#indieweb 2017-12-14

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Loqi [superfeedr] "RSVP to Impromptu IndieWeb Meetup" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-12-14 http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/13/rsvp-to-impromptu-indieweb-meetup/
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[cleverdevil] Tweaking my Micro.blog feeds for RSVPs... what's the best emoji prefix to signify an RSVP?
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gRegorLove what is rsvp?
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Loqi An RSVP is a reply to an event post that says whether the sender is or is not attending, might attend, or is just interested in the event https://indieweb.org/rsvp
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chrisaldrich calendar maybe for emoji?
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[cleverdevil] Perhaps... Yes, No, Maybe could map to a person raising their hand, crossing their arms over their face, and shrugging.
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gRegorLove wiki has 💌
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[cleverdevil] Ooh, I like that.
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chrisaldrich I know there are a few icons that have calendars with checkmarks or xs, but no emojis do that to my knowledge.
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chrisaldrich maybe it's the hidden meaning for the new dumpling emoji that we've been looking for? :)
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[cleverdevil] Much better: http://share.cleverdevil.io/4PwEs9AzrP.png
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[eddie] Nice!
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@scott_gruber Quietly, happily working on an @indiewebcamp website https://www.suefan.art/ (twitter.com/_/status/941104245654224896)
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tantek cool
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chrisaldrich the vHWC Americas has at least 6 people for Quiet Writing hour tonight! We'll get rolling at 5:30pm Pacific/8:30pm Eastern. https://hangouts.google.com/call/0JCH5b875C2UNseSnfkxAAEE
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[miklb] not able to call into the hangout, but hanging out chat
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gRegorLove o/ [miklb]
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[miklb] \_O
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[mikirk] like that
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gRegorLove o/ [mikirk]
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[miklb] howdy mikirk
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gRegorLove vHWC North America intros...
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gRegorLove ...gwg, myself, chrisaldrich
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chrisaldrich GWG: http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/13/finally-blog-to-blog-communication-with-simplicity/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] IndieWeb and Webmentions plugin for WordPress FTW! I don’t think I’d used it before or really seen it happening in the wild, but Khurt Williams used his website to reply to one of my posts via Webmention. I was then able to write my reply direct...
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gRegorLove ... Chris is talking about WordPress comment threading ^
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gRegorLove ... been tinkering with /read posts as well
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gRegorLove Michael
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gRegorLove just sticking his head up above water after being away for a while
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gRegorLove mikirk.com
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[asuh] Good evening from LA, on the Hangout but it’s not finding cam or mic on my computer so I’m lurking and listening
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gRegorLove Welcome [asuh]! Feel free to mention your website and any other intro / thing you've been working on here in chat
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aaronpk Hello [asuh]! Are you close enough to downtown to make it to post-HWC LA?
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gRegorLove Asher
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gRegorLove ... went to 2016 IWC LA
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2017/12/13/17/
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Loqi IndieWeb LA Meetup
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gRegorLove ... over the summer moved to WordPress
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[asuh] Hey aaronpk I’m close to downtown, yes, but I’m not certain I can make it tonight unfortunately
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gRegorLove ... getting into front-end design now, javascript, node, etc.
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aaronpk can't join the hangout but is looking forward to in-person hangouts later
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gRegorLove ... Ashersilberman.com
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gRegorLove Eddie, eddiehinkle.com
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[asuh] Yes, cam issues. Maybe my mic does work? I can try unmuting after Eddie
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gRegorLove ... recently got excited about /read posts, one of his first interests in indieweb, but got distracted by all the other aaronpk behaviors :)
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gRegorLove ... decided to do 100 days of reading chapters challenge
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gRegorLove ... a chapter of some type of book every day, then do a /read post about it
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tantek ooh
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gRegorLove ... right now a text post only, but last post he added a book cover image, experimenting
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gRegorLove ... will be able to look back after 100 days and find commonalities in posts
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gRegorLove ... and figure out mf2 from there
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gRegorLove ... text-first design
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gRegorLove ... rsvp'ing was starting to be a pain, started using Quill to rsvp, much easier now
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Loqi [superfeedr] "An update to read posts for physical books" by David Shanske on 2017-12-14 https://david.shanske.com/2017/12/13/update-read-posts-physical-books/
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gRegorLove discussing /read posts more. [got distracted/talking, stopped note-taking :) ]
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[asuh] thanks for avatar compliments. very old!
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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@manton2 At Halcyon for Homebrew Website Club. Deployed a minor update to the http://Micro.blog navigation bar, to make the web version a little more consistent with the native apps. (twitter.com/_/status/941126027450994688)
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[asuh] I’m gonna attempt to reboot the browser and rejoin
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gRegorLove discussing IWC Baltimore
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[asuh] No luck for me
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gRegorLove [asuh]: Looks like you're in there twice now, heh
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[asuh] I see!
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[asuh] My site: asuh.com
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[asuh] I’m WordPress based, learning the ins and outs of what Indieweb plugins are doing with the site and how it works to hook it up to the social sites. I haven’t formally involved myself with anything Indieweb yet but have been fascinated at the potential. I’ve submitted several comments or pull requests to various Github repos as I’ve seen issues or had questions.
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[asuh] Also looking at grouping tweets into one post instead of multiple posts, for tweetstorms
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[asuh] One big question to hear you guys discuss is how to POSSE out protected posts to sites like Facebook. I don’t make any public posts in Facebook on purpose, only letting contact list see what I post. Personal preference. But I haven’t seen information on this yet.
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[asuh] This is what I would say if my mic worked 🙂
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gRegorLove asuh++ Thanks and welcome!
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Loqi asuh has 1 karma
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gRegorLove I'll bring that up
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[miklb] asuh re: tweetstorms, not quite the same, but I’ve found that if I tweet the first item from my site with bridgy, and then reply to that natively in Twitter, they backfeed as comments on that post.
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[asuh] miklb that’s an interesting idea. Was curious if it was possible from within my site instead of having to visit Twitter for replies. Thinking about how to push bridgy to the limit without having to visit the Twitter silo
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[miklb] understood. I still use Tweetbot quite a bit and the few times I’ve wanted to thread thoughts, that’s the closest I’ve come to getting them all on one page
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chrisaldrich Here's my following page: http://boffosocko.com/about/following/ which has OPML files via topic at the end.
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Loqi Following
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gRegorLove My following page is https://gregorlove.com/following/, primarily used for /Vouch but could be used to import to a /reader
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gRegorLove what is PressForward?
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Loqi PressForward is free software built for WordPress for curating and sharing content from the web https://indieweb.org/PressForward
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[miklb] asuh I’ll be curious to see if the Twitter api will support their new thread feature and if something could be built for WP, maybe with this as a starting point https://github.com/JJJ/publishiza
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Loqi [JJJ] publishiza: 💩🌩 your Twitter followers from your WordPress
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gRegorLove discussing /private_posts and /audience
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[asuh] Excellent info, thanks
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[asuh] A big reason is because of privacy implementation for people who have need to protect identity
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gRegorLove Definitely
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gRegorLove what is Canopy?
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Loqi The Canopy is a decentralized social space underpinned by the canopy platform written in Python by Angelo Gladding that helps you create and fully manage a personal identity site with extensive support for IndieWeb features and API interoperability https://indieweb.org/Canopy
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gRegorLove What is GeneratePress?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "GeneratePress" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "GeneratePress is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove GeneratePress is a [[WordPress]] theme https://generatepress.com
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove wrapping up vHWC North America
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[miklb] curious what spurred that theme to get linked to in the wiki
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gRegorLove mikirk mentioned it
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gRegorLove during vHWC
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[miklb] hmm
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[mikirk] GeneratePress is one of the cooler clean starter themes I've found, has a premium set of addon customization *tools,* and one license allows any number of commercial websites. https://generatepress.com/about/
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[asuh] aaronpk not too late to join tonight? Scheduled just freed up
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aaronpk We are still im ljne ordeing food!
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[asuh] Well then I’ll take my chance to get there asap
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aaronpk Got a good spot at the tables
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gRegorLove Updated my reading page to filter by Currently Reading and Want to Read, using the microformat read-status property: https://gregorlove.com/reading/
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oodani Huh. Is it intended that p-categories on an h-entry not contain any spaces? Various clients (Quill, Omnibear, dobrado, possibly others?) seem to assume this, although microformats2 itself can readily support p-categories that do have spaces.
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oodani I've used spaces in mine and their handling in the clients i mentioned is pretty weird.
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sknebel oodani: I've noticed that too and consider it a bug (e.g. I filed https://github.com/aaronpk/Quill/issues/85 )
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Loqi [sknebel] #85 categories with spaces in them appear to be broken up in different categories
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oodani Yeah, I noticed the same behaviour. It does seem like a bug, given that Quill's UI allows categories containing spaces.
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@cleverdevil IndieWeb Meetup Art https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ-99d6XcAAar2p.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/941179714265337856)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb Meetup Art" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-12-14 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/indieweb-meetup-art
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Checked into Wurstküche" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-12-14 https://cleverdevil.io/2017/checked-into-wurstk%C3%BCche
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sknebel ok, omnibear says "space-seperated", maybe allowing quotes would be a resonable request to solve it there
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@jackysee @siuying 用番microformat,webmention同micropub 理論上可以同其他獨立網站溝通 more on https://indieweb.org/micro.blog (twitter.com/_/status/941212138642821120)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning!
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Loqi rise and shine!
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Zegnat Via adactio, I think this is interesting: https://twitter.com/owencm/status/940770226966224897
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@owencm We're seeking feedback on a new UI proposal for giving users easy access to URLs from pinned PWAs running full screen! WDYT? 🙋‍♂️ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5JPuOVAAAZiO9.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/940770226966224897)
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sknebel I find this "use the notifications to display meta info about the current app" design always a bit odd, but I guess it's what you have on the platform
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Zegnat That seems to be the gist of some of the negative reactions, yes. I wouldn’t really want it in the notification UI either, but I understand that if my webapp is display-standalone Chrome does not want to superimpose its own UI again.
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sknebel yeah. various other tools use it as well, e.g. CynaogenMod's data protection does the same to tell you how it treats the app
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tomasparks I am looking a storing all my notes in a single file (per month), I am wondering if anybody has/is doing this?
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[kevinmarks] Tantek is
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sknebel I think tantek is doing that (not sure if monthly, but something like that)
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[kevinmarks] https://indieweb.org/file-storage#Tantek
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[kevinmarks] He uses a Bi-month of his own design, but the principle is the same
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tomasparks I have been storing prototype notes in yaml file, but I am looking at CSV also
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sknebel I don't think I'd recommend CSV, that sounds tricky when you want to add new things
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tomasparks here my yaml https://github.com/tomasparks/website/blob/master/_data/notes/2017-10.yml
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[kevinmarks] Prefer tab-separated to csv as the quote and comma escaping in csv is hell
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[kevinmarks] If you want variable structures, TSV and CSV are hard.
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tomasparks I am using a vintage PDA witch has CSV as a export option
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tomasparks for offline use
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[kevinmarks] make some notes with , ' and " in and check how it escapes them - you may want to normalize these as CSV implementations differ on how to do this
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[kevinmarks] I felt ranty and made a twitter tweetstorm: https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/941294559719456768
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@kevinmarks How is it that @googledocs has a drawing tool to make vector graphics, but no way to embed them in a slides or docs document? It won't embed natively at all (you can make a new drawing inline, but not another document) (twitter.com/_/status/941294559719456768)
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tomasparks I am creating a few notes in libreoffice calc
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tomasparks to give me some ideas
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@jkphl Yay! Just added the first @indiewebcamp to @colloq_io: Join us in #Nuremberg from October 20th-21st, 2018, during the 2018 edition of @nueww! https://colloq.io/events/indiewebcamp/2018/nurnberg/1 (twitter.com/_/status/941352323426734080)
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@DJFalcon23 I just registered for IndieWebCamp Baltimore 2018 https://ti.to/indiewebcamp/baltimore-2018 This will overlap with my #100DaysOfCode challenge, which is good! (twitter.com/_/status/941358384120516608)
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@HWCBaltimore Baltimore, DC, Philly, and beyond! Announcing the first IndieWebCamp Baltimore: Jan 20-21 at @DHFBaltimore. Spend Saturday learning and discussing the #IndieWeb, and Sunday working on your website. Build a better web, for you (not them)! Register now! https://2018.indieweb.org/baltimore (twitter.com/_/status/941365597148938242)
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aaronpk !rt http://twtr.io/1ZQdrknuhqh
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Loqi Sorry, you have to be listed on https://indieweb.org/irc-people before you can help retweet
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aaronpk Uhoh
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Zegnat Woops aaronpk, what did you do now
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[asteres] chrisaldrich++
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 50 karma in this channel (67 overall)
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[asteres] Subscribed to your opml feeds!
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schmarty !rt http://twtr.io/1ZQdrknuhqh
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[miklb] !rt http://twtr.io/1ZQdrknuhqh
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Loqi Thanks [miklb] and schmarty! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/941370475564883968
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tantek Next meetups: Homebrew Website Club https://indieweb.org/events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log http://chat.indieweb.org/today
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gRegorLove What is Colloq?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Colloq" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Colloq is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove Colloq is a service to find and track [[events]], used as part of IndieWebCamp Nuremburg 2018 https://colloq.io/events/indiewebcamp/2018/nurnberg/1
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Loqi ok
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Homebrew Website Club London December 13th 2017" by Neil Mather on 2017-12-14 https://doubleloop.net/2017/12/14/homebrew-website-club-london-december-13th-2017/
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gRegorLove Helpful privacy info for Facebook: https://gimletmedia.com/how-to-avoid-being-tracked-by-facebook/
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Loqi How to Avoid Being Tracked by Facebook On this week’s episode, we talked quite a bit about the ways that Facebook, in concert with a bunch of other companies, can track you on and off the internet. Here are a number of ways to keep that from ha...
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gRegorLove From this episode of Reply All: https://gimletmedia.com/episode/109-facebook-spying/
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