#indieweb 2018-07-07

2018-07-07 UTC
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[kim_landwehr] [eddie] I’ve added the json feed for photo and book discovery from micro.blog to Indigenous (yeah) but when I try to do a reply I keep getting a status code 404 error is there anything I should look for on my end?
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[eddie] !tell [kim_landwehr] when you tap the reply icon, type a reply and tap the post button, then it attempts to send the reply post and it returns a 404 error? Or the feed itself is giving a 404 error?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106_ mornign indieweb
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sknebel good morning
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jgmac1106_ hope all is well sven
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@jgmac1106 We still need a venue for I#IndieWebCamp New York City Sept 14-16 or Sept 27-29th. Three rooms, projector in each. Probably around 30 people. Co-Sponsor this great event with us or donate your space. Also on: https://is.gd/Sl5VBN (twitter.com/_/status/1015554031559888896)
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@jgmac1106 @kevinmarks give @jeffjarvis a gentle nudge that the @cunyjschool should co-sponsor and host #IndieWebCamp NYC Sept 14th-16th or 27th-29th. If that doesn't work a hard push is fine too Also on: https://is.gd/JCNsV2 (twitter.com/_/status/1015555416363884544)
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@jgmac1106 Hey I have been collecting data for UX research with the the #IndieWeb WordPress community, but want to do a study on vocabulary and learning. Be  fun to contrast adult learning and youth learning #IndieWeb and Scratch Also on: https://is.gd/hnGDza (twitter.com/_/status/1015575221884063744)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Hey I have been collecting data for UX research with the the #IndieWeb WordPress community, but want to do a study on vocabulary and learning. Be  fun to contrast adult learning and youth learning #IndieWeb and Scratch (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4076-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1015575244629794816)
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[kim_landwehr] !tell [eddie] the first, when I tap the reply icon, type a reply and tap the post button I get a 404 error. The url I use to log into Indigenous is not connected to micro.blog, could that be the problem?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@ton_zylstra Wrapping my head around #webmention and #microformats part 2 https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/07/wrapping-my-head-around-webmentions-pt-2/ #indieweb @sebsel @frankmeeuwsen @ruk (twitter.com/_/status/1015607038519529473)
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@jgmac1106 Made some progress on the #IndieWEB IES #literacies grant. Hoping to fork  new social readers into a powerful headless lms driven by individual student blogs. ... https://is.gd/aj7nu4 (twitter.com/_/status/1015609007850041345)
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@jgmac1106 Made some progress on the #IndieWEB IES #literacies grant. Hoping to fork  new social readers into a powerful headless lms driven by individual student blogs. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rAk8tEZ_OHMjAJbBdrKFdktQI0sC6Lzrbt8eBuLt8yk/edit?usp=sharing (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4078-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1015609027319955456)
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@ame_lemieux ↩️ Splendid work! The focus on #IndieWeb is timely- lots to do with decentralization and self-generated content and design. If learning is not an equivalent of attainment, then we are onto something! #liteacires #edchat (twitter.com/_/status/1015611393079435265)
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aaronpk apparently I forgot to check in to this coffee shop 2 years ago. swarm said it was the first time I was here but I was like no i've definitely been here before.
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aaronpk figured out the date I was here by looking at my accounting records
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aaronpk then checked my website and swarm and sure enough I had just completely forgotten to check in
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aaronpk can't retroactively check in on swarm that far back, but I sure can on my website!
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snarfed hah funny
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[eddie] !tell [kim_landwehr] I’m gonna move this conversation to #dev just to move the debugging conversation off the main channel 🙂
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@_dgoldsmith Wrote a little thing about the #indieweb and politics: Being the change isn’t enough. https://ascraeus.org/being-the-change-isn-t-enough/ (twitter.com/_/status/1015630504446648325)
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@aaronpk ↩️ Yep! https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieauth That's annoying that http://wordpress.org doesn't have a link to the GitHub source. (twitter.com/_/status/1015638496306843648)
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GWG Nevermind, I did it
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@ChrisAldrich IndieWeb Summit 2018 Recap https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/07/indieweb-summit-2018-recap/ (twitter.com/_/status/1015647976457318400)
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[kevinmarks] https << the overhead of changing a big site https://medium.com/bbc-design-engineering/bbc-news-on-https-182b45ef60c
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Loqi ok, I added "the overhead of changing a big site https://medium.com/bbc-design-engineering/bbc-news-on-https-182b45ef60c" to the "See Also" section of /HTTPS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49709&oldid=49396
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chrisaldrich Ran across this upcoming DomainCamp event this morning: https://extend-domains.ecampusontario.ca/camp/
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chrisaldrich It's geared toward educators, but is open to the general public and some here may find it interesting/useful.
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[cleverdevil] Howdy, IndieWeb 🙂
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aaronpk gooood morning
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chrisaldrich morning cleverdevil
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dougbeal o/ cleverdevil
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@bradenslen Like: IndieWeb Summit 2018 Recap: https://ramblinggit.com/2018/07/like-indieweb-summit-2018-recap/ (twitter.com/_/status/1015670729654841344)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Summit 2018 Recap" https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/07/indieweb-summit-2018-recap/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2018/07/07/17/)
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[snarfed] sets up https://granary.xyz
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aaronpk [snarfed]++
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Loqi snarfed has 314 karma in this channel (395 overall)
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aaronpk oboy i'm gonna have a loooot of feeds to move
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gRegorLove Is granary.io going away?
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pstuifzand aaronpk, I guess it's not just Aperture your talking about?
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aaronpk I have a bunch of things on *.p3k.io domains
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pstuifzand Is there a move away from .io ?
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skippy https://skippy.net/microsub-and-the-new-reader-evolution/
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aaronpk skippy++
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Loqi skippy has 7 karma in this channel (11 overall)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Microsub and the new reader evolution" https://skippy.net/microsub-and-the-new-reader-evolution/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2018/07/07/29/)
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skippy eventually i need to add webmention support...
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aaronpk pstuifzand: see the discussion here https://ascraeus.org/being-the-change-isn-t-enough/
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skippy i fully understand the motivation to not buy new .io domains; but deferring from using ones already paid for doesnt really do much about the issue, it seems to me.
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aaronpk if domains were a one-time purchase I would agree
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skippy sure. i meant, but failed to articulate, that stopping the use immediately doesnt do much good, but certainly not renewing does.
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[eddie] Yeah, I don’t think anyone will turn off the servers today, but it’s kind of like “depreciated” things in software terms. Making the new available ASAP to give people a time period to switch over
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[manton] For existing .io domains, you also have to balance this with breaking URLs. I'll probably renew mine for a little while and redirect them where it makes sense.
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aaronpk yeah exactly. thankfully most of the use of my p3k.io is applications rather than URLs with content, so that's a little easier to deal with. webmention.io is going to be a trick though, and probably will take a few years to fully move off it without making a bunch of people suddenly mad.
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[cleverdevil] Whew, made it to the airport.
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: shouldn't a permanent redirect header for a while help with that?
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sknebel redirects on webmention endpoints are ... iffy.
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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[eddie] Have a good flight, [cleverdevil]!
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[snarfed] (granary.io isn't going anywhere anytime soon either)
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aaronpk KartikPrabhu: yeah most webmention clients will just fail if the endpoint returns a redirect. basically I have to have a long-term migration plan and get everyone to move their endpoints over time.
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aaronpk kind of like what I have to do with indieauth.com too
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KartikPrabhu hmm yeah
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[manton] [aaronpk] Do you have a new name picked for webmention.io yet? Just curious.
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aaronpk nope
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aaronpk heh, march 2017 https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/78
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Loqi [aaronpk] #78 rename the project?
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[eddie] #NamingIsHard 😔
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@aaronpk ↩️ @Lucid00 @jimpick https://indieweb.org/indieauth-vs-openid-connect (twitter.com/_/status/1015721718105567233)
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jjuran I've never recognized "io" as an abbreviation for input/output anyway. That's "I/O".
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jjuran Even if it were, and even if it weren't someone's country code, it still wouldn't make sense. Compare: MIT (educational), EFF (non-profit org), GitHub (commercial), GitHub (input/output). One of these things is not like the others.
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jjuran It's these very defects that make commercial use of .io edgy, and appealing to a certain crowd.
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@andymci An independent web doesn't necessarily mean an open web. Thinking about private sites and networks for groups, families, personal use. #indieweb #justathought (twitter.com/_/status/1015745750599389184)
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KartikPrabhu open web does not mean public web either
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