#indieweb 2018-07-25

2018-07-25 UTC
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I appreciate your thoughts on the siloed nature of Flipboard. I’m reticent to use it myself. I did notice that within minutes of setting it up it already had about 12 followers. I’m curious to see what the traffic looks like coming back from it. [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/24/an-indieweb-magazine-on-flipboard/?replytocom=62386#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1021916715641331712)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ .@pfefferle, @dshanske, and 700+ others have been self-dogfooding Webmention for a while. Feel free to join us in the IndieWeb #WordPress chat to talk about some remaining work and support it might require to do so. https://chat.indieweb.org/wordpress/ https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/24/reply-to-morten-rand-hendriksen-about-webmention-and-wordpress-core/ (twitter.com/_/status/1021923613916581888)
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@OnlineInstruct1 An IndieWeb Magazine on Flipboard #Learning http://dld.bz/gUQ8q (twitter.com/_/status/1021959925709332481)
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@gozala ↩️ I got to learn about https://indieweb.org/rsvp which I think is great as it decoupled from choice of medium. Prototyped dat version at indieweb camp, making ipfs version would be even easier. (twitter.com/_/status/1021965796640092160)
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Loqi mblaney: jgmac1106 left you a message 18 hours, 25 minutes ago: awesome, I was looking for some type of ledger that could record a credential or endorsement being given. They way badges done now so complicated. I meant to just sketch out webmention badges but went overboard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJbqfV0P18 and wrote abotu webmention badges here: http://jgregorymcverry.com/can-we-have-an-indieweb-webmentions-credentialing-system-openbadges/
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mblaney jgmac1106 cool I had a look at those links. will see what I can do.
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@megarush1024 ↩️ @MarcoInEnglish IMHO webmentions and the rest of indieweb are the best things since sliced bread. (twitter.com/_/status/1021991765644070912)
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tantek__ gozala++
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sknebel good morning indieweb!
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sknebel (friendly reminder there's going to be vHWCs today!)
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jgmac1106 morning #indieweb
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jeremych- Good morning sknebel. Alas, not going to be able to do vHWC CEST today. Have fun.
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@jgmac1106 If you have not seen what @johnjohnston made with the Flickr API to be able to display faves without using the flash photo roll from Flickr you must see this: http://johnjohnston.info/blog/flickr-faves/ #ds106 #indieweb Thx John. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/5007-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1022070517631799300)
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@jgmac1106 Post-Kind Plugin with Independent Publisher #IndieWeb Theme: http://youtu.be/FuIWq30p1SA?a via @YouTube (twitter.com/_/status/1022081724505837568)
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jgmac1106 realize I already have an authorized bridgy app with Twitter, I need to make a tutorial from a new account without bridgy authorized already
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jgmac1106 …except I can’t figure out how to delink account…oh well house is waking up, back to tutorials later
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jgmac1106 darn deleting and reinstalling bridgy doesn’t delink
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sknebel you can remove apps in the twitter settings
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jgmac1106 ahh thx
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eli_oat good morning IndieWeb
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jeremych- Hello eli_oat
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sknebel 90 minutes until vHWC (ping sknebel so I don't forget)
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-07-25 5:29pm CEST (#6342)
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@jgmac1106 @mblaney Fully agree an #OpenBadges endorsement of badge (not using credential since it means so much in dev circles) needing nothing more than two permalinks but I like the #indieweb http://indiepay.me workflow for two reasons: 1: I want students… http://jgregorymcverry.com/5021-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1022123930000261120)
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@cswordpress Working on documenting the entire indieweb setup process with WordPress for screen reader users, including config of plugins, while I rebuild customerservant with all of this done. Tut will be out sometime around mid next week. (twitter.com/_/status/1022131189522591749)
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@cswordpress ↩️ Still working on adding microformats 2 support to #genesiswp child themes but I'm going to temporarily switch away because I don't want to wait for that to be done to start owning content and incorporating as many indieweb principles as possible on that website. (twitter.com/_/status/1022132264682106882)
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@cswordpress ↩️ I want to make it as easy as possible for non-developers to add all the indieweb bits to a #genesiswp site, and that means more than just sharing some code for ppl to stick in functions.php or some templates. Because this will be more than one code snippet. (twitter.com/_/status/1022132717520084993)
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jhsheridan Any indieweb folks in Eastern Europe at the moment. American currently in Bulgaria here
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jhsheridan Any indieweb folks in Eastern Europe at the moment? American currently in Bulgaria here
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@cswordpress ↩️ I have a lot to say about the work things I'm doing, but that's not always full-length blog posts. Indieweb can help with this because it's already done so on the personal side. (twitter.com/_/status/1022138563377475585)
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[eddie] is uploading all my Instagram archives using the Micro.blog macOS app
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aaronpk ooh
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aaronpk I need to do that
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[eddie] All my 2011 photos are already freed to my website: https://eddiehinkle.com/photos/2011/
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aaronpk amazing!
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[eddie] If you decide to do that in the next couple of days use the beta build Manton posted in the m.b bugs channel. There was a bug with the Media endpoint
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jhsheridan anyone here have any luck with OwnYourGram and Wordpress. I'm using the Micropub plugin, but OwnYourGram and Quill are both saying I'm missing my location header. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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snarfed jhsheridan: sorry for the trouble! that's a known issue right now. GWG what's the status on that?
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jhsheridan man I love indieweb... the PLUGIN AUTHOR shows up to help
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jhsheridan No need to apologize. Maybe I can help work out the kinks
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snarfed eh GWG is really the maintainer these days
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snarfed jhsheridan: first thing, check that your host isn't stripping http headers? https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/#frequently-asked-questions
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jhsheridan snarfed: I'm self-hosting on a linode server and running nginx
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snarfed ah ok. thanks!
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jhsheridan not sure if that helps or hurts the situation
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4vc5ndth.jpg
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jhsheridan lol loqi
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@cswordpress ↩️ I want to not have to stop what I'm doing and go off and advocate for accessibility without notice, at least to the extent possible. Indieweb can help with that because POSH, (plain old semantic HTML). (twitter.com/_/status/1022141995752546305)
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Loqi vHWC (ping sknebel so I don't forget)
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Loqi Countdown set by sknebel on 2018-07-25 at 3:59pm CEST
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[eddie] manton++ for Instagram import function in Micro.blog macOS app
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[eddie] All my Instagram photos are reclaimed!
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snarfed interesting! i wonder if it scrapes. it must
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aaronpk it works on the instagram export that you can download
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[snarfed] ahh right
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Reply to Feeds and Gardens" https://www.kickscondor.com/2018/07/25/webmentions-as-the-wall/
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[eddie] The only downfall is no videos, but that’s because Micro.blog doesn’t support video content yet
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Reclaiming your content" https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/07/25/17/article/
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[jsorge] Hey everyone! I'm trying to get my micropub stuff polished up and running the micropub.rocks testing. When I create a new post (the first test) I'm getting a fail back on the `Location` header. Except Im sending that header. Here's the output:
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[jsorge] ```
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[jsorge] HTTP/1.1 201 Created
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[jsorge] content-length: 79
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[jsorge] date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:53:33 GMT
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[jsorge] ```
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[jsorge] Location=https://1e4c9ef8.ngrok.io/2018/07/25/micropub-test-of-creating-a-basic
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[jsorge] Any ideas?
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[cleverdevil] That doesn't appear to be a properly formatted location header.
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[cleverdevil] Headers are sent with ":" as the separator, it looks like you are sending the location header as a part of the HTTP return body.
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sknebel and a clear topic for #dev :)
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[cleverdevil] Haha, yup, that too!
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[jsorge] Whoops, sorry!
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[cleverdevil] No worries, we all forget 😛
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[jsorge] wipes the noob from my brow
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[jsorge] I'll look into that, [cleverdevil]. Thanks!
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[jsorge] [cleverdevil]++
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@ShowHNDaily http://Indieweb.xyz. https://indieweb.xyz (twitter.com/_/status/1022157048337846275)
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@MarcoInEnglish ↩️ I, for one, definitely look forward to your tutorial, as I'm sure I'll learn from it. I have set up the recommended Indieweb plugins, but something isn't right. My first status I published through Bridgy arrived a total mess on Twitter, with a broken link back to my post. (twitter.com/_/status/1022161870634053634)
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@sdepolo Good news for #indieweb. Facebook Twitter and Msoft interoperability tool may help users can move between services. #dataTransferProject http://bit.ly/2LjF87k (twitter.com/_/status/1022165372688990209)
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tantek__ yes we shall see about that
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aaronpk I wonder what that's going to look like, and whether that's something micro.blog could import from too
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dougbeal eddie: did you use OwnYourGram? I'm wondering if I will end up with dupliate posts.
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[eddie] dougbeal: Yes, I use OwnYourGram. When importing from Micro.blog’s macOS app it allows you to select what photos you want to import
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[eddie] so you do need to know which OwnYourGram photos are on your site and to select only the photos that aren’t already on your site
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[cleverdevil] Well, my wife has officially told me she wants to go all-in IndieWeb.
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[cleverdevil] She wants to move all of her Instagram and Facebook content to her Micro.blog website.
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[cleverdevil] We'll start with Instagram tonight!
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[cleverdevil] (Not sure how we'll do Facebook... I am not sure I have the appetite to go through the entire process again!)
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[snarfed] cleverdevil++ nice!
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tantek__ cleverdevil++ awesome!
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tantek__ cleverdevil, re: "not sure I have the appetite to go through the entire process again!" - that's how you'll find ways of doing it even more efficiently, something that will benefit everyone!
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@iamchrisburnell Today at #hwclondon I’ll be attempting to enable my Micropub endpoint to accept JSON #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1022192901579857921)
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snarfed idly wonders how many twitter @-mention webmentions tantek is up to now in webmention.io
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tantek__ figures that'll force him to learn how to do "BigData" processing, and will likely be looking for snarfed for a tutorial in getting started
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dougbeal chuckles.
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snarfed heh no, just a simple select count(*) (or equivalent) on the wm.io db. no big tutorial needed, just a todo on aaronpk's list :P
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[eddie] awesome cleverdevil!
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[eddie] cleverangel++
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[eddie] cleverdevil++
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[cleverdevil] I'd love to see Micro.blog get Facebook import to match its Instagram import.
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snarfed although true, i can do it in bigquery too
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snarfed (damn you tantek!)
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[cleverdevil] My wife really wants the "on this day" functionality, which I could potentially build as a service to run against her Micro.blog website.
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[eddie] Yeah, that would be pretty awesome
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[eddie] (Facebook import for Micro.blog)
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tantek__ also OTDAAS!
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tantek__ follows your h-feed with WebSub etc. (perhaps via a microsub server)
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tantek__ then shows you your OTD for any given day
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tantek__ and could even post "OTD" posts to your site automatically via micropub
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tantek__ (see all the brainstorming and warnings about where On This Day can go wrong)
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snarfed tantek__: 159,374 total, as of a month ago
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snarfed https://bigquery.cloud.google.com/savedquery/586366768654:ae95033c76ed4edda2e1df5c299e3a3a
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, I think the OTDAAS would be cool, but doing it in a way that it would work with a majority of blogs would be.... a challenge.
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zoglesby schmarty: is it safe to walk from the Camden Yards light rail station to the meetup location?
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zoglesby I am not really familiar with that area
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tantek__ snarfed, home page mentions, or all?
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schmarty Zach Oglesby: it's pretty reasonable! head to Pratt St then east to Light St. Cross Light St. and walk south along it until you get to the venue, just before Cross St.
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snarfed that number is kind of hilarious btw, it means that by our best guess, 10+% of all webmentions ever sent, anywhere, were sent to http://tantek.com/
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Loqi Tantek Çelik
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tantek__ SMH
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tantek__ aaronpk++ for wm io
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snarfed sturgeon's law
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schmarty the walk is along the downtown / inner harbor are which has lots of businesses and tourism-related stuff.
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zoglesby Okay. That sounds better then the way I was going to walk
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tantek__ snarfed, now I'm kinda curious from how many unique accounts
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@egoexpress Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg is back from hiatus! Had a great time w/ @cowglow and our newest member. Missed @jkphl though. :( #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1022206395062648834)
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bradenslen Good afternoon
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eli_oat howdy!
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sknebel morning!
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bradenslen I was reading through the chat log, a Facebook import for Micro.blog blows my mind.
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bradenslen Hi eli_oat I just made the connection.
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eli_oat CONNECT! :D
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[eddie] (just to be clear that fb import was hypothetical 😄)
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[cleverdevil] Yup, hehe.
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[cleverdevil] It would be epic, though!
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bradenslen [eddie] yes but it is a great idea
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sknebel are facebooks existing exports usable?
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[cleverdevil] Not really.
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[cleverdevil] Last I checked, you get lower resolution photos, and crappy, difficult to parse HTML.
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KartikPrabhu just use OGP or something no?
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[cleverdevil] I personally used https://github.com/danburzo/fb-export
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Loqi [danburzo] fb-export: Export (most) of your Facebook data using Node.js and the Graph API.
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bradenslen too bad just getting the photos would be nice
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[cleverdevil] If you just want to get the photos, the above project works pretty well.
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[cleverdevil] The Graph API makes it completely possible to write a first-class exporter that would speak Micropub on the other side to publish to arbitrary CMS'.
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[cleverdevil] But, its a fair amount of work.
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bradenslen I'm trying to figure out how to get my friends off FB. In a bunch.
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[kevinmarks] it's TWiG time
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[kevinmarks] live.twit.tv
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[kevinmarks] give me things
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: https://baffle.tech/
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[kevinmarks] thats going to take some explaining.
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[kevinmarks] I can't even get it microsub to work for me yet, I'll wait until it's a bit more mature to try to get leou to use it live on air
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snarfed lol sure
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[cleverdevil] 🙂
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[cleverdevil] We should get [kevinmarks] set up with Aperture + (Together | Monocle | Indigenous).
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[cleverdevil] Its pretty great, once you get it rolling.
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[kevinmarks] it didn't liek the micropub on my hosted known
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snarfed oh [kevinmarks] i assume you've discussed https://snarfed.org/2018-06-07_turning-off-facebook-for-bridgy ?
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snarfed and twitter's similar moves just yesterday, https://blog.twitter.com/developer/en_us/topics/tools/2018/new-developer-requirements-to-protect-our-platform.html
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[kevinmarks] not yet, but I will put them on the agenda
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zoglesby schmarty: lightrail is have big issues. What’s parking like near by?
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schmarty Not great! It's federal hill.
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@calum_ryan ↩️ @ohhelloana @HWCLondon @iamchrisburnell thanks for coming along! Good to see where we can improve IndieWeb documentation/other resources (twitter.com/_/status/1022232863951994881)
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[kevinmarks] who's looked at https://datatransferproject.dev/
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tantek going to a meeting about/on that the Friday after dweb summit
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@rubygems indieweb-post_types (0.3.1): IndieWeb Post Type Discovery for Microformats 2 JSON. https://rubygems.org/gems/indieweb-post_types (twitter.com/_/status/1022240297718345729)
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@jgmac1106 @fourtonfish Here is a pixelated gif poem I wrote using @glitch. It is a found poem lifted from the #IndieWeb -Dev chat as we worked with @drewmcweeny on understanding some CSS and Bootstrap basics: https://a-poem-about-css.glitch.me/ #ds106 #clmooc #edu522 (http://jgregorymcverry.com/5038-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1022240758986952704)
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[kevinmarks] I wonder if I should link to the evil svg from TWiT
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@kickscondor Slurping up lots of HTML, so that I can get comment counts. But the microformats templates in use out there are all over the place. I can’t imagine the number of templates in use across the Indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/1022242694855311365)
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KartikPrabhu kicks: not sure what that tweet means^ microformats are "HTML template" agnostic
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kicks oh, you know, h-cards in the wrong (i think?) places, comments showing up as feeds or not marked as comments
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KartikPrabhu well I don't think there is a "wrong" place for h-cards
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KartikPrabhu and people are not obligated to mark up comments
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kicks well yeah - i mean post and comment author h-cards specifically
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KartikPrabhu again, not sure
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KartikPrabhu what is authorship
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Loqi authorship is how to determine who the author(s) of a post are https://indieweb.org/authorship
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KartikPrabhu there ^
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[kevinmarks] leo plugged withknown.com
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kicks known's templates do seem like the perfectest ones
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kicks KartikPrabhu++ apologies, thank you for the link, it helped :)
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@t co-organizing IndieWebCamp SF / Decentralized Web Hackers Day next Tuesday 2018-07-31 @MozSF, complementary to #DWebSummit 2018! <20 spots left! Details & RSVP: http://tantek.com/2018/212/e1/indiewebcamp-sf-dweb-hackers-day #mozilla #openweb #indieweb #dweb http://tantek.com/t4vc1 (twitter.com/_/status/1022258206087757824)
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[cleverdevil] [manton]++ All of my wife's Instagram photos are migrated to her Micro.blog website thanks to the easy import feature available in the macOS app!
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[cleverdevil] [aaronpk]++ for OwnYourGram making it seamless for her to transition to the "new world."
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tantek__ cleverdevil, really interested in hearing how that works in practice over the next few weeks
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tantek__ what if any roadbumps y'all run into
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[cleverdevil] Absolutely!
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aaronpk I can't visit that site because I took over .dev TLD for my development environment
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[cleverdevil] FWIW, since Facebook now offers a structured export with high resolution photos, I am going to try and make a reusable set of tools to drive a Facebook -> Micro.blog (or, really, any Micropub site) migration.
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aaronpk and google said it was for their internal use only when they bought it, and now they apparently changed their minds