#indieweb 2018-02-27

2018-02-27 UTC
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Loqi [superfeedr] "❤️ Microsub bridge by Ryan Barrett" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-02-26 http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/26/microsub-bridge-by-ryan-barrett/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "👓 Webmention.io integration for Drupal 8 | realize.be" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-02-26 http://boffosocko.com/2018/02/26/webmention-io-integration-for-drupal-8-realize-be/
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aaronpk Fun side effect of using granary + Aperture to follow conference hashtags is I end up with a private archive of all the tweets
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matigo Apologies for the n00b question, but I'm wondering if anyone has found a good solution for implementing web mentions with future-dated posts or posts that have expiration periods on them. Setting up Cron jobs is relatively easy on a VPS, but generally prohibited on shared hosting plans ...
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snarfed matigo: which CMS?
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matigo snarfed: mine. It's just a simple PHP-based thing.
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snarfed ok! are your future posts visible before their published timestamp? if not, how does your code make them public?
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matigo At the moment I have a scheduled job that will run every minute when there are posts set for release or expiration in the future. That said, it's easy for me to do this as the software runs on my servers. I'm trying to clean the software up so that others can install and run it on their own if they choose.
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matigo I'm not keen on suggesting the average person learn about cron jobs or otherwise manage a server just to publish stuff online :/
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snarfed hmm, ok. there are already lots of PHP libraries and snippets for sending webmentions in various ways, and services for it like telegraph. maybe consider one of them instead of rolling your own
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snarfed "the average person" hopefully won't be coding their own CMS at all; they'll use a mature one like wordpress or known or micro.blog
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matigo It would be nice if the CMS I've been developing for 7 years could return to being an open project that people could run if they chose. I can't say it's the most mature thing, but I can say that it scratches many of my itches in ways WordPress never could :P
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snarfed ahh got it. there are cron substitutes that trigger on HTTP requests for eg shared hosting environments. wordpress uses one. maybe adopt one of them?
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matigo That's certainly an option. I'll take a look to find one that doesn't make things too difficult. Thanks :)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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snarfed hey Zegnat
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Zegnat Hellow snarfed :-)
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[kevinmarks] Hah https://om.co/gigaom/the-dawn-of-the-micropubs/
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Loqi What’s (really) wrong with Facebook
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[kevinmarks] Hm, loqi parsed the "read next" thing in the footer
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Loqi [superfeedr] "“I think most people would be better served by subscribing to small b blogging. What you want is something with YOUR personality. Writing and ideas" by Kevin Marks on 2018-02-27 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/i-think-most-people-would-be-better-served-by-subscribing
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[kevinmarks] Superfeeder is now shorter than twitter?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I love that @om coined "micro-pubs" in 2003 for the wave of professional media blogs, and now #micropub is the #indieweb standard for posting on" by Kevin Marks on 2018-02-27 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/i-love-that-om-coined-quotmicro-pubsquot-in-2003-for-the
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[kevinmarks] Grrr "
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Zegnat Ha, Loqi displayed the wrong title for Om’s article because the footer link is marked up as an hentry while the main article only uses schema.
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Zegnat I wonder if that’s because Om doesn’t really (wants to) support microformats at all, but the WordPress widget used to pin a post at the bottom just includes old mf1 again
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Zegnat mf1 will now forever be randomly included on WP sites through themes and widgets
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cweiske a.k.a world domination
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mmm dasdsd
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mmm hello
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Fritter image inlining settings #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2018-02-27 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/fritter-image-inlining-settings-indieweb
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Zegnat Hello mmm!
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Zegnat Interesting discussion, via adactio: https://www.b-list.org/weblog/2018/feb/11/usernames/
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sknebel their e-mail advice is IMHO really bad, but the rest seems good
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Zegnat Which advice specifically, sknebel?
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sknebel stripping + and . before comparing
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Zegnat Ah, hm, I am not sure how I feel about it. Part of me tells me that isn’t likely to be a problem though.
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[kevinmarks] for me it's a bit of an ongoing argument about URLs vs emails
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skippy if you're asking users to supply a username, then stripping a + from an email is the wrong thing to do. The user specifically and intentionally elected to add that for their own reasons. You should not muck with that.
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Zegnat It is only dropped for checking uniqueness, if I understand the article correctly, skippy. So I would assume it is still left in place for the actual value
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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eli_oat hey hey!
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jeremycherfas Ho ho
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schmarty Reclaim your posts from a si-lo!
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jeremycherfas Boom boom
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skippy Zegnat: i understand; but there may be legitimate reasons for making a new account / identity, using plus-addressing for the email.
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skippy shrugs.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Kristof De Jaeger: Webmention.io integration for Drupal 8" on 2018-02-27 https://realize.be/blog/webmentionio-integration-drupal-8
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