#indieweb 2018-04-02
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dansup mblaney: what type of project?
# dansup mblaney: interesting, for fiat or crypto?
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@TaylorJadin ↩️ This sounds very interesting as there is a lot of crossover between the underlying principles of #DoOO and #IndieWeb. I would definitely be interested in getting Open Domains Lab listed on https://indieweb.org/Events (twitter.com/_/status/980603085004394498)
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# @TaylorJadin ↩️ I’ve also tossed around the idea of a chat platform if Open Domains Lab had enough participation. It would make sense to leverage the community already behind IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/980627124724883456)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The Ones Who Walk Away from Facebook" by Roland Turner on 2018-04-02 https://medium.com/@rolandturner/the-ones-who-walk-away-from-facebook-4bb5363c99fb?source=rss-------1
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@drupal8modules New #alpha version released for #drupal8 #module indieweb (8.x-1.0-alpha3). More info: https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/980706506411794432)
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@xtof_party A comme @adactio (https://adactio.com/articles/10887)
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Merci et 👏 Jeremy.
You’re my rel=’muse’
Micro Monday #indieweb recommendation (twitter.com/_/status/980707321742528512)
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@swentel ↩️ And alpha 3 is out. Lot's of new features, subtle bug fixes - should be fine if you're already using it - upgrade path at least worked on my site :) https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb/releases/8.x-1.0-alpha3 (twitter.com/_/status/980710991049699328)
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "A comme @adactio ( https://adactio.com/articles/10887 )
Pause à 36’42 pour suivre avec la transcription.
Merci et Jeremy.
You’re my rel=’muse’
Micro Monday #indieweb recommendationpic.twitter.com/Ky1IWWNKf2" by (@xtof_party) on 2018-04-02 https://twitter.com/xtof_party/status/980707321742528512
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@sl007 ↩️ Somehow it feels like http://indieweb.org is missing even if it is not an organization but a movement … Let's meet https://indieweb.org/Events (twitter.com/_/status/980732262709907456)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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@t ↩️ great post. Insightful, agreed on "two fronts".
Re: reduce use of Facebook, some steps: https://indieweb.org/Facebook#How_to_wean_yourself_from
Here’s also a page to help reduce appaccess to FB login, more: https://indieweb.org/appaccess
Reply sent from my indieweb site
http://tantek.com/t4ti1 (twitter.com/_/status/980746483317305344)
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@kevinmarks “I think we will dig through this hole, but it will take a few years,” Zuckerberg said.
Has Zuck been so isolated from criticism that no one ever said "when you're in a hole, stop digging" to him? #indieweb https://www.vox.com/2018/4/2/17185052/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-interview-fake-news-bots-cambridge (twitter.com/_/status/980759059543465984)
# Loqi [superfeedr] "“I think we will dig through this ..." by Kevin Marks on 2018-04-02 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/i-think-we-will-dig-through-this
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# @kevinmarks ↩️ If you want some particularly Web focused thinking on decentralised systems, have a look at https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/980783067123023872)
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KartikPrabhu why not?
# radedwork You could self-host and POSSE service that you also embed as the apparent default in your own site.
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# radedwork If you use YouTube you could probably even get something in place that checks whether the embed is working properly and then removes it in favor of your self hosted one if it fails.
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "Read Write Respond #027" on 2018-04-02 https://mrkrndvs.tumblr.com/post/172517443232
# KartikPrabhu davy__: lot of things don't work if your browser is "ancient" enough
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aaronpk everything has supported <video> since like 2010 apparently https://caniuse.com/video
# radedwork So you can have the <video> on the page hidden (for js users anyway) and then write some js to display it in response to either the youtube js being missing or throwing an error.
# radedwork ah yes sorry
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# radedwork Does that seem like HyperCard?
# radedwork I don't actually know what using HyperCard was like when it was popular...
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[kevinmarks] It was pre-web so hard to think about in current terms. You had stacks that had cards in, and a gui editor. You could draw on them and add fields and buttons. There were scripts in buttons, cards, backgrounds and stacks, with event triggering.
# [kevinmarks] The coding language, HyperTalk was carefully crafted to read like English and also to be consistent in the same kind of way that python is consistent.
# [kevinmarks] You could do that kind of thing with hypercard, but colour was along time later.
# radedwork I guess I was thinking that the end user experience for HyperCard (cards) was similar to what Medium's Series appears to be doing. It looks like yet another silo experience for now though
# radedwork *silo specific
# [kevinmarks] Stacks were editable by default, but if on a locked medium (locked floppy, cd-rom) you'd have to save it elsewhere if you changed them. Later there was a permissions model to stop people editing them by accident, but a lot of hypercard stacks were in effect databases for other users
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# [kevinmarks] The closest web thing I can think of is Mavo, but that still has HTML syntax underneath
# radedwork I've been thinking about downloading one of the emulators to look at the archives, but I have so many other things that are higher priority
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[cleverdevil] I *loved* HyperCard. Honestly, it taught me to program.
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
# [cleverdevil] There hasn't really been anything since that compares 1:1.
# [cleverdevil] Morning [gregorlove]
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# [cleverdevil] Glitch is cool, for sure 🙂
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# symon1 Back with another beginner's question re syndication, etc. to FB. The idea of a reader was mentioned yesterday, perhaps a bit wistfully, so I went looking for more info. In the context of our discussion does this refer to something that could pick up and bring to my website FB postings by others in addition to the POSSE reply returns?
# KartikPrabhu what is reader?
# Loqi A reader (or indie reader) in the context of the indieweb is the portion/feature integrated into an indieweb site that provides a way to read content from other indieweb sites, possibly including posts from the current site as well https://indieweb.org/reader
# KartikPrabhu symon1: ^
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# symon1 Yes, I read that page about readers after chrisaldrich mentioned it yesterday but I got the feeling there was some notion of reading from places other than IndieWeb sites, e.g. Facebook postings. Not so?
# [kevinmarks] There are tools for converting other formats
# [kevinmarks] What is granary?
# Loqi granary is a library and REST API that frees you from social network snowflake API and exposes the sweet social data foodstuff inside as HTML and JSON with microformats2, ActivityStreams, JSON Feed, Atom, XML, and more https://indieweb.org/granary
# KartikPrabhu right, but not sure if any reader does that yet
# [kevinmarks] I have given woodwind granary urls in the past
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# Loqi [superfeedr] "👓 It’s Time For an RSS Revival | Wired" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-03-30 https://boffosocko.com/2018/03/30/its-time-for-an-rss-revival-wired/
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chrisaldrich symon1, snarfed has a suite of tools that one can use to get atom feeds out of facebook, twitter, G+, and instagram: https://facebook-atom.appspot.com/
# chrisaldrich With a tiny amount of set up work, you can export your feeds from these silos to be read on most extant feed readers
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# [kevinmarks] This looks worth reading https://twitter.com/random_walker/status/980870981173596160?s=19
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@random_walker "Blockchain" here seems to mean "decentralized personal data". We looked at about 80 such projects and concluded that: 1. It's far harder to pull off than it sounds 2. Even if you can get adoption, it's unlikely that decentralization will improve privacy http://randomwalker.info/publications/critical-look-at-decentralization-v1.pdf https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/980811595424071680 (twitter.com/_/status/980870981173596160)
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@carstenpoetter Schon fast ein Jahr alt, aber kann man ja noch einmal lesen, wenn jetzt eine RSS-Renaissance ausgerufen wird. - Feed reader revolution: it's time to embrace open & disrupt social media - http://boffosocko.com/2017/06/09/how-feed-readers-can-grow-market-share-and-take-over-social-media/ #rss #IndieWeb http://altplatform.org/2017/06/09/feed-reader-revolution/ (twitter.com/_/status/980900331696553984)
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@rolandturner ↩️ I will be reading the entirety of the IndieWeb material in the next few weeks, am pleased to hear that this topic in particular is dealt with directly! (Some interesting ideas on single-function use, thanks, will experiment.) (twitter.com/_/status/980951805394698240)
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