#indieweb 2018-03-30

2018-03-30 UTC
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tantek !tell kevinmarks aha just saw the literal "other"ing by putting it explicitly in a menu option, yes that's visible rather than just neglect. not a matter of technology, and the marketing mention is a red herring
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jgphilpin Jeremy Cherfas provides a users perspective on Indieweb … nicely made points, like … If someone were able to create a kind of umbrella that took your money, made IndieWeb tools available and shared your money with the people who built the tools ... http://john.philpin.com/2018/03/29/000849.html (twitter.com/_/status/979510857943126016)
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@unoabraham What Is the IndieWeb? https://ift.tt/2GXWxxe (twitter.com/_/status/979531549048823810)
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haha23[m] hi u guys
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haha23[m] this is the girl u keep bothering with out her consent
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-03-30.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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KartikPrabhu haha23[m]: do you have your own domain?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: lol
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@Vlahn Eli Mellon makes some great points about the poor accessibility of the IndieWeb technologies as they currently exist and how to make owning your own content (independent of silos like Facebook) easier for users of social networks moving forward. (twitter.com/_/status/979562515150594048)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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gRegorLove o/ Zegnat
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gRegorLove And soon to be good night IndieWeb, for me.
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aaronpk Well that's a sure sign I'm up too late
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "New release of mf2 to iCalendar" https://gregorlove.com/2018/03/new-release-of-mf2-to-icalendar/
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gRegorLove haha
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Loqi awesome
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@aaronpk Had a great time at the @pdxnode meetup tonight! Here are some of the resources I talked about! https://indieweb.org https://indieweb.org/webmention Okta APIs which I used to log in to my website https://developer.okta.com https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org… https://aaronparecki.com/2018/03/29/46/pdxnode (twitter.com/_/status/979593884828184576)
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Zegnat Me showing up means you need to hit the sack, aaronpk?
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[jeremycherfas] Means I should think about getting up too.
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Zegnat I got in a bit early today, only because I am leaving on a sight-seeing trip later
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[jeremycherfas] Have fun.
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/stubbornella/status/979617851580366848?s=19
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@stubbornella The twitter app is beyond broken. I didn’t see any of @LeaVerou’s replies to my framework vs vanilla thread. I must abandon ship, what app should I use? (twitter.com/_/status/979617851580366848)
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 19 minutes ago: aha just saw the literal "other"ing by putting it explicitly in a menu option, yes that's visible rather than just neglect. not a matter of technology, and the marketing mention is a red herring
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Posting on your own site, POSSEd to twitter and using http://brid.gy to turn the replies on twitter into webmentions works rather well - not sure if it catches replies to replies though #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/979627929213652992)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Posting on your own site, POSSEd to ..." by Kevin Marks on 2018-03-30 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/posting-on-your-own-site-possed-to
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@k4v Ein Weg aus der Facebook- und Twitter-Falle: https://indieweb.org/ Publiziert auf eigenen Blogs und nutzt APIs, um die Inhalte auf allen Plattformen zu verlinken und Likes einzusammeln! Es gibt ein recht frisches Drupalmodul dafür: https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/979640191576166400)
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@indiescripter ↩️ Thanks Manton, your post piqued my interest to track down more: "Why I created https://micro.blog ... open API based on #JSON Feed and #IndieWeb standards". cc/ @ChrisAldrich http://help.micro.blog/2015/why-i-created-this/ (twitter.com/_/status/979650146035154945)
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@jonabaptistella ↩️ @marcthiele @indiewebcamp Sorry but I will not be able to go. I live in Brazil. (twitter.com/_/status/979664546477600768)
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@marcthiele ↩️ Nothing special really. I use @getkirby to run my site and then webmentions, which you can read about at the #indieweb site. Also check for a possible @indiewebcamp on Brasil. (twitter.com/_/status/979669752783220736)
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@jonabaptistella ↩️ @marcthiele @getkirby @indiewebcamp I will. I know you use Kirby. ;-) I was just thinking of the integration between kirby and bridgy. (twitter.com/_/status/979670161522294784)
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@marcthiele ↩️ Nothing special and exactly what is written in the bridgy documentation. One line of code in the header and then one line to integrate the webmentions below your post (plus the styling you want to use of course) (twitter.com/_/status/979670824516014080)
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@jonabaptistella ↩️ Really that simple? I can not believe it. I will check it out. Looks really nice on your website. #getkirby (twitter.com/_/status/979671238665785344)
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@jonabaptistella ↩️ @marcthiele @getkirby @indiewebcamp Thank you for sharing! :) Wish you a perfect day! (twitter.com/_/status/979674058701893634)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ I agree that we don't need to keep reinventing protocols. DNS and web serving are decentralized and robust. We can layer protocols on top for social subscription and notification - WebPub, WebMention and more #indieweb ones (twitter.com/_/status/979675798679445505)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@SarahJamieLewis I agree that we don't need ..." by Kevin Marks on 2018-03-30 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/sarahjamielewis-i-agree-that-we-dont-need
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@kevinmarks ↩️ This sounds a lot like dat - have you looked at Beaker Browser https://beakerbrowser.com/ and Fritter? https://fritter.hashbase.io/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/979678425098014720)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@SarahJamieLewis This sounds a lot like dat ..." by Kevin Marks on 2018-03-30 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/sarahjamielewis-this-sounds-a-lot-like-dat
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@jasoncmcfadden People once "surfed the web;" now they "scroll their feed." #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/979692441547788288)
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[kevinmarks] Warning to UK people who have EU domains https://ec.europa.eu/info/publications/notice-stakeholders-withdrawal-united-kingdom-and-eu-rules-eu-domain-names_en
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petermolnar ...
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petermolnar really not happy about that
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Zegnat I didn't even know it was limited in that way.
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petermolnar neither did I
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petermolnar we really need a .onion, but for the everything, not just tor
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@swentel Figuring out to get some partial funding for working on #indieweb projects: Drupal module and Indigenous. It's huge fun working on them in my spare time, but there's ton of work to make it fully happen (e.g. 53 known issues and growing). Tips welcome! (https://realize.be/notes/1335) (twitter.com/_/status/979711358617948160)
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petermolnar sounds like an ideal time to move it back to a Hungarian registrar and renew it for 10 years
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sknebel TIL co.uk/.uk do not have geographical limits
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sknebel depending on how the individual registries see this, it could get interesting for other TLDs too
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@jasoncmcfadden An RSS revival goes well with a Blog renaissance! #indieweb https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/979708037689741313 (twitter.com/_/status/979716557155852288)
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[kevinmarks] Does wired have a feed?
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I am interested in playing with http://bit.ly/2pGvLDI for my online teaching. Currently we just use http://bit.ly/x4QMx sites pumped into Slack channels using RSS bots. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/979721924141076481)
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sknebel [kevinmarks]: yes, they do have feeds
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@miklb ↩️ @JJJ we have a small but committed WordPress indieweb community and that looks like it would be a nice addition. (twitter.com/_/status/979737097199333376)
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@sdepolo I hope @facebook can rise to the occasion and re-earn our trust. Rather than #deleteFacebook, users can embrace #indieWeb, using FB to drive friend's to our own sites. We have the power here. (twitter.com/_/status/979761422052728832)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @stubbornella Come to Homebrew Website Club in sf this Wednesday and people will help with that feeling https://indieweb.org/events/2018-04-04-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/979769024354504704)
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tantek gosh I better post an indie event then
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aaronpk I really need venue support in quill/my website for posting events
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tantek aaronpk I don't have venue support for my indie events
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tantek so, do you really *need* it?
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aaronpk you don't show a venue at all?
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tantek let me see what I documented
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aaronpk that is something I hadn't even considered 😂
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tantek https://indieweb.org/Falcon#Event
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tantek my event posts are a fork (in code) from my article posts
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tantek moving to dev
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@cleverdevil Yes: Looking forward to attending the San Francisco Homebrew Website Club on April 4th next week!: https://cleverdevil.io/2018/yes-looking-forward-to-attending-the-san-francisco-homebrew-website (twitter.com/_/status/979771706997989376)
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tantek woot!
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Loqi 😃
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[cleverdevil] Happy to present something [tantek] if there's a desire for it.
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tantek [cleverdevil]: absolutely
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@jasoncmcfadden #blogging is creative, independent, and lasting. #indieweb https://jasonjournals.com/2018/03/30/celebrating-the-blog/ (twitter.com/_/status/979780718531416064)
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@DJ_Sylvester Interesting article from the creators of @Glitch (Fog Creek) - The Missing Building Blocks of the Web https://medium.com/@anildash/the-missing-building-blocks-of-the-web-3fa490ae5cbc Make sure to check out the Indieweb's chart of lost infrastructure https://indieweb.org/lost_infrastructure (twitter.com/_/status/979783314688135169)
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skippy Anyone have code handy to convert an export of one's Twitter history into Markdown files? Looking to pull all my tweet history into my own site, finally.
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dgold what format are they in, skippy? xml?
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skippy whatever Twitter ends up exporting to me. I think it's likely going to be json.
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skippy https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/a/2012/your-twitter-archive.html
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petermolnar the last time I exported twitter, it was a gigantic CSV
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skippy even better!
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petermolnar I'm tempted to add a "before" to the lost_infrastructure, with entries like FTP, webrings, etc
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sknebel :)
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snarfed usenet!
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snarfed skippy: granary can give you html, etc. not markdown but close
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kaushalmodi skippy: Curious, why do you need Markdown files? Is the end goal to publish those tweets on your blog?
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skippy kaushalmodi: yes.
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snarfed skippy: here's a similar example for FB from [cleverdevil]: https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/f33530706d6e8dacd13a8bd8e8c15dba
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kaushalmodi Then I might have an answer :)
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kaushalmodi If you get JSON format of your tweets, then half the work is done
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kaushalmodi Then use the Hugo Data parsing feature
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kaushalmodi I did this to translate Disqus comments in JSON to actual formatted comments under my posts: https://gitlab.com/kaushalmodi/hugo-theme-refined/blob/master/layouts/partials/disqus-json.html
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skippy "In the `data` folder, your Twitter archive is present in two formats: JSON and CSV exports by month and year."
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snarfed for granary, it's just `microformats2.object_to_html(twitter.Twitter().tweet_to_object(tweet_json))` for each tweet
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snarfed sorry, should move to #-dev
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kaushalmodi snarfed: Oops did not realize that. skippy: let's discuss further over there.
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-03-30.html
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[miklb] skippy++ for archiving your tweets onto your site
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Loqi skippy has 5 karma in this channel (6 overall)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-03-30.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-03-30.html https://t.co/xI4a41SCKD (twitter.com/_/status/979844478365126656)
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@tomasparksts ↩️ @fsteeg @indieweb #indiewb (twitter.com/_/status/979852392672841728)
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