#indieweb 2017-12-14

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Loqi
[superfeedr] "RSVP to Impromptu IndieWeb Meetup" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-12-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/13/rsvp-to-impromptu-indieweb-meetup/
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[cleverdevil]
Tweaking my Micro.blog feeds for RSVPs... what's the best emoji prefix to signify an RSVP?
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gRegorLove
what is rsvp?
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Loqi
An RSVP is a reply to an event post that says whether the sender is or is not attending, might attend, or is just interested in the event https://indieweb.org/rsvp
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chrisaldrich
calendar maybe for emoji?
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[cleverdevil]
Perhaps... Yes, No, Maybe could map to a person raising their hand, crossing their arms over their face, and shrugging.
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gRegorLove
wiki has 💌
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[cleverdevil]
Ooh, I like that.
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chrisaldrich
I know there are a few icons that have calendars with checkmarks or xs, but no emojis do that to my knowledge.
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chrisaldrich
maybe it's the hidden meaning for the new dumpling emoji that we've been looking for? :)
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chrisaldrich
the vHWC Americas has at least 6 people for Quiet Writing hour tonight! We'll get rolling at 5:30pm Pacific/8:30pm Eastern. https://hangouts.google.com/call/0JCH5b875C2UNseSnfkxAAEE
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[miklb]
not able to call into the hangout, but hanging out chat
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gRegorLove
o/ [miklb]
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[mikirk]
like that
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gRegorLove
o/ [mikirk]
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[miklb]
howdy mikirk
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gRegorLove
vHWC North America intros...
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gRegorLove
...gwg, myself, chrisaldrich
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Loqi
[Chris Aldrich] IndieWeb and Webmentions plugin for WordPress FTW! I don’t think I’d used it before or really seen it happening in the wild, but Khurt Williams used his website to reply to one of my posts via Webmention. I was then able to write my reply direct...
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gRegorLove
... Chris is talking about WordPress comment threading ^
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gRegorLove
... been tinkering with /read posts as well
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gRegorLove
just sticking his head up above water after being away for a while
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gRegorLove
mikirk.com
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[asuh]
Good evening from LA, on the Hangout but it’s not finding cam or mic on my computer so I’m lurking and listening
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gRegorLove
Welcome [asuh]! Feel free to mention your website and any other intro / thing you've been working on here in chat
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aaronpk
Hello [asuh]! Are you close enough to downtown to make it to post-HWC LA?
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gRegorLove
... went to 2016 IWC LA
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Loqi
IndieWeb LA Meetup
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gRegorLove
... over the summer moved to WordPress
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[asuh]
Hey aaronpk I’m close to downtown, yes, but I’m not certain I can make it tonight unfortunately
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gRegorLove
... getting into front-end design now, javascript, node, etc.
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aaronpk
can't join the hangout but is looking forward to in-person hangouts later
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gRegorLove
... Ashersilberman.com
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gRegorLove
Eddie, eddiehinkle.com
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[asuh]
Yes, cam issues. Maybe my mic does work? I can try unmuting after Eddie
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gRegorLove
... recently got excited about /read posts, one of his first interests in indieweb, but got distracted by all the other aaronpk behaviors :)
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gRegorLove
... decided to do 100 days of reading chapters challenge
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gRegorLove
... a chapter of some type of book every day, then do a /read post about it
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gRegorLove
... right now a text post only, but last post he added a book cover image, experimenting
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gRegorLove
... will be able to look back after 100 days and find commonalities in posts
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gRegorLove
... and figure out mf2 from there
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gRegorLove
... text-first design
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gRegorLove
... rsvp'ing was starting to be a pain, started using Quill to rsvp, much easier now
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "An update to read posts for physical books" by David Shanske on 2017-12-14 https://david.shanske.com/2017/12/13/update-read-posts-physical-books/
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gRegorLove
discussing /read posts more. [got distracted/talking, stopped note-taking :) ]
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[asuh]
thanks for avatar compliments. very old!
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[eddie]
:thumbsup:
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@manton2
At Halcyon for Homebrew Website Club. Deployed a minor update to the http://Micro.blog navigation bar, to make the web version a little more consistent with the native apps.
(twitter.com/_/status/941126027450994688)
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[asuh]
I’m gonna attempt to reboot the browser and rejoin
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gRegorLove
discussing IWC Baltimore
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[asuh]
No luck for me
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gRegorLove
[asuh]: Looks like you're in there twice now, heh
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[asuh]
I see!
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[asuh]
My site: asuh.com
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[asuh]
I’m WordPress based, learning the ins and outs of what Indieweb plugins are doing with the site and how it works to hook it up to the social sites. I haven’t formally involved myself with anything Indieweb yet but have been fascinated at the potential. I’ve submitted several comments or pull requests to various Github repos as I’ve seen issues or had questions.
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[asuh]
Also looking at grouping tweets into one post instead of multiple posts, for tweetstorms
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[asuh]
One big question to hear you guys discuss is how to POSSE out protected posts to sites like Facebook. I don’t make any public posts in Facebook on purpose, only letting contact list see what I post. Personal preference. But I haven’t seen information on this yet.
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[asuh]
This is what I would say if my mic worked 🙂
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gRegorLove
asuh++ Thanks and welcome!
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Loqi
asuh has 1 karma
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gRegorLove
I'll bring that up
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[miklb]
asuh re: tweetstorms, not quite the same, but I’ve found that if I tweet the first item from my site with bridgy, and then reply to that natively in Twitter, they backfeed as comments on that post.
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[asuh]
miklb that’s an interesting idea. Was curious if it was possible from within my site instead of having to visit Twitter for replies. Thinking about how to push bridgy to the limit without having to visit the Twitter silo
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[miklb]
understood. I still use Tweetbot quite a bit and the few times I’ve wanted to thread thoughts, that’s the closest I’ve come to getting them all on one page
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chrisaldrich
Here's my following page: http://boffosocko.com/about/following/ which has OPML files via topic at the end.
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Loqi
Following
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gRegorLove
My following page is https://gregorlove.com/following/, primarily used for /Vouch but could be used to import to a /reader
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gRegorLove
what is PressForward?
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Loqi
PressForward is free software built for WordPress for curating and sharing content from the web https://indieweb.org/PressForward
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[miklb]
asuh I’ll be curious to see if the Twitter api will support their new thread feature and if something could be built for WP, maybe with this as a starting point https://github.com/JJJ/publishiza
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Loqi
[JJJ] publishiza: 💩🌩 your Twitter followers from your WordPress
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[asuh]
Excellent info, thanks
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[asuh]
A big reason is because of privacy implementation for people who have need to protect identity
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gRegorLove
Definitely
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gRegorLove
what is Canopy?
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Loqi
The Canopy is a decentralized social space underpinned by the canopy platform written in Python by Angelo Gladding that helps you create and fully manage a personal identity site with extensive support for IndieWeb features and API interoperability https://indieweb.org/Canopy
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gRegorLove
What is GeneratePress?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "GeneratePress" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "GeneratePress is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove
wrapping up vHWC North America
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[miklb]
curious what spurred that theme to get linked to in the wiki
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gRegorLove
mikirk mentioned it
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gRegorLove
during vHWC
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[mikirk]
GeneratePress is one of the cooler clean starter themes I've found, has a premium set of addon customization *tools,* and one license allows any number of commercial websites. https://generatepress.com/about/
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[asuh]
aaronpk not too late to join tonight? Scheduled just freed up
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aaronpk
We are still im ljne ordeing food!
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[asuh]
Well then I’ll take my chance to get there asap
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aaronpk
Got a good spot at the tables
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gRegorLove
Updated my reading page to filter by Currently Reading and Want to Read, using the microformat read-status property: https://gregorlove.com/reading/
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oodani
Huh. Is it intended that p-categories on an h-entry not contain any spaces? Various clients (Quill, Omnibear, dobrado, possibly others?) seem to assume this, although microformats2 itself can readily support p-categories that do have spaces.
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oodani
I've used spaces in mine and their handling in the clients i mentioned is pretty weird.
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sknebel
oodani: I've noticed that too and consider it a bug (e.g. I filed https://github.com/aaronpk/Quill/issues/85 )
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Loqi
[sknebel] #85 categories with spaces in them appear to be broken up in different categories
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oodani
Yeah, I noticed the same behaviour. It does seem like a bug, given that Quill's UI allows categories containing spaces.
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "IndieWeb Meetup Art" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-12-14 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/indieweb-meetup-art
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Checked into Wurstküche" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-12-14 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/checked-into-wurstk%C3%BCche
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sknebel
ok, omnibear says "space-seperated", maybe allowing quotes would be a resonable request to solve it there
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@jackysee
@siuying 用番microformat,webmention同micropub 理論上可以同其他獨立網站溝通 more on https://indieweb.org/micro.blog
(twitter.com/_/status/941212138642821120)
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel
good morning!
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Loqi
rise and shine!
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Zegnat
Via adactio, I think this is interesting: https://twitter.com/owencm/status/940770226966224897
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@owencm
We're seeking feedback on a new UI proposal for giving users easy access to URLs from pinned PWAs running full screen! WDYT? 🙋‍♂️ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5JPuOVAAAZiO9.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/940770226966224897)
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sknebel
I find this "use the notifications to display meta info about the current app" design always a bit odd, but I guess it's what you have on the platform
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Zegnat
That seems to be the gist of some of the negative reactions, yes. I wouldn’t really want it in the notification UI either, but I understand that if my webapp is display-standalone Chrome does not want to superimpose its own UI again.
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sknebel
yeah. various other tools use it as well, e.g. CynaogenMod's data protection does the same to tell you how it treats the app
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tomasparks
I am looking a storing all my notes in a single file (per month), I am wondering if anybody has/is doing this?
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[kevinmarks]
Tantek is
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sknebel
I think tantek is doing that (not sure if monthly, but something like that)
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[kevinmarks]
He uses a Bi-month of his own design, but the principle is the same
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tomasparks
I have been storing prototype notes in yaml file, but I am looking at CSV also
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sknebel
I don't think I'd recommend CSV, that sounds tricky when you want to add new things
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[kevinmarks]
Prefer tab-separated to csv as the quote and comma escaping in csv is hell
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[kevinmarks]
If you want variable structures, TSV and CSV are hard.
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tomasparks
I am using a vintage PDA witch has CSV as a export option
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tomasparks
for offline use
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[kevinmarks]
make some notes with , ' and " in and check how it escapes them - you may want to normalize these as CSV implementations differ on how to do this
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@kevinmarks
How is it that @googledocs has a drawing tool to make vector graphics, but no way to embed them in a slides or docs document? It won't embed natively at all (you can make a new drawing inline, but not another document)
(twitter.com/_/status/941294559719456768)
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tomasparks
I am creating a few notes in libreoffice calc
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tomasparks
to give me some ideas
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@jkphl
Yay! Just added the first @indiewebcamp to @colloq_io: Join us in #Nuremberg from October 20th-21st, 2018, during the 2018 edition of @nueww! https://colloq.io/events/indiewebcamp/2018/nurnberg/1
(twitter.com/_/status/941352323426734080)
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@DJFalcon23
I just registered for IndieWebCamp Baltimore 2018 https://ti.to/indiewebcamp/baltimore-2018 This will overlap with my #100DaysOfCode challenge, which is good!
(twitter.com/_/status/941358384120516608)
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@HWCBaltimore
Baltimore, DC, Philly, and beyond! Announcing the first IndieWebCamp Baltimore: Jan 20-21 at @DHFBaltimore. Spend Saturday learning and discussing the #IndieWeb, and Sunday working on your website. Build a better web, for you (not them)! Register now! https://2018.indieweb.org/baltimore
(twitter.com/_/status/941365597148938242)
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Loqi
Sorry, you have to be listed on https://indieweb.org/irc-people before you can help retweet
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Zegnat
Woops aaronpk, what did you do now
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[asteres]
chrisaldrich++
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Loqi
chrisaldrich has 50 karma in this channel (67 overall)
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[asteres]
Subscribed to your opml feeds!
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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gRegorLove
What is Colloq?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Colloq" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Colloq is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove
Colloq is a service to find and track [[events]], used as part of IndieWebCamp Nuremburg 2018 https://colloq.io/events/indiewebcamp/2018/nurnberg/1
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Homebrew Website Club London December 13th 2017" by Neil Mather on 2017-12-14 https://doubleloop.net/2017/12/14/homebrew-website-club-london-december-13th-2017/
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Loqi
How to Avoid Being Tracked by Facebook On this week’s episode, we talked quite a bit about the ways that Facebook, in concert with a bunch of other companies, can track you on and off the internet. Here are a number of ways to keep that from ha...
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