#indieweb 2017-12-16

2017-12-16 UTC
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[kevinmarks] Twitter's new "write your own tweetstorm thing seems confused by me replying to myself in a chain
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@khurtwilliams @ChrisAldrich @WordPress Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in WordPress #IndieWeb (https://islandinthenet.com/threaded-replies-comments-webmentions-wordpress/) (twitter.com/_/status/941832712091967488)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Threaded Replies and Comments with Webmentions in WordPress" by Khürt Williams on 2017-12-16 https://tracking.feedpress.it/link/1771/7740018
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@TracyAltheide Tracy AltheideMoving Up One Step at a Time Tracy AltheideMenuSkip to contentFollow me on TwitterLike me on FacebookConnect with me on LinkedInFollow me on PinterestFollow me on InstagramSubscribe to my RSS FeedHOMEABOUTContact / Submit IdeaSHOP WITH… http://www.tracyaltheide.com/indieweb-test/ (twitter.com/_/status/941924459887448064)
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@Chun_Karoliina @csch42 http://indieweb.org (falls jemand jetzt echt nach Alternativen sucht) (twitter.com/_/status/941997072500297728)
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[tantek] ICYMI, Instagram added "follow hashtags" (not just people) 4 days ago. (2017-12-12 presumably) https://instagram.com/p/BcnAC7IgWvb/
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Loqi [Mike Krieger] Starting today, you can follow hashtags on Instagram and discover more photos and videos around your interests, hobbies, passions and the communities you care about. In honor of @Junopup, I’m following #bernesemountaindog 🐾 Thanks to @kzk9sf fo... https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/24845600_1029083677231294_3701214279513407488_n.jpg
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@kopfzeiler @egghat Nope, ein paar Indieweb-Plugins, Webmentions etc.. http://Micro.blog bin ich auch (@joha), aber ist ein bisschen kompliziert, sich einen zusammenhängenden Hub für Blog und Social zu bauen. (twitter.com/_/status/942060045294063617)
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[miklb] Looks like the Slack bug of not showing who is talking is fixed in latest iOS release. 👍
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[miklb] latest Slack iOS release
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aaronpk nice
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[miklb] So Matt Mullenweg is going to be in the area next week and I’m going to personally try and pitch webmentions in core
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[tantek] I think that's a good conversation to have
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[tantek] I still think we need a solid Vouch plugin (separate or better as part of Webmentions plugin) before deploying anything of that scale
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[miklb] I would tend to agree if pingbacks weren’t already in WP core
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[miklb] But if nothing else it would be nice to know exactly what his familiarity is with them & where it is on his radar
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GWG [miklb]: Good luck
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[tantek] I know he's heard of them, I think he's even said nice things in issue / comments / posts
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[tantek] Miklb pingbacks (and their horrible spam / security reputation) are precisely why I'd rather see Webmention offer a substantial advantage in those way, with Vouch
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[tantek] Really don't want to see Webmention dismissed as "just another pingback" but that's a real concern
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[miklb] well, it’s not like they would be added immediately
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[tantek] Right. Like I first said. Good to have that conversation. :)
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[miklb] no better way to move the conversation and work for Vouch than knowing webmentions would be coming to WP core 🙂
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GWG I don't think it is on his list of priorities, so I don't think the conversation can hurt or help
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[miklb] And I don’t think there would be a better time to get Matt on board and move the convo than now, as he’s the lead for the release cycle. If we keep waiting for someone else to take it up, it might never happen
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GWG But him making a statement might get interest from others for future work
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[kevinmarks] How do they interact with akismet?
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[miklb] webmentions?
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[kevinmarks] Given that akismet is a big revenue generator for automattic
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[kevinmarks] On the slack update issue: https://twitter.com/annapickard/status/941924198011645953
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@annapickard Ok look, I never link these myself but this one I just like as proof that (very) occasionally it’s worth including details of things users won’t have ever noticed. Because, tbh, software is really fucking ridiculous. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRJjD7oU8AAU5QY.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/941924198011645953)
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curve25519 How well does webmention work for localhost testing? Do I need to be on a public server/ip for it to work?
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aaronpk as long as the thing you're sending to can reach the address you use in the source it works fine
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aaronpk I test with no internet connection on my laptop between different apps running locally all the time
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curve25519 ok thnx
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curve25519 thinking about making the indieweb-based mastodon clone
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curve25519 what is indie social?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indie social" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indie social is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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curve25519 what is indie-social?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indie-social" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indie-social is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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curve25519 totally taking that name
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raretrack that should attract the indie music fans!
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[snarfed] curve25519: just FYI, https://fed.brid.gy/
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Loqi Ryan Barrett
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[snarfed] 😂
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curve25519 [snarfed]: I was thinking more mastodon clone in the UI
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curve25519 where it's a webapp that's purpose is just as a gnu social sort of tool but using indieweb instead of ostatus et al
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[snarfed] since having your own domain is the key starting point for indie web, a Mastodon clone would be more like a host
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curve25519 whose purpose*
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curve25519 well my idea is to make it a single binary go app with no database
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curve25519 so setting up your own instance should be prtty easy
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[snarfed] like https://micro.blog or https://withknown.com
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[snarfed] "easy" for people who can administer a server or VM 😁
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curve25519 they don't need a vm
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curve25519 i can cross compile to any os
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[snarfed] https://indieweb.org/generations
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[snarfed] also good freaking at the top of https://indieweb.org/web_hosting
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[snarfed] er framing
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curve25519 yeah muggles will never host it
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[snarfed] "muggles" make the world go round!
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aaronpk More easy to install indieweb software is always good tho!
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aaronpk It'd be nice if the only two open source "download and go" options weren't just wordpress and known, especially if it also has a built in reader
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curve25519 yeah it's a continuum
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[snarfed] true!
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curve25519 single binary is easier than some crazy virtual env with postgres
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curve25519 which is what most things today are
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[bo] beep boop
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KartikPrabhu hi [bo]
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genet hmm, for some reason, for a while I was not able to see Slack messages in the IRC...
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curve25519 TIL mastodon posts use microformats
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genet eli_oat[m]: are you ending work on pneumatic posts?
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