#indieweb 2018-03-28
2018-03-28 UTC
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[unoabraham] I use it, but it is known to break sites (as in the CSS).
# [unoabraham] I also use Pi-Hole and uBlock… and can still feel that the Internet is littered with intrusive ads.
# [unoabraham] Heads up…
# [unoabraham] I did not ping Eli (only linked to him in the content), but he left me a comment.
# [unoabraham] I think something may be up with how your site is sending webmentions. Since you posted this I’ve received a couple dozen all from this one post. No worries, but wanted to give you a heads up.
# [unoabraham] Hey there — thanks for the shout out in this post!
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@Johannes_Ernst @ricmac Have you seen the #indieweb readers being built right now, with multi-protocol backends? (twitter.com/_/status/978854544141676544)
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@HongPong If you take a half hour to skim over this, that is really the key to the decentralized network. Protocol specification https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ #activitypub #mastodon #gnusocial #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/978859404169801729)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
# jeremycherfas Anyone interested in a vHWC this evening?
# jeremycherfas I should be too, after 17:30 CEST
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@samim There is a unique cultural opening currently, for the #indieweb to grab significant marketshare from the great octopi. Exciting times! (twitter.com/_/status/978921154093223936)
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petermolnar I have some UI/ideology questions: lately I've been questioning the usefulness of chronological ordering on some of my collection pages, say, on journal and articles. An alternative approach could be that I get rid of pagination and use a topic based arrangement in some way. This has two problems: one is how to organise within a topic - some articles are quite old, going back to 2009-2010, and ordering by name could bring them to the t
# petermolnar op -, the other is I'm uncertain how efficient hundreds of kilobytes of
# petermolnar HTML is, mostly for humans, not machine/bandwidth wise.
# petermolnar I thought about reintroducing them; I got rid of tags a while ago to reduce complexity
# petermolnar "tag" in my read is still a replacement for the meta keywords, but they could be thought of as topics; however, that's not the main question
# petermolnar I don't really want a separate page, but instead one page, with better navigation and overview for humans
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cweiske I need separate pages: http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/
# petermolnar that's a very neat page though
# jeremycherfas FWIW I think the scrolling problem makes life very difficult for a one page solution. IMHO you need a kind of introductiory paragraph, or even list of contents, that can be quickly scanned so people can see everything that is on the page. And if you do that, there's not much reason for a page, this being hypertext after all.
# jeremycherfas Christian's page is exactly what I mean.
# petermolnar cweiske: for junk content, I completely agree; this is more about the non-junk part
# jeremycherfas And the only improvement to that I could possibly offer would be some kind of ordering or filtering based on tag or topic.
# jeremycherfas I would argue that it should be at the top of the page.
# jeremycherfas The proof being that I didn't see it!
# petermolnar I like it at the bottom
# jeremycherfas Keep it there, then. That's why each of us has our own site, so we can have things the way we like them.
# jeremycherfas In my view of that kind of classification hierarchy, an item belongs to one or two categories, but can have multiple tags. And tags cut across categories.
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pstuifzand I was also thinking about combining some articles
# pstuifzand Perhaps it's useful to have a title, summary and link (and perhaps a date)
# pstuifzand Perhaps combining a part 1, 2, 3 on one page, that would be useful on its own
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# petermolnar cweiske: thank you for linking tagebuch; I reformatter journal/article a bit similarly, in a per-year manner, without pagination, and so far, I like it better
# petermolnar I still want to do something nice with the photos, but that's a long struggle
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[kevinmarks] tag pages are a good solution - have a look at some of the stuff aaron has done wiht them - making a sticky post to go at the top so you can say what theya re about
# [kevinmarks] Hugo has some decent abstractions for marking posts with different metadata and constructing collection pages from them
# [kevinmarks] what I did for Christopher was to only show tags on the homepage that had more than 3 posts in http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/
# [kevinmarks] if you want some prior art for thinking about this
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# [ryan339] I created monthly archive pages using Hugo taxonomies, they are pretty flexible!
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# hs0ucy skippy: Have you visited https://gohugo.slack.com/ ?
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[kaushal_modi] skippy: The official Hugo support channel is Discourse
# [kaushal_modi] skippy: May be bump again.. if it hasn't been answered, then may be the solution is too easy or no one has a solution :)
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skippy this one? https://discourse.gohugo.io/
# [kaushal_modi] Yes
# [kaushal_modi] I am active there, and answer questions when I get a chance
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb 🙂
# petermolnar skippy: damn you, I can only read that in the voice of Mr Burns :D
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# jeremycherfas I guess not :)
# jeremycherfas Only you and I replied, and I ended up working on this PHP course I am taking.
# jeremycherfas Wut?
# jeremycherfas Sorry.
# jeremycherfas Where? In that "Wut?"
# jeremycherfas Utterly bizzaro
# jeremycherfas Where on earth can they be coming from?
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Zegnat My IRC client rendered it: https://i.imgur.com/xRHKtFu.png
# jeremycherfas Maybe I'm just a clumsy typist. I do touch type, and pretty fast.
# jeremycherfas -> #chat
# Zegnat Also in the logs: https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-03-28/1522255148673800
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Building Our New Website: POSSE and Sharing on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+ and More" by Dan York on 2018-03-28 https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2018/03/building-new-website-posse-sharing-facebook-twitter-linkedin-google/
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# snarfed interesting "soft-silo-quit" facebook feature: temporary deactivating. https://www.facebook.com/help/214376678584711
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@bradfitz I deactivated my Facebook account a week ago & still not missing it. It feels very refreshing, actually. No need to go all the way and #DeleteFacebook when you can just deactivate it: https://www.facebook.com/help/214376678584711 I have much more to say on this at some point here, post vacation. (twitter.com/_/status/979061414022164480)
# hs0ucy No need to desactivate it when you can just delete it ;)
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# [cleverdevil] [snarfed] you still up to meet later on today?
# [cleverdevil] :thumbsup:
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grantcodes RE technical jargon, it's not helped by even some of the building block functionality having complex names (don't know how avoidable that is though), Even I was/am occasionally confused :P
# grantcodes even stuff like "silo" & "syndication" are not obvious what they mean
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# [kim_landwehr] Trying unsuccessfully to add micro sub end point to my blog. I am using the https://indieweb.org/Microsub-spec#Authentication_and_Authorization as the roadmap. My question is what do I replace https://aaronpk.example with. Do I replace it with my website url or something else?. Hope the question makes sense.
# [kim_landwehr] Sure, no problem
# @Johannes_Ernst @ricmac @aaronpk is developing an #IndieWeb reader called Monocle, which he showed at the most recent Homebrew Website Club in San Francisco. And @cleverdevil is developing one called Together in React. (twitter.com/_/status/979078433664770048)
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@edsu @dancohen Thanks for writing this Dan! I think you're right. There's a new generation of folks that didn't experience this renaissance of writing, that are primed for it. There's been some interest here at umd in an indieweb meetup to provide a place to explore self publishing on the web. (twitter.com/_/status/979079496803418112)
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@dancohen @edsu Thanks, Ed! As you can see in that post, I’m caught between optimism and pessimism. Anyway, it’s been fun writing again in my own space, and I’d love to see what we can do to support the indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/979080621812338691)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Building an IndieWeb Reader" by Khürt Williams on 2018-03-28 https://tracking.feedpress.it/link/1771/8693751
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