#indieweb 2018-05-16

2018-05-16 UTC
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snarfed dckc: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/1441#issuecomment-302969948 and https://fed.brid.gy/
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Loqi [Gargron] >an Atom feed with activitystream data Just an Atom feed will do too, but it needs to contain a link to a Pubsubhubbub hub >webfinger support Yes. Link to Atom feed, link to profile, link to salmon, magic key >an XRD at .well-known/host-...
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dckc cool... thanks, snarfed
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@cathieleblanc Why We Need the #IndieWeb: A Short History: http://cathieleblanc.plymouthcreate.net/blog/indieweb/why-we-need-the-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/996557504854315008)
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@jgmac1106 Decided to just switch themes. Wasn’t fair to try an #indieweb WordPress experiment without doing so.: https://jgregorymcverry.com/decided-to-just-switch-themes-wasnt-fair-to-try-an-indieweb-wordpress-experiment-without-doing-so/ (twitter.com/_/status/996559461123805189)
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@sull ↩️ Lots of angles to consider. Just the code, the org, the network of sites/users, the UX etc. I would focus on replicating Twitter experience by connecting all the instances "owners" by way of indieweb or similar. Simplify architecture, support podcasting, bundle paywall concepts. (twitter.com/_/status/996579382075510784)
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@OtterScotter "Members of the IndieWeb community are building tools to try to make moving your web presence off the corporate web easier, giving you more control over your digital identity." ~ @cathieleblanc http://cathieleblanc.plymouthcreate.net/blog/indieweb/why-we-need-the-indieweb/ #edtech #digped @ReclaimHosting (twitter.com/_/status/996605480892968960)
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@mdeimann Why We Need the #IndieWeb: A Short History. http://cathieleblanc.plymouthcreate.net/blog/indieweb/why-we-need-the-indieweb/ #DigiU (twitter.com/_/status/996633912762880000)
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Zegnat This is nice! https://txt.fyi/about/
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Zegnat (via https://www.metafilter.com/174130/The-dumbest-publishing-platform-on-the-web)
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dgold Zegnat: similar in concept to this: http://txti.es
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dgold txti also gives the content-as-json via minimal api
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Zegnat That’s cool. I am wondering if something like that might solve my blogging woes
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dgold http://txti.es/sample-for-zegnat
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dgold http://txti.es/sample-for-zegnat/json
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Zegnat Is that ... HTML as JSON?! Oh my, that’s a new one
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dgold or even xml: http://txti.es/sample-for-zegnat/xml
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dgold Yeah, I've been onto the guy about that html as JSON
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Zegnat That XML feels super counter-intuitive.
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Zegnat Probably best to -> #indieweb-dev
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jgmac1106 morning all
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Zegnat Morning jgmac1106
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dgold hmmm, I can't find my original message to him
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[wiobyrne] Morning all.
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@qubyte @adactio Did you mention a Homebrew Website Club meetup this evening yesterday? I'm waiting in for a delivery, but if it doesn't arrive too late I'll come along. (twitter.com/_/status/996729352388775936)
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[kevinmarks] http://neverssl.com/
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] Morning [jeremycherfas] was just singing your praise for throwback posts to old cartoons
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@tomasparksts ↩️ @TheRegister #indieweb #news (twitter.com/_/status/996738030785343492)
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jeremycherfas Er, right. Thanks [jgmac1106]
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tomasparks ^ "People like convenience more than privacy – so no, blockchain will not 'decentralise the web'" http://reg.cx/2JfD
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skippy good morning.
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@jgmac1106 I think I updated @cogdog's cc Flickr Attributor tool to include the microformats u-photo class . If anyone can take a look be appreciated http://bit.ly/2rNOGuI #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/996751426792681472)
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Loqi *yawn*
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aaronpk Ghost << [https://blog.ghost.org/5/ After 5 years and $3M, here's everything we've learned from building Ghost]
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://blog.ghost.org/5/ After 5 years and $3M, here's everything we've learned from building Ghost]" to the "See Also" section of /Ghost https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=47807&oldid=44642
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[eddie] !tell GWG: Your podcast pages could use some cover art! I wonder if you could use something like schmarty where you have the IWC logo and a colored banner on the bottom that says “An IndieWeb Podcast”. Does your Podcast/Audio post type allow for an image to be included?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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skippy aaronpk: does Quill do reposts at all? or just replies?
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aaronpk it does
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aaronpk https://quill.p3k.io/repost
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Loqi Quill
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skippy oh, nice! thanks!
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skippy ah, but it doesn't offer repost syndication?
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[eddie] Has anyone noticed that on GitHub they have Facepiles literally kind of stack on top of each other like cards? When you hover over them with your mouse, they spread out so you can investigate each one individually. Kind of a cool form of a face pile
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cweiske example?
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[eddie] https://github.com/kriasoft/nodejs-api-starter/commit/32bf49ed8754139b2bb8002f9125768d2bf909eb
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[eddie] On a commit page
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cweiske I wonder how this looks with 10 authors
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[eddie] That is a good question
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sknebel I wonder why do this when there's hundreds of pixels of whitespace on the same line
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[eddie] haha I’m wondering if they are trying to keep attention away from the photos
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[eddie] like they don’t want that to be the primary focus?
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aaronpk i thought they do that to show that the authors are all contributing to the same individual thing (the commit)
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aaronpk I believe that happens when someone else merges a commit
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[eddie] Ohhhh so there’s only probably every two, the author and the merger
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cweiske does someone have a repository with an octopus merge?
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[eddie] I’m not even sure what an octopus merge is?
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[eddie] Well that’s probably #dev anyway lol
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[eddie] so ignore that question
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XgF cweiske: but merges still only have two authors, just >1 parent commits
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@calum_ryan ↩️ was great to see your speak at #EuropeanaTech - one of the best talks IMO :) Unfortunate I missed meeting you at the event but would be interested if you're aware of the IndieWeb community activities regarding the subject of decentralization on the web? (twitter.com/_/status/996775396195667968)
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[markmhendrickso Just spotted this that may be interesting to all here https://app.co/
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I suspect you're already aware, but for others who come along, some of these functionalities are relatively solid/stable plugins, which we all wish were in core, including https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb-post-kinds/ (twitter.com/_/status/996791519393796102)
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@calum_ryan ↩️ There's a Wiki for an overview and info regarding terms/methods/tooling and about the community in general https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/996793857806303233)
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@jgmac1106 Back to directly publishing on Twitter until I get me #indieweb life sorted. No webmentions for some reason on @withknown and no working endpoints for MicroPub on WordPress. #StuckInASiloWithYou (twitter.com/_/status/996799016712142848)
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skippy straw poll: are you an iOS or an Android user? Just curious what folks are using here.
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dgold ios
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snarfed anecdotally in the past i think we've seen mostly ios, a little android (GWG, me, swentel)
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Zegnat Android
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pstuifzand android
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skippy thanks!
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skippy i'm currently on Android, but have been seriously contemplating going to iOS.
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[markmhendrickso iOS
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Zegnat It isn’t really that I chose Android. It is more that I chose a < 200 EUR phone. Ha.
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[jgmac1106] @skippy we can save you from bad choices
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skippy [jgmac1106]: there are no bad choice. either give in to the invasive data collection of Google, or accept the "we know best" attitude of iOS and their unchangeable default apps.
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aaronpk I definitely fall on the "we know best" side :)
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[jgmac1106] Apple only became privacy company when iAD failed
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skippy i'm increasingly annoyed at Android putting app developers (ie: advertisers) desires over my desires as a phone owner. I'm coming to better appreciate the isolation of iOS apps from one another.
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[jgmac1106] I actually really miss the days when Android sucked. Flashing nightly roms trying to crack bootloader was fun
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skippy [jgmac1106]++
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 6 karma in this channel (9 overall)
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skippy flashing CyanogenMod, before it went commercial, was fun.
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[jgmac1106] I actually think Android better bet for responsive web apps than iOS
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[jgmac1106] Yeah mine was a Barnes and Noble Nook with honeycomb
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[jgmac1106] But I am on Verizon family plan and they got ruthless with bootloader and no nexua
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[jgmac1106] Nexus
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[jgmac1106] Nexus 5x still my fav phone of all time. All that for $250
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[jgmac1106] Though had an old Sony Ericson I left out in rain, ran over with lawn mower and it still worked. Might be close second
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Zegnat I had a Sony Ericsson W890i in high school. I think it is still my all time favourite phone. Solid but thin, unobtrusive in my pocket, tactile buttons to press.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: http://www.arush.io/?p=93690
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@MorrisPelzel "Why We Need the #IndieWeb: A Short History." Excellent case for creating your digital identity on your own web pages, from @cathieleblanc http://bit.ly/2rOrrRe (twitter.com/_/status/996819684447150081)
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@swentel Identified 15 issues that should lead to a first beta of the #IndieWeb module for #Drupal 8. Feel free to jump in! Or help out with the other remaining 80, that's awesome too :) https://github.com/swentel/indieweb/projects/1 (twitter.com/_/status/996830663016894464)
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marinin So, I've started working on my new blog engine that would support indieweb out of the box. The biggest hurdle was to come up with codename for the project. In the end I've decided to go simple and called it 'strunk'.
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marinin Besides that, I discovered a problem, that feels like I should document it somewhere. I've got Marinin.xyz as my primary url on the web. All was good, until I discovered that all .xyz TLD is blocked at my work (and possibly on untold numbers of other providers), due to 'spam'.
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marinin *are blocked
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marinin Rather than trying to fight bureaucracy, I decided to move to .com: what should I consider to do that flawlessly? Currently I'm thinking of doing 301 redirect.
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marinin redirects* on all pages, that is. Not sure, how IndieAuth would handle that, though.
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sknebel it'll log you in as the new domain if you try to log in with the old
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marinin oh, ok.
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pstuifzand what is ekster?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Ekster
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Zegnat You can use 302 temporary redirects and IndieAuth should stick to the original domain while still following the redirect for discovering your endpoints, marinin
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Zegnat But I guess it depends what you want. Do you want to keep using .xyz as your main identity? If you are considering setting up 301s, that doesn’t sound like it.
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swentel pstuifzand, love the name :)
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pstuifzand thanks
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pstuifzand "microsub-server" wasn't very catchy
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swentel haha, no it isn't
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pstuifzand what is ekster
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Loqi Ekster is a Microsub server written in Go https://indieweb.org/Ekster
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pstuifzand that's better
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[jgmac1106] someone some day make a list of what is capitalized where and why,
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sknebel pstuifzand: the <dfn> tags tell Loqi what sentence to use as a summary
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pstuifzand ok, didn't know that
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sknebel (or rather, they tell a mediawiki plugin what to put a "p-summary" on, which Loqi then finds)
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sknebel one reason why most of us use Loqi to create new pages ;)
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pstuifzand I should do that in the future
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Loqi yea
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skippy pstuifzand: does ekster expect to be the sole service at the domain on which it is running? or can/should I map specific endpoints to talk to it? (I'm using docker-compose, and will be proxying into it from my host)
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@ChrisAldrich Virtual Homebrew Website Club Meetup on May 30, 2018 (Perhaps with some #edtech / #WordPress flavor?) @jgmac1106 @wiobyrne @taylorjadin @kimberlyhirsh @johnjohnston @mrkrndvs @xolotl @cathieleblanc @edtechfactotum https://boffosocko.com/2018/05/16/virtual-homebrew-website-club-meetup-on-may-30-2018/ (twitter.com/_/status/996862425029754880)
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