#indieweb 2017-11-15

2017-11-15 UTC
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@pfunder So happy about this. So so happy. Download it. Use it. #indieweb #mozilla #firefox https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/14/firefox-aims-to-win-back-chrome-users-with-its-souped-up-quantum-browser/ (twitter.com/_/status/930631664736206848)
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gRegorLove Wow. https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/a-judge-just-ruled-the-government-can-access-activists?utm_term=.qfepAzE81#.vu6PMAB3x
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@manton2 Had a great time at Refresh Austin tonight. Good to hear what other people are up to, and share a little about what’s going on with http://Micro.blog and the upcoming IndieWebCamp Austin. (twitter.com/_/status/930661006342320128)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The room where the internet was born 💻🌐💡" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/14/the-room-where-the-internet-was-born-%f0%9f%92%bb%f0%9f%8c%90%f0%9f%92%a1/
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: As tweets can now be extra long, will that make my live tweeting better or worse for the people who follow me trying to make sense of live events? (twitter.com/_/status/930695468396531712)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Mornin’ Jeremy
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Zegnat Really enjoyed the last Eat This podcast, jeremycherfas! But did you change something about the website? I see a lot of PHP errors.
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jeremycherfas How are the studies going?
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jeremycherfas OH NO!
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jeremycherfas I haven't changed anything, only that I think it is now all HTTPS
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Zegnat You either just fixed it, or it was a weird PHP fluke
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Zegnat I was seeing warnings thrown from the Patreon plugin
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jeremycherfas That is interesting; I know there is an updated version, but I haven't updsted it yet because I have been thinking about switching to Patreon's own plugin.
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ancarda Hi, does anyone know what day the Homebrew Website Club is (Brighton, UK)? It says 6 to 7:30 but I don’t get back from work until 8 :( so there’s no way I can attend unless it’s on the weekends
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jeremycherfas Ah, no. There is a Pro version, and I have not upgraded to that. Horrible gigantic splash across the Admin page too. Another reason to dump it.
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[kevinmarks] I updated noterlive with the 280 limit, though I'm not fully comfortable with it
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Zegnat ancarda: adactio organises the Brighton one, I don't know how strict they stick to the schedule
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jeremycherfas Is there a virtual this evening?
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Zegnat Yes
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Zegnat I'll be there and have RSVPd on the wiki.
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jeremycherfas Let me do that.
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jeremycherfas How are we supposed to do demos on Mumble?
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Zegnat We can't really. It is something we have been searching solutions for.
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jeremycherfas Maybe that's something we can discuss :)
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jeremycherfas Or, more likely, continue to discuss.
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Zegnat Gladly!
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Zegnat sknebel are you calling in this evening?
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@cjk101010 @Frau_Semm Sich nicht auf Facebooks/Twitters/… Regeln einzulassen und auf dem eigenen Blog zu veröffentlichen wäre schonmal ein guter Schritt… #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/930730348866088960)
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Zegnat I would like to talk about automated testing. Trying to find a good way to write tests for LinkExtractor. So if anyone has ideas, pop-in at this evening’s vHWC :D
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ancarda I don't think I can come on the call -- so if you want we could discuss here?
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ancarda Do you have a function that accepts a block of HTML and returns the links inside? If so, that could be fairly easy to drop into something like phpspec or phpunit
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ancarda Given `<a href="http://vanderven.se/martijn">My site</a>`, I should get `["http://vanderven.se/martijn"]` -- like that?
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven
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jeremycherfas I'd certainly like to learn about testing, so happy to listen.
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sknebel Zegnat: yes, will join
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Zegnat ancarda too bad! We use mumble, so you can even call in from your phone. But if you can't that's fine.
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Zegnat I was looking at phpspec. Just not sure how to make it easy to add new html files as test cases. But that's a topic for the Dev channel.
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[kevinmarks] mf2 parsera will do the html to link thing, but only for links with rel on.
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Zegnat One of the reasons I filed the issue on Webmentions was that I thought all u- URLs (as given by mf2 parsers) should count, but that was refuted as they could be coming from DATA elements.
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Zegnat So I wouldn’t recommend mf2 parsers for link checking per se
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], history: https://github.com/aaronpk/Telegraph/issues/20
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Loqi [Zegnat] #20 Can’t find the link in the source document, after already detecting it and showing a button
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mlopatka mlopatka
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], if you don’t find an event this evening, you are more then welcome to call in on our virtual one, btw!
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schmarty good (if long) piece on one person's experience with the /silo-death of WebShots: http://reallifemag.com/faded-pictures/
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schmarty touches on lots of indieweb principles as they relate to losing power when posting to silos.
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[kevinmarks] (will be on my site soon)
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[kevinmarks] looking at FHIR subscriptions, and they seem to have something in common with websub - trying to see if they fit. tweet thread https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/930806086436835329
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@kevinmarks #FHIRdevdays17 @GrahameGrieve: We're here to talk about Subscriptions - https://www.hl7.org/fhir/subscription.html how many here have implemented Subscriptions? More than a handful (twitter.com/_/status/930806086436835329)
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sknebel What is FHIR?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "FHIR" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat FHIR seems to be some sort of product from Furore Health Informatics. That may or may not be the FHI from FHIR…
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Zegnat FHIR is Fast Healthcare Interoperability Resources. http://hl7.org/fhir/
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Loqi ok
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Zegnat I was wrong. Furore seems to do the event Kevin is at, but FHIR is actually some sort of standards document for information interoperability. At least at first glance.
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[kevinmarks] it's a big standards effort around healthcare
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sknebel I like that they have "executive summary", "developer introduction", "clinical introduction" as starting points
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[kevinmarks] they have a lot of different people to convince
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snarfed i actually work with HL7/FHIR if you have any q's...but almost certainly unrelated :P
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[kevinmarks] the subscription sounds a lot like websub to me, in that it is a resource that you create that calls you when things change
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[kevinmarks] have you got subscription in your FHIR?
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[kevinmarks] I thought you did, but you're off in the dna mines?
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snarfed yeah we're not an EMR ourselves, thank god
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snarfed no clue about fhir subscriptions
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[kevinmarks] so you write Observations to an EHR from your system?
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snarfed no, definitely not. we're mainly looking at consuming EHR right now
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snarfed but still exploratory
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[kevinmarks] SMART looks good for that
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[kevinmarks] http://docs.smarthealthit.org/
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snarfed sure! if only FHIR was more widely implemented. still early
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snarfed (in health care time scales at least :P)
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snarfed anyway, off topic
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[kevinmarks] notes from this morning, saying that http://www.kevinmarks.com/fhirdevdays2017-11-15.html
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Loqi FHIR Dev Days Amsterdam 2017-11-15
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@erikerskine @adactio hi, is there a homebrew website club on this evening? (twitter.com/_/status/930827706182324226)
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sknebel 24 minutes until virtual HWC!
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-11-15 5:30pm CET (#6211)
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Zegnat That whole thing looks like a very interesting market. We talked about some genome stuff over drinks in Berlin, and the pros and cons of publishing my DNA on my site.
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Zegnat (Something I considered at one point.)
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ancarda I'll listen in if that is ok with everyone, but I can't participate (will be muted on Mumble) as I'm currently at work, and will be commuting by the time there are demos :/
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Zegnat Whatever works, we never force people to talk
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sknebel (and don't stick to time tables generally ;))
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snarfed ooh thanks KevinMarks!
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@schmarty Come on out tonight for another meeting of @HWCBaltimore! Work on your personal website, learn about the #IndieWeb, and build a web for you (not them)! https://twitter.com/HWCBaltimore/status/930128091552403457 (twitter.com/_/status/930833075847786496)
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Loqi virtual HWC!
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sknebel virtual HWC starting now on the /Mumble server!
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[kevinmarks] Now I'm thinking about websub and medical records, I'm wondering about webmention for them
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Zegnat I want in on that. I have been thinking about publishing certain records, for fun. Probably starting with the subscription of my glasses
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[kevinmarks] Rolf Hut handed out little sensors to attach to your badge to record your temperature
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Zegnat Internet connected?
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rmk1 hey
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rmk1 hello everyone
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sknebel hi rmk1
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rmk1 sorry web IRC is not working on my end, have a good day
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rmk2 oh I think it's working now :)
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rmk2 anyway I have a problem getting webmention working on my wordpress so I guess I'm in the wrong channel. See you!
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sknebel What is exist?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "exist" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sknebel What is exist.io?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "exist.io" yet. Would you like to create it?
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rmk2 What is love?
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Loqi "baby don't hurt me . . . " ♫ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I https://indieweb.org/love
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rmk2 x)
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[kevinmarks] the temperature sensors write to a FHIR server
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@ChrisAldrich Our friends at the #IndieWeb have some advice/help for sending data to @InternetArchive https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive #DtMH2017 (twitter.com/_/status/930856212471697408)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Our friends at the #IndieWeb have some advice/help for sending data to @InternetArchive https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive #DtMH2017" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-15 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/our-friends-at-the-indieweb-have-some-advicehelp-for-sending
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], that sounds really interesting. I would track my body temp for a while and see what that looks like!
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@ChrisAldrich #DtMH2017: If you need additional examples of site deaths like mummify.it to underline @mart1nkle1n's point: https://indieweb.org/site_deaths (twitter.com/_/status/930874419605536769)
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@martinpaljak Remember the NASCAR problem? https://indieweb.org/NASCAR_problem #platform #proliferation #futuresucks https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOsteAKX4AAE-nP.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/930887834512363520)
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@benjaminparry ? Homebrewing again - Attempting an automated POSSE webmention via brid.gy at tonight’s Homebrew Website Club: http://benjamin.parry.is/collecting/thoughts/2017/11/homebrewing-again/ (twitter.com/_/status/930889059744002048)
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@ChrisAldrich For citations, @Regina2SU, you could use the W3C's Webmention protocol for sending/receiving notifications https://indieweb.org/webmention (twitter.com/_/status/930891469547765760)
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schmarty hey folks! for those not in -meta, i've put up planning for IndieWebCamp Baltimore 2018!
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schmarty please take a look and register your interest and date preferences for IWC Baltimore! https://indieweb.org/Planning#Baltimore
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[mrkrndvs] Hi from Australia. I'm involved in K-12 education, but am interested in the future and potential of #IndieWeb
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[mrkrndvs] I have been hesitant in reaching out, but my webmentions are playing up (https://readwriterespond.com). I have received some help from chrisaldrich (http://boffosocko.com/2017/09/17/setting-up-indieweb-replies-in-wordpress/) and they have worked before. I am not sure if there are any common things to look for?
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[mrkrndvs] I am working with WP and have the #indieweb plugins. I also have Jetpack and have unticked so I get facepiles. I also have Wordfence.running. I added the code to the theme to filter webmentions. However, it is a problem both ways, as no one is being pinged from my site it would seem
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schmarty hi [mrkrndvs] ! they've been quiet in here today but there should be some wordpress folks along at some point to help debug.
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Zegnat [miklb] (ping) was in earlier, he might have some ideas
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schmarty if you're in the IndieWebCamp slack, you can also try the wordpress channel (#indieweb-wordpress if you're on IRC)
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cweiske a while ago we discussed about podcast transcription. I finished my first transcription and wrote about it (german!, but the link list at the end is english) - http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/podcast-transkript.htm
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Loqi [Christian Weiske] Transkript für Logbuch Netzpolitik #232
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cweiske transcription with play-this-sentence buttons: http://cweiske.de/transkripte/lnp232-der-boese-kleber-aus-deutschland.htm
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schmarty cweiske++ neat!
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Loqi cweiske has 95 karma in this channel (122 overall)
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tantek [chrisaldrich]++ for connecting the DtMH2017 folks with #indieweb!
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[kevinmarks] TWiG time - things to cover?
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tantek IWC Berlin?
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tantek and upcoming IWC Austin!
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[miklb] someone rang?
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[miklb] there has been an issue with some installs where the mbstring php extension isn’t installed causing an error with the semantic-linkbacks plugin and webmentions failing.
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[miklb] this would be reflected in error logs
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tantek wow indieweb is the first search result for "NASCAR problem" and even shows a preview on Google!
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tantek wondering if it's worth documenting these on an SEO page
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tantek what is SEO
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Loqi SEO is an acronym for Search Engine Optimization which refers to the practice and results of publishing pages and permalinks on the web in order to rank better (earlier/higher) in web search engine results https://indieweb.org/seo
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[miklb] heh http://blog.chrishannah.me/use-mute-filters-to-return-to-140-character-tweets/
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tantek oh boy: "advanced muting with regular expressions."
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@ChrisAldrich @palewire @Chronotope Here's some code in multiple languages that could do just that: https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive (twitter.com/_/status/930930028627587073)
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[mrkrndvs] Thanks schmarty I must have overlooked that. Would make a lot more sense to post it there ?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Favorite tweet by @ChrisAldrich" by Scott Kingery on 2017-11-15 http://techlifeweb.com/favorite-tweet-by-chrisaldrich-8/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "In honor of Dodging the Memory Hole 2017 this week, for free (hosting and domain registration not included) I&#8217;ll offer to build one journalist or academic a basic IndieWeb-capable WordPress-based portfolio website to display and archive their personal work. Preference will be given to those in attendance at the conference, but any who need an &#8220;author &#8230; Continue reading """ by Chris Aldrich on 2017-11-15 http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/15/indieweb-capable-website-for-a-journalist/
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@ChrisAldrich In honor of #DtMH2017, I'll offer to build one journalist or academic a basic #IndieWeb-capable WordPress-based portfolio website to display and archive their personal work. Reply by 11/25/17 to enter. Details: http://boffosocko.com/2017/11/15/indieweb-capable-website-for-a-journalist/ (twitter.com/_/status/930947928234930176)
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