#indieweb 2017-11-15

2017-11-15 UTC
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@manton2
Had a great time at Refresh Austin tonight. Good to hear what other people are up to, and share a little about what’s going on with http://Micro.blog and the upcoming IndieWebCamp Austin.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "The room where the internet was born 💻🌐💡" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/14/the-room-where-the-internet-was-born-%f0%9f%92%bb%f0%9f%8c%90%f0%9f%92%a1/
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: As tweets can now be extra long, will that make my live tweeting better or worse for the people who follow me trying to make sense of live events?
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat
Mornin’ Jeremy
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Zegnat
Really enjoyed the last Eat This podcast, jeremycherfas! But did you change something about the website? I see a lot of PHP errors.
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jeremycherfas
How are the studies going?
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jeremycherfas
I haven't changed anything, only that I think it is now all HTTPS
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Zegnat
You either just fixed it, or it was a weird PHP fluke
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Zegnat
I was seeing warnings thrown from the Patreon plugin
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jeremycherfas
That is interesting; I know there is an updated version, but I haven't updsted it yet because I have been thinking about switching to Patreon's own plugin.
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ancarda
Hi, does anyone know what day the Homebrew Website Club is (Brighton, UK)? It says 6 to 7:30 but I don’t get back from work until 8 :( so there’s no way I can attend unless it’s on the weekends
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jeremycherfas
Ah, no. There is a Pro version, and I have not upgraded to that. Horrible gigantic splash across the Admin page too. Another reason to dump it.
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[kevinmarks]
I updated noterlive with the 280 limit, though I'm not fully comfortable with it
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Zegnat
ancarda: adactio organises the Brighton one, I don't know how strict they stick to the schedule
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jeremycherfas
Is there a virtual this evening?
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Zegnat
I'll be there and have RSVPd on the wiki.
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jeremycherfas
Let me do that.
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jeremycherfas
How are we supposed to do demos on Mumble?
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Zegnat
We can't really. It is something we have been searching solutions for.
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jeremycherfas
Maybe that's something we can discuss :)
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jeremycherfas
Or, more likely, continue to discuss.
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Zegnat
Gladly!
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Zegnat
sknebel are you calling in this evening?
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@cjk101010
@Frau_Semm Sich nicht auf Facebooks/Twitters/… Regeln einzulassen und auf dem eigenen Blog zu veröffentlichen wäre schonmal ein guter Schritt… #IndieWeb
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Zegnat
I would like to talk about automated testing. Trying to find a good way to write tests for LinkExtractor. So if anyone has ideas, pop-in at this evening’s vHWC :D
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ancarda
I don't think I can come on the call -- so if you want we could discuss here?
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ancarda
Do you have a function that accepts a block of HTML and returns the links inside? If so, that could be fairly easy to drop into something like phpspec or phpunit
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ancarda
Given `<a href="http://vanderven.se/martijn">My site</a>`, I should get `["http://vanderven.se/martijn"]` -- like that?
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Loqi
Martijn van der Ven
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jeremycherfas
I'd certainly like to learn about testing, so happy to listen.
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sknebel
Zegnat: yes, will join
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Zegnat
ancarda too bad! We use mumble, so you can even call in from your phone. But if you can't that's fine.
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Zegnat
I was looking at phpspec. Just not sure how to make it easy to add new html files as test cases. But that's a topic for the Dev channel.
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[kevinmarks]
mf2 parsera will do the html to link thing, but only for links with rel on.
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Zegnat
One of the reasons I filed the issue on Webmentions was that I thought all u- URLs (as given by mf2 parsers) should count, but that was refuted as they could be coming from DATA elements.
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Zegnat
So I wouldn’t recommend mf2 parsers for link checking per se
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Loqi
[Zegnat] #20 Can’t find the link in the source document, after already detecting it and showing a button
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mlopatka
mlopatka
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Zegnat
[kevinmarks], if you don’t find an event this evening, you are more then welcome to call in on our virtual one, btw!
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schmarty
good (if long) piece on one person's experience with the /silo-death of WebShots: http://reallifemag.com/faded-pictures/
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schmarty
touches on lots of indieweb principles as they relate to losing power when posting to silos.
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[kevinmarks]
(will be on my site soon)
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[kevinmarks]
looking at FHIR subscriptions, and they seem to have something in common with websub - trying to see if they fit. tweet thread https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/930806086436835329
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@kevinmarks
#FHIRdevdays17 @GrahameGrieve: We're here to talk about Subscriptions - https://www.hl7.org/fhir/subscription.html how many here have implemented Subscriptions? More than a handful
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sknebel
What is FHIR?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "FHIR" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10wL
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Zegnat
FHIR seems to be some sort of product from Furore Health Informatics. That may or may not be the FHI from FHIR…
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Zegnat
FHIR is Fast Healthcare Interoperability Resources. http://hl7.org/fhir/
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Zegnat
I was wrong. Furore seems to do the event Kevin is at, but FHIR is actually some sort of standards document for information interoperability. At least at first glance.
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[kevinmarks]
it's a big standards effort around healthcare
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sknebel
I like that they have "executive summary", "developer introduction", "clinical introduction" as starting points
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[kevinmarks]
they have a lot of different people to convince
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snarfed
i actually work with HL7/FHIR if you have any q's...but almost certainly unrelated :P
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[kevinmarks]
the subscription sounds a lot like websub to me, in that it is a resource that you create that calls you when things change
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[kevinmarks]
have you got subscription in your FHIR?
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[kevinmarks]
I thought you did, but you're off in the dna mines?
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snarfed
yeah we're not an EMR ourselves, thank god
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snarfed
no clue about fhir subscriptions
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[kevinmarks]
so you write Observations to an EHR from your system?
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snarfed
no, definitely not. we're mainly looking at consuming EHR right now
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snarfed
but still exploratory
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[kevinmarks]
SMART looks good for that
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snarfed
sure! if only FHIR was more widely implemented. still early
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snarfed
(in health care time scales at least :P)
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snarfed
anyway, off topic
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Loqi
FHIR Dev Days Amsterdam 2017-11-15
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@erikerskine
@adactio hi, is there a homebrew website club on this evening?
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sknebel
24 minutes until virtual HWC!
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-11-15 5:30pm CET (#6211)
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Zegnat
That whole thing looks like a very interesting market. We talked about some genome stuff over drinks in Berlin, and the pros and cons of publishing my DNA on my site.
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Zegnat
(Something I considered at one point.)
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ancarda
I'll listen in if that is ok with everyone, but I can't participate (will be muted on Mumble) as I'm currently at work, and will be commuting by the time there are demos :/
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Zegnat
Whatever works, we never force people to talk
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sknebel
(and don't stick to time tables generally ;))
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snarfed
ooh thanks KevinMarks!
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@schmarty
Come on out tonight for another meeting of @HWCBaltimore! Work on your personal website, learn about the #IndieWeb, and build a web for you (not them)! https://twitter.com/HWCBaltimore/status/930128091552403457
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Loqi
virtual HWC!
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sknebel
virtual HWC starting now on the /Mumble server!
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[kevinmarks]
Now I'm thinking about websub and medical records, I'm wondering about webmention for them
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Zegnat
I want in on that. I have been thinking about publishing certain records, for fun. Probably starting with the subscription of my glasses
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[kevinmarks]
Rolf Hut handed out little sensors to attach to your badge to record your temperature
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Zegnat
Internet connected?
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rmk1
hey
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rmk1
hello everyone
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sknebel
hi rmk1
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rmk1
sorry web IRC is not working on my end, have a good day
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rmk2
oh I think it's working now :)
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rmk2
anyway I have a problem getting webmention working on my wordpress so I guess I'm in the wrong channel. See you!
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sknebel
What is exist?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "exist" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10wM
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sknebel
What is exist.io?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "exist.io" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10wN
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rmk2
What is love?
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rmk2
x)
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[kevinmarks]
the temperature sensors write to a FHIR server
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@ChrisAldrich
Our friends at the #IndieWeb have some advice/help for sending data to @InternetArchive https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive #DtMH2017
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Our friends at the #IndieWeb have some advice/help for sending data to @InternetArchive https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive #DtMH2017" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-15 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/our-friends-at-the-indieweb-have-some-advicehelp-for-sending
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Zegnat
[kevinmarks], that sounds really interesting. I would track my body temp for a while and see what that looks like!
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@ChrisAldrich
#DtMH2017: If you need additional examples of site deaths like mummify.it to underline @mart1nkle1n's point: https://indieweb.org/site_deaths
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@benjaminparry
? Homebrewing again - Attempting an automated POSSE webmention via brid.gy at tonight’s Homebrew Website Club: http://benjamin.parry.is/collecting/thoughts/2017/11/homebrewing-again/
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@ChrisAldrich
For citations, @Regina2SU, you could use the W3C's Webmention protocol for sending/receiving notifications https://indieweb.org/webmention
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schmarty
hey folks! for those not in -meta, i've put up planning for IndieWebCamp Baltimore 2018!
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schmarty
please take a look and register your interest and date preferences for IWC Baltimore! https://indieweb.org/Planning#Baltimore
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[mrkrndvs]
Hi from Australia. I'm involved in K-12 education, but am interested in the future and potential of #IndieWeb
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[mrkrndvs]
I have been hesitant in reaching out, but my webmentions are playing up (https://readwriterespond.com). I have received some help from chrisaldrich (http://boffosocko.com/2017/09/17/setting-up-indieweb-replies-in-wordpress/) and they have worked before. I am not sure if there are any common things to look for?
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[mrkrndvs]
I am working with WP and have the #indieweb plugins. I also have Jetpack and have unticked so I get facepiles. I also have Wordfence.running. I added the code to the theme to filter webmentions. However, it is a problem both ways, as no one is being pinged from my site it would seem
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schmarty
hi [mrkrndvs] ! they've been quiet in here today but there should be some wordpress folks along at some point to help debug.
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Zegnat
[miklb] (ping) was in earlier, he might have some ideas
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schmarty
if you're in the IndieWebCamp slack, you can also try the wordpress channel (#indieweb-wordpress if you're on IRC)
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cweiske
a while ago we discussed about podcast transcription. I finished my first transcription and wrote about it (german!, but the link list at the end is english) - http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/podcast-transkript.htm
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Loqi
[Christian Weiske] Transkript für Logbuch Netzpolitik #232
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schmarty
cweiske++ neat!
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Loqi
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tantek
[chrisaldrich]++ for connecting the DtMH2017 folks with #indieweb!
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Loqi
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[kevinmarks]
TWiG time - things to cover?
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tantek
IWC Berlin?
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tantek
and upcoming IWC Austin!
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[miklb]
someone rang?
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[miklb]
there has been an issue with some installs where the mbstring php extension isn’t installed causing an error with the semantic-linkbacks plugin and webmentions failing.
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[miklb]
this would be reflected in error logs
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tantek
wow indieweb is the first search result for "NASCAR problem" and even shows a preview on Google!
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tantek
wondering if it's worth documenting these on an SEO page
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tantek
what is SEO
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Loqi
SEO is an acronym for Search Engine Optimization which refers to the practice and results of publishing pages and permalinks on the web in order to rank better (earlier/higher) in web search engine results https://indieweb.org/seo
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tantek
oh boy: "advanced muting with regular expressions."
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[mrkrndvs]
Thanks schmarty I must have overlooked that. Would make a lot more sense to post it there ?
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @ChrisAldrich" by Scott Kingery on 2017-11-15 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-chrisaldrich-8/
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "In honor of Dodging the Memory Hole 2017 this week, for free (hosting and domain registration not included) I&#8217;ll offer to build one journalist or academic a basic IndieWeb-capable WordPress-based portfolio website to display and archive their personal work. Preference will be given to those in attendance at the conference, but any who need an &#8220;author &#8230; Continue reading """ by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-15 http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/15/indieweb-capable-website-for-a-journalist/
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@ChrisAldrich
In honor of #DtMH2017, I'll offer to build one journalist or academic a basic #IndieWeb-capable WordPress-based portfolio website to display and archive their personal work. Reply by 11/25/17 to enter. Details: http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/15/indieweb-capable-website-for-a-journalist/
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