#indieweb 2018-04-01
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KartikPrabhu davy__++
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Fragmentions for Better Highlighting and Direct References on the Web" http://boffosocko.com/2018/01/23/fragmentions-for-better-highlighting-and-direct-references-the-web/
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chrisaldrich schmarty++ for over a year's dedication to producing https://martymcgui.re/podcasts/indieweb/ on a weekly basis.
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# chrisaldrich What is Ten Days of Twitter?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Ten Days of Twitter" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Ten Days of Twitter is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# chrisaldrich What is #10DoT?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "#10DoT" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "#10DoT is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# chrisaldrich What is 100 Days?
# Loqi 100DaysOfIndieWeb is a challenge to ship something IndieWeb-related every day for 100 days https://indieweb.org/100_days
# chrisaldrich https://10daysoftwitter.wordpress.com/about/ Could be an interesting template for Gen2 people who are indiewebifying...
# chrisaldrich Perhaps for those considering Known or WordPress and who have some technical skill... an outline for creating an indiewebified experience?
# chrisaldrich Ten Days of Twitter, https://10daysoftwitter.wordpress.com/about/, or #10DoT is an online course which, in 10 minutes a day over 10 days, gets participants tweeting and building up your professional network.
# chrisaldrich Let's try that again Loqi...
# chrisaldrich Ten Days of Twitter, https://10daysoftwitter.wordpress.com/about/, is an online course which, in 10 minutes a day over 10 days, gets participants tweeting and building up your professional network.
# KartikPrabhu chrisaldrich: <phrase> is ____
# chrisaldrich I could have sworn there was a way to include the link... going manual...
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[tantek] These are higher numbers than I expected: https://instagram.com/p/Bg_Ug1MBbxl/
# Loqi [ACLU] Twenty-four million Americans don’t have access to high-speed internet at home, either because it’s not available or too expensive. Lack of access to decent broadband is especially bad in low-income or rural areas and communities of color. In gen... https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/89d0835ede50c549b9198764cecb41dc/5B6DE16F/t51.2885-15/e35/29418068_642380812786013_8945290075718025216_n.jpg
# chrisaldrich I would have expected the numbers to be even higher than that. 24M is roughly 6% of America.
# chrisaldrich For comparison: "“Rural areas cover 97 percent of the nation’s land area but contain 19.3 percent of the population (about 60 million people),” Census Bureau Director John H. Thompson said." from https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-210.html
# chrisaldrich I'm curious whether those numbers include people with cell phones as "high-speed"? Building an indie. site on a cell phone is also a bigger feat
# chrisaldrich much less trying to even properly type indiesite on a cell phone properly... lol
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grantcodes Yeah I don't think that is too bad for a huge country (can always improve though). Also "sufficient" is very vague... And doesn't account for people who only ever use a phone to access the internet (which I believe is actually a surprising large amount)
# KartikPrabhu ... and some people still question why folks "just use FB"
# KartikPrabhu and this is only US data
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# KartikPrabhu jacky: not sure there is much of a criterion for "indieweb" compliant
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jacky welp lol looks like there _is_ such a tool https://aaronjorbin.github.io/indiemark-score/
# KartikPrabhu sure that is more of a guideline/goal post that some "ranking"
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# chrisaldrich There's also another tool that does something similar: https://aaronjorbin.github.io/indiemark-score/
# chrisaldrich wow.. that took a while to show up...
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-04-01 https://boffosocko.com/2018/03/31/a-reply-to-heather-sears-post-on-twitter/
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I've done something similar to #10DoT for independent authors before to promote their books, but it could also be an interesting model for helping people to set up #IndieWeb or #DoOO websites as well. The underlying idea is also reminiscent of [more...]
http://boffosocko.com/2018/03/31/a-reply-to-heather-sears-post-on-twitter/ (twitter.com/_/status/980315938045116421)
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# @ChrisAldrich ↩️ This sounds very similar in nature to the long-running Homebrew Website Club concept. It makes me wonder if we couldn't help to better dovetail some of the IndieWeb and DoOO communities' efforts? Perhaps we could utilize [more...]
http://boffosocko.com/2018/03/31/a-reply-to-heather-sears-post-on-twitter/ (twitter.com/_/status/980316431207116800)
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[jeremycherfas] [tantek] I wonder whether ordinary users are interested in your chats with Loqi?
# Loqi [superfeedr] "🔖 IndieWeb Module for Drupal" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-04-01 https://boffosocko.com/2018/03/31/indieweb-module-for-drupal/
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "🔖 IndieWeb Module for Drupal" https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb (from http://boffosocko.com/2018/03/31/indieweb-module-for-drupal/)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "@PhilVincent Just discovered #10DoT and went looking ..." by Jeremy Cherfas on 2018-04-01 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2018/philvincent-just-discovered-10dot-and-went-looking
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@EatPodcast ↩️ Just discovered #10DoT and went looking for your chart. Page not found. Which, to me, suggests the need for an 11th day, devoted to the #indieweb and what it means to own your content. (twitter.com/_/status/980355834134892544)
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@xtof_party ↩️ Bonjour. Ceci n'est un test pour voir si le service @microdotblog fonctionne pour les webmentions *sortantes*. Et vous inviter à me rejoindre pour essayer...
https://microblog.ducamp.me/2018/03/26/gnration-indieweb-et.html#Statut (twitter.com/_/status/980406133365133317)
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# Loqi aaronpk: cweiske left you a message 1 day, 5 hours ago: https://scripter.co/convert-seconds-to-human-time/#webmentions received a webmention written with quill and hosted on commentpara.de. kaushalmodi has a "write a comment" button under the blog posts that enabled that
# maingo aaronpk: What are you making?
# maingo i think product releases will be looked at with skepticism
# maingo blog articles probably less so
# maingo aaronpk: I wonder how many pranks we will even see, we've been living in april fools day land since the election :P
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skippy this is a legit product announcement, specifically timed for 4/1 https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-1111/
# KartikPrabhu how do we know it is legit until tomorrow? ;)
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# [jeremycherfas] It is really difficult, when something comes up in this channel, to stop before replying and think it ought to go elsewhere. Also, I’m a great believer in absorbing things by repeated exposure. So, I have no idea of the subtle differences among feeds, but I also know I don’t really need one.
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# symon1 I'm an absolute beginner wanting to get into my own website and out of FB etc. I've read a lot of Indieweb pages and FAQs but I have a few questions. Is there a more appropriate newbie chat or someone willing to exchange one on one for a bit?
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# KartikPrabhu symon1: this is the chat room for that
# symon1 Thanks. Can I syndicate to FB without having any account or presence there, e.g. via a friend or friend's group?
# symon1 I want to continue FB-like contact with that group of people but would really like to leave FB altogether.
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# symon1 How would FB know that I am not said friend if I am tying my content to them?
# jeremycherfas I'd agree with aaronpk, that's going to be very difficult. One possibility, if your friends on FB are up for it, is to get them either to subscribe to an email newsletter or even a feed of your site.
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# chrisaldrich It's also very likely that by posting content outside of FB that one's friends may be encouraged to do likewise.
# symon1 Yes. Several of those people are also looking for a way to leave it while maintaining the casual content contacts.
# chrisaldrich I suppose one could create a "corporate page" for one's family and share that login/identity and have a "family page" for multiple people instead of dozens of accounts for that many people.
# chrisaldrich Of course, you're more likely to possibly run afoul of FB's terms of service and they could shut you down thereby losing access to such a group.
# chrisaldrich Yet another reason not to be there...
# jeremycherfas Who knows what FB's terms of service are these days? :)
# symon1 Yep and yep but...
# jeremycherfas Can I ask symon1 what would be wrong with maintaining your presence purely as an outlet for certain posts that you originate on your own site? You can reply from your own site too. If you manage your account settings carefully, you could be OK.
# symon1 Yes I'll probably end up maintaining a presence with minimal info. I guess it's a love/hate thing.
# chrisaldrich Something about all of this reminds me of the common parents' expression: "If you live under my roof, you live under my rules."
# jeremycherfas I'm the same, especially on FB. Twitter I do reply to in silo.
# symon1 Wouldn't it be legitimate for someone on FB to have a feed to their favorite off-FB website cause they want their group to benefit from its greatness?
# chrisaldrich By analogy, the IndieWeb in some sense is just the post-high school students on the web saying they're moving out of their parent's house for more freedom.
# jeremycherfas There used to be something like that, because I remember using it. Networked blogs?
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# symon1 I meant that a friend who is not leaving FB could link to my website and/or get it into a group made up of my current FB friends. That should be legit because they like my site and want FB friends to get the benefit of seeing it, so to speak.
# jeremycherfas This is the thing I was thinking of https://www.networkedblogs.com
# jeremycherfas But I'm no longer sure it works as I remember.
# jeremycherfas In fact, it looks like a disaster.
# symon1 Yeah, that looks as though I'd still need my FB account or everyone else would need to be doing networkblogs.
# jeremycherfas Sorry I mentioned it.
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# chrisaldrich In the vein of jeremycherfas' comment, there are some interesting experiments in the wild with multi-site WordPress with things like https://edublogs.org/ or /DoOO which have integrated readers for those participating.
# chrisaldrich Having some super solid /readers is going to be one of the last major hurdles for the indieweb.
# chrisaldrich aaronpk++ for helping us all get this far and for charting the way forward with /microsub ;)
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@Shoq .@kevinmarks So, now that @Facebook's silo-fascism has dramatically validated the core premises of @indieweb, has there been any new interest in the concept? (twitter.com/_/status/980558419366211584)
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@jackyalcine Testing a IndieWeb bridge for a link on my site https://jacky.wtf/weblog/why-i-code-the-start/ (twitter.com/_/status/980568053208371200)
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