#indieweb 2017-12-15

2017-12-15 UTC
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KevinMarks A human version of loqi? https://twitter.com/zipoffs/status/940763198281613312
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@zipoffs it's not an easy job but somebody's gotta do it https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5DIynVQAEImMa.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/940763198281613312)
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[miklb] the only downside of using Slack is the double unfurl of Twitter urls
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eli_oat[m] I wouldn't say that is the only downside of slack :P
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genet does this irc chat duplicate the slack channel?
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Ruxton yeas
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Ruxton and vice versa
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Ruxton all the slack users in IRC have their nicknames wrapped in square brackets
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-12-15.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@kventil https://indieweb.org/site-deaths Small reminder to export your data from time to time from whatever cloud-service you use. (twitter.com/_/status/941558364668121088)
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[keithjgrant] When posting a photo via micropub, is there a way to include alt text?
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[eddie] Yes
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[eddie] "photo": [
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[eddie] "value": "https://photos.example.com/globe.gif",
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[eddie] {
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[eddie] "alt": "Spinning globe animation"
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[eddie] ]
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[eddie] }
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[eddie] https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#json-syntax
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[eddie] This isn't completely finalized though. There is an issue open here: https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/2#issuecomment-236712535
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Loqi [aaronpk] Of the current options in the brainstorming section, everyone who has commented there agrees on the following: - If a u-\* property is parsed on an <img> element with a non-empty 'alt' attribute, then: - Create a structure similar to the e-content...
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snarfed yeah i've been waiting on mf2py support for that for ages, for consuming. whee. https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/issues/83
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Loqi [snarfed] #83 include img alt text in photo property
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snarfed (friendly nudge tommorris :P)
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aaronpk Yeah we should really finalize that
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aaronpk I just realized why I haven't gotten in the habit of using Indigenous yet... I need to get my Micropub endpoint set up to like things on twitter when I'm liking a tweet url
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sknebel no bridgy syndication for that?
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aaronpk I'd still need to trigger it
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tantek there is Bridgy Publish support for liking tweets - it's what I use for that (instead of the Twitter API)
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aaronpk *how* I like tweets is not the problem, the problem is I need to trigger whatever that publishing mechanism is in the first place
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aaronpk silo.pub can also do it via micropub
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[eddie] Yeah, I need to get that set up in my micropub endpoint as well. Right now it's kind of a hassle, because I do the micropub request, and then after my jekyll rebuilds, I go to the page and send a manual webmention via telegraph to bridgy publish.
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[eddie] It's gonna feel like a whole new world when I finish adding silo.pub support to my micropub endpoint
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Loqi AIM shuts down! Export your data: https://indieweb.org/AIM#How_to_export_your_data
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Loqi Countdown set by tantek on 2017-10-24 at 4:36pm UTC
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tantek is it dead yet?
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tantek looks like it's not allowing logins from Adium
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Focus on Content" by Khürt Williams on 2017-12-14 https://tracking.feedpress.it/link/1771/7736587
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dgold tell snarfed thanks for filing that bug on karabiner-elements
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dgold !tell snarfed thanks for filing that bug on karabiner-elements
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove What is Untappd?
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Loqi Untappd is a social silo for posting consumptions of beer (which they call "Check-ins" to beers) and optionally any or all of where (venue, thus making it an actual checkin), 1-5 star rating, photo, or review commentary https://indieweb.org/Untappd
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Zegnat just has a shared Google Photos album with pictures of ciders and reviews
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gRegorLove A friend of mine is very close to the Untappd badge for 10,000 unique beer checkins
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gRegorLove I kind of cringe for him if the app ever dies.
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tantek gRegorLove: OwnYourPints?
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gRegorLove Heh, I like it
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raretrack we have a few beer-recording siloes here in UKland, I've never really used them for that reason: risk of lock-in and site death
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tantek_ clearly worth discussing at Homebrew Website Club
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gRegorLove It is nice that Untappd has RSS at least, and we have two examples of using that for PESOS
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aaronpk as much as I'd love to do that, the amount of data entry work required is beyond me
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raretrack it was beyond this chap too. he had a beer website from 1999 to this year, when it became impossible to keep up. and this is just for one locale: http://beermad.web-brewer.co.uk/closedown.html
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Zegnat Hmm, I do want to start tracking what I drink (thus the Photos album). I spent an hour not too long ago looking for what cider I drank at IWC Brighton. Would’ve helped if I had my own data on it.
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gRegorLove What is Teacup?
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Loqi Teacup is a Micropub client for posting various types of food posts to any server supporting Micropub https://indieweb.org/Teacup
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gRegorLove Wow, 60000 beers on that Beermad site. Impressive.
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Zegnat Yes, I’ll probably start using Teacup when my micropub endpoint is live :D
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Zegnat (Turned out I can’t get the Brighton Cider in Sweden anyway, so my search was for naught :( )
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gRegorLove Should point Jason Scott / Archive Team to it so it gets archived thoroughly.
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tantek sometimes Twitter only puts some of the @-names in a canoe into the "Replying to ... " reply-context of a tweet, and leaves some in the content area of the reply - not sure why - example: https://twitter.com/t/status/941771775788175360
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@t @wilto @etportis @beep @firefox @mozilla @adactio @jensimmons @keithjgrant @paulhhowells @rachelandrew @FullStack_Jimmy @brkemper @ZeeCoder @innovati @elrond25 +listening. Appreciate blogs & frankness re: momentum Retry in #WICG? →GH: https://github.com/ResponsiveImagesCG/cq-usecases/issues/44 (ttk.me t4rv2) (twitter.com/_/status/941771775788175360)
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tantek ^^^ you can't tell from there you have to look at the web view
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tantek anybody seen this and/or have any insight as to why?
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snarfed tantek: i'm guessing that's the difference between just replying to people vs explicitly including their @-names in the tweet text
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Loqi snarfed: dgold left you a message 3 hours, 31 minutes ago: thanks for filing that bug on karabiner-elements
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snarfed dgold: huh, sure. which? sticky modifiers?
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dgold the "this damned thing doesn't work on High Sierra" one
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snarfed tantek: shades of https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/743
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Loqi [snarfed] #743 new extended tweets broke ability to @-reply publicly
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snarfed ah lol yes
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tantek snarfed - not quite - I'd accept that if it was nothing in reply-contextbut that's not what's happening
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tantek snarfed, here's another example where Twitter put all my (10!) @-s into the reply-context https://twitter.com/t/status/941715520021323776
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@t @innovati @jensimmons @FullStack_Jimmy @ZeeCoder @keithjgrant @firefox @mozilla @paulhhowells @rachelandrew @brkemper appreciate links, updated proposal! RICG waiting on requirements proposal from March? https://github.com/ResponsiveImagesCG/cq-usecases/issues/36#issuecomment-287917442 cc @wilto @beep ... http://tantek.com/t4rv1 (twitter.com/_/status/941715520021323776)
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tantek (again you have to view it on the web)
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snarfed ah, so you mean, they sometimes collapse explicit @-names from text into reply context, but not consistently?
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tantek in the former example Twitter put 5 of the @-s into the reply-context, and listed 10 more in the content
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tantek why that split I have no idea. I checked and in my original content all the @-s are in a strict space-delimited sequence
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snarfed and the text you sent to twitter's API is exactly what's in your post, in both cases?
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snarfed (continued in -dev)
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ElMago[m]1 hello everyone... I have a ghost blog and I would like to use webmentions on it, do you know what's the best way to go?
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ElMago[m]1 I also would like to know what else I could do on my blog that could be cool
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-12-15.html
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snarfed ElMago[m]1: welcome! looks like we're not aware of ghost supporting webmentions so far: https://indieweb.org/Ghost
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ElMago[m]1 ah ok... I read something about themes being able to support it
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gRegorLove oh yeah, newsletter day!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in WordPress" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-12-15 http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/15/threaded-replies-with-webmentions-in-wordpress/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in WordPress" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-12-15 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/threaded-replies-and-comments-with-webmentions-in-wordpress-cf6f6bbc375?source=rss----12b80d28f892---4
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gRegorLove ElMago[m]1: You could use https://webmention.io to add support for receiving webmentions though
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gRegorLove Sending them, don't think that's been implemented (or isn't known to us yet)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in WordPress" https://boffosocko.com/2017/12/15/threaded-replies-with-webmentions-in-wordpress/
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@ChrisAldrich I have stumbled upon the killer #WordPress plugin/app! It enables simpler interwebsite conversations (commonly known as @mentions). Here's my write up of "Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in @WordPress". #IndieWeb http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/15/threaded-replies-with-webmentions-in-wordpress/ (twitter.com/_/status/941787443879075840)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Further thoughts the future of owning my reading" https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/12/15/11/article/
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@sl007 @Nevite1983 @nerdcavestories @Tom090468 @jugendhackt Cool. Sonst noch https://zen.coderdojo.com/?q=düsseldorf&amp;p=1 - die hier machen übrigens tolle Sachen https://coderdojo-nbg.org (aber weit weg) und falls Euch es interessiert https://indieweb.org/ + https://indieweb.org/Events (twitter.com/_/status/941790356240248832)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-12-15.html
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aaronpk oh nice, how did IWC austin get bumped to the top?
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tantek :D
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tantek yay!
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Loqi woot
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-12-15.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRH6KKwUIAEkesM.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/941808861803044864)
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aaronpk wow that's a pretty packed newsletter!
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gRegorLove aaronpk: Maybe because I put it back on /events#Upcoming. Had previously archived it lower on the page
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tantek I thought "this week" did Recent Events and Upcoming Events by date, not by position on the /events page
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gRegorLove that makes sense
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aaronpk I thought so
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gRegorLove oh, it appears twice. weird
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in WordPress" http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/15/threaded-replies-with-webmentions-in-wordpress/