@dmarti↩️ Clearly, ads in context can have a powerful economic role that spam-like targeted ones can't. (I'm planning to talk about how sites and browsers can help the audience participate in privacy-enabled reputation->signal positive feedback, at #nudgestock2018 http://www.nudgestockfestival.co.uk/ ) (twitter.com/_/status/1000591353145782274)
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@chrisbergr↩️ Seit ca 2 Monaten nutze ich tatsächlich die App „Podcasts“ auf meinem iPhone täglich auf dem Weg zur Arbeit. Dieser und „this Week in the indieweb“ gehören natürlich dazu.
Verstehe gar nicht, warum ich früher nie Podcasts gehört habe. (twitter.com/_/status/1000644917432147968)
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davy__I've yet to implement webmentions or any especially dynamic features like that. (I do have weblogin thanks to selfauth! Zegnat++) I'm currently working on a subscriptions page which only I can see where it gives me a feed of content from rss feeds, other indieweb sites and so on. I thought I'd share this because I'm quite proud of it so far. https://davy.tyrrell.co/
jeremycherfasAre you buying it? I'm not sure that it isn't a "project" of some sort. But I'll suspend judgement for now. And it is definitely entertaining.
tantekhave to admit my first response when seeing the "packages" was wait a minute, these photos are such good examples, that they could be turned into a "how to" list
tantekjeremycherfas: so here's my question, how do we help folks avoid falling into the same "social media performance life" trap with their own websites?
tantekand second question(s): What about the positive side? I have found a lot of positivity from (others') Instagram posts. Is one person's envy another person's inspiration? Where do you draw the line?
jeremycherfasOne answer might be to downgrade the relentless focus on numbers (of followers, likes, reposts). I think that's a good decision by @manton on m.b.
tantekare they just not shown, or are they de-emphasized somehow in the UI? and if so, we should capture screenshots to show as examples for others to implement
tantekThough one feature that has caught my eye is when IG lists other followings that have liked a post you're looking at, that feels more "social", like hey my friends liked this post, perhaps I should look more closely.
jeremycherfasNot to get too deep here, but aren't we fast approaching "The only beliefs you can change are your own" territory? All the research on "happiness" and positive psychology suggests that comparison is inbuilt and very hard to overcome. But you can learn how.
jeremycherfasMe too. And the more I get, the better I feel about that post. BUT ... I also devalue likes and reposts from the silos quite considerably compared to actual interaction of some kind.
tantekjeremycherfas: my understanding is that all (most?) social interactions, no matter how minor, trigger some dopamine, and thus through inconsistent reinforcement, you can gamify such interactions into being addictive
tantekthat is, both the act of one-click *liking* something releases dopamine in the liker, and the notification "your post was liked" releases dopamine in the receiver of the like
tantekthis predates social media though. the convenient/efficient email UI of blackberry phones contributed to the term crackberry to describe the emergent behavior
jeremycherfasI think it goes a lot further back than even the crackberry, although that was perhaps an early example of technology making use of what is, I suspect, a long-standing and evolutionarily-selected behaviour.
tantekwhereas using your computer at home, playing video games at home, or receiving a letter at home is often a private activity, unnoticeable by others
jeremycherfasI think the main point I want to make, which is tied up in the word "gamification", is that the technologists and others were taking advantage of a deep-seated behaviour pattern, which probably originally had survival value.
tantekyes the "sticking with your group" and "maintaining your social ties" behaviors that were essential to survival when food/water/shelter etc. were scarce and/or required small group cooperative efforts to actually obtain
[jgmac1106]@davidemead we could use h-review and webmentions and do untapd is a badge sayign I drank this beer, could even just do a reply post to the canonical link of the beer
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jmacVisiting indieauth.com for the first time in a while and I see the note about twitter.com login not working any more. Which isn't shocking but it's still disappointing. Is there a news item somewhere about this?
LoqiTwitter (also known as Twitter.com) is a popular content hosting silo most well known for originally limited to 140 characters text notes https://indieweb.org/Twitter
jmacI look forward to the day I can start POSSEing to twitter via Plerd. I will have a party and you are all invited. Except you'll have to wait for me to implement h-event posts on Plerd first, sorry
jmacPlerd is my custom blog software I've had since 2014, and which I've been working on an IndieWeb-aware branch for the last couple of months. Worth a Wiki page, I suppose?