#indieweb 2018-06-26

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@malcolmblaney Can you guess what my project is for #IndieWebSummit?... https://t.co/y0hA3DOdLS (twitter.com/_/status/1011399743703015424)
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@PDX_TechEvents Who's going to the @indiewebcamp meetup? Details: http://bit.ly/2tfsVF0 (twitter.com/_/status/1011400911866990592)
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@grantcodes #IndieWebSummit party time https://t.co/j9l0MzwbMV (twitter.com/_/status/1011401165551087616)
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@murderofcrows IndieWeb Summit kickoff at the Pine St Market https://t.co/RNvcLFyi5Y (twitter.com/_/status/1011401413824602112)
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@xolotl #indieweb meetup (@ Pine Street Market in Portland, OR) https://www.swarmapp.com/c/62iRn9FW9Sa (twitter.com/_/status/1011410876878946304)
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@Jaredewy Build your own website and own your content! Stop by Pine Street Market in #Portland and we’ll talk. #IndieWeb https://t.co/DZ1etmdZfP (twitter.com/_/status/1011420252394041344)
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eli_oat ya'll have a great time at the summit!
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strugee hey all!
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strugee I'm about an hour out from Portland
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strugee is anyone at the presummit meetup? does it seem like it'll still be going then?
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@namedotcom Build your own website and own your content! Stop by Pine Street Market in #Portland and we’ll talk. #IndieWeb https://t.co/rlA89lT0ji (twitter.com/_/status/1011431465479897089)
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] you on train yet?
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@jimpick Landed in Portland. Well, didn't really land, because I drove. Looking forward to IndieWeb Summit tomorrow! https://2018.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1011454900511707136)
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donpdonp is the source for the webmention part of 2018.indieweb.org online somewhere?
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donpdonp https://github.com/aaronpk/XRay oh that will do
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Loqi [aaronpk] XRay: X-Ray returns structured data from any URL
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@no Settled into my room in downtown Portland, excited to finally see what these #indieweb events are all about (twitter.com/_/status/1011479686889664512)
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@CreepBleep RT no "Settled into my room in downtown Portland, excited to finally see what these #indieweb events are all about" (twitter.com/_/status/1011479760495628288)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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Zegnat donpdonp: maybe you saw, but I believe all the code for the 2018 event page is available in https://github.com/indieweb/2018.indieweb.org
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@frankmeeuwsen Today is #IndieWebSummit day (and #PJLive2018 with Rome tonight!). Here's a small post with pointers on the summit - http://diggingthedigital.com/IndieWebSummit-in-Portland/ (twitter.com/_/status/1011508251714904064)
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@nicolas2fr ↩️ @jkphl @indiewebcamp @MozillaBerlin @t @colloq_io ping @xtof_party on y sera :) (twitter.com/_/status/1011511004436615169)
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@martijnvdven ↩️ Re: livestream. #IndieWebSummit is always very welcoming to remote participation. This year’s plan is to be streaming to YouTube (I expect at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCco4TTt7ikz9xnB35HrD5gQ; direct links will be announced) as well as Google Hangouts for two-way interaction. Maybe I’ll see you there? (twitter.com/_/status/1011511039375167489)
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KartikPrabhu aargh! I'm going to miss both days of IWC because work meetings. might catch up due to time zones
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Zegnat KartikPrabhu: unacceptable! ;-)
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KartikPrabhu :P
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[mrkrndvs] #NOTatIndieWebSummit wondering though if there is a guide for those wanting to follow along who aren't there?
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[Vanessa] That would be a great thing to have.
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[mrkrndvs] I think [jgmac1106] said he was putting something together
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calumryan there should always be an Etherpad for each session for participation. IWS Depending on the space and available equipment then it’s usually streamed live. Last year on YouTube through the IWC channel
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sknebel afaik there's going to be hangouts too to call in. and yes, jgmac1106 offered to be "remote buddy" for the session he's in
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Zegnat The plan is to stream on YouTube. So the opening keynotes should definitely be available.
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Zegnat During introductions people who are remote get to introduce themselves via chat.
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Zegnat There will also be hangouts for 2 way communication.
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Zegnat At least those are the plans. Links will be announced when they go up.
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Zegnat I am not 100% on what the plans are for the breakout rooms when sessions start
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] I am tring to work on a Remote guide now, having an etherpad per session is a great idea, but going to take this convo to #meta
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jgmac1106 oh yeah morning all
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[Vanessa] Cool. I'll try to watch some of it, but there's quite a time difference - think I'm 8 hours ahead. I know when I was recording with Jean on Saturday (yes, I was on my first ever podcast) it was morning in Portland and dinner-time here.
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning indieweb
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Zegnat [Vanessa], yes. The time difference is big. These next two days I actually put sleep on my calendar so I know when to get it on PDX time
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tantek__ [mrkrndvs],[Vanessa] stay tuned to https://indieweb.org/2018#Remote_Participation
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[jgmac1106] [Vanessa], I am always up way earlier than most. Happy to set up a mini vHWC, around 6am local time here tomorrow if there is any interest
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[Vanessa] Ha ha. Wish I could, but the day job continues...
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jgmac1106 [tantek] I was just working on that page, see meta, for what [zegnat] and I thought belongs
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tantek__ [jgmac1106]: yes Zegnat is familiar with the usual Schedule + Etherpads routine
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[Vanessa] I'll be working, I'm afraid, and when work finishes I'm out tomorrow evening. I can watch a stream and work (just about), but anything more will be too distracting - I'm right up against it at the day job at the moment. Hoping I can catch up with some bits in the evening.
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Zegnat Streams will be out as VODs too, if you can't catch them live
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[Vanessa] Excellent, thanks.
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[mrkrndvs] Thanks Zegnat. Not sure I'll be up and about so will most likely be after the fact ...
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jgmac1106 [mrkrndvs] We will have to do an asnychronous watch party. Nominate you to develop prompts
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schmarty Good morning, IndieWeb!
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tonz Morning all! (Good late afternoon from here)
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[miklb] O_/
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[jgmac1106] https://jgregorymcverry.com/how-to-remote-participate-at-indieweb-summit-edtechchat-literacies-notatiste-vconnecting/
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[jgmac1106] https://indieweb.org/2018
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[jgmac1106] Also please note the threaded conversations in Slack don't play well with IRC, it is best practice to just use channels
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[jgmac1106] [Vanessa], cool. I am going to work with @mrkndvs to come up with some asynchronous post activities.
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@jgmac1106 How to Remote Participate at #IndieWeb Summit #edtechchat #literacies #NotAtISTE @vconnecting: http://jgregorymcverry.com/how-to-remote-participate-at-indieweb-summit-edtechchat-literacies-notatiste-vconnecting/ (twitter.com/_/status/1011614569909891076)
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donpdonp Zegnat: i did not see. thx for the pointer!
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@sdepolo Owning your online presence is key in this time of change. I'll be joining #indiewebcamp @IndieWebSummit sessions virtually today, and you can too: https://indieweb.org/2018#How_to_Remote_Participate. My colleague @No is there in person so say hi if you see him. (twitter.com/_/status/1011643698151428096)
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[sdepolo] Morning Indieweb from San Francisco. I couldn’t make it to camp in person but did send my friend Noah Plumb from GoDaddy.
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit is live! You can call in with Zoom at https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 to hear and see the room. We’ll announce other remote possibilities as they come online! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011646788988817409)
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@jgmac1106 The #IndieWebSummit is live! You can call in with Zoom at https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 to hear and see the room. We’ll announce other remote possibilities as they come online! #IndieWeb (http://twtr.io/1fP51bx2JA9) (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3821-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1011649126184996869)
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWeb Summit 2018 in Portland!!! Join via conferencing platform Zoom: https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 - Summit info: https://indieweb.org/2018. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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donpdonp aaronpk is at the podium.
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[eddie] a wild gregorlove was spotted (on the livestream)
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[eddie] 🙂
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donpdonp whats the livestream url?
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[eddie] https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626
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donpdonp o^O
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[eddie] There are other livestreams coming
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[eddie] zoom is for two way conferencing, there will also be a view only via YouTube shortly
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@jaredcwhite Very excited to be here for the first time! #IndieWebSummit (twitter.com/_/status/1011654206590029824)
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[Vanessa] Grr, no audio. I don’t want to join audio, do I, but it’s not letting me listen either.
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jalcine is there a hashtag we wanna use?
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jalcine I've been using #indieweb and #iws2018 as well as #indiewebsummit (on Mastodon, not on Twitter yet)
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[eddie] I joined audio and then muted my audio
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[Vanessa] Ahh - thanks. Far too complicated at the end of a long working day!
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[eddie] My pleasure 🙂
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Zegnat jalcine, I am not sure a hashtag was decided for the event. I personally just make sure to always include the generic #IndieWeb
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jalcine Gotcha
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Zegnat jgmac1106 mentioned the website https://2018.indieweb.org/ uses #indiewebcamp
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit
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[Vanessa] Be nice if we could see people talking rather than just the room. Hoping the YouTube comes on line soon, reckon that will be much easier.
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jalcine I'll follow suit
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jgmac1106 all the #hashtags
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jalcine [Vanessa]: there's still quite a bit of setup! soon <3
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jgmac1106 we haven’t started 2 min
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[Vanessa] OK, I see. Told you I’m the n00b 🙂
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jgmac1106 me too just a n00b on the ground
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Zegnat jgmac1106, see #indieweb-meta where I talked about dropping in with a countdown ;)
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[Vanessa] Nonsense [jgmac1106] you know absolutely loads compared to me!
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Zegnat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw
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jgmac1106 a measure of time, not knowledge
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j12t Almost all seats taken in the room.
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[Vanessa] I’m looking forward to Jean and Manton’s bit - I recorded a podcast with Jean on Saturday, so that’ll be cool 🙂
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[eddie] yay multiple angles 🙂 Zoom + YouTube
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Loqi woot
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWeb Summit 2018 in Portland!!! Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw, Join via conferencing platform Zoom: https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 - Summit info: https://indieweb.org/2018. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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jgmac1106 everyone please remember that #indieweb-chat is not archived and off the record (please do not quote anyone). All other channels are archived with a Public Domain license indieweb-meta is for planning and other meta stuff, indieweb-wordpress all things WP, indieweb-dev for all things code
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@jackyalcine At the @indiewebcamp summit in Portland! We'll be starting shortly. (twitter.com/_/status/1011656023445082112)
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit is live! You can follow along from home at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011656041631764482)
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[Vanessa] Reckon I’ll hop off to YouTube - not sure my puny broadband can cope with both!
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@ChrisAldrich #IndieWeb @aaronpk: Alright, let's get started! (twitter.com/_/status/1011656097126649858)
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chrisaldrich Hello folks in the chat!
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[Vanessa] Hello 😀
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[eddie] Hey chrisaldrich!
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@jgmac1106 #ISTE18 #NotAtIste @vconnecting #edtechchat #edtechafterdark #literacies Right now: #IndieWeb Summit 2018 in Portland!!! Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw, Join via conferencing platform Zoom: https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 – Summit info… http://jgregorymcverry.com/3823-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1011656913719824386)
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Zegnat YouTube links added to Schedule and the /2018 page as well :D
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chrisaldrich Zegnat++ for facilitating things in chat
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schmarty any remote folks who would like to be mentioned during introductions, we'll be doing a presentation-by-proxy. let us know 1) Your name 2) Your personal website URL 3) Any particular page or feature on your site you'd like to demo and a sentence or two about it.
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Zegnat schmarty: 1) Martijn (aka Zegnat), 2) https://vanderven.se/martijn/, 3) my h-card is always a good one: https://pin13.net/mf2-dev/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvanderven.se%2Fmartijn%2F, something to highlight is the pronoun markup (which I like evangalising for) and otherwise just random stuff (want to know what Hogwarts House I am in? Go find it!)
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven
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donpdonp height-at-birth :O
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schmarty zegnat++ perfect, thank you!
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Zegnat For people joining us in chat only: aaronpk is currently talking about what the indieweb is. How different platforms can communicate with eachother, and why it is more freeing than most silos (who have been limiting their APIs as of late)
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@jgmac1106 aaronpk: He then demonstrated different #indieweb solutions such as http://micro.blog, @WithKnown, @WordPress, an other personal websites all linked together through webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1011658810434510849)
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Zegnat Going over some principles: build for yourself, UX and design before protocols, modularity, plurality of projects
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@namedotcom It’s standing room only as @aaronpk launches #IndieWeb summit and the many easy ways you can own your own web presence. (twitter.com/_/status/1011658815366811651)
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Zegnat What is principles?
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Loqi The IndieWeb Community is largely based on principles (AKA tenets) such as own your data, scratch your own itches, build tools for yourself, selfdogfood, document your stuff, open source your stuff, UX design is more important than protocols, visible data for humans first and machines second, platform agnostic platforms, plurality over monoculture, longevity, and remember to have fun! https://indieweb.org/principles
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[Vanessa] Good grief @zegnat that's some h-card!
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Zegnat That page has much more about what we are about.
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Zegnat I’ll take that as a compliment, [Vanessa]
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GWG aaronpk is leaving the podium, being replaced by tantek, who will discuss the state of the Indieweb
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GWG tantek welcomes us to the 8th IWS
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GWG He thinks we're all amazing
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: Can't believe we are doing this for the 8th time! Welcome to the annual summit. (twitter.com/_/status/1011659087547916288)
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Zegnat Darn, you are ahead of me and are going to beat me on scribing duties, GWG :)
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donpdonp live captioning for the win.
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GWG This year, he'd like to, now that we worked on the principles of owning our data, 'Express Yourself'.
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GWG Three elements...your homepage...
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GWG Stream of updates, portfolio, there is no wrong way to do it
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GWG We are a diverse community and there is no wrong way
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[Vanessa] And for those watching on YouTube, he's ahead of the feed. 😱
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@strugee2 so so so excited to be at this year's #IndieWeb Summit. much <3 https://pump.strugee.net/alex/note/KvZXRTV1QWSVpeolzmG0JQ (twitter.com/_/status/1011659566038204416)
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GWG Make sure each post has its own permalink
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@jgmac1106 #indieweb @t: This year I would like to take it a step further. Once you are in control I want you Express yourself. https://media0.giphy.com/media/ggP7QKGmTsv4Y/giphy.gif" (twitter.com/_/status/1011659638641709057)
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[cleverdevil] Except GWG's way, which is the wrong way.
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GWG There has been a different because of new post types
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[cleverdevil] I kid, I kid.
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[Vanessa] 😂
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Zegnat Yep, I was scribing from YouTube, which is the slowest of the channels (it was behind Zoom for me). So GWG beats YouTube easily
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@jimpick Made it to IndieWeb Summit in Portland! @aaronpk and @t kicking it into gear. https://t.co/9P5PAlE9SV (twitter.com/_/status/1011659807139348480)
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GWG I'm summarizing a bit
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Zegnat Peak behind the curtain, here are tantek’s notes for the presentation ;) https://indieweb.org/2018/state-of-indieweb
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strugee Zegnat++ for finding that ;)
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GWG tantek has moved on to POSSE...which allows us to copy/syndicate our posts to silos, which has been a problem due algorithms and API shutdowns.
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Zegnat GWG, summarising is awesome, that’s all the chat needs :) Definitely not captioning. (Although I would love to learn to do live captioning.)
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Zegnat GWG++
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: Beyond expressing yourself what a lot of want is to be heard. We have focused on POSSE for awhile (publish on your Own Site and Syndiate Elsewhere), but the silos are cutting us off. We need to go beyond POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1011660053320003584)
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GWG As an alternative, your feeds should be up to date...however many feeds you want...
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strugee tantek__: "however many feeds you want to put out there, it's up to you"
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GWG JSONFeed, H-Feed etc
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strugee me: YAMLFeed
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[eddie] schmarty: regarding presentation by proxy: 1) Eddie 2) https://eddiehinkle.com 3) I track the media that I watch and listen to: TV, Movies and Podcasts. There is a preview media ticker on the homepage. I also have a media listing page (https://eddiehinkle.com/media/) that collects all of my media consumption. I am able to use person tags to track who I watch different shows with, like my wife or other family members (2nd post on the page demos this)
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[Vanessa] Yes, agree, summary is fab. Thank you.
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GWG tantek has moved into readers, which is the work that has been done on this.
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Zegnat What is YAMLFeed?
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Loqi YAMLFeed is an attempt to ensure there is always a format war; since JSONFeed claims to be more readable, writable and easier to parse, than RSS, we present YAMLFeed: even more easier to read and write https://indieweb.org/YAMLFeed
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GWG "Make a better tomorrow for yourself and others."
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Zegnat strugee, add yourself ^^^
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GWG Because it's a great big beautiful tomorrow, shining at the end of every day
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: make a better future every day. Inspire people that they can do a better job on their own sites than any silo ever could. (twitter.com/_/status/1011660344362663937)
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GWG Calling out HWCs
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GWG Austin, Virtual EU, etc.
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strugee Zegnat: I haven't actually published one, I was just thinking about that page :'D
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[schmarty] eddie++ thank you!
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strugee I think I have a bug on file though
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[Vanessa] Ooh, I like the idea of having a reader - adds it to the list.
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Zegnat Looks like my YAMLFeed is the only one still up
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GWG Homebrew Website Club....start one today!
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GWG Next Indiewebcamps are Nuremberg in October, Berlin in November.
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strugee Zegnat: I might implement one at some point during the summit; shouldn't be too hard
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@jgmac1106 Seen on the way to #IndieWeb Summit. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3827-2/) https://t.co/UJwNj7e6AJ (twitter.com/_/status/1011660732201603072)
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[Vanessa] Brighton? That's not far from me...
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GWG tantek is covering that the principles are being reviewed to be more inclusive.
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Zegnat adactio (Jeremy Keith) runs Brighton on and off depending on people being in town (and him being in town). Definitely reach out [Vanessa]!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: There was an explosion of Homebrew Website Club. We also are announcing IndieWeb Camp Berlin November 3rd-4th. (twitter.com/_/status/1011661030487969792)
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GWG Technologies like Micropub, WebSub, Webmention, etc are W3C Recommendations
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GWG IndieAuth, JF2, and Post Type Discovery were all W3C Notes
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@jackyalcine WebMention is in the W3C WebSub is in there too! WebSub does real-time updates #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011661408776392704)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ There's more stuff like IndieAuth, J2FAuth. I need to look into this. Social Web working group helped design and run these standards. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011661410970013697)
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GWG Microsub is a new layer/standard for servers/clients to read the 'real time Indieweb'
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: websub is now a w3c recommendation. Congrats to all who worked so hard. Seen on the way to #IndieWeb Summit: https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/as well as post types, and a few others from the social web working group. (twitter.com/_/status/1011661602825867264)
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GWG Covering the need to iterate Vouch, the moderation extension for Webmention
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@xolotl Beyond #POSSE: @t talks about the #indieweb in a world of dark algorithms and closing APIs https://t.co/btRKEEQPoK (twitter.com/_/status/1011661683943661568)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ NEW! Microsub is a new spec for servers and clients to parse the IndieWeb in real time. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011661735147819008)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Vouch is work to handle spam, harassment and abuse on the IndieWeb. Thank God we're working on this EARLY. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011661737609789440)
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GWG Round of applause for Bridgy and Ryan Barrett aka snarfed
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GWG Bridgy added Github support this year, which is ___ awesome.
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GWG Call out to Chris Aldrich on his WordPress/Github integration
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GWG Built a service, a plugin, and documentation.
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @bridgy is a tool that works to bridge the IndieWeb with the centralized Web. Chris Aldrich has a post with Bridgy to other services like GitHub and Twitter. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011662089465802753)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: shout out to @snarfed for http://brid.gy and shows how GitHub integration works. (twitter.com/_/status/1011662118926635008)
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Zegnat Chris’ post: https://boffosocko.com/2018/03/03/enabling-two-way-communication-with-wordpress-and-github-for-issues/
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GWG Facebook has left the open web behind, and Bridgy is dropping support.
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Zegnat Took longer to write that post than to implement Bridgy GitHub support - Chris tells us
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@jackyalcine ↩️ The power of the community is that we work on things we ALL want so that those who come after can just pick it up and go. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011662410967601154)
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GWG If a post is POSSEd in the forest and no one hears, does it get a like?
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dougbeal I think it gets eaten by a Grue
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @chrisaldrich: It took me longer to write the post then it id did to start publishing to GitHub from my blog. (twitter.com/_/status/1011662580153282566)
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GWG gets embarassed about how many of the plugins for WordPress have my name next to it
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[cleverdevil] 😄
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Zegnat I was just going to comment, GWG
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy Facebook has left the Open Web behind, Bridgy is making do. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011662749636726784)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Wordpress support and IndieWeb compatibility is growing and growing. A suite of plugins that help you grow your instance to make it more Indie. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011662751855448067)
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jalcine haha
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy The community is human-centric; the power of people-centric environment. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011662754279763968)
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Zegnat GWG++ for WP
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Zegnat pfefferle++ for WP
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Loqi pfefferle has 29 karma in this channel (60 overall)
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jalcine thank god for the mastodon > twitter poster
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[Vanessa] Lol - the rest of us are just grateful!
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Zegnat Who is swentel?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Realize.be
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[eddie] swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 7 karma in this channel (12 overall)
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Zegnat Kristof is right :)
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GWG Together is a reader conceived last year and is now live for use
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Zegnat swentel built an entire Drupal infrastructure for indieweb by himself, so gets a big shoutout!
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GWG swentel is also responsible for Indigenous for Android,
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Together is a IndieWeb reader that was spawned from the community. Heavy dog-fooding. check it out: https://indieweb.org/together #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011663091266998273)
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[cleverdevil] swentel++
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: The WordPress work has been great as we build a new Getting Started and Plug In page. Drupal gets a build by @swentel. One person can make a difference. (twitter.com/_/status/1011663204802551809)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: Shows the iOS web reader built by @eddie. Who knew you would need to ask for a chronological feed? (twitter.com/_/status/1011663330908475392)
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GWG 2018/2019 is the Year of the Reader
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk has Aperture as well. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011663404472389632)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk Mobile readers for the IndieWeb are growing and (gasp!) chronological timelines, no ads. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011663406422790147)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk Closing notes in @t - This is the year of the IndieWeb reader. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011663408805154816)
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[eddie] #YearOfTheReader
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jalcine ack, my bad for the spam in here lol
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GWG Expect to be able to read, reply, interact, on mobile/desktop
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chrisaldrich yes, if you're live in the video, I think there's audio set up so we can hear you if you don't have your microphone muted.
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aaronpk it's not spam jalcine! :) plz continue
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[eddie] No worries jalcine, Keep it up!
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GWG Just noticed tantek has the Tomorrowland button on his shirt
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@EddieHinkle IndieWebSummit 2018 is live! Tune in now for the keynotes! #IndieWeb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw (twitter.com/_/status/1011663630901960705)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ : The RSS reader is gret but it doesn't allow for the functions we need on the social web. This will be the year of the #indieweb readers. This is a huger generational leap over RSS readers. (twitter.com/_/status/1011663647075119104)
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Zegnat This “spam” will let /someone/ copy really nice collaborative notes to the wiki. Keep them going :D
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GWG tantek is introducing the Micro.blog team
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GWG Jean is making shadow animals
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@jackyalcine ↩️ The power of controlling how you read, when you read and what you read is something we lost in the silo landscape. Having the power of self-curation and proper social curation is big sell for the IndieWeb. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011664046783959040)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t @t closes and introduces our next speaker! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011664049019514880)
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GWG Manton is excited to address the crowd
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jalcine oh it looks like it's keeping prior tags in my cross poster
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jalcine smh
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GWG Three things....UX, Content Ownership, Community.
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GWG Micro.blog is not a silo, it's what you build when you believe the web is the great social network
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GWG It's not just what the first version is, but what we think it is.
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@jackyalcine ↩️ They're behind http://micro.blog - a IndieWeb-orientated micro-blogging platform. Think Twitter, but way more useful. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011664388284088321)
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@jackyalcine "http://micro.blog isn't an alternative silo, [sic] it's what you build when you believe in the Web" #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011664389945085952)
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GWG Indieweb overlaps with Micro.blog
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GWG Micro.blog supports Micropub, Microformats, Webmention, WebSub, RSS, JSON Feed, MetaWeblog
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: Hapy to share three things: user experience, community, ...and I forget the third. (twitter.com/_/status/1011664671479357443)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t Lots of overlap between of IndieWeb and http://Micro.blog! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011664704333406208)
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GWG Micro.blog seeks to reach Generation 4...the 'People using Social Networks"
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: The goal of http://micro.blog is about making the web as easy to use and popular as @twitter. (twitter.com/_/status/1011664832188346369)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t We have the tooling to make the Web better. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011665034328641537)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t Understanding IndieWeb generations #IndieWeb #iws2018 https://t.co/1fUO19xYMD (twitter.com/_/status/1011665047997812736)
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GWG A lot of the iterations of microblogging on Twitter came from third party developers and we need to do this with the Indieweb.
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GWG Micro.blog has three apps, main app, photos, and podcasts
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: we need this on the #indieweb apps for everyone, for http://micro.blog we have a suite of apps focused on the user experience (twitter.com/_/status/1011665236531834882)
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GWG They are all iOS, I believe
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@SteveStreza I’m very late to the #IndieWeb stuff and just now getting my feet wet, this is really cool stuff and I wish I had gotten in on all this years ago. (twitter.com/_/status/1011665354899140608)
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@jimpick I listen to @manton2’s podcast sometimes ... it’s great to see him live at the IndieWeb Summit! https://t.co/vko7VITjZB (twitter.com/_/status/1011665353661796352)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t http://micro.blog is a flexible and very friendly IndieWeb-/SW-platform. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011665375572975617)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t Apps compatible with http://micro.blog #IndieWeb #iws2018 https://t.co/C4RNz04G6H (twitter.com/_/status/1011665388336222208)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: With Sunlit it is a deadicated (iOS) app for photos. We want the simple as possible Instagram experience but from your blog. (twitter.com/_/status/1011665467126308864)
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GWG Shows alternative app with different take
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GWG Manton moves to Content Ownership
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: There are also third party apps you can build on http://micro.blog (twitter.com/_/status/1011665546318934017)
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@tomwiththeweath Manton Reece and Jean MacDonald http://micro.blog keynote at #indieweb summit https://t.co/gcZj7sNyP0 (twitter.com/_/status/1011665599930384385)
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GWG Manton is comparing Mastodon to the Indieweb
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@jackyalcine ↩️ More recent versions of Sunlit for iOS optimizes content for its type - Instagram-esque layout when in the realm of photos. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011665698257625094)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t http://micro.blog heavily promotes the notion of content ownership. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011665700841238528)
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GWG People just want them, not an instance with other people.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: The princple of content ownership (second of @mantons three goals) is having your own domain name. It is about the web being like it used to be. (twitter.com/_/status/1011665766683480072)
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GWG How do we get more people to care about this?
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GWG People have joined micro.blog because they are frustrated with Twitter.
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GWG "Owning your content isn't about portable software, it's about portable URLs and data."
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: Owning your content isn't about portable software. It's about a portable URL and data. (twitter.com/_/status/1011665991737233408)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t "Owning your content is about portable software. It's about portable URLs and data." #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666019885244416)
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GWG Micro.blog is two things, a blog hosting service and a social network
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: http://Micro.blog is two things: a blog hosting platform and a social network. It doesn't matter if you use @WordPress or we host it for you. You can move it and get your content out. (twitter.com/_/status/1011666195479711744)
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GWG He hopes that people will discover how empowering it is to own your own domain/content/blog
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @Bridgy @aaronpk @t http://Micro.blog has a social network _and_ a blog hosting platform. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666347233828864)
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@jackyalcine The extraction of content from http://micro.blog highlights how the information is structured for portability. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666348441784320)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @manton: The goal of getting more people blogging is aligned with our business model. We don't have to worry about advertising. If people are blogging more that is a success. (twitter.com/_/status/1011666405094195202)
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GWG Manton hands over to Jean, the Community Manager
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jgmac1106 anyone have contact info or a url for Jean?
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jalcine ^
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[schmarty] http://macgenie.micro.blog/
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Loqi Jean MacDonald
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@jackyalcine ↩️ We want to see http://micro.blog users blog - biggest goal. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666728479285248)
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@jackyalcine Manton switches over to Jean for highlights on community. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666729674661889)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ http://micro.blog was funded by the community on Kickstarter. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666731696361478)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: We have a responsibility to make sure in the timeline that people feel safe. (twitter.com/_/status/1011666881462358016)
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@klandwehr I liked a @YouTube video http://youtu.be/k4a3rm_dagw?a IndieWeb Summit Day 1 (twitter.com/_/status/1011666886713659393)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: I was really impressed. I have never seen a strecth goal that was about improving the community. (twitter.com/_/status/1011666989876641792)
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@namedotcom Manton and Jean sharing http://micro.blog, a network of independent microblogs. (And an amazing domain name.) #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011666998290313216)
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GWG nManton's stetch goal for the Kickstarter for Micro.blog was to hire a community manager...Jean was impressed, and ultimately applied for the job
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@jackyalcine ↩️ http://micro.blog has a responsibility to ensure a safe community for its users. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011667047258914816)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Off the bat, Manton reached out to get a community manager to ensure safety. This is AMAZING. Community > software. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011667049779744776)
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GWG Communities need caretakers
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[Vanessa] Jean@micro.blog is her email.
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GWG As we've seen at Twitter, neglect is not benign
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Manton and Jean both work on http://micro.blog #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011667367913512961)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Communities NEED caretakers. As shown with Twitter, neglect is not benign. "For the good stuff to grow, you have to deal with the bad stuff." Analogy to a garden. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011667371545808897)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @jgmac1106: This is why I believe Design for Inclusion needs to be a principle and not something just for the Code of Conduct. (twitter.com/_/status/1011667376033628160)
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GWG Micro.blog has a discover tab...where they curate a feed of interesting posts
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: Communities NEED caretakers. As shown with Twitter, neglect is not benign.For the good stuff to grow, you have to deal with the bad stuff. (twitter.com/_/status/1011667662852755457)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ People wanted to find others to follow. Adaption from silos was rough. Curation of a feed of interesting posts from others in the community. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011667687301402627)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ The act of curating and sparking community growth is similar to adding fertilizer to the seedling plants. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011667690140954624)
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GWG They started a Microcast interviewing people
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[schmarty] macgenie notices questions on micro.blog and surfaces those to other users by putting them into the "discover" feed
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@xolotl Deep in the belly of #indieweb tech and practices at https://2018.indieweb.org Thinking about what it all means for students and #DoOO (twitter.com/_/status/1011667765994770432)
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GWG [Vanessa]: Your episode is up
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: We also started a microcast to feature a member of the community each week and curate a daily feed of interesting posts. (twitter.com/_/status/1011667810223869952)
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[schmarty] this usually gets the question answered and sets those users talking to one another
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[Vanessa] That's me. I was this week's guest!
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GWG [Vanessa]: I know
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@jackyalcine http://Micro.blog has a micro.cast (a podcast) that highlights community members to help show their involvement and their attraction to http://micro.blog #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011668009461731328)
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[dorismith] http://macgenie.micro.blog
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[schmarty] kevinmarks: macgenie surfaces question posts on micro.blog via the Discover feature so other users see it. sounds like a tummeling feature!
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GWG She tries to ensure diversity on the podcast
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@jackyalcine ↩️ The need to promote diversity of the content being curated is key to http://micro.blog #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011668323124371456)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: The building of community is not all altruistic. When people feel safe and as a member of the community they build stuff for everyone. (twitter.com/_/status/1011668333719105536)
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chrisaldrich The micromonday podcast is at https://micro.blog/monday
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GWG There is a meetup page
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GWG There is a Slack board for answering questions
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GWG And some guy named David Shanske keeps popping up there
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[eddie] Awesome, Vanessa! I haven’t listened to this week’s yet. I’ll have to do that soon 🙂
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GWG has to stay out of other people's keynotes
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chrisaldrich GWG++ for continually popping up in keynotes
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Loqi gwg has 237 karma in this channel (367 overall)
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chrisaldrich What is generations?
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Loqi Generations in the context of the IndieWeb refer to clusters of potential IndieWeb adopters in a series of waves that are expected to naturally adopt the IndieWeb for themselves and then help inform the next generation https://indieweb.org/generations
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@jackyalcine http://micro.blog bonds with their Slack channel in the IndieWeb channel has people chatting and sharing knowledge. Wiki development is there. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011668642201788417)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I agree. We need to start planning for the #DoOO community and #IndieWeb. Super stoked as a reader as an LMS approach. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3831-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1011668649256595456)
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GWG They have to make their instructions easier
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Zegnat GWG, be happy chat isn’t on screen. That happened during my first IWC, while I was live scribing, so the whole page was filled with my face over and over again ;)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: We have a way to go. (Shows their documentation) and said it is too hard for most people still. We don't want to push people into the deep end. (twitter.com/_/status/1011668827669696512)
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[cleverdevil] Love to hear Jean and Manton really pushing on the Generation 4 talking points. I didn't think we'd get here this fast, but here we are!
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chrisaldrich What is DNS?
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Loqi DNS is an abbreviation for Domain Name Server and often used to refer to the configuring thereof https://indieweb.org/DNS
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @jgmac1106: Then make your pool more shallow. (twitter.com/_/status/1011668866458701824)
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GWG Get people a domain name, get them something like micro.blog or Indieweb friendly platform...
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Owning content is key. However, more work is needed to explain to Gen4 users how to set up their world into IndieWeb/Micro.blog #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011668960939511808)
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[Vanessa] Sorry, I'm watching YouTube and eating dinner, so a bit behind the stream and the chat! Really enjoying this though.
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GWG A lot of people have moved from a hosted Micro.blog with them to a self-hosted option...but getting people started is their goal
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: "Let's start off in the shallow end" @macgenie says the same thing. Many people move from http://micro.blog to their own domain. Getting people started is our goal. (twitter.com/_/status/1011669074651369472)
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GWG Thanks for reading...
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@jackyalcine ↩️ A lot of people _start_ with centralized services but end up moving out when they want more control. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011669279836721160)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb macgenie: Having a community that feels safe allows us to build the biggest community possible. (twitter.com/_/status/1011669284425289728)
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GWG aaronpk returns to the podium
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GWG Round of chat applause please?
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Zegnat Thanks for reading...
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[eddie] applaudes
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tonz (interesting to note that your live notes from the summit here come in 10-15 seconds before the videostream gets to that same point in the presentation)
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Zegnat looks like a solid 30 seconds behind, depending on GWGs typing speed
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chrisaldrich What is reader?
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Loqi A reader (AKA indie reader or social reader) in the context of the indieweb is the portion/feature integrated into an indieweb site that provides a way to read content from other indieweb sites, possibly including posts from the current site, and respond (like, comment, repost, etc) inline in the reading UI itself https://indieweb.org/reader
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: I am back up here to talk about readers. (twitter.com/_/status/1011669414050230273)
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GWG aaronpk and cleverdevil will be talking about Readers
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GWG They will be talking Together
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GWG Or, together they'll be talking Together
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chrisaldrich What is Together?
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Loqi Together is a reader that was initially conceived at the 2017 IndieWeb Summit in Portland by Jonathan LaCour and several others during the Putting it all together session https://indieweb.org/Together
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@dietrich "Words are part of the design." - @macgenie on documentation at #indieweb summit (twitter.com/_/status/1011669510615494656)
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GWG aaronpk will be using the term "Social Readers"
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk @aaronpk is speaking on Social Readers. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011669611417399297)
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GWG The Indieweb community has been missing this piece of the ecosystem
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GWG Consuming content has been missing
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: I am going to call these social readers. We have focused on publishing content but there was nothing for consuming (twitter.com/_/status/1011669772344418306)
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GWG RSS readers never evolved past reading, and Twitter and Facebook evolved that by allowing you to respond inside the reader
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GWG So, they are 'Readers
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GWG We never had any of this with RSS, the best we had was a 'share' link
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk RSS readers failed us - no evolution past reading. Facebook/Twitter are readers but ALSO posting and what not. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011669937629351938)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: RSS readers failed us when it comes to being able to respond to what we read. Twitter and facebook solved this. Where does it go? Your Twitter account. We never got that with RSS. That is what we are missing. (twitter.com/_/status/1011669954029080577)
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GWG Shows a screenshot of Monocle, which is publicly usable, if your website supports it
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chrisaldrich Some additional background on readers: https://boffosocko.com/2017/06/09/how-feed-readers-can-grow-market-share-and-take-over-social-media/
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Zegnat What is Monocle?
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Loqi Monocle is an open source IndieWeb-enabled reader developed by Aaron Parecki https://indieweb.org/Monocle
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Feed reader revolution
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk @aaronpk is promoting Monocle - a way to read and reply to your social stream. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670262490771456)
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@jackyalcine Monocle -> your site (for posting) -> your site does the WebMention updates. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670263858069504)
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GWG There are also iOS and Android apps...Indigenous, which is a Micropub/Microsub app
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: From Monocole, the reader I built, I can leave a comment, and you can see it as a post on my blog, in my reader, and as a comment on the original post. (twitter.com/_/status/1011670386285662209)
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jalcine ah, it's monocole?
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GWG The functionality is split between the server, which handles the feed retrieval/parsing...and the app which handles the display
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Zegnat No, it is Monocle
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Monocle has clients for iOS and Android - taking it one step further. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670584617590784)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ More info: https://indieweb.org/Monocle It's REALLY cool. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670587117395968)
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Zegnat ping jgmac1106 misspelling in your tweet ;)
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GWG cleverdevil takes the stage to talk about Together
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jalcine What is Together?
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Loqi Together is a reader that was initially conceived at the 2017 IndieWeb Summit in Portland by Jonathan LaCour and several others during the Putting it all together session https://indieweb.org/Together
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GWG grantcodes did 90% of the Together code, which was conceived last year
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GWG is on the screen again
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GWG I didn't know I posted that much
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk promotes the need for us to leverage community members who know more about certain stacks to build clients. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670917943119872)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Jonathon/cleverdevil popped on to speak on Together. https://indieweb.org/Together #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670920358965248)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Together is a JavaScript for a client to handle the Social Web (sign-in with IndieAuth). #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011670922573565960)
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GWG These things all work due Microsub...the interface between app and server
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jalcine What is Microsub
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Loqi Microsub provides a standardized way for reader apps to interact with feeds https://indieweb.org/microsub
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Zegnat “grant is a great react programmer, but he is only one guy”. clearly [grant.codes] needs to up his game and be more people!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb cleverdevil: Together is a JavaScript for a client to handle the Social Web. It works as a Progressive Web App on @Android, kind of buggy on iOS but that's Apple's fault. @grantcodes did 90% of the work. (twitter.com/_/status/1011671183538958341)
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GWG There are a few implementations, including aaronpk's, Aperture at aperture.p3k.io
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GWG It does the feed pulling and the subscriptions
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Everything works thanks to MicroSub. https://indieweb.org/microsub #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011671254716289027)
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GWG Aperture is now a public beta
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: Aperture as of this week is now open for public beta: https://aperture.p3k.io (twitter.com/_/status/1011671408051617793)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Aperture (http://aperture.p3k.io) makes a lot of this possible - an implementation of Microsub. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011671571411488775)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ IndieWeb provides the blocks - how to find subscriptions, how to post, how to read. And you can then bring it alllll together. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011671574586494977)
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GWG And now for something completely different
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chrisaldrich What is Kill Process?
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Loqi Kill Process is a book by William Hertling exploring data ownership and privacy, the decentralized web, and the impact of technology on people, and mentions IndieWeb at several points throughout the story https://indieweb.org/Kill_Process
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: That's my announcement for #IndieWeb social readers. Let's have fun with this. (twitter.com/_/status/1011671638641913856)
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@anikasai One room of the #IndieWebSummit remote peeps here in Berlin! @EmbassyNetwork https://t.co/LFwEd9a1yq (twitter.com/_/status/1011671658023841792)
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GWG The Indieweb features prominently in his book
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[schmarty] http://www.williamhertling.com/
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Introducing William, author of Kill Process. Has a mention of the IndieWeb! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011671896914649088)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: I am excited to be here because the #indieWeb has been so influential to what I write. (His book about Kill Process actually mentions the #IndieWeb). (twitter.com/_/status/1011672032713592832)
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chrisaldrich Who is William Hertling?
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: Who owns are data, and how is it processed is critical. (twitter.com/_/status/1011672146295345154)
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GWG Main character is a data analyst who was abused, and uses her access to social network data to hunt down abusers and kill them.
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk William has a focus on sci-fi and how it affects people + technology. http://www.williamhertling.com/ #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011672229128568837)
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GWG Decides social networking giant is an abuser, and if people leave, they are cut off
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Zegnat chrisaldrich: jgmac1106: William is @hertling on Twitter if you need to mention him. http://www.williamhertling.com/ on the web
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: In Kill Process, Angie uses her job at Tomo to profile domestic abusers, and then kills them. Angie decides her job is to destroy Tomo. (twitter.com/_/status/1011672438973911041)
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chrisaldrich I thought someone added him and links to the wiki. I was hoping Loqi would spit it all back out... alas... ;)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Woah! This book Kill Process (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30658546-kill-process?from_search=true) is epic! Angie (woman lead) uses her DBA skills to hunt down abusers as a survivor of domestic violence. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011672549099495424)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: I tried to weave the princeiples of the #IndieWeb into the decentralized social web Angie built. When I wrote about tapestry I wanted to think about generation4 users. (twitter.com/_/status/1011672651897634816)
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GWG The difference is his 'Tapestry' system is more feature complete.
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Zegnat (chrisaldrich, he has now been wikified.)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: There are some important differences between the princeples of IndieWeb and what Angie built. These are important and I want to discuss these. (twitter.com/_/status/1011672975677050881)
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@tomwiththeweath William Hertling, author of the excellent book Kill Process keynotes at #indieweb summit https://t.co/hsCK1gnvfn (twitter.com/_/status/1011672986074546176)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: If we want to get people off of facebook we need to give them an easy way to share what they want. (twitter.com/_/status/1011673137602285571)
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GWG Writing a novel is like inventing all this stuff without actually having to write the code
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Zegnat “why writing is so much better than coding”
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@jgmac1106 #indieweb @jgmac1106: IndieWeb focuses on the individual. Tapestry focus on the whole. IndieWeb doesn't think about monetization. Making money isn't bad. (twitter.com/_/status/1011673854014644225)
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chrisaldrich Hello anika!
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jgmac1106 did anyone get the differences between the princples and Tapestry? They came to fast
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GWG If I...a guy with developer skills is too lazy to do this...
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106, it's being recorded, so we'll ahve it for later.
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GWG He does not advocate murder
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: I am a Gen one full stack developer who wants the gen4 experience because I am lazy. (twitter.com/_/status/1011674297650352128)
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tantek___ that's a great quote
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jalcine ahhh it is in here Zegnat, didn't see it
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk If you want to watch a livestream of the conference, peep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011674490554732544)
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tantek___ "We desperately need to break the world free of the corporate web." - WH
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chrisaldrich Hertling: We desperately need to break the world free of the corporate web.
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GWG We need to move out of our comfort zone.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: What Angie realizes that she needs to work with other people to build what she wants. When I come back to #IndieWeb I see a group of committed people and I see the principles., but we desperatley need to get the world off of the big guys (twitter.com/_/status/1011674620901064712)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: We need to bring in more people and not talk to just developer (glad we have sessions on rethinking princeples). (twitter.com/_/status/1011674830222000130)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk More Gen1 users need to optimize for the Gen4 experience. Peep: https://indieweb.org/generations #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011674835964088326)
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tantek___ clean drinking water analogy to privacy
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb hertling: @doctorow compares privacy to water, but we know clean water is the domain of government, and individual can not do it., but what do you do when the government is the enemy of privacy? (twitter.com/_/status/1011675105624195074)
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tantek___ possible to build your own purification system, cistern for storage / use in dry seasons
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tantek___ however more efficient to have the government provide clean drinking water
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tantek___ re: drinking water, and then we got government mandated fluoridation (except not here in Portland AFAIK)
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GWG aaronpk takes the podium and announces a 5 minute break
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@mattl I'm not there, but I'm curious how important free/open source in these IndieWeb projects is to other people. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011675223421259776)
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GWG Prior to lightning talks
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jalcine and now we get up and stretch
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Zegnat re: drinking water, and then we have people like me with their own well because government doesn’t provide water
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Zegnat Nice keynotes people!
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Zegnat GWG++ for scribing here
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Zegnat jgmac1106++ for noterlive-ing (which I think that was?)
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Zegnat jalcine++ for Mastodon outreach
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Zegnat brb, going to grab a sandwich
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Zegnat FOR REMOTE FOLKS:
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Zegnat any remote folks who would like to be mentioned during introductions, we'll be doing a presentation-by-proxy. let us know 1) Your name 2) Your personal website URL 3) Any particular page or feature on your site you'd like to demo and a sentence or two about it.
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Zegnat Ping [schmarty] with your answers!
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@jgmac1106 Notes from #IndieWeb Summit: http://jgregorymcverry.com/notes-from-indieweb-summit/ https://t.co/wvLonVA2C8 (twitter.com/_/status/1011675985299861509)
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] or any other remote attendee have a session they want me to propsoe for them?
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Zegnat I don’t really have any ideas. But I am +1 on GWG’s Vouch session. FWIW
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gRegorLove I'm +1 on a Vouch session
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] I am on well and septic, we are indie drinkers and poopers
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Zegnat Awesome! But you atleast still have cables bringing internet to your home, right?
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[schmarty] zegnat++ for reminding remote folks about intro details!
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[Vanessa] Um. Clicking on the "schedule" on the Summit page links to a page about "scheduling" not the summit schedule. I'm sure it did earlier...
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Zegnat Oh ooh!
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Zegnat Which page?
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jgmac1106 [vanessa] we haven’t voted on any sessions yet
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jgmac1106 Is there anything you want me to put on the board for you?
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Zegnat gRegorLove, you handling the intros scribes?
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[Vanessa] I can't think of anything really, I'm afraid. Sorry.
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[schmarty] [Vanessa] would you like a remote lighting intro/demo? we'll be reading them out. need your name, domain, and an optional cool feature you want to demo on your website described in a sentence or two.
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Zegnat {{tantek}}, tantek.com, coolest thing done is doing GitHub from his own website
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[schmarty] ([Vanessa] it's totally optional)
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@jgmac1106 #indieweb @t: Introduces the the lightning rounds, there are three questions to answer: need your name, domain, and an optional cool feature you want to demo on your website described in a sentence or two. (twitter.com/_/status/1011679334816534528)
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Zegnat tantek also talks about adding reply context
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gRegorLove Zegnat, Can you? I'll try to catch anything that's missed.
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Zegnat I can, but I am a good 30 seconds late
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Zegnat tantek shows a github response
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Just had a short intermission. We back now with @t to talk about the cool things he's added to his site. Notably is how he can post and manage GitHub issues on his personal site. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011679520057888768)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk @t This! Is! Lightning Round Hour! haha #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011679522121449472)
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Zegnat has a little link at the bottom to view on github
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[Vanessa] https://indieweb.org/2018 the "schedule" on here goes to https://indieweb.org/scheduling
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: I can post a GitHub issue from my website. Then Bridgy talks to GitHub and publishes the comment on the issue. (twitter.com/_/status/1011679610239627264)
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gRegorLove Next up: aaronpk.com
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GWG Hello, Berliners
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Zegnat Fixed, I think, Vanessa
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @t: We have a remote watch party in Berlin. Come by and say hello. Thanks @anika. (twitter.com/_/status/1011679807573254145)
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@jackyalcine Being here at the #IndieWeb #IWS2018 is lowkey inspiring to make more moves on my personal site at https://jacky.wtf/ Sooo much potential. (twitter.com/_/status/1011679849600159749)
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@namedotcom .@hertling is here & just wrote a book: “By day, Angie, a twenty-year veteran of the tech industry, is a data analyst at Tomo, the world’s largest social networking company; by night, she exploits her database access to profile domestic abusers and kill the worst...” #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011679865626558464)
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Zegnat [Vanessa]++ good catch, that copy was added this morning!
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Zegnat {{aaronpk}} shows the pixel art on his homepage
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk // http://aaronpk.com is now presenting for the lightning talks! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011680164747628544)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk #IndieWeb #IWS2018 @aaronpk has a collaborative pixel art tool on his home page! https://aaronpk.com - check it out (twitter.com/_/status/1011680167352205312)
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Zegnat it live updates when people are clicking on it, someone is racing him to change right now
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb aaronpk: I am Aaron, I don't have a whole lot of updates, I added a pixel art feature to my website. And when you cnahe it it takes a snapshot and posts to my feed. https://aaronparecki.com/grid (twitter.com/_/status/1011680296020905986)
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[Vanessa] [schmarty] If you think people will be interested. My site is blog.vanessahamshere.uk (my name) which feeds to Micro.blog and I use it for short status updates. Webmentions are working and Micro.blog replies go there. Not sure what I want to do next - I've gone from practically nothing to this in the last 3 months... Good to show what a n00b can do.
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gRegorLove Next up: jmac.org Jason McIntosh
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[schmarty] [Vanessa] that's perfect!
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[schmarty] vanessa++
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk #IndieWeb #IWS2018 We got Jason McIntosh presenting now on http://jmac.org (twitter.com/_/status/1011680492083646467)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk #IndieWeb #IWS2018 he has a MP3 of how to say his name on his site. I'm SO adding this. (twitter.com/_/status/1011680494407254016)
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Zegnat jmac, has IPA of his name
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Zegnat double checked {{martijnvdven}}s pronunciation to namedrop
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Zegnat has been working on [[plurd]], see fogknife website
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gRegorLove what is plerd?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Plerd
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Zegnat (darn, misspelled)
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gRegorLove np :)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb jmacdotorg: I added a pronunciation for my name after talking to Martiin on http://indiewebchat.org. I just came to IndieWeb and I built plerd and an #IndieWeb branch (twitter.com/_/status/1011680805352083456)
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@schmarty ↩️ I am giving personal shoutouts on This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition to people who add name pronunciation audio to their sites! (twitter.com/_/status/1011680813740580864)
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Zegnat Version two of Plerd is “the indieweb branch”
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GWG schmarty: Challenge accepted
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Zegnat fogknife has backfeed via bridgy now, it has its own webmention endpoint
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Zegnat sends webmentions to itself as well, which will show up
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gRegorLove Next up: chrisaldrich
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Zegnat {{jmac}} has been releasing perl libraries for webmentions and microformats2
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Zegnat (In 30 seconds, gRegorLove :P )
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gRegorLove Sorry, I can skip those if you prefer
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gRegorLove Just let me know if you need me to jump in
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Zegnat No, its fine, I’ll just mention names in everything I write so we can descramble later
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Zegnat {{chrisaldrich}} up, http://boffosocko.com/
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Loqi  Articles  Notes  Replies Microcast  Checkins  Audio  Listens  Watches RSVPs Jams  Photos  Read  Favorites  Likes  Reposts  Bookmarks  Follows  Video  Quotes  Chat  Recipes  Eat  Drin...
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Zegnat Wants to mention a thing he did this week
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GWG chrisaldrich: Creating a post kind and not me?
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Zegnat LOQI NO!
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gRegorLove stahp
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Zegnat He has been trying a new post type on his website: highlights
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Zegnat “To solely capture highlights made on other website”
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @chrisaldrich: I have done a lot this week, but I want to show post kind I am developing called highlights. https://boffosocko.com/kind/highlights (twitter.com/_/status/1011681712944893952)
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[Vanessa] 😂
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Chris Aldrich is up now - speaking on the evolution of his site. Namely highlight support - think of what Medium currently does. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011681798194171904)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk His site is at https://boffosocko.com/about/ #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011681800152866817)
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Zegnat Made something that should be easy to use. It uses [[fragmentions]] to link to the specific highlights on other websites
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Zegnat On his site, links will scroll straight to the piece of text highlighted
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Zegnat will work with [[hypothesis]]
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frankmeeuwsen Digging the highlight support at boffosocko
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Zegnat jarod white next up? (spelling, gRegorLove?)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Now we got Jared White with his site at http://jaredwhite.com #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011682463150731267)
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GWG chrisaldrich: We need another podcast to discuss s
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Zegnat Has already been following indieweb principles, and has more recently started to also implement indieweb features
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GWG chrisaldrich: We need another podcast to discuss highlights
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb jaredcwhite: My name is Jared White and basically just rebooted everything with the principles in mind. I am just building the plumbing. I am trying to make the Ui like social network. I guess you can call it Scaled UI morphism (twitter.com/_/status/1011682588501708800)
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Zegnat The website follows the design of a social website page: including follow (email list) and IM (email form) buttons
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Zegnat Experimenting with different types of posts. Link posts feature an excerpt of the thing linked.
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Zegnat Also [[note]] and [[photo]] [[posts]]
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Zegnat Shows the backend, built in [[RoR]]
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb @jgmac1106: @wiobyrne @jaredcwhite Built an IndieWeb newsletter feautre into your sites. (twitter.com/_/status/1011682923085549568)
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Zegnat Email newsletter is generated on his own system - sent out by campaign monitor
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Zegnat Is sharing a dongle save?
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Zegnat [cleverdevil], up cleverdevil.io
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk A lot of the content production and distribution is done he does himself. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011683132037361664)
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Zegnat Bottom right of his website shows the current status of his battery, his wifi, and wheter he is moving
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Zegnat Clicking it will take you to his /now page
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@jgmac1106 #indieweb cleverdevil: I am Jonathan. I will share one thing that I did. (yeah @withknown site) but I added some coollocation features that will show you my location and it is private to me but I map my movement. (twitter.com/_/status/1011683234520944640)
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Zegnat Showing a map
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Zegnat If you are logged in you can view his location tracking data
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Zegnat Currently only he has access to it
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Zegnat Uses [[Overland]] for collection
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk We got http://cleverdevil.io // Jonathan LaCour presenting his real time stats on his site. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011683516080418816)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Check it out at https://cleverdevil.io/now #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011683519515545600)
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Zegnat Next up is {{strugee}}, strugee.net
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Zegnat When the webpage loads, it does a weird reflow, no idea why
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Zegnat Hasn’t done userinterface changes in the last year.
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Zegnat But he likes retro, so there is a monospace font version
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Zegnat Has been spending time developing [[Lazymention]]
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jalcine what is lazymention
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Loqi lazymention is an open source service you can run on a Node.js server to send Webmentions from static sites https://indieweb.org/lazymention
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb strugee2: I like retro pages so I built it to look like the nineties. It is a static site and I built lazymentions (twitter.com/_/status/1011683823564787718)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ We got AJ Jordan // https://strugee.net/ up. Speaking on light design tweaks and lazymention - a way to handle WebMentions for static sites. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011683850630639617)
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Zegnat There will be a page/UI for LazyMentions “real soon now”
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Zegnat Next up {{gRegorLove}} https://gregorlove.com/
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Zegnat Most recently (over the last year) working on /read posts
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Zegnat What is indiebookclub?
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Loqi indiebookclub is an app for posting books you are reading to your website using Micropub https://indieweb.org/indiebookclub
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Zegnat (On my end I beat gRegorLove to typing it :P)
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jalcine <3 <3 <3
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb gRegorLove: So for the last year I have been tracking read posts and linking to Amazon. I recently just launched http://indiebookclub.biz. It is a micropub client and it will send it over to your site. (twitter.com/_/status/1011684193930235904)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk https://indieweb.org/lazymention #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011684195905757184)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Gregor // https://gregorlove.com/ is live - working on reposts of his site. AND he launched indiebookclub - a open alternative to things like Goodreads - I'm excited for this and to backfill this. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011684198850224128)
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Zegnat Launched indiebookclub.biz: a micropub client that lets you post titles/authors/isbn/doi to create read posts on your own site
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Zegnat It also offers feeds for all its users, so if your website doesn’t support micropub yet, you can still use it
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Zegnat next up jamie.
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jalcine What is Jamie Sharp
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Jamie Sharp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Jamie Sharp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jalcine :(
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jalcine wait
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jalcine What is Jacky
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Jacky" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Jacky is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jalcine lol
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gRegorLove who is jacky
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Zegnat gRegorLove, are you getting these URLs?
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tantek___ who is jalcine
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Jacky.wtf
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Zegnat (I can’t see them on a 240p stream ;))
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gRegorLove doh
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jalcine neither can I from the back of the room
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gRegorLove anomalilly.net
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Zegnat Comic Rocket is an example of how not to follow indieweb principles. But he is thinking about it
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Zegnat RFC5**5?
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb I want an Indieweb comic and long form example https://www.comic-rocket.com/explore/ is an example of how not to do this (twitter.com/_/status/1011684640753582080)
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Zegnat I was still on Jamie, gRegorLove. Didn’t catch his URLs
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Zegnat {{Anomalilly}} now
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Zegnat Does not have a lot to demo
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Zegnat But came up to create diversity: more short people!
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gRegorLove (I'll backfill Jamie's)
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Zegnat anomalily now has checkins
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Zegnat (thanks!)
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Zegnat showing of anomalily.world
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Zegnat aaronpk, built this to track a huge train trip
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb anomalily: So I added check ins to my blog, and @aaronpk built me a map that displays all my foursquare checkin (twitter.com/_/status/1011684981893206016)
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gRegorLove Jamey Sharp: https://jamey.thesharps.us/
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Zegnat A map showing all foursquare checkings during the trip
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Zegnat Including a checkin at the Great Wall of China: with photo of course.
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gRegorLove jgmac1106 is noterlive'ing as well
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Missed a few people just now - laptop kinks, lol. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011685223954821120)
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Zegnat Malcolm brings the Australian accent to the diversity table
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chrisaldrich Malcolm Blaney at unicyclic.com/mal/
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gRegorLove {{mblaney}} https://unicyclic.com/mal
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Loqi Malcolm Blaney
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Zegnat His website has a built in reader, and other people could log in to the site too
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb This is my site you can log in and see it if you want . My big thing this year was http://indiepay.me (twitter.com/_/status/1011685416183967745)
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Zegnat Has his identity and blog on separate paths on the domain
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Zegnat What is indiepayme?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indiepayme" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indiepayme is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat What is indiepay?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indiepay" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indiepay is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek___ unicyclic.com/mal
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Zegnat Worked on indiepay[.me]
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tantek___ unicyclic.com/mal/blog
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gRegorLove reader: https://unicyclic.com/indieweb
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Zegnat Project for tomorrow: making sure the error shown oin stream doesn’t happen
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Malcolm is up showing off his site. https://unicyclic.com/mal #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011685687115046913)
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gRegorLove jimpick.com
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@sikkdays Fun watching #IndieWeb #IWS2018 live from Portland and seeing all the people who I've interacted with or read about as I try to make my site more indieweb friendly. (twitter.com/_/status/1011685774431928320)
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Zegnat Please move to mic!
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Zegnat Third indieweb
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Zegnat active in the ... something ... building demos ... something
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb jimpick: My name is Jim Pick. I haven't updated it in this year. This is my third IndieWeb . I am building on the dat peer to peer protocol. Things like Beaker Browser are cool. (twitter.com/_/status/1011685846980923392)
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Zegnat IndieWeb stuff really got him into ... something
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gRegorLove Jim has been working on DAT
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Zegnat Aah, right!
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Zegnat I should have just known that
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Zegnat Was contracted by code for sciences (runners of [[DAT]] project) to work on a web project
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Jim Pick // http://jimpick.com is up now. It's his third IndieWeb Summit. Works deep in DAT. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011686063918678016)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Jim Pick worked on a collaborative pixel art editor! As well as a web-based collaborative shopping list on DAT. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011686067077083137)
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chrisaldrich Net up Grant Richmond of grant.codes
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Zegnat Collaborative shopping list
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gRegorLove {{grantcodes}} grant.codes
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Zegnat And what the shopping list is, I do not know, because stepped to the side again
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Zegnat Wants to work a little more on the theme switcher on his website
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Zegnat You can pick any colour you want, just switch it up
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb grantcodes: I am grant and it is https://grant.codes. Trying to figure out the last thing I developed . I added a theme color picker. The last thing I did was inpired by @cleverdevil and added a map. (twitter.com/_/status/1011686388012548097)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ We got Grant // http://grant.codes up now. He got a theme switcher on his site - allows for user opt-in on presentation. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011686389870727168)
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Zegnat Last thing he did, inspired by Jonathan, fixed a bit of his map page
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Zegnat Also has a page showing where he has been
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Zegnat Slowly loads his trip throughout north america on the screen
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[eddie] grantcodes++
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[eddie] haha
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[eddie] “You want light theme, dark theme, you can choose any color you want” grantcodes
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Loqi grantcodes has 3 karma in this channel (23 overall)
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Zegnat Third-gen user looking to connect with Four-gen users
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Zegnat headfullofair.com
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chrisaldrich headfullofair.com by Matthew Lippincott
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Zegnat Put together as a Jekyll blog
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Zegnat Converted to Jekyll to unite his old WordPress with things he made on other platforms
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Zegnat Does a lot of documentation. Documentation internal to a project that then becomes external documentation.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb Matthew am creating projects that have internal documentation that then become external documentation (twitter.com/_/status/1011686908383121408)
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Zegnat Interested in how we can integrate feedback into documentation
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jalcine ^
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chrisaldrich Next up is Emre Sokullu of http://www.emresokullu.com/
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jalcine definitely handy for live feedback examples
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@jackyalcine ↩️ We got Matthew // http://headfullofair.com - big on flying. He moved to Jekyll - wanted more customization. Big on documentation. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011687054990888961)
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Zegnat (gRegorLove if you have any links to the posts shown by Matthew, much appreciated)
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Zegnat Emre has been working on an opensource JS library over the last year
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tantek___ Emre Sokkulu!
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Zegnat Lets you embed social functionality
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tantek___ graphjs.com
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chrisaldrich Emre showing off graphs.js
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tantek___ emresokullu.com
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Zegnat Has IndieWeb compatibility, profiles with h-cards, streams using [[ActivityStreams]]
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Zegnat Can be embedded to static websites
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb Emre: This is an open source javascript project https://graphjs.com that just adds a IndieWeb stuff to your static website. (twitter.com/_/status/1011687274013188096)
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chrisaldrich sorry that's graph.js....
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Zegnat Own personal page is static and hosted by GitHub, and uses a graphjs widget for contact
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk We got Emre Sokullu // http://emresokullu.com #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011687380347211776)
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gRegorLove graphjs.com
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chrisaldrich Next is Michael Toomim of https://invisible.college/@toomim
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tantek___ Michael Toomim - just made this site this morning!
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Zegnat 30 seconds before Michael shows for me ........ :P
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Zegnat Discovered IndieWeb this year
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Zegnat Has been working with the same vision in the last 3-4 years
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tantek___ working on HTTP synchronization
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Zegnat Been excited to make a personal page within the IndieWeb principles
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Emre got graphjs // http://graphjs.com that brings the IndieWeb in a box! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011687706311708672)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk We got Michael Toomim of https://invisible.college/@toomim. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011687708736057344)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb toomim: I amhoping this works I just made it this morning. i just discovered the #IndieWeb this year. I am buildign a syncrhronizing algorithm . I am also trying to build a later of email on the blog and a social feed. (twitter.com/_/status/1011687798737338369)
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Zegnat Building a new version of the email protocol
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Zegnat Lets you have “email” that is also a blog.
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chrisaldrich Next is the inimitable Ryan Barrett of http://snarfed.org/
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Zegnat Because the email is hosted on HTTP, you can mark them public
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@ton_zylstra Spending a Morning on the #IndieWeb https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/06/spending-a-morning-on-the-indie-web/ #IndieWebSummit (twitter.com/_/status/1011687960637591552)
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Zegnat Shows off a widget of faces that allows him to link people up
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tantek___ that's https://snarfed.org/ :)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk And now we got Ryan // http://snarfed.com coming up #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011688022100856833)
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Zegnat Seeing snarfed now
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gRegorLove chant starts: brid-gy, Brid-gy, BRID-GY
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Zegnat joins chant even though he doesn’t hear it
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jalcine LOL
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Zegnat If I chant into the forest, does Bridgy backfeed it?
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Zegnat snarfed.org runs on WordPress (thanking GWG and community)
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chrisaldrich indiemap.org
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Zegnat Has also started read posts, posted a book he read to his daughter
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tantek___ indiemap.org
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chrisaldrich It's a project he launched last year at IWS.
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk And now we got Ryan // http://snarfed.org coming up #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011688347021053952)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Ryan built http://brid.gy (among other tools). #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011688349336293377)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk He built IndieMap - social graph of the IndieWeb. http://www.indiemap.org/ #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011688351727005701)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb snarfed: I am Ryan. My site is http://snarfed.org. It runs on WordPress. Recently I did a repost. A lot of my projects peak into your sites. Shows an IndieWeb ,ap, 380gb of html using webmentions. (That is Awesome) (twitter.com/_/status/1011688361264893953)
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Zegnat Because his projects are linked into many of our websites, he gets to see statistics
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Zegnat What is Indie Map?
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Loqi indie map is a public IndieWeb social graph and dataset, made by Ryan Barrett and launched at IndieWeb Summit 2017 https://indieweb.org/indie_map
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Zegnat Does visualisations of stats crawled
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tonz thank you all for presenting and for the live stream. pleasure to watch.
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Zegnat indieweb.org/{$yourdomain}.json
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chrisaldrich indiemap.org/yoursite/json will provide data on your interactions
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Zegnat Quick stats of Bridgy
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Zegnat Big plunge in the end because of Facebook
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb snarfed: You all know me for using Bridgy. Since launch there are almsot 2,000 unique domains and over 1 millions #webmentions sent. (twitter.com/_/status/1011688662852128768)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Nearly 2,000 domains and one MILLION WebMentions in history! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011688672897486852)
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Zegnat Green slither at the top of one of the stats is GitHub linking picking up
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jalcine I have _no_ idea why it keeps mentioning you aaronpk :(
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Zegnat Shows the million webmention mark once again, wow!
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chrisaldrich Now presenting Jack Jamieson of jackjamieson.net
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chrisaldrich what is Yarns?
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Loqi Yarns Indie Reader or Yarns for short, is an reader that is built for use with WordPress as a plugin https://indieweb.org/Yarns
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chrisaldrich This last year Jack built Yarns.
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Zegnat WhisperFollows and Woodwind name drop
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Zegnat Examples of older readers
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb jackjamieson: Shows the Yarns reader. The mistake I made was not using microsub. My goal is to turn this into a WordPress microsub server, (twitter.com/_/status/1011689038925922304)
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Zegnat His mistake was “not using [[Microsub]]”
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chrisaldrich Now at the podium is schmarty of martymagui.re
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Zegnat Would love to change that this weekend
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[cleverdevil] WordPress based Microsub server would be epic.
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Zegnat Wants to be taught how to do Microsub
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Zegnat -insertschmartyhere-
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chrisaldrich Lately Marty imbedded all of his goodreads data into his website.
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Zegnat Fixes his video stream by hitting it
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Zegnat Has exported all his goodreads data onto his site
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Zegnat Now has many read points that need to look better
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chrisaldrich He's also recently built /Kapowski which uses giphy to post gifs to one's site
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Ayee we got Marty McGuire // https://martymcgui.re/ up. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011689349040222208)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk He recently backfilled all of his Goodreads to his site. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011689351745597441)
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Zegnat Showing of [[Kapowski]]
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Zegnat (don’t be discouraged if we write the same note, chrisaldrich, keep them going!)
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chrisaldrich Remote of Zegnat's website which is a massive h-card
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Zegnat Kapowski can also give you HTML to copy and paste, without Micropub
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb schmarty: I created Kapowski which is Open Source, and uses Giphy and you can publish to yoru site or copy the html (twitter.com/_/status/1011689491051040773)
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[cleverdevil] Zegnat++ for the hogwarts house in h-card 😄
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Loqi zegnat has 99 karma in this channel (236 overall)
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jgmac1106 who is zegnat?
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven is a long-time web tinkerer living in Sweden (CEST or Europe/Stockholm timezone). Pronouns: he or they https://indieweb.org/User:Vanderven.se/martijn/
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chrisaldrich Next is Eddie Hinkle of eddiehinkle.com (remote)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Some more condensing of information. https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes-from-indieweb-summit/ #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011689672509218817)
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chrisaldrich Showing off his recent /watch posts on the top of his site
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[cleverdevil] Nice horizontal scrolling view at the top of eddie's page.
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[cleverdevil] eddie++
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Loqi eddie has 25 karma in this channel (64 overall)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb schmarty: Shows of zegnat's h-card on https://vanderven.se/martijn/ He even has his Hogwart's house. (twitter.com/_/status/1011689750053441537)
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Zegnat wants to really know who applauded, and then who “WOW”ed, at his h-card :P
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chrisaldrich blog.vanessahamshere.uk is Vanessa (remote)... she's been quickly building a site over the past few months
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Zegnat Started from 0 only 3 months ago
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tantek___ Nice set of remote demos by schmarty !
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gRegorLove (impressive progress for 3 months!)
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chrisaldrich Next up (back to live) is Doug Beal of http://dougbeal.com/
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Zegnat And by the end of the remote demos, we get to see the Kapowsky done post
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[eddie] schmarty++ for representing us remote people!
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Loqi schmarty has 43 karma in this channel (90 overall)
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chrisaldrich He's in the process of migrating his site to linode and is using docker to get isolation
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Zegnat Shows a live view of all the docker containers
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chrisaldrich Doug is logging in on indielogin.com to get into his website
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb schmarty: I am in the process of moving my blog to Linode. I am using Docker as my container. Moving a WordPress blog is fairly involved. (twitter.com/_/status/1011690446790250496)
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tantek___ showed the staging site with it setup
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chrisaldrich And next up is the incomprable GWG (aka David Shanske) of david.shanske.com
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tantek___ up next GWG!
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gRegorLove WordPress guru GWG is up
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Zegnat ... and of the IndieWeb in general!
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[Vanessa] Yaay, guru!
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Doug is using IndieLogin to log into his own site. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011690650994176001)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk We got one of the lead Wordpress devs. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011690655687565313)
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chrisaldrich GWG++ for making all of our sites go...
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Loqi gwg has 239 karma in this channel (369 overall)
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chrisaldrich He's been posting audio posts to create a podcast over the past several months
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Zegnat Has been testing all he makes on his own website ([[selfdogfood]] wow!)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb davidshanske: My name is David and I do a lot of WordPress stuff for the community. I have been posting audio posts which becomes a podcast. (twitter.com/_/status/1011690979328495616)
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Zegnat Shows the WP admin UI
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chrisaldrich He's been adding titles to the admin UI of wordpress for notes that otherwise would indicate (no Title)
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Zegnat Big yeey from the room!
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chrisaldrich and possibly last is:
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@benwerd Best wishes to everyone at #indiewebsummit this week! Helping people to regain control of their identities, information and privacy is one of the most important things we can do - particularly in the current climate. Be user centered, test your assumptions, and empower the user. (twitter.com/_/status/1011691169506459648)
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tantek___ Eric Drexel
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tantek___ has been running Known blog for a while
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chrisaldrich Eric Drexel has a /Known blog
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Zegnat has has “so many blogs over the years”
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tantek___ edrex.pdx
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GWG gRegorLove: What do you think the G stands for?
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Zegnat his thing is more backend
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chrisaldrich edrex.pdx.org
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tantek___ edrex.pdxhub.org
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Zegnat Works with an open-source project called ... perkeep?
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Zegnat Wants to create an indieweb app that will use that as its storage engine
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk We got Eric Drexel up. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011691637267947520)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #indieweb edrex: I have a Known site where I publish my posts and try to get my friends involved. (twitter.com/_/status/1011691769883439110)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Awww shit - group photo sooon #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011691967032504321)
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@jgmac1106 #IndieWeb Lighting Demo Round (http://jgregorymcverry.com/indieweb-lighting-demo-round/) https://t.co/PtmcfJn1kT (twitter.com/_/status/1011692081100795904)
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chrisaldrich That's the end of demos.
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Zegnat Has been POSSEing to Facebook, trying to draw them out
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chrisaldrich NExt up is the group photo followed by lunch.
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chrisaldrich What is Lunch?
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Zegnat Will be working on setting up other indieweb sites
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Zegnat Figuring out WordPress
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Zegnat end of the demos on YouTube now :D
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Zegnat Hmmmm, can I insert myself into the group photo somehow?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Lunch" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Lunch is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat 1 hour until session scheduling
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-06-26 10:27pm CEST (#6321)
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Zegnat Loqi?
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Zegnat 60 minutes until session scheduling
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chrisaldrich food cart pods are at 10th and alder (two city blocks of options)
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-06-26 10:27pm CEST (#6322)
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Zegnat He, I think Loqi was bogged down by all the awesome tweets
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] If you send me a photo if you standing I will photoshop you in, actually if any remote attendee posts a photo I will do a group photo+remote in a day or so
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Zegnat needs one of those remote attendance robots
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Zegnat I am now on a 45 minute timer. Will be reachable *at least* after 45 minutes from now again. Have a good lunch all!
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frankmeeuwsen And when the lunch starts at IWC, the Pearl Jam in Rome starts for me to follow on Twitter. Nice timing!
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit is taking their lunch break. But it’ll be back scheduling sessions at 13:30 PDT! https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule If there is anything you would be interested in discussing as remote participant, let the closest friendly #IndieWeb person know! (twitter.com/_/status/1011693854939123712)
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[Vanessa] [jgmac1106] Lol, nice idea, but ain’t no photo going out of me lolling around on the bed, watching YouTube. Ever! 🙂
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@MildredMarianne 1/8 I recognize the humanity of the multitudes that are oppressed, persecuted, incarcerated, and in struggle.Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694037647183872)
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@MildredMarianne ↩️ 2/8 I recognize that reparations and atonement are part of a needed healing process for shared humanity. Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694041182982144)
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@MildredMarianne ↩️ 3/8 I declare that violence, poverty, racism, sexism, incarceration, surveillance, militarism, and environmental destruction cannot persist.Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694049487736834)
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@MildredMarianne ↩️ 5/8 I make change through nonviolence and radical love for all people and for our sacred planet.Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694061944700928)
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@MildredMarianne ↩️ 6/8 I commit to the inspired change needed to create a more humanely just and coherent future.Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694066260762624)
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@MildredMarianne ↩️ 7/8 I commit to becoming aware of those forces that seek to undermine the Beloved Community.Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694070438260736)
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@MildredMarianne ↩️ 8/8 I will only use (and build) technology that is aligned with this pledge.Take the pledge https://douglass.io/pledge #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011694078688399367)
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@jackyalcine Yoo I have an extra ticket tonight for @donutjs tonight and @indiewebcamp tomorrow in Portland! Hit me up if you need it. (twitter.com/_/status/1011694550375649281)
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Zegnat frankmeeuwsen, have fun!
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Zegnat Thanks for joining :D
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Zegnat (Get one going in NL and I’ll be there.)
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frankmeeuwsen @Zegnat I have a browser full of tabs with interesting projects and ideas. Should make a nice blogpost
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frankmeeuwsen First I'll visit Nurnberg. Maybe get one going in NL in 2019, together with zylstra.org if he's into it ;-)
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Zegnat It is super likely that I will be in Nürnberg. And I think sebsel (my fellow NL HWC organiser) might be there too.
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Zegnat So that’ll be interesting!
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@manton2 Great morning at IndieWeb Summit! We’re going to have a http://Micro.blog meetup in Portland tonight too. See this post from Jean for details. http://micro.welltempered.net/2018/06/25/020044.html (twitter.com/_/status/1011695623207342085)
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[kevinmarks] if I weren't on a train I'd be following along
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@martijnvdven Yesterday @jgmac1106 asked if I ever slept. Today I will not. I will be your friendly #IndieWeb person in our chats (https://indieweb.org/discuss#Join_Discussions) and on Twitter for the duration of #IndieWebSummit. (twitter.com/_/status/1011698152376807424)
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@calum_ryan Homebrew Website Club LONDON tomorrow from 7pm at Proven Dough, Brick Lane ✏️ Webmention RSVP/Tito registration https://hwclondon.co.uk/meetups/20180627#register (twitter.com/_/status/1011698754850885632)
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tonz @frankmeeuwsen @zegnat I very well might, yes
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donpdonp h-word (build the value from the tags contained inside). p-word (use the text node as the value). u-word (use the href=/src= as the value)
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donpdonp magic knowledge of the mf2 class names ^
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donpdonp note p-word and u-word result in a string where h-word results in an 'object' when transformed into json
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Zegnat donpdonp, that’s definitely the basics of it, yes :)
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donpdonp its the first ive heard of an explanation of what h- p- u- mean, so it was a big reveal for me :)
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donpdonp i was throwing class="author p-author xyz-author wtf-author" around with abandon.
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Zegnat I was going to try and link to some more explanations. As well as a full writeup of the JSON syntax, but microformats.org is down for me right now :(
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Loqi Countdown set by Zegnat on 2018-06-26 at 9:27pm CEST
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Loqi session scheduling
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Loqi Countdown set by Zegnat on 2018-06-26 at 9:27pm CEST
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Zegnat Hmm. Seems I need to start poking some people to stay on schedule!
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jaredcwhite enjoying the summit immensely! first time joining here on IRC :)
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Zegnat Hello jaredcwhite! :D
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk Imma post the group photo when it becomes available. #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011710007627436035)
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Zegnat Lunch break is over. Work is currently underway to hook the event back up to the internet. Looking like we will have a Google Hangouts session for every room, so remotes can access their favourite sessions!
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[eddie] Awesome!
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jalcine woot
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Loqi 😄
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Zegnat Shoutout to GWG for introducing me to the table in the Blue room!
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GWG I thought you'd like to meet
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@jgmac1106 17 minutes to the first #IndieWebSummit session. Need to fill the board.#IndieWeb (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3838-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1011711915981230086)
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWeb Summit 2018 in Portland!!! Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKQKg7UOJ_E, Join via conferencing platform Zoom: https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 - Summit info: https://indieweb.org/2018. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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Zegnat We are back online in the main room! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKQKg7UOJ_E
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Zegnat Links for the separate rooms and Hangouts for the sessions will be shared later
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit is back online after lunch. People are planning (barcamp-style) sessions. Watch the main room here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKQKg7UOJ_E Want to join a session? We’ll be sharing separate YouTube and Hangouts links later! Want to propose a session? Ping me! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011712379334414336)
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Zegnat Ooh, only 2 minutes for more sessions to come in. Sorry remotes! Have to act fast
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Zegnat is learning as he goes
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk IndieWeb Summit does it a bit different - the attendees get to decide the next set of sessions. I have one up! #IndieWeb #IWS2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011713210452410369)
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Zegnat Jean wants to do a session about diversity on the IndieWeb: focus on the little ideas, not big
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Zegnat Taking a main room slot as almost everyone raised their hands
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Zegnat ---insertnotetoselfthisiswheresessiontalkstarts---
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Zegnat Chris wants to do a session on indieweb related tools for use in classrooms/schools by students/teachers. How can they better own their data and interact with the web. #EdTech.
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Zegnat jacki [?] - information gathering around libraries
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Zegnat nolan [?] - talking about a system that can run on cheap hardware at home to manage all the indieweb stuff, and he brought a demo
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jalcine *jacky ;)
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Zegnat dietrich [?] - distributed web: what does it mean. Heard about a couple of projects in the intros. Projects may have values that are similar, but architectures incompatible with the existing web. Talk about how they can work together
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jalcine is the stream being blocked?
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jalcine oh nvm
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Zegnat Please do fix my names at any time. These are people I do not immediately recognise
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@jgmac1106 Planning unconference sessions at #IndieWebSummit (http://jgregorymcverry.com/3841-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1011714837750210561)
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Zegnat [the person who designed his site after silos?] - design inspirations from social networks
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Zegnat UX
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Zegnat very popular, going to the main room
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KartikPrabhu what is IWS
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit 2018 is June 26-27, 2018 in Portland, Oregon; the eighth annual gathering for independent web creators of all kinds, graphic artists, designers, UX engineers, coders, hackers, to share ideas, create & improve their personal websites, and build upon each others creations https://indieweb.org/IWS
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Zegnat [?geospatial analyst] - privacy, federation, with focus on geospatial data
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KartikPrabhu nothing in the session grid yet!
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KartikPrabhu where be the schedule?
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Zegnat KartikPrabhu, I am noting live from session ideas
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Zegnat no fixed schedule yet
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KartikPrabhu aah cool
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jgmac1106 populating now [karthikprabhu]
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Zegnat [the person who did the WP integrated reader?] - wants to talk Microsub, readers
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: thanks!
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Zegnat [person?] - wants to really get a Reader running
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Zegnat 3 sessions are being merged around readers to have 1 Microsub session
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donpdonp ug. terrible time for microformats.org to be down.
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donpdonp does anyone know the person(s) responsible for that site?
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Zegnat *libraries is about what people need to run to get their websites indieweb friendly - not actually physical library*
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donpdonp hey there it goes
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KartikPrabhu donpdonp: what are you lookinf for? InternetArchive has most of the pages
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Zegnat (donpdonp: aaronpk can fix it, but he is currently busy livestreaming IndieWeb Summit)
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donpdonp KartikPrabhu: a bunch of different bits
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Zegnat [person?] - wants to look at access control, private posts, direct messages, take it to the indie
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Zegnat [jamie?] - IndieWeb for web comics. Wants the podcast experience for serial stories (web TV, podcasts, comics)
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jgmac1106 I am going to ask them to say their names
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Zegnat Sees technical details that get in the way, and would like to talk about small things that can be added
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Zegnat RFC5005
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Zegnat jgmac1106, URLs are even better for me ;) Or someone from there who can dump the names/URLs in here
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Zegnat “where the history matters” is what he would like to focus opn
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Zegnat A feed where you would “have to start at 1”
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jgmac1106 we will have them soon
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Zegnat [jason?] “A non-profit for IndieWeb?!”
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jgmac1106 [jmac] was person
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Zegnat Co-founded a digital arts non-profit, made some blog posts on the topic.
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Zegnat Is of interest to him and would love to talk about it
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[schmarty] zegnat: yep, jason
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Zegnat Most of the names, even if I heard them right, may not be useful because they didn’t present in the intros, [schmarty]
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Zegnat doug wants to talk indiewebring
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Zegnat What is webring?
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Loqi A webring is a collection of websites linked together in a circular structure https://indieweb.org/webring
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[schmarty] oh good point zegnat
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Zegnat Someone should sneak around, get a list of names-with-URLs
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Zegnat Awww, no vouch session? :(
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[schmarty] jason is fogknife.com
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[schmarty] no vouch session today
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Zegnat sunshine room. Sure. Go add rooms.
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jmac [schmarty]: (I do own & publish to fogknife.com but my personal-identity-domain is jmac.org)
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[schmarty] ah, sorry, i glimpsed it on your badge
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jgmac1106 vouch will be part of webring me thinks
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[schmarty] zegnat: thank you for the advanced wiki gardening 🙈
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Zegnat vouch does not feel like it overlaps with webring. But if it happens, ping me so I can drop in
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Zegnat microformats is obviously an interesting one for me
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Zegnat Something can be ditched because something.
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jgmac1106 well it was central last night but that was meet up talk lubricated with libations
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jgmac1106 I ditched my Ruby on Rails session because I want to to go to other sessions
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Zegnat That’s a good reason, jgmac1106!
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[schmarty] vouch session almost made it but it would have been in the sunshine room aka outside.
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@jackyalcine ↩️ We're building our next set of sessions! This is amazing IMO, building the learning sessions we expect. #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011718736288546816)
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Zegnat Sign me up for hack session on Vouch tomorrow!
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jgmac1106 there was talk of doing vouch outside but I know remotes want to go
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Zegnat For sure. I have received vouch from gRegorLove and have done some initial implementing, and would love to spitball
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jgmac1106 vouch makes the board
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@macgenie Annual mutual admiration society with @cleverdevil at the #IndieWeb Summit! https://t.co/DhqIWV4GB8 (twitter.com/_/status/1011719002119290881)
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Zegnat We are done with the schedule!
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Zegnat Now who is wikifying this? :P
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[cleverdevil] Heyyyyy look at that guy.
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jalcine session facilitation link: https://indieweb.org/session_facilitating
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jalcine https://etherpad.indieweb.org/
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[schmarty] schedule will go: https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule
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jalcine for facilitators ^
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[schmarty] zegnat: gRegorLove volunteered you for wikifying etherpad links at least
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sketchess good morning Indieweb
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Zegnat Haha
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jalcine awesome, thanks
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Zegnat I had volunteered previously, [schmarty] :P
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Zegnat Already have the editor open
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[schmarty] good morning sketchess
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gRegorLove aaron took the photo, just waiting for it to go up Zegnat
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[schmarty] zegnat++ the most expert wiki gardener
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Loqi zegnat has 100 karma in this channel (238 overall)
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Zegnat gRegorLove holds that title for sure, [schmarty]
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Zegnat waiting to see photo
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sketchess greetings....
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KartikPrabhu hi sketchess
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sketchess soooo.... what are the topic of today.... youtube was so kind to point out the current live stream...
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sketchess +s
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Zegnat Topics are coming online soon
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Zegnat Just waiting on the schema photo, then it’ll be shared with all sketchess
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donpdonp trying to grok the construction of h-entry and h-card is ... wow.
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bear sorry to ask if already know - is the room / zoom combination known?
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donpdonp luckily Mf2 and XRay are open source :)
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sketchess :) at least I am able to watch.... as long as I don't fall asleep^^
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Zegnat Bear, there is a link for the blue room hidden in the wiki
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Zegnat I will publish when the full schedule grid goes up
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bear cool
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bear i'm heads down at work, so I just may lurk on the youtube stream
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sketchess hidden .....
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gRegorLove If session etherpad isn't linked yet, use etherpad.indieweb.org/{sessionhashtag}
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gRegorLove Picking a hashtag for your session if you don't have one listed
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule#Tuesday - now shows the first list of sessions
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Zegnat For the first time slot
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Zegnat The rest of the sessions will be up soon
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tantek__ Thanks Zegnat !
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donpdonp Zegnat: thanks!
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sketchess education it is....
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[schmarty] livestream link for #indielib in the Green Room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vsQZTzOJbE
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[schmarty] (adding these to the etherpads in the future)
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sketchess thank you....
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sketchess and thank you for closing the door of the blue room :)...... audio is much much better now
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Zegnat Mainroom: you can always send people to the schedule: https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule
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Zegnat It links all the etherpads!
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4v82yc7J.jpg
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jmac thank you Zegnat!
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit sessions are on their way! Sorry for tweeting late, but the schedule has been completed https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule and it has links to the collaborative Etherpads, as well as livestreaming links for all 3 different rooms! One of them even has Hangouts! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1011725972549357569)
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@dietrich #indieweb summit kickoff! http://bit.ly/2Ku3Cd7 https://t.co/fI9jglOw6o (twitter.com/_/status/1011726491879657473)
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donpdonp throwing this out there: minimum viable php (MVP) for induieauth https://gist.github.com/donpdonp/d137a1d2aafce008c8ab
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Zegnat Interesting. I usually just point at Selfauth
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Zegnat What is Selfauth?
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Loqi selfauth is a single user authorization endpoint written in PHP which is easy for anyone to get running https://indieweb.org/selfauth
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@jenn @jimpick is Indieweb Summit recording/streaming video this year? (twitter.com/_/status/1011727826502860805)
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Zegnat Apparently everyone was looking for libs
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[sdepolo] Is the hashtag #indiewebcamp? I’m seeing #indiewebsummit as well. 🤷
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Zegnat Who knows. I just cross post #IndieWebSummit and #IndieWeb
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gRegorLove Recommend #indiewebsummit
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sketchess well that was short to get somewhere..... putted just a little note down
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joshproehl who is that on the main feed who was just talking about running a co-op?
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Zegnat Sorry, I wasn’t on main
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Zegnat So can’t tell you :(
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[sdepolo] are they switching sessions in the rooms now?
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joshproehl I'm sure I'll be able to find him in a replay or picture. :-D
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Zegnat All the streams will be available as VODs on the IndieWebCamp YouTube channel, so, yes! :D
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Zegnat [sdepolo]: it is about time for the next sessions, so porbably
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[sdepolo] @joshpr I’m super interested in co-ops so lmk when you find out.
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[dougbeal] Yes, but WiFi restarted
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sketchess blue is currently black
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Zegnat The eternal struggle of running tech events: functioning WiFi
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[cleverdevil] We're getting started in Green for anyone interested in self-hosting at home1
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sketchess next rounds are starting..
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[sdepolo] lookin good out here on the interwebs. I see seven viewers so far on the main room.
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Zegnat The Green room switched streaming URL, but the schedule has been updated!
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule#Tuesday
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Zegnat I am joining the Blue room for microformats discussions, but keeping an eye on IRC so if anything breaks, let me know! :D
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sketchess checking out what diversity will end up
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sketchess nice..... the notes were not saved....
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KartikPrabhu oops Blue room video is gone
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Zegnat Been reported in meta, GWG is monitoring the chat channels, we hope to be up again momentarily
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sketchess I'm hitting the middle of the night..... enjoy the summit guys.....
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Zegnat blue room should be back!
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Zegnat Have agood night sketchess
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sketchess you too....
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KartikPrabhu Zegnat: yes
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GWG It seems to be back up again
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sketchess bye
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@sdepolo I ❤️ this idea proposed by @anomalily at #indiewebsummit #changetheratio session: Drag queen #buildAWebsite day! Agreed, the #LGBTQ community has more to gain than most by embracing #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1011739362122334208)
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[anomalily] I wanna do a Drag Queen Build a Website Day so much. Who wants to co teach? Fabulous outfit required.
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jalcine Haha
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Zegnat [anomalily], do you fly me in for it?
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Zegnat We should probably put the whole alt/src thing on the table at some point, snarfed. Outside of a issue closing session ;)
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snarfed Zegnat: lol, sure!
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Loqi yea!
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Zegnat I am sticking in the Blue room for Vouch talk :D
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@namedotcom Please invite women to speak at your conference on subjects other than diversity. - @dori #IndieWeb https://t.co/ykqkb1IefK (twitter.com/_/status/1011744514044620800)
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[ryan339] https://docs.datproject.org/security links to https://datproject.org/blog/2016-12-18-p2p-reader-privacy which is a 404 which i find ironically entertaining 🙂
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@jackyalcine This is where we're indieweb'ing. (@ First Unitarian Church in Portland, OR) https://www.swarmapp.com/c/kZ5hq2P2q3q (twitter.com/_/status/1011745926728310784)
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dietricha_ edrex: what's the etherpad url for the gis session?
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Zegnat There should be links here for all etherpads: https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule#Tuesday
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Zegnat if people have been following them
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWeb Summit 2018 in Portland!!! Watch the main room: https://www.youtube.com/c/Indiewebcamp/live, or other rooms: https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule - Summit info: https://indieweb.org/2018. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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Zegnat Just a reminder, because some YouTube URLs have changed:
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Zegnat Watch the main room: https://www.youtube.com/c/Indiewebcamp/live, or other rooms: https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule
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[schmarty] zegnat: i've been starting a new video for each green room session
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Zegnat Yeah, just meant we need new URLs in the schedule constantly
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Zegnat So I have been checking them and manually updating
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Zegnat No problem, once I knew that was the case
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[schmarty] sorry about that. i was grabbing the URLs to put in the etherpads but have been moving around.
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Zegnat fixes it all in the end
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[schmarty] zegnat++
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Currently in a side track about Vouch, a extension to WebMention to handle moderation https://indieweb.org/Vouch. This is the preface to potential spam moderation, abuse management for the IndieWeb. #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011751522659635206)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ This is a heavy but important conversation - handling moderation and filtering of incoming data is the basis of moderation and filtering. #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011751828126601218)
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@anomalily ↩️ @sdepolo Thank you for sponsoring @indiewebcamp! And hell yes let’s do this thing! https://t.co/WlRZ3VJwVF (twitter.com/_/status/1011752379065094146)
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gRegorLove_ indie access control session, what's your etherpad?
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gRegorLove_ Disregard, looking at the wrong time block :)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Zero moderation of online networks is nigh impossible, if not insanely difficult. A lot of human moderation is needed. #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011754706262286336)
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@martijnvdven Awesome discussion going on about Vouch! (https://indieweb.org/Vouch) https://twitter.com/jackyalcine/status/1011754706262286336 (twitter.com/_/status/1011755034143584258)
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jgmac1106 What is governance model?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "governance model" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "governance model is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[schmarty] zegnat: i am going to make a new Green Room video again. brb.
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Zegnat Oh nooo~
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Zegnat Hahaha
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Zegnat I am ready
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Looking into how we build "implicit" trust by bridging and reinforcing via other networks (GitHub, Twitter, etc). #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011756291302330369)
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jgmac1106 Governance model of the IndieWeb community is currently non-existent. But there are bright minds working on ideas
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jgmac1106 governance model of the IndieWeb community is currently non-existent. But there are bright minds working on ideas
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@jackyalcine ↩️ This gave a lot of thinking into how we can begin handling moderation which can evolve into spam and abuse prevention. I'm so glad that this is something we're so invested and focused on. #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011756966610391040)
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Zegnat “too nice a day to be inside” - says someone. I look out of my window... neh, I’m good with being inside
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KartikPrabhu what is governance model?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "governance model" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "governance model is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: ^
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[jeanmacdonald] The post I mentioned in #changetheratio, by Liz Marley at OmniGroup: https://liz.micro.blog/2018/06/09/next-conference.html
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Loqi This week I spoke at NextDoor. I don’t have a verbatim record, but this is what I said, as close as I can recall. I spoke about Thinking like a Tester and being strategic about where we look for bugs. I was wrapping up by pointing out that our bias...
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@jackyalcine ↩️ @aaronpk In a session around access control into the IndieWeb. Here. We. Go! #IndieWeb #iws2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1011757879127429120)
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Zegnat I am going to have to look back on the #changetheratio stream!
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Zegnat I can’t believe I missed an LGBT angle at an IndieWeb event! After all the work I have put into documenting my own gender identity on my site
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] it looks like Drag Queens Building Websites is going to happen
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Zegnat There is no way I can justify getting a plane ticket to the US to teach Drag Queens web tech, sadly :(
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Zegnat But if anyone wants to fly me in, I am even happy to dress up for the occasion.
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jgmac1106 a lot of sad faces leaving the vouch sessions
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jalcine haha
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Zegnat Vouch was actually a really good talk!
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Zegnat It is just the usual thing: trust between humans is involved, so it can’t be boiled down into a simple binary check on the tech side. That makes us all sad, of course ;)
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jalcine indeed
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jalcine lots of room for implementation and scoping as to where Vouch can go though
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jalcine re: Vouch, this was the diagram on the board: https://noctule.jacky.wtf/index.php/s/Dk55NipEkszmcfR
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Zegnat Is this still the de-facto guide for selfhosting aperture, aaronpk? https://ascraeus.org/websub-part-ii-aperture/
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aaronpk yeah so far I haven't written up anything better!