#indieweb 2018-07-26

2018-07-26 UTC
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GWG [cleverdevil]: Sounds great.
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[cleverdevil] Hopefully I don't lose steam 😄
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[cleverdevil] We shall see.
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aaronpk Anything you can write about the process along the way would be helpful too
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[cleverdevil] :thumbsup:
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[manton] [cleverdevil] Excellent!
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[tantek] What is .dev?
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Loqi local development is (or local dev, local dev setup) the practice of having a version of your site on your local machine like a laptop that you can use for development purposes, even when offline https://indieweb.org/%22.dev%22
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[kim_landwehr] OK I got Monocle.p3k.io working using my blot.im account, now I am trying to figure how to save articles to read later, any suggestions?
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[tantek] Aaronpk can you add the blogpost about .dev and policy there to that wiki page ^^
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[tantek] I’ll confront the data transfer folks about it in person when I meet with them next Friday (the 8th)
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[snarfed] [kim_landwehr]: https://www.indiepaper.io
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[jgmac1106] Did anyone show for vHWC-Americas [chrisaldrich] I can pop in for a few
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GWG Isn't that not for 19 more minutes?
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dougbeal Yeah, quite writing should be starting now for vHWC
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dougbeal No hangouts url on the wiki
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GWG dougbeal: I await it
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dougbeal GWG: no sign of anyone else locally, should I create a Hangouts?
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GWG Fine with me.
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dougbeal I guess this is it? Join the conversation on Hangouts: https://hangouts.google.com/group/Hr6gtPobC9APUksw1
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dougbeal not sure it will start without anyone else?
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] We're technically in quiet writing hour for vHWC, but we could use that hangout.
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Here’s the Google Hangouts link for tonight’s quiet writing hour and virtual Homebrew Website Club #IndieWeb https://hangouts.google.com/call/9tqn56vvdtKmjTPN7yVUAAEE https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/20/virtual-homebrew-website-club-meetup-on-july-25-2018/?replytocom=62593#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1022300331726622720)
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tantek__ Tim Swast has a static site that he serves over both https and dat! https://www.timswast.com/
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tantek__ see the .well-known/dat file at that domain for the dat root node
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tantek__ Ryan has added micropub support to his site https://iambismark.net/
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Loqi Ryan Johnson
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tantek__ all built with Elixir
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[kim_landwehr] Ok I have set up Indiepaper up and working, but I still have no idea where the stuff I am saving is going too
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@DevelopKitchen http://Indieweb.xyz - https://twitter.development.kitchen/links/5657893730779136 (give feedback at https://development.kitchen/#!/topic/5657893730779136) (twitter.com/_/status/1022310036356440069)
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[cleverdevil] [kim_landwehr] Indiepaper will publish saved articles to the Micropub server you login with. If you’re using Aperture, it’s best to login with the URL https://aperture.p3k.io so that you can save articles to a channel in Aperture.
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[chrisaldrich] [eddie] Time to update the copyright in your footer from 2017 to 2018.... 😉
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[chrisaldrich] Nice post today btw...
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[chrisaldrich] What is OTD?
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Loqi on this day is a feature on some silos and indieweb sites which show posts published on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years; commons sites tend to show more general historical events that occurred on that same day https://indieweb.org/OTD
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[chrisaldrich] A quick example to add from during quiet writing hour: https://boffosocko.com/archives/otd/
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@matpacker Have had my head buried in WordPress and IndieWeb stuff all day long, I've had enough for today, time to head home and relax. (twitter.com/_/status/1022366847327457280)
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@kickscondor I admit that the Indieweb (and the blogosphere before it) seemed repellent at first - I thought it was navel-gazing. Blogging about blogging. I think I discounted the beauty of innovating a medium by simply using the medium. (twitter.com/_/status/1022369274567028736)
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@t ↩️ @csageland open to all curious about anything and everything #dweb #indieweb. Please join us! http://tantek.com/t4vc2 (twitter.com/_/status/1022375911717527552)
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[jgmac1106] Morning IndieWeb
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@jgmac1106 Homebrew Website Club Badge: http://jgregorymcverry.com/homebrew-website-club-badge/ https://t.co/O6t9yq20pn (twitter.com/_/status/1022422296789696512)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Homebrew Website Club Badge _( http://jgregorymcverry.com)_ > This badge celebrates those who attend a Homebrew Website Club. Criteria: Send a webmention and include a link to a photo or chatlog of your attendance at your first Homebrew Website Club. (This… https://www.brid.gy/publish/twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1022423818541981696)
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petermolnar jgmac1106: there should be a 88x31 version of it ;)
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petermolnar it would line up well with valid xhtml1 css2.1, etc banners
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jgmac1106 ha ha, yeah just fooling around too early in the morning
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@jgmac1106 Week zero tutorial on our #edu522 class on @glitch https://edu-522.glitch.me/weekzero.htmlGet you started on shared hosting, installing an IndieWeb theme, and getting your plugins going. Hope to finish by EOD. #edtechchat #DoOO #ds106 #clmooc #literacies (http://jgregorymcverry.com/5061-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1022444068251553792)
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dougbeal o/ indieweb
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dougbeal what is open badge
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "open badge" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "open badge is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 what is open badges?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "open badges" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "open badges is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 What is credentialing?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "credentialing" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "credentialing is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 we have some page somewhere [dougbeal] but open badges is an “open” standard mantained by IMS Global that uses a JSON-LD to bake a bunch of metadata into an image
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jeremych- Hello IndieWeb
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jgmac1106 !tell Marcozde are you okay with me linking your about me page? I want to include some pieces on diversity and learning on the web in my “Who Am I Module?” https://edu-522.glitch.me/moduleone.html
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Gardner Campbell] No Digital Facelifts: Thinking the Unthinkable About Open Educational Experiences
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jgmac1106 crap…..need to fix something on that page
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MarcoZDe jgmac1106: Sure!
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Loqi MarcoZDe: jgmac1106 left you a message 1 minute ago: are you okay with me linking your about me page? I want to include some pieces on diversity and learning on the web in my “Who Am I Module?” https://edu-522.glitch.me/moduleone.html
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jgmac1106 if you have a personal post or anything that goes more into depth about learning or building while blind happy to swap as well
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jgmac1106 may not be so sharing with my Glitch projects, the h-entry stuff got stripped from my templates
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jgmac1106 https://edu-522.glitch.me/moduleone.html
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Loqi [J. Gregory McVerry] Module One: Who Am I?
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jgmac1106 fixed, now to add to the microformats course template
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jgmac1106 ignore inline styling for a bit
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[eddie] !tell [chrisaldrich] Thanks! haha yeah, the funny thing is the static pages built by Jekyll have 2017 copyright, and the dynamic pages that are replacing the static pages are copyright 2018. I should probably just update the static template's year 🙂
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[kim_landwehr] [cleverdevil] I am logging into Monocle using https://aperture.p3k.io/ I get the error missing_endpoint. We didn't find a Microsub endpoint at your website. Not sure how to fix it. TIA
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[eddie] Hey [kim_landwehr] You would log into IndiePaper with aperture.p3k.io, but log into Monocle with your personal URL, not aperture.p3k.io 🙂
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[eddie] Because your personal url has the microsub link that already points to aperture
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[kim_landwehr] [eddie] once I do that do I need to create a speacial channel or source in aperture?
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[eddie] Since I haven't read ALL the logs and am not entirely sure where you are in the process I'll give a couple step outline 🙂 the first thing about IndiePaper is deciding if you want to add it to an existing channel or a new channel. If you want to add it to a new channel then you first step is to log in to https://aperture.p3k.io and create a new channel.
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[eddie] Either once you create that channel or if you want to just add it to an existing channel, then you visit https://indiepaper.io and enter https://aperture.p3k.io as your login url
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[eddie] That will take you to Aperture which will as for YOUR url so it knows who is trying to add IndiePaper
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[eddie] That will then verify you are who you say you are, but having you approve that you want to allow Aperture to use your info
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[eddie] Then Aperture should be logged in and will ask you what channel you want to save IndiePaper articles into
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[eddie] Select the channel you want and click the "Save" or confirmation button
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[eddie] That will then take you back to IndiePaper.io where you can add a bookmarklet or automatically configure the macOS or iOS apps (depending on what device you are on)
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[eddie] Saving articles through the IndiePaper bookmarklet or apps should now be ready
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[eddie] Then, once you've saved an article you are ready to go to Monocle and login with your personal url, which already knows about Aperture and you should be able to go to the channel you selected with IndiePaper and see any articles you save
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[eddie] That should be all the steps 🙂 Feel free to ask any questions about the above steps, I know that was a lot
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[kim_landwehr] [eddie] do you know if the ios workflow is working?
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[eddie] Oh yes, it does. To use workflow, on the "Bookmark/Configure app" page there is a "Show Details" button
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[eddie] If you click the Show Details button, it should present the information you need for Workflow
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jackjamieson Good morning, IndieWeb
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[kim_landwehr] Thanks [eddie] I finally got it working
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[eddie] 🙌 congrats!
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dougbeal kim_landwehr++ yay!
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Loqi kim_landwehr has 2 karma
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Loqi yay!
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dougbeal eddie++
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Loqi eddie has 28 karma in this channel (75 overall)
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[cleverdevil] Just got to work and noticed [kim_landwehr]'s message. Glad you got it working!
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gRegorLove Good morning, #indieweb
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[eddie] cleveverdevil: Sent a PR with an initial pass at some IndieAuth instructions
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[eddie] oops
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[eddie] cleverdevil: Sent a PR with an initial pass at some IndieAuth instructions
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[cleverdevil] Cool!
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[cleverdevil] One request: IndiePaper -> Indiepaper
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[eddie] ohhhh :thumbsup:
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[eddie] I don't know why it's stuck in my head that way
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[cleverdevil] Thanks, merged and pushed to the site 🙂
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[cleverdevil] eddie++
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Loqi eddie has 29 karma in this channel (76 overall)
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[eddie] awesome 🙂
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@00d4n1_ebooks If i search for my indieweb ostatus identifier from masto well, glitchsoc,…. (twitter.com/_/status/1022523594725842944)
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[eddie] 🙌 Officially launched my (unborn) son's site https://luke.hinkle.life It's a small view only website that links back to canonical posts on my own website. But the posts get there when I select his website as my syndication target
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[eddie] lol his website will be > 24 hours older than he is
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snarfed [eddie]++
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Loqi eddie has 30 karma in this channel (77 overall)
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KartikPrabhu [eddie]: that is awesome!
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[eddie] I'll have him POSSE-ing from a ripe young age 😆
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jhsheridan just wanted to come in here and GWG++
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KartikPrabhu jhsheridan: pluses come at the start
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jhsheridan He helped me debug my indieweb-worpdress issues via email, and I don't know him a bit. This is a great community!
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jhsheridan ++GWG
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KartikPrabhu GWG++ for jhsheridan
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Loqi gwg has 241 karma in this channel (390 overall)
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jeremych- The name comes first, then the plusses.
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jeremych- Snap
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jhsheridan ah... but has to be at the beginning of the comment?
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jhsheridan thanks y'all
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jhsheridan GWG++
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Loqi gwg has 242 karma in this channel (391 overall)
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jhsheridan there we go
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snarfed jhsheridan: awesome! what was the problem?
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snarfed GWG: should we (probably) add jhsheridan's problem to the plugin's FAQ? since other people have been hitting it recently too
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jhsheridan snarfed: PEBKAC
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jhsheridan Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
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snarfed jhsheridan: oh i'm familiar. :P happens to lots of people...hence maybe still worth adding to our FAQ
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jhsheridan In my WP user profile page, I had http://jhsheridan.com instead of https
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KartikPrabhu that is the most important problem
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jhsheridan but, GWG did say he thought he put something in there to automatically deal wit h that
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snarfed ah ok
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jhsheridan so seems like maybe I still was able to be of some use to him
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snarfed also weird symptom (Location header) for that problem, but no matter
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snarfed feel free to add to the FAQ if you want! should be doable entirely in github's web UI. https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/blob/master/readme.md#frequently-asked-questions
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jhsheridan snarfed: will do
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jhsheridan now back to all the other problems I had... haha
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jhsheridan which is mostly just theme dev... not indieweb errors
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[cleverdevil] New RSS reader -> https://feediary.com
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aaronpk Is it doing anything old readers didn't?
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gRegorLove Limited to 50 feeds on free tier
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[asuh] RIP Hipchat https://twitter.com/stewart
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[asuh] Specifically: https://twitter.com/stewart/status/1022574777230229504
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@stewart Details: • Atlassian is discontinuing Hipchat/Stride • Slack is purchasing the IP to better support those users who choose to migrate • We’re both working closely together to make sure that’s as simple and painless a process as possible … (twitter.com/_/status/1022574777230229504)
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aaronpk whoa
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gRegorLove what is Hipchat?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Hipchat" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Hipchat is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[ryan339] 1) good riddance to a crappy product that many poor souls were stuck using, 2) why must the world always trend towards centralized silos?
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jalcine lol
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jalcine my friend just mentioned how a lot of people internally didn't know
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jalcine like they just launched a new feature Monday
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jalcine I feel bad for them
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jalcine b/c layoffs are _going_ to happen
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[kevinmarks] Call to Stewart: I said close more Jira bugs, not close Atlassian down.
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snarfed hi [kevinmarks]! lol.
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snarfed also, https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2018-07-26/1532616475433200 ?
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Loqi [[snarfed]] [kevinmarks], mind adding sknebel too? he's been doing great work on mf2py recently too
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snarfed (to pypi. or feel free to make me an owner and i can. either way.)
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[kevinmarks] I thought sknebel didn't have a pypi account
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snarfed oh, good point. hey sknebel, if that's true, mind making one?
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snarfed oh also sorry for the false alarm [kevinmarks], somehow i thought unmung was .org, not .com
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[kevinmarks] I should tidy it up a bit
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Margo1 Hi all! I am a journalist in Seattle currently working on a story on techno-activists (in the broadest sense of the word) here in the city for Crosscut.com. I would love to speak to you for the article, ask you some questions about Seattle Privacy Coalition. Perhaps some of you would be willing to meet this weekend or next week? I'm flexible qua timing and could meet you anywhere that's convenient. I’m working with a deadline, so the sooner the bett
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Margo1 meet-ups or events happening this week or next that would be good for me to know about? Let me know what you think as soon as you can. If easier, don’t hesitate to contact me on the number below! All best, Margo Vansynghel | Journalist +1 206 487 2026 | @margo_vs www.margovs.com
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Margo1 Sorry, about Indieweb*
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phildini1 👋