#indieweb 2018-05-07

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@m_ott ↩️ Back in the hotel after a wonderful day at the @indiewebcamp and the @btconf warmup. It was so great seeing all of you today (again)! 🤗 – See you tomorrow! (twitter.com/_/status/993285237814759424)
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@m_ott Back in the hotel after a wonderful day at the @indiewebcamp and the @btconf warmup. It was so great seeing all of you today (again)! 🤗 – See you tomorrow! (twitter.com/_/status/993285476923699200)
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GWG I need some help with some text.
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GWG "Respond on your own site? Send me a <a href="http://indieweb.org/webmention">Webmention</a> by writing something on your website that links to this post and then enter your post URL below."
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GWG This is the default text for the webmention form on WordPress. I want to update it to include update/delete
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GWG Any suggestions?
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GWG I was thinking of going with... "Respond on your own site, link to this post and enter the URL below to link it below. Want to update or remove the mention, just enter it again to update."
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[jeremycherfas] You don’t need the final “to update”. But I do think you need to make the first phrase a question.
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sketchess good morning Loqi, good morning Indieweb.
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sketchess Wow what happend to HWC?
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sketchess greetings
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sknebel Good morning Indieweb! Good morning sketchess!
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swentel morning
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Loqi good morning!
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[jeremycherfas] Hi sketchess; good to see you again.
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@swentel ↩️ Hmm, maybe I should come then too, going to build something into the IndieWeb module for this (or at least guidelines) (twitter.com/_/status/993439364347781120)
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@jgmac1106 Great post but I think you sell short how much organizing the #indieweb community has done over the last 7-10 years. Getting to this point to massive organization from committed enthusiasts. What we need is not more organization but more organizers… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/great-post-but-i-think-you-sell-short-how-much (twitter.com/_/status/993441634900631558)
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jgmac1106 morning all
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sknebel Morning!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Every teacher should start blogging, and thosewho have been blogging for some time should learn about the #indieweb. Now that you control your data its time to build the community. Recruiting #ctedu #literacies #edtechtalk folks who want to… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/swartz19-every-teacher-should-start-blogging-and-thosewho-have-been (twitter.com/_/status/993444031274221568)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I think #indieweb and #digped would play nice together. Our focus #doo, ethical tech, student data, and privacy make us ideal partners. So much I won't even give you antecedents. https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/993486240409305088 You can see examples of past interviews (user… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/i-think-indieweb-and-digped-would-play-nice-together-our (twitter.com/_/status/993487861449080832)
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@JmacDotOrg Fogknife : A bit of IndieWeb pushback (3 minute read) http://fogknife.com/2018-05-07-a-bit-of-indieweb-pushback.html (twitter.com/_/status/993488237166518272)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "A bit of IndieWeb pushback" http://fogknife.com/2018-05-07-a-bit-of-indieweb-pushback.html
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@voxpelli ↩️ @jkphl @indiewebcamp 🎉 Looks like a great camp, strengthening to see so many of you there! One day I will rejoin 😄 (twitter.com/_/status/993494594049445888)
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@jkphl ↩️ @voxpelli @indiewebcamp Please do — looking forward to it! (twitter.com/_/status/993495242937643008)
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jgmac1106 in terms of the talk of gdpr and the pixelation of webmentions could there be something like a “posse class” in an h-card to signify loose memberships. Meaning. something like <span class=“posse”>indieweb</span> and that would signify I am cool with any other site that was in the same posse with publishing my full webmentions?
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[sebsel] gwg++ (because [chrisaldrich] told me to do so in their very nice podcast :) )
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Loqi gwg has 234 karma in this channel (344 overall)
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[kevinmarks] Hm. That would be p-posse, but wouldn't that be a kind of organisation?
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ If you are a WordPress blogger (onboarding research starting there) and want to try out #indieweb I would love to have you in the study. #digped #ds106 #edtechchat #edchat Please note all data will be released with a CC 0 Public Domain… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/warwicklanguage-if-you-are-a-wordpress-blogger-onboarding-research-starting (twitter.com/_/status/993529543620112384)
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[kevinmarks] so p-org
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[kevinmarks] We have tried showing group membership with http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-directory but that didn't get a lot of uptake
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jgmac1106 [kevinmarks] yeah I was playing with the metaphor, I dodn’t want to do org as it that signifies soemthign formal. I mean what if its just ten people who like to call themselves the friends of purple buttons”
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jgmac1106 and now as a post GDPR, I want to know if there is soemway to signify yeah I am vool with you displaying my stuff wherever you want
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jgmac1106 but if there was a way to say I am cool with “you” but not everyone displaying my webmentions maybe there is a use case
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Zegnat u-license to a CC URL would mean you are fine with your content copied and displayed elsewhere.
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[kevinmarks] That sounds more like a license
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jeremycherfas I'm really not sure I understand any possible reticence about displaying webmentions. Surely if ytou don't want them displayed, you just don't send them?
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jeremycherfas Like cross-posting everywhere. If you don't want to do it, don't do it.
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jgmac1106 yeah but not just the content, I am thinking about webmentions and all the talk of GDPR solutions what if there was a class in my h-card or h-entry that said I am cool with anyone elee who also have the same class in their h-card or h-entry publishing my full webmentions without pixelating or hiding any personal data
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jgmac1106 I could be way out of left field on this one. Just a random idea
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jgmac1106 [gRegorLive] I still do. Not sure why. Their rss bundles don’t actually produce an RSS feed
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jeremycherfas Yeah, I know wherte you're coming from. I just wonder why it is an issue for anyone who creates a response that could be a webmention. Either make it one, or don't. The automated backfeed by brid.gy is the only case I can think of where this is an issue, and it seems rum to me for someone to think that it is OK for everyone to see it on Twitter, but not OK for fewer people to see it on someone's domain.
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[kevinmarks] But anyone else could send them on your behalf
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jgmac1106 I agree, and I don’t live in Europe or have any current EU clients on my server, so it is a non issue for me. I also share a simialr view of privacy. If its published on a web and somebody uses that data in ways that don’t violate ToS then tough. You give up some privacy when you hit publish and the free speech, or the finduciary responsibilities of the platform of chpice, now outweigh that privacy…but again many don’t sh
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jgmac1106 my philosophy of speech over privacy
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[kevinmarks] They aren't signed or anything
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jgmac1106 [kevinmarks] yeah that is strange seeing the “hey if you see anyoen talking about my articles” also send me a webmention
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[kevinmarks] You could write a licence that limits it to a group, but there is still a fair use/fair dealing possibility for displaying your mention.
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[kevinmarks] I'll defer to dgold here, but the corollary of the "right to deletion" model is the assumption that you're indexable by default
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jeremycherfas I don't understand, kevinmarks. If I see someone else commenting on your article, and I comment on my site saying I saw someone commenting on your article, isn't that webmention from me?
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jeremycherfas Or are you talking about the case where someone pastes in the URL of an article not their own into my webmention box?
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[kevinmarks] No, I mean if I see someone commenting on your article and linking to you, I can send a webmention for them.
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jeremycherfas Where are you sending it from?
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jgmac1106 but would that webmention include any bit of the hcard from you sending the webmention on someone’s behalf or only the hcard of the person who cmmented on my article
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KartikPrabhu jeremycherfas: jgmac1106: webmention canbe sent by any POST request from any page as source
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KartikPrabhu so you can send webmention from the command line if you want
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KartikPrabhu webmentions don't include any h-card. they only include the URL of the source and target pages
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benwerd hey, loqi, any messages?
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benwerd cool
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jgmac1106 [KartikParbhu] so when folks want to pixelate a picture that image is coming from Twitter and not the photo class int he hcard?
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: I don't know what you mean
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jeremycherfas On the face of it, I'd say that as the person commenting on my article, your beef is with the person who sent the webmention. But I can see that malicious intent is a possibility.
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jgmac1106 Sorry just catching up on a week’s worth of reading and the indieweb pixelate your face to comply with GDPR convo was interesting. trying to understand it
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jeremycherfas It always is!
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KartikPrabhu hcards are not in the webmention request. They are obtained later by processing the webmention
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[kevinmarks] Eg mastodon doesn't send webmentions, but I sent one from https://mastodon.social/@kevinmarks/56465 to http://www.kevinmarks.com/distributed-verify.html
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Not having anywhere to put a url in the profile, mastodon can't support distributed verification. http://www.kevinmarks.com/distributed-verify.html
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jgmac1106 [KartikPrabhu] was call back to this article: https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/indieweb-privacy-challenge-webmentions-backfeeds-gdpr/
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: sure, but the point is webmentions don't care who is sending them (unless you log that ip address) and don't have any other information than the source and target URL pages
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jgmac1106 okay thanks
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KartikPrabhu also reportedly that article is not very accurate. dgold wrote a response https://ascraeus.org/micro/1525556293/ and https://ascraeus.org/micro/1525621286/
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sebsel In a way, it's not about the webmention itself at all. The webmention is just a nudge that there is something to find about page A on page B.
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Loqi [Daniel Goldsmith] Sebastian, first of all, thank you for your detailed write up on this issue. I think much of your roadmap is worthwhile, and of great interest. I cannot, however, say that I am convinced by your contentions regarding the effect of GDPR and indieweb ...
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[kevinmarks] Hi benwerd
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benwerd waves
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sebsel The fuzz is more about displaying information after you've been nudged.
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KartikPrabhu sebsel: yes
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sebsel And one could argue that adding microformats is an indication you're okay with other people using that info.
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KartikPrabhu or probably even if you don't display, storing it
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sebsel The biggest problem to me is the backfeed.
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sebsel (please note that I'm a different Sebastian than sgreger :P)
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KartikPrabhu sebsel: there it would the silo which provides the API or something no?
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jgmac1106 hey [benwerd]
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sebsel yeah, but there are way more steps involved and is much less clear to the poster of the content.
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jgmac1106 at [sesbel] keeping that definition. That is a great elevator definition
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[kevinmarks] But Twitter explicitly gets to agree that others can embed your tweets
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[kevinmarks] *gets you to agree
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[kevinmarks] If you don't agree you go private, which is the case jgmac is talking about, where only those you ha e allowed to follow can see them
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jeremycherfas But one of those private followers can send you a webmention? In which case, again, I suggest your beef is with them.
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sebsel jeremycherfas There is no webmention on twitter at the moment? I think you're mixing things up.
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snarfed also, assuming no one has already pointed out, we've regularly been conflating the *ethics* of all this with the *GDPR legal compliance*. worth remembering that they're maybe a bit related, but very different.
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dgold I'm afraid I can't follow any of this present kerfuffle
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snarfed (imho the ethics are definitely worth our time to think about! GDPR...maybe less so.)
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jeremycherfas No. Someone private on twitter links to, for example, a post I wrote. One of their tweeps sends me their tweet as a webmention.
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dgold how?
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KartikPrabhu jeremycherfas: if it is private you can't access the tweet anyway
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jeremycherfas Yeah dgold, I'm not sure why I am.
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sebsel jeremycherfas In that way, it's not possible to send a webmention. The source needs to be open.
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dgold if its private then its not accessible to any backfeed processes
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jgmac1106 i must say, while theoretically possible, I have never gotten a webmention from someone else about someone different discussin ghwat I post
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dgold the only way would be if someone went to your site, and told your site that they had created a tweet
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dgold (via input box)
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jeremycherfas So they send it -- I assume it has a URL -- but then as a receiver you cannot do anything with that. OK, I was mistaken about that.
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jeremycherfas Sorry
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jgmac1106 in fact most wenbmentions that end up on my site must people probably don’t even know they are there. I think that is part of the broader ethical conversation. Do they have a right to know they were mentioned on my blog and b do I have a repsonsibility to remive webmention if askes.
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sebsel Bridgy actually creates new pages with the content that's on the silo's. The webmention is sent, with those pages as targets, not the original content.
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jeremycherfas I think I'm going to wait until I get a complaint, and then deal with it if I can.
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snarfed jeremycherfas++
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[eddie] But Bridgy only does that for public tweets
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[eddie] I agree, I think if you are posting on a public twitter account or have marked up your site with mf2, it’s a non-issue
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jgmac1106 I won’t get a complaint just having fun thinking, if there was some sort of membership class could I tehn have fun back on my blog like add this border radius if the person shares the same mebership calss. Not that I could but fun future to think about
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KartikPrabhu hmm how does one complain to some website to remove their webmention?
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sebsel [eddie] And likes! But I suppose these are public as well
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[eddie] I think the real issue is putting mf2 into public themes in open source projects
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[eddie] Which we need to do to gain greater adoption but then we are opting people into this
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jeremycherfas My email is on my site KartikPrabhu
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KartikPrabhu jeremycherfas: yes, so are new now supposed to have contact info?
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KartikPrabhu we now*
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jgmac1106 Again while agree , that public is public we must remember that people may not perceive their quasi public spaces that way. If for example a student said, “My teacher is so bad, look what this professor said about how yoiu should teach. He does none of that [link to my post] and now I get a webmention does that person have a right to know their tweet shows on my blog?
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KartikPrabhu sounds like the whole impressum stuff
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jeremycherfas It does indeed. And I would say that unless it is compulsory, you make your own decision.
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[eddie] If the tweet does not link to your post it doesn’t pass Webmention verification
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jgmac1106 they may even be using a finsta account and a tag that only their friends know about
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dgold jgmac1106: if they've posted to a public silo, then its public
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tantek whoa scrollback
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dgold again: etchics vs. law
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dgold but legally, I don't see an issue
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jgmac1106 [dgold] legally I agree, but ethically….jinx
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jeremycherfas Me neither, but I don't have your standing
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jeremycherfas And of course, there are no absolutes in ethics.
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jgmac1106 people always conflate corporations with free speech without realizing that in the US legally corporations are the same etntity ads people since I think 1864
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jgmac1106 therefore it is in their free speech rights to allow or not allow almost 100of whatever speech they want, of course having a legal fiduciary repsoninbility to stakeholders probably reduces most hate speech the privledged see
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jgmac1106 Edventually Twitter will probably turn off the APIS (like facebook) that make this all possible and it will be a moot point
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tantek jgmac1106: which API? HTTP to retrieve HTML from a URL permalink? ;)
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[eddie] tantek: the twitter API for Bridgy
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tantek also encourages any questions/discussions of API and (micro)formats and protocols to please migrate to #indieweb-dev
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jgmac1106 [tantek] sounds like a future board game. API deprecation: Th
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snarfed scraping--
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jgmac1106 ’s it kids, “See how far you can get while still playing nice with silos”
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jgmac1106 will do was just trying to keep it philosophical and given my lack of dev knowledge with this stuff I hate moving discussions there. Fugre thats a place for code not questions
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tantek jgmac1106: indeed, and as soon as you feel tempted to say "microformat" or propose one, definitely jump to dev with that please :)
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jgmac1106 I did go here to try and determine what made bridgy work with Twitter behind the scenes: https://indieweb.org/Bridgy
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snarfed um, the API :P
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jgmac1106 [tantek] ahh good filter
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jgmac1106 [snarfed] I had assumed so but then I saw you take away karma from scraping and didn’t get the reference
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snarfed that was re tantek's "what API, fetching HTML from a URL" msg :P
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snarfed bridgy does still scrape twitter HTML to get favorites since none of their APIs (still!) fetch that yet :(
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snarfed oh btw jgmac1106, re http://fogknife.com/2018-05-04-i-believe-in-the-indieweb-it-needs-to-believe-in-itself.html , i officially nominate you to come up with proposal(s) for indieweb next steps toward a non-profit and any other structure you think we'd benefit from!
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snarfed especially since you've clearly done it yourself before, and seen its benefits
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jgmac1106 [snarfed] no structure, no non-profit, that means boards and org charts and a bunch of other stuff to slow down innovation
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jgmac1106 but that sounds like more meta
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snarfed sure, ok. i nominate you to come up with a proposal for the next steps you think we *should* take!
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snarfed agreed, to #-meta
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tantek quite meta
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tantek snarfed: I think you may have mistaken who wrote that post. I believe jmac is fogknife.com
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snarfed ahhh apologies if so
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snarfed cc jmac ^!
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tantek snarfed, there was some discussion Friday: https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2018-05-05#t1525487765601300
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Loqi [jmac] Nate Cull's attitude on Twitter is admittedly rather more acid than I would have employed, but it does back up my observation that literally nobody I know outside of these IRC channels (and the one blogger I follow who got me into it) has heard of In...
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snarfed great!
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jgmac1106 this is what is quite different in the education blogging circles. As indieweb has grown over the last 12 years so have educational bloggers. Might be one of the few corners of the web still functioing in a blogosphere. Many are aware of the #indieweb stuff but don’t know how it works or tried way to early before WordPress plug-ins were mature.
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jgmac1106 There is also a built in commuity that share core values, andits the community I know
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jgmac1106 If only a small circle in the dev community are talking indieweb and mircoformats then the answer is simple, talk to other communities outside of dev circles
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jgmac1106 the conversartion is hard, however. We first need to focus on writing documentation not for devs, that’s my starting point. What is the experience of the community I want to bring to indieweb, how do they inderstand indieweb, what toold do they use and understand, where do they have problmes.
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jgmac1106 From this insight we can write better dcoumenation folks can then fork for different communities
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jgmac1106 copying and pasting only my comments to meta so they are on record
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tantek this channel is logged also
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tantek and yes, meta is good for community development like conversations / thoughts like this!
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[kevinmarks] Going back to the ethics conversation, there is an interesting line in practice, which is that media organisations feel free to quote tweets, but ask permission for video or images
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tantek kevinmarks is that practice documented anywhere? or just passive convergence? or ... ?
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[kevinmarks] At one point, Twitter did link from the tweet to the media stories that quoted it. Maybe @benward can tell us why that stopped.
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tantek benward left twitter a while ago, and I think I still see those media stories lists mentioned
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tantek I forget what the feature is called
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tantek we should document that
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[kevinmarks] Eg https://twitter.com/KSLSharaPark/status/989910884414730241?s=19
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@KSLSharaPark @DerekSlauson @spidadmitchell @utahjazz Hey Derek, can I use your photo on KSL TV? (twitter.com/_/status/989910884414730241)
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Loqi +1
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/963873722221424640?s=19
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@ComfortablySmug It is with a heavy heart I must announce that the journos are at it again. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWBeBqBXUAAnB5s.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/963873722221424640)
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/garethlewin/status/981264900172472321?s=19
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@garethlewin This is awful and im hoping everyone at yiutuve is safe. but I want to also point out the “hey OP I’m from news agency X can I use your photo?” On the one hand yay for respecting copyright but on the other hand it feels so icky. Do your own journalism. https://twitter.com/erinjeanc/status/981262422567567360 (twitter.com/_/status/981264900172472321)
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[kevinmarks] See also danah's PhD https://www.danah.org/papers/TakenOutOfContext.html
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[kevinmarks] Or shorter version http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2010/01/25/public_by_defau.html
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[kevinmarks] And medium length http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/05/07/social_network-3.html
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[kevinmarks] Linking to a narrower licence with rel-licence may be a good way to express this, but without coming up with a converged one like creative commons did, that may be trickier.
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@frankmeeuwsen ↩️ Oef.. ik haak te laat in voor #blogpraat. Mijn blog slaat geen reacties op, alleen tweets die reageren op mijn blogpost. Moet ik daar iets mee/voor doen? Het zijn zgn webmentions. https://indieweb.org/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/993559566913810435)
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jgmac1106 [kevinmarks] we use danah’s work when developing the research guideliens for open web learning communities
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jgmac1106 [kevinmarks] https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150911/21572232228/crazy-permission-asking-media-scrum-that-descends-when-photographic-news-happens-twitter.shtml
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jgmac1106 you know I hate when journalist simply equate journalism with the web. It is usally in context of “adding a paywall. The open web is dead..” like: https://medium.com/thewashingtonpost/a-farewell-to-free-journalism-4338746dacec Such a myopic viewpoint
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jgmac1106 excpet coming from someone who said I was a blogger but now I am a journlist pangs just a little bit more
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@frankmeeuwsen Voor alle deelnemers op #blogpraat die geen WordPress, Blogger of ander kant-en-klaar template hebben maar vooral vanuit een Indieweb gedachte bezig zijn, onderstaande blogpost is zeer de moeite waard! (twitter.com/_/status/993562970558025728)
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/978597775838404608?s=19
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@kevinmarks “I claim to believe in paying for content but I resent the paywall of the very newspaper for which I write.” - @dollyalderton which is me and @wired to a tee https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/03/what-happens-when-millennials-grow-will-we-be-snowflakes-who-finally-settle (twitter.com/_/status/978597775838404608)
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@martijnvdven ↩️ Er wordt nog hard over Webmentions en hun plaats hierin gediscuteerd. Afgelopen weekend was er een #IndieWebCamp in Düsseldorf met een hele GDPR sessie. Ik weet niet of we al een link-dump hebben. Hier is wel een interessante heen en weer te vinden: https://indieweb.org/GDPR#Articles (twitter.com/_/status/993569301499142144)
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@ChrisAldrich Move over chicken. I can already see someone in the IndieWeb community creating a Cheese post kind to begin cheesemarking content on the internet. 🧀 https://twitter.com/annaholmeswrit1/status/991371469807468544 https://boffosocko.com/2018/05/07/reply-to-anna-holmes-post-about-using-cheese-as-a-bookmark/ (twitter.com/_/status/993569835744350212)
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schmarty well i hope somebody cheesemarks this because i cleaned up my GIF posting client based on lots of good feedback here and it has a home on the web now at: https://kapowski.schmarty.net/
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schmarty what is Kapowski?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Kapowski" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Kapowski is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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schmarty Kapowski is a Micropub client for posting GIFs to your site, powered by GIPHY search. https://kapowski.schmarty.net/
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Loqi ok
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tantek wow
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skippy neat!
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tantek whoa " Copy and Paste this code into your site "
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tantek schmarty: since the code there assumes an h-entry context, WDYT of " Copy and Paste this code into your post "?
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tantek which should "just" work e.g. if someone is copy/pasting into a WordPress create post textfield
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Zegnat It doesn’t seem to like sink.zegnat.net :( Though I think why and will report on that after a good night’s sleep!
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Zegnat s/I think why/I think I know why/ ... wow, so tired I drop entire words?!
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jacky lol moving like UDP
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tantek schmarty also the "Reply to <a..." option could be slightly enhanced (if you like symbols) with "↪ Reply to <a..."
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schmarty tantek: i do like symbols! updated.
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gRegorLove A nice testimonial about #indieweb chat from jmac: "Of all the Freenode IRC channels with populations of more than 100 that I’ve spent any time on, the people of #indieweb have proven among the most friendly and welcoming, always quick to answer newcomers’ questions with no trace of mockery, feigned surprise, or bad taste. This has helped a great deal with my own ever-deepening interest in and respect for IndieWe
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gRegorLove b’s principles and goals."
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gRegorLove http://fogknife.com/2018-05-07-a-bit-of-indieweb-pushback.html
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gRegorLove y'all++
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[kevinmarks] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05sxgvj
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tantek wow thank you jmac for the kind words!
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@megarush1024 Working on a new “Subscribe” page for http://arush.io because WordPress is celebrating its fifteenth year on May 27 and I think the best way to join that celebration is to bail on big social on my own terms and get back to the basics with my own sites. #Indieweb #WP15 (twitter.com/_/status/993602825413373952)
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tantek wonders if Bridgy Publish will POSSE an animated GIF to Twitter etc.
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snarfed i think so?
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tantek schmarty++ for https://kapowski.schmarty.net/
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tantek snarfed have you tried ^^^ ?
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snarfed no, have you? :P
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snarfed maybe i have, not sure
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KartikPrabhu I think Bridgy will just forward the image URL through the API and then Twitter does what it does?
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snarfed twitter special cases them at least in twitter API objects. not sure about creating.
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snarfed i suspect it will Just Work
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KartikPrabhu (TM)
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gRegorLove I've Bridgy Published GIFs before
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@jgmac1106 Microformats I would like in remixable #indieweb classrooms: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/microformats-i-would-like-in-remixable-indieweb-classrooms (twitter.com/_/status/993627128414470144)
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