of the WM, I used wm.io for receiving mentions. it was pretty kludgy but worked.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "A post on Kevin Marks&#039;s Known site byKevin Marks #WomenBoycottTwitter is making me realise how much of my morning routine is going on twitter. It&#039;s helping me think about #indieweb I completely relate. I susbscribe to NY Times, WaPo &#38; my local paper, but look for my news directly from their reporters on Twitter. Plus [&#8230;]" by Michael Bishop on 2017-10-13 https://miklb.com/2017/10/2520/
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[miklb] hmm. Looks like I need to work on my reply markup?
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[miklb] looks ok in the browser but that parsing…
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sknebel !pin13 https://miklb.com/2017/10/2520/
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Kaja https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmiklb.com%2F2017%2F10%2F2520%2F
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Loqi [Michael Bishop] I completely relate. I susbscribe to NY Times, WaPo & my local paper, but look for my news directly from their reporters on Twitter. Plus the other stuff. Definitely want to rethink all of it.
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[miklb] what are you saying sknebel?
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sknebel Nothing, just was curious how it looks like mf2 wise
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sknebel That's good, so it seems the only thing really lost when turned to text is the context that the start is a reply-context
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sknebel (And loqi doesn't HTML escape
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[miklb] so more of an issue with superfeedr?
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jeremycherfas Known 's unfortunate habit of stripping hashtags doesn't help.
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sknebel And potentially other things that turn it to text, but not sure how many are there and are relevant
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Colin Walker’s required reading rocks." by Des on 2017-10-13 http://www.desparoz.com/2017/10/14/colin-walkers-required-reading-rocks/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "13/10/2017, 17:45" by Colin Walker on 2017-10-13 https://colinwalker.blog/2017/10/13/13102017-1745/
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hs0ucy Hello
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hs0ucy I'm looking for feedbacks about my curriculum vitae... It's now an `h-resume`... is it the right place for asking this?
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hs0ucy It's in french <http://hugo.soucy.cc/file/curriculum-vitae.html>
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Zegnat hs0ucy, you can also ask in #microformats - this is right up my alley but don’t have time tonight to look at it :(
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hs0ucy Zegnat: Ok no problem :)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Why Facebook is in a hole over data mining | John Naughton" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-08 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/08/facebook-zuckerberg-in-a-hole-data-mining-business-model
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@andrepolischuk “Make tools for yourself first, not for all of your friends or ”everyone“.” https://indieweb.org/principles (twitter.com/_/status/918935685905764355)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-13.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-13.html
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tom_ hello
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snarfed hi tom_!
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tom_ i am stating to get my website to work with webmention
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tom_ i have posting about a project i discovered, it got twitted by a third party I would like to display the likes/share etc on my posting
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-13.html (twitter.com/_/status/918963314247344128)
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tom_ here the twitte https://mobile.twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/781876960553152512
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@Web3DConsortium New #Minecraft converter supports #X3D publishing using #X3DOM export. https://tomasparks.github.io/temp/minecraft2x3d/test_x3d.html with discussion at http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2016-September/005211.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtnI6vgUMAAYyZq.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/781876960553152512)
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snarfed tom_: great! does your web site accept webmentions? if not, check out https://indieweb.org/webmention#Publishing_Software
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tom_ i've setup jekyll-webmention_io
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snarfed tom_: great! next, if you want twitter responses as webmentions, sign up on https://brid.gy/
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tom_ i'm still going through the rest of the steps
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tom_ done brid.gy via facebook acc
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tom_ dont have a twitter acc
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snarfed ah. if you want twitter webmentions, you need to sign up for bridgy with a twitter account
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tom_ that sucks, I was hoping I could just put a twitter url in my post and it would link :(
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tom_ ok, I posted it on facebook how do I link them together?
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snarfed what do you mean?
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snarfed oh. either add a link to your web site's post in the facebook post
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snarfed ...or add a syndication link on your web site post: https://brid.gy/about#link
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tom_ i am currently working through microformats2
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@schmarty Your &lt; 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for Oct 7th - 13th, 2017. https://martymcgui.re/2017/10/13/185254/ (twitter.com/_/status/918973414123233280)
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@huffduffer This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • October 7th - 13th, 2017 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/435896 (twitter.com/_/status/918975301702602752)
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tantek whoa that was fast
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aaronpk oh nice, airplane listening
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GWG aaronpk: Heading home?
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aaronpk yep!
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