#indieweb 2018-05-23
2018-05-23 UTC
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met-denise-milan hi
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# Guest65221 Hi! I am wondering if anyone knows how to use the Font Awesome plugin with wordpress
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@sokolova3408 lctweresocool% https://bit.ly/2GGwhpk %adelelive%panic%pacina%masculinitysofragile%couplecamgirls%purpleprincessedits%googlewaveinvite%indieweb%poetandididntknowit%littlebitofyou%tele5%garrettbluesclues%brianafueradelacasa%delideraleyenda%itstheweekend%baskstball (twitter.com/_/status/999100748351893504)
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jeremycherfas Morning IndieWeb
# jeremycherfas So, I know it is early today still, but how do people in and around this timeone feel about a vHWC tonight starting at 18:30 CEST?
# jeremycherfas I would have to leave at 19:30
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petermolnar I'll try to make it, but no strict promises, given it's only 17:30 BST
# jeremycherfas That would be good. I guess I can advertise it on m.b too and just hang around on Mumble.
# jeremycherfas !tell zegnat that's not even funny.
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@voxpelli True in so many cases and is one of the core principles within @indiewebcamp – diversity and plurality creates and ensures an innovative and open ecosystem while the current mono-culture of a few big companies stifles the very same – to the loss of everyone else (twitter.com/_/status/999203983993516032)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ We're trying to learn from the UX efforts of the silos, but there is inherently a bit more complexity having urls instead of silo specific handles https://indieweb.org/design#UX_Before_Infrastructure (twitter.com/_/status/999206550207123456)
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# sherab Goodday all. Question: buying domain name & registering it - are they two different things? and if so can i buy domain name from one company and resiter it with another???
# sherab then i need to associate the name with the ip of the server where my website folder are?
# sherab how is this accomplished?
# sherab through the server where my folders are?
# sherab so managing my domain name is a diffrent service to hosting my website
# sherab no i haven't i bought a domain name with a company that i got so confused that unfortunately i had to request a refund. which is a pitty because they seemed like a small company and i like supporting small companies- freedns.
# sherab Zegnat: thanks man. I am cleare now [i think] i am ceratinly getting closer. tot ziens
# petermolnar clarification: managing the domain vs managing the DNS entries are different things; the latter could happen on your server, but it definitely needs a static IP and a DNS server. Managing the domain is a process with a registrar, the company who is allowed to talk to the tld (top level domain name, eg. .com) owners about the domain you want to deal with.
# petermolnar what is DNS?
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Loqi DNS is an abbreviation for Domain Name Server and often used to refer to the configuring thereof https://indieweb.org/DNS
# petermolnar some registrar companies allow you to point the DNS server entries for a domain out of their own company; so, for example, you could run your own DNS server or use another provider for this (I use DigitalOcean)
# sherab petermolnar: thanks for this clarification. trying to understand how the web functions is like walking on a a very thin and not so tight rope...
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# sherab1 what is domain name?
# Loqi A personal domain is a domain name that you personally own, control, and use to represent yourself on the internet https://indieweb.org/domain_name
# sherab1 ha Loqi seems to answer questions???
# sherab1 Loqi what are you?
# Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
# sherab1 what can loqi do?
# sherab1 i thought loqi will answer me
# sherab1 good morning
# petermolnar gives Loqi a question
# sherab1 :-))))
# sherab1 my life has become much better since coming across indieweb!
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@jgmac1106 Can we have an #IndieWeb webmentions credentialing system? #OpenBadges: https://jgregorymcverry.com/can-we-have-an-indieweb-webmentions-credentialing-system-openbadges/ https://t.co/BPc4XL5HXJ (twitter.com/_/status/999240790323924992)
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[kevinmarks] Good thinking on user data https://test.org.uk/2007/05/04/a-manifesto-for-data-literacy/amp/?__indieweb_impression=true
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@RichGreenhill The Yahoo GDPR consent page links to several HUNDRED boxes to click to opt out of their advertising partners one by one 😭 #Oath https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ddv3OpzV0AEy8d7.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/998666579675107328)
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# sherab trying to sign in to indieauth. returns the following: twitter.com/redwisdomlight No rel=me link was found on https://twitter.com/redwisdomlight to https://wisdomlight.github.io/
# sherab but in my twitter accuond i have added to my webpage https://wisdomlight.github.io
# sherab what am i doin g wrong??
# sherab oh thank goodnes - i really feel so stupid - when i get these kind of replies i naturally assume i am missing something very obvious...
# petermolnar sherab: do you have a github account? That still seems to work.
# sherab yes - that's working as well as my email
# sherab which is why i was unclear about the twitter
# sherab so I am able to connect with indieweb that way
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# [Sherab] [schmarty] thanks
# sherab schmarty++
# sherab petermolnar++
# sherab that's cool - helping others to get good karma!!!
# sherab jgmack1106++
# sherab oops jgmac1106++
# sherab jgmac1106++
# sherab Zegnat++
# sherab Loqi but they all helped me
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[jgmac1106] Loqi--
# [jgmac1106] I tried to take yoru Loqi All the KARMA
# sherab [jgmac1106] the machine is taking over
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# petermolnar Loqi all the karma!
# petermolnar ah
# petermolnar no more meme links?
# [jgmac1106] was just going to try @petermolnar
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# jgmac1106_ going through and adding an RSS bot to each channel in Slack that I us in class, then I get the joys of teaching everyone to include a category for each module,
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@klandwehr Note to self before trying to participate in the Virtual Homebrew Website Club, learn how Mumble works and have a working mic. Because then when people ask you a question you are not shouting in mid air to no one. Although I did enjoy listening to it. @jeremycherfas (twitter.com/_/status/999346439464595458)
# jeremycherfas I really appreciated you trying, and was pretty frustrated that you weren't able to take part actively. Maybe next time ...
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ @kevingamin @RonAmadeo @film_girl Yeah I was using a combination of Plex and Subsonic plus any old desktop I could find at garage sales as a server. Then had too many children and moved back to Google. Maybe it is time to go #indieweb on my music again… https://jgregorymcverry.com/padresj-jasonhowell-kevingamin-ronamadeo-film_girl-yeah-i-was-using-a-combination-of-plex-and-subsonic-plus-any-old-desktop-i-could-find-at-garage-sales-as-server-then-had-too-many-children-m/ (twitter.com/_/status/999355484476977158)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I wonder if @palewire, @Chronotope, @jeffjarvis, or @ricmac are playing in these sandboxes or know others who are?
#journalism #annotations #indieweb
https://indieweb.org/Indieweb_for_Journalism#Annotations (twitter.com/_/status/999368905503145986)
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# sonicrocketman Hey all, shameless plug, but I just released a new RSS Reader and Microblog client called Pine! I'd love your feedback. https://pine.blog
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# sonicrocketman I have. The v1.0 is Wordpress only, but I do want to include MicroPub and Pine-hosted blogs in the future. It's on my feature list for sure.
# sonicrocketman I also plan to include things like rel=subscribe links in the search results, since they're free for all to use. That way other people with their own feed readers can subscribe directly from Pine.
# snarfed oh man, pine. memories! https://snarfed.org/gmail_vs_pine
# sonicrocketman haha, yeah, it's a crowded name... but the 4 letter domain was too good to pass up!
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# sherab question: if i post something directly to facebook/twitter etc - the material belongs to them and i have no rights to it anymore?? but if i POSSE the material remains mine and FB/twitter etc have no rights to it, I retain the rights??
# sherab another question: why does my name as well as the name of sonicrocketman appear in red but normal whereas the names of sentel and snarfed appear bold?
# sonicrocketman sherab they're mods or voiced probably, we're just plebs :P
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KartikPrabhu sherab sonicrocketman add yourselves to /irc-people and I think you get a +v
# KartikPrabhu nothing to do with being "plebs" ;)
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# sherab i am a proud pleb
# sherab always was
# sonicrocketman did not know. Thanks KartikPrabhu
# sonicrocketman same. ProudToBeAPleb
# sherab the patreus of the roman times never attrated me
# sherab pine vs mutt which is easier to use?
# sherab or alpine vs mutt
# sherab do you still prefer cli based email over client or web based ones?
# sherab but POSSE with a permalink does not allow them to use the material??
# sherab i have seen a video of on of the co-founder and was impressed by him but I would like to hear what is the heart purpose of indieweb
# KartikPrabhu what is indieweb?
# Loqi The IndieWeb is a community of individual personal websites, connected by simple standards, based on the principles of owning your domain, using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and own your data https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
# KartikPrabhu sherab: ^
# sherab KartikPrabhu you'r crafty thanks
# sherab aaronpk - it felt as this is the implicit meaning of POSSE - I felt that the idea of retaining control over one's own content is the heart of indieweb
# sherab ok that's fine - i just thought taking back control over the internet intended on giving us the people more protection from how the silos are using our content
# KartikPrabhu sherab: if you have silo accounts you likely already agreed to their ToS. Not much anyone can do about that
# sherab KartikPrabhu ok. I read an article with Jaron Lanier - who highly recommmended to stop all social media activities
# KartikPrabhu if you follow that recommendation it would include POSSE too
# sherab But not necessarily indieweb - which is after all a network of blogs - that are not designed to create adiction in our mind but to enhance our humanity. ??
# KartikPrabhu I am not sure if people design their blogs to not be addictive :P
# KartikPrabhu but indieweb is not one entity. there is not ToS. you post on your blog so you do as you please
# sherab KartikPrabhu - fair point.
# sherab do you know how do i add my name to the irc-people? it shows the pattern needed but does not offer a way to add the pattern
# KartikPrabhu sherab: you log into the wiki and can then add yourself by editing the page
# sherab You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users.
# sherab oh i get you
# sherab i log at the top right
# sherab ok - i clicked the log in ; a page with indieauth appears; i added my website i clicked on the green buttoon with my github.username to autenticate with the provider ; i am directed to the irc-people page again and it says log in in the top right
# sherab no luck with reload
# sherab good night good people.
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# @jgmac1106 Throw back to @ncte 2008 where @lauriehenry @wiobryne @lzread98 and I presented on blogging: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1gucNmY8rQ5ffKJQf7-2pyV-ei7qXxVlF2KboKaU05KY/edit?usp=sharing My slides blank presented from my blog. #IndieWeb is a value not a technology: https://jgregorymcverry.com/throw-back-to-ncte-2008-where-lauriehenry-wiobryne-lzread98-and-i-presented-on-blogging-https-docs-google-com-presentation-d-1gucnmy8rq5ffkjqf7-2pyv-ei7qxxvlf2kbokau05ky-edituspsharing-my-sli/ (twitter.com/_/status/999424284002004995)
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