#indieweb 2018-04-22

2018-04-22 UTC
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tantek Wow. Today in silos gonna silo: https://twitter.com/branaby/status/987206339268169728 citation: https://www.eventbrite.com/support/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/eventbrite-merchant-agreement?lg=en_US#8
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@branaby Wow. I guess it’s time we all stopped using @eventbrite. They claim the right to attend your event, film it, and own the copyright. https://www.eventbrite.com/support/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/eventbrite-merchant-agreement?lg=en_US#8 (twitter.com/_/status/987206339268169728)
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tantek WTF
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tantek that seems worth putting up a warning on /Eventbrite about
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KartikPrabhu wait wth!
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KartikPrabhu that is overreaching to a new level
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aaronpk wat
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aaronpk holy crap
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aaronpk welp good thing i'm not already in the habit of using them for ticketing
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tantek ok I take that as yes worth adding a warning
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tantek wow: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/21/world/asia/facebook-sri-lanka-riots.html Where Countries Are Tinderboxes and Facebook Is a Match
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tantek "Time and again, communal hatreds overrun the newsfeed — the primary portal for news and information for many users — unchecked as local media are displaced by Facebook and governments find themselves with little leverage over the company. Some users, energized by hate speech and misinformation, plot real-world attacks."
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tantek so basically algorithmic feeds have become amplifiers for hate and fear
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tantek "A reconstruction of Sri Lanka’s descent into violence, based on interviews with officials, victims and ordinary users caught up in online anger, found that Facebook’s newsfeed played a central role in nearly every step from rumor to killing. Facebook officials, they say, ignored repeated warnings of the potential for violence"
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tantek Eventbrite << WARNING: https://twitter.com/branaby/status/987206339268169728 citation: https://www.eventbrite.com/support/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/eventbrite-merchant-agreement?lg=en_US#8
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@branaby Wow. I guess it’s time we all stopped using @eventbrite. They claim the right to attend your event, film it, and own the copyright. https://www.eventbrite.com/support/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/eventbrite-merchant-agreement?lg=en_US#8 (twitter.com/_/status/987206339268169728)
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Loqi ok, I added "WARNING: https://twitter.com/branaby/status/987206339268169728 citation: https://www.eventbrite.com/support/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/eventbrite-merchant-agreement?lg=en_US#8" to the "See Also" section of /Eventbrite https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=47113&oldid=33544
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tantek wow there is so much in that NYT article. so sad that algorithmic feeds have essentially become amplifiers and catalysts of so much violence. so messed up
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@andrewsreading ✌ @Reading "Micropub - IndieWeb" http://ing.am/p/4XRo (twitter.com/_/status/987873580020006912)
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[kevinmarks] This is a consequence of the excitement over the Arab Spring
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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@swentel Managed to complete the dance of creating an event and rsvp'ing through #Indigenous, then displaying attendees on the #Drupal side. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/987987152691761152)
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dgold tantek - its pretty much par for the course of what facebook _does_
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dgold its just that at the periphery, the network effects are amplified, so you get Trump, LePen & Genocide
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schmarty From meta: anyone here been to the WWW conference? I’m attending the workshop and tutorial days tomorrow and Tuesday in Lyon.
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schmarty It’s my first WWW so I am not sure what to expect. If there’s space I will try to sit in on the SOLID workshop to see if I can grok that better. I think rhiaro will be there?
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rhiaro hey schmarty, yep I will be
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Loqi rhiaro: tantek left you a message on 2018-02-21 at 8:30pm UTC: if you have posts on your site for acts of donation (stuff or $), add them to https://indieweb.org/donation#IndieWeb_Examples
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rhiaro I didn't know there was a Solid workshop tbh. I'll be at the Decentralised Scholarly Comm one on Tuesday. I don't have a ticket for Monday. I'm going to journalism and misinformation on Weds, and chairing the dev track on Thursday
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rhiaro But for the next two hours I'm in a vegan cat cafe in Lyon :)
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rhiaro schmarty: I expect there will be space in the workshops, usually it's a ghost town. It's all very academic. You might prefer the dev track. There's always a lot of super terrible stuff about profiling and ads and general money-making stuff that makes me blegh
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Zegnat SOLID workshop would be interesting, no matter how often I tried to look into it, it never clicked with me, haha
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schmarty hey rhiaro! i am on a train from Paris to Lyon right now. the cat cafe sounds *amazing*.
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jeremycherfas hello IndieWeb
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schmarty ah, i saw your name on the program committee for the Linked Data on the Web session tomorrow (http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2018/).
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schmarty my ticket is for monday and tuesday, which are also the days that my wife is speaking at Web For All. we plan on touring Lyon on Wednesday. :}
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schmarty we leave on Thursday so i'll miss most of the conference proper.
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rhiaro unfortunately being on PC doesn't entitle you to a free ticket. I am only attending days I could wrangle for free because of chairing/helping etc
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rhiaro I'll probably go to the LDOW dinner
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rhiaro the cat cafe *is* amazing. My laptop and brownie are covered in hair
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[kimberlyhirsh] Good morning IndieWeb!
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schmarty rhiaro: that is somewhat annoying about the ticket. i am taking my two day ticket as a business expense, so i hope i learn something, haha. overall i have found the bureaucracy of TheWebConf difficult to navigate. 😂
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rhiaro overall I think the organisational stuff has been pretty good this year. First year they let you choose individual days to attend, which was nice
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[kimberlyhirsh] rhiaro: I'm glad you mentioned the Decentralized Schol Comm session. I won't be at the conference but will definitely follow that session (& Linked Research more generally) with interest.
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rhiaro kimberlyhirsh: I'll be live minuting it, probably in an etherpad. i'll try to remember to drop you a link here, but if I forget it should be on the website for the session anyway
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rhiaro https://linkedresearch.org/events/the-web-conf-2018/
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schmarty oh wow! choosing the days is definitely a nice feature over paying for the entire conference, haha.
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rhiaro most seem to let you choose 2 workshop days, 3 main days, or all 5 days
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Zegnat can think of very few places he would be less comfortable than at a cat cafe
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rhiaro as you typed that Zegnat I was thinking about how delighted I was that to reach for my brownie I had to brush my arm past a sleeping kitty
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Zegnat I already had to reevaluate life when a single dog showed up to IWC Berlin *shudder*
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rhiaro allergies?
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Zegnat Pure fear
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rhiaro That sucks
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Zegnat It does let me have a phobia property on my h-card. Ha.
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rhiaro that's useful
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rhiaro also great segue to back on topic
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Zegnat One could make an accessibility arguement, saying this is all on topic ;)
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Zegnat Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/events/2018-05-02-homebrew-website-club and IWC Düsseldorf! https://indieweb.org/2018/Düsseldorf. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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@drupal8modules New #alpha version released for #drupal8 #module indieweb (8.x-1.0-alpha5). More info: https://www.drupal.org/project/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/988037319935561728)
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skippy https://sungo.wtf/2018/04/20/a-rant-about-git.html
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skippy interesting observations there.
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GWG I just like that people can post a 'listen-of' to my fledgling podcast now... https://david.shanske.com/2018/04/16/an-indieweb-podcast-episode-1-leaving-facebook/
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aaronpk oh nice, you recognize listening posts specifically!
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GWG I wonder what other podcast features I can implement. That's part of my goal in doing one on my site without other tools...to make the experience better
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GWG aaronpk: All WordPress sites do now
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aaronpk I had no idea! that's great
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GWG With the 'listen-of' or 'watch-of' property
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jeremycherfas That is truly great. But the feature most want is nothing to do with indie: better audio quality.
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GWG I should start posting a... TWITGWGDTYMNN "This Week in Things GWG Did That You Might Not Notice"
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jeremycherfas A microcast!
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GWG jeremycherfas: My recording rig is half dismantled on the floor
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Loqi yea
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GWG I have to crawl under my desk and pull the wires through
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aaronpk GWG: simple solution: write a short blog post each time you release a feature and then submit it to indienews and then schmarty will read it out for you!
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jeremycherfas I think Chris is actually the half that needs more work.
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GWG aaronpk: I need to write that code that turns Indienews into a syndication target
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aaronpk or just add a link to it on the wiki
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GWG But [unoabraham] pushed me to do something about the Microformats 2 plugin. I'm building in an off switch. I cannot make it work properly 100% of the time as it is impossible to control what the theme does.
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GWG I'm hoping to finish that today, and start designing the syndication target code
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[kevinmarks] What's the audio quality problem?
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jeremycherfas Mic placement, mostly. Sounds of heavy breathing. He's also too loud in the mix, but that's of an issue for me. Of course, this is only my opinion. I'd be interested to know what others think.
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GWG On episode 1 or 2?
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GWG I recalibrated after the first
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GWG But I am rewiring today
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jeremycherfas I'm talking about episode 1. (And 0, but we've already talked about that.) I have not yet listened to 2.
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GWG Tell me about 2 when you get a chance
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dgold really wishes more podcasters would either invest in popguards or learn how to place the mic to avoid the issue
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dgold if you mic is in front of your face, you need a pop guard. end of discussion
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[stefp] [jeremycherfas] The latest one is absolutely fine.
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jeremycherfas doesn't entirely agree with dgold, but that's the way the smart money bets.
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jeremycherfas Thanks Stefp; good to know.
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GWG I have a pop guard actually
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jeremycherfas As I said, the problem, for me, is at Chris' end.
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dgold GWG: my comment isn't directed at you (or anyone) specificly
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dgold just that _loads_ of podcasters don't use popguards
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dgold jeremycherfas: also a huge thing - recording bad skype calls on the receiving end
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jeremycherfas -> chat
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GWG I was just mentioning that I did have one
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GWG I need to fix some hardware issues though
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@JmacDotOrg Fogknife : Announcing two new IndieWeb modules for Perl (3 minute read) http://fogknife.com/2018-04-22-announcing-two-new-indieweb-modules-for-perl.html (twitter.com/_/status/988096834995441664)
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@shadowcat_mst This is fascinating and well worth a look. Shall have to try and remember to RT the post talking more about indieweb in general once jmac finds the CFT to write it. (twitter.com/_/status/988097523159109632)
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@ChrisAldrich This week, @dshanske and I discuss IndieAuth and the #WordPress plugin’s new functionality as well as some related micropub work David has been doing. #IndieWeb #podcast http://boffosocko.com/2018/04/18/an-indieweb-podcast-episode-2-indieauth/ (twitter.com/_/status/988122160081264640)
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tantek Happy Earth Day #indieweb!
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aaronpk 🌎
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GWG Time to make a Holiday Post Type?
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[eddie] !tell GWG super excited that you recognize listen posts!! Am looking forward to listening to episodes 1 and 2 and sending you listen posts!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG [eddie]: Thank you
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Loqi GWG: [eddie] left you a message 7 minutes ago: super excited that you recognize listen posts!! Am looking forward to listening to episodes 1 and 2 and sending you listen posts!
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@adventure_ext August 14th Meetup Building The Indieweb - Shared from http://Effaustin.org. [http://effaustin.org/2017/07/august-14th-meetup-building-the-indieweb/] https://t.co/WZA4RUZjdY (twitter.com/_/status/988171220834308096)
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@kimberlyhirsh When my mind is sharp, I work on my comprehensive exams. When it's fuzzy but not dull, I work on IndieWeb stuff. When it's dull, I work on my podcast. When my body has energy, I tidy. When I'm ready to trade outputs for inputs  I listen to podcasts. In… http://kimberlyhirsh.com/t/1E5 (twitter.com/_/status/988194714129256448)
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@tonious ↩️ The #indieweb people are doing some good, but anything that requires maintenance will have trouble competing with big centralized services. (twitter.com/_/status/988205289123000325)
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