#indieweb 2017-12-17

2017-12-17 UTC
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KartikPrabhu https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/MozillaBetraysFirefoxUsers
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KartikPrabhu what's going on there?
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KartikPrabhu any Moziallins to calrify?
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gRegorLove Yikes
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gRegorLove I didn't have "Allow Firefox to install and run studies" checked
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Zegnat gRegorLove, of you are on the beta or nightly channel that might not matter. sknebel pointed out to me yesterday that telemetry and it's projects is a locked configuration on those no matter what the checkbox looks like.
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@redblobgames @_wilfredh Seems like the kind of thing the indieweb community would do e.g. https://indieweb.org/Bridgy might do it (twitter.com/_/status/942339573132099584)
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Zegnat Aah, Loqi isn’t +o. I was wondering why I wasn’t getting +v :)
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[mlopatka] gRegorLove, still awesome that you are mindful of your telemetry prefs!
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Loqi the 20th anniversary of the "Blog" http://archive.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/news/2007/12/blog_anniversary
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Loqi Countdown set by aaronpk on 2016-06-22 at 1:30am UTC
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snarfed 🎊
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[miklb] Wow that’s some spam . Can we delete those?
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[miklb] And block that account
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dgold gets so tiring dealing with american culture wars
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[miklb] Huh?
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Zegnat [miklb] theoretically it could be removed from the public chatlogs. Not sure if we should have a procedure for this. (Maybe discuss in #meta.)
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Zegnat Blocking the account does nothing, I have seen these messages from several different accounts. Something doing the rounds on Freenode at the moment.
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genet Would banning keyword triggers work?
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[kevinmarks] That article hasn't aged well
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Zegnat genet, in theory, you could teach a bot to ban based on keywords, but obviously the message will already have been sent to everyone then
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genet true
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genet there's always the +b censor
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[miklb] So…the answer is do nothing?
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genet Can't we set the censor to convert to **** and then ban based on continuted usage?
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Zegnat IRC has a censor mode for converting text to asterisks? First time I hear of that.
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genet freenode may not have it enabled
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genet it is usually /mode #channel +b ~T:censor:word
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genet or /mode #channel +b ~T:block:word
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Zegnat Oh interesting. Learn something new every day.
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[miklb] anyway, if anyone sees the above offensive spam in this channel, please know it in now way reflects this community or its goals for building a better, more inclusive web.
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[miklb] s/now way/no way/
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@schmarty An extra long (almost 15 minutes!) update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for December 9th - 15th, 2017. https://martymcgui.re/2017/12/17/125551/ (twitter.com/_/status/942454183680200704)
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@huffduffer This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • November December 9th - 15th, 2017 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/447743 (twitter.com/_/status/942455141797646336)
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@TracyAltheide Tracy AltheideMove Up One Step at a Time Tracy AltheideMenuSkip to contentFollow me on TwitterLike me on FacebookConnect with me on LinkedInFollow me on PinterestFollow me on InstagramSubscribe to my RSS FeedHOMEABOUTContact / Submit IdeaSHOP WITH… http://www.tracyaltheide.com/indieweb-test-three/ (twitter.com/_/status/942458313329008640)
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@TracyAltheide Tracy AltheideMove Up One Step at a Time Tracy AltheideMenuSkip to contentFollow me on TwitterLike me on FacebookConnect with me on LinkedInFollow me on PinterestFollow me on InstagramSubscribe to my RSS FeedHOMEABOUTContact / Submit IdeaSHOP WITH… http://www.tracyaltheide.com/indieweb-testfour/ (twitter.com/_/status/942458958845014021)
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dgold [miklib]: i've seen similar spam attacks on other irc channels (not all on freenode) in recent weeks
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dgold almost always the content of the spam, the outrageous elements at least, are related to peculiarly _american_ culture war content
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dgold either stuff to do with Trump, trans rights, marriage equality or race
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dgold and its so damned tiring dealing with this festering sore that the us has become
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[miklb] wishes he lived in an ivory tower
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Zegnat We could start an IRC server that bans all US IPs, dgold ;)
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dgold Zegnat: that would be kinda cool! but also terrible.
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[miklb] and also a poor assumption that the hate is actually coming from a US ISP…
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[miklb] but all of this is sorely off topic
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dgold i'm unsure that it is. one of the reasons I've stopped using twitter is american nazis.
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dgold and I know a lot of people who've withdrawn from that silo for just that reason
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raretrack i almost exclusively view twitter via my own curated lists these days
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Zegnat I don’t follow enough high-output people for it to matter. Mostly follow people I know IRL. I used to have my Twitter account set to private, but that was a little annoying during e.g. IWC
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dgold raretrack: same for me. means I mostly read either my friends or authors I enjoy
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aaronpk Please keep the meta discussion in -meta or move it to -chat for off topic discussion
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dgold fair enough
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gRegorLove Re: the Firefox stuff, I'm not on beta / nightly, so not sure why those boxes are unchecked. I wasn't familiar with the "studies" checkbox before I saw that post.
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gRegorLove Either way, that Mr Robot promo was pretty poorly thought on on Mozilla's end.
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gRegorLove Chris' follow-up questions are good too: https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/MozillaSomeQuestions
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chrisaldrich I just noticed the twitter hash tag #TwitterEvacuationDay set for December 31st: https://twitter.com/hashtag/twitterevacuationday?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash
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chrisaldrich Seems to be in response to an LA-based comedian leaving the platform. Many tweets on it are suggesting /Mastodon instances as alternatives.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reply to Storify Bites the Dust. If You Have WordPress, You Don’t Need Another Third Party Clown Service" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-12-17 http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/17/reply-to-storify-bites-the-dust-if-you-have-wordpress-you-dont-need-another-third-party-clown-service/
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GWG My mother wants to know what Swarm is
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GWG She's been watching my website
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schmarty GWG: what did you tell her?
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GWG I misunderstood her.
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GWG She wants to know who Swarm is in the comments.
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GWG Like "First of your friends to check in here"