#indieweb 2018-08-17

2018-08-17 UTC
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@willnorris Both of my boys had domains long before they were born. #indieweb https://nypost.com/2018/08/16/first-comes-baby-then-comes-babys-personalized-domain-name/ (twitter.com/_/status/1030251111179939842)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Peter Molnar had a recent post with lots of useful advice about running a static IndieWeb site: https://petermolnar.net/running-a-static-indieweb-site/ https://boffosocko.com/2018/08/16/reply-to-kartik-singhal-about-webmention/?replytocom=71313#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1030278967503204355)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-17.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@yahananxie The #Fediverse welcomes everyone from #BreakingMyTwitter ! Simply pick your choice of platform here: https://fediverse.party and still communicate with the rest! Be it #Hubzilla #Friendica #Diaspora #Pleroma #Misskey #GNUsocial #Mastodon . #FreeCulture #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1030353421193306112)
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@ochtendgrijs ↩️ Ook: https://aaronparecki.com/presentations?tag=indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/1030406499389120512)
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@Christo37433424 Who else is interested in the IndieWeb? I will be experimenting with my website and telling you about the results. So follow me! #myfirstTweet #indieweb #SEOtips #NewTwitter (twitter.com/_/status/1030434788983885824)
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@Christo37433424 If the #future belongs to the decentralized social web, does it mean that #IndieWeb brings the future closer? #technology #socialmedia #changetheworld (twitter.com/_/status/1030438420974329856)
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[jgmac1106] sounds awesome @kiethjgrant
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[keithjgrant] Adding Bookmark support into the Omnibear UI is proving to be trickier than I thought. I might need to re-think things a bit. Will probably post some screenshots for feedback later
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[jgmac1106] I'd like to raise my hands for replies and being able to drop in a link rather than just use current page
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[jgmac1106] then I could copy a link and reply from the same window
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[keithjgrant] Good idea
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[keithjgrant] I've also considered being able to right-click a link and reply to its url
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jgmac1106 right click to reply..that is a dream
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jgmac1106 though if I could paste in a url as well, be awesome. I so like seeing the form fields in context of what I am replying to, why I like omnibear
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[keithjgrant] Currently, you can right-click to reply to current page, or to reply to a specific h-entry on the page of it has valid microformats. Not sure if everyone realized that or not
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GWG I need help troubleshooting why Omnibear is the only client that doesn't seem to work with my code.
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[keithjgrant] Trouble authenticating or posting? I'd love to see the logs, if you can get them
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[keithjgrant] https://omnibear.com/troubleshooting/
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GWG Somehow it is generating a scope problem. How do you send the token?
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GWG I enabled the logs
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GWG Do you use a header or a property?
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[jgmac1106] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/08/dweb-building-a-resilient-web-with-webtorrent/
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[keithjgrant] @GWG I'd have to dig I to [grantcodes] micropub lib to recall how the token is sent. IIRC, we discovered an issue where Omnibear doesn't specify scope. Technically it's optional according to the spec, but some endpoints (WordPress plugin in particular) throws an error if it's null.
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[grantcodes] It's a header by default
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[keithjgrant] This is one issue I'd love to get fixed for the next version. It's affecting a number of people
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[keithjgrant] I can't remember, is this affecting authentication, or posting?
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[grantcodes] Let me know the technical details of the issue in dev if it needs my attention 🙂
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@scott_gruber Here are some subjects and topics I’m interested in #a11y #artdirection #css #cssgrid #ethicaldesign #inclusivedesign #indieweb #intrinsicdesign #geekmentalhelp #RWD #webartdirection #webdesign (twitter.com/_/status/1030458295809540098)
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[keithjgrant] Will do. Hopefully it's as simple as me just not passing you the scopes
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GWG This is the scope issue
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aaronpk Let’s take the scope issue to -dev
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[tantek] What is Angelfire?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Angelfire" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Angelfire is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] https://mastodon.social/@benwerd/100565830403344520
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@Christo37433424 How I met #IndieWeb I was surfing (not literally but the Internet) and came across this article: http://bit.ly/2vQIwNr. It described a concept of IndieWeb and I got interested. What impressed me the most was that this kind of stuff is still quite rare. How can that be possible? (twitter.com/_/status/1030485468440350720)
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@Christo37433424 What do you want #IndieWeb to be? For me, it stands for the decentralized social media (kind of a #bitcoin in the #socialmedia world). The idea is promising but not really widespread. Once again, why? #question #FridayThoughts #SEO #SEOtips #newtech (twitter.com/_/status/1030486155362541570)
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gRegorLove https://mastodon.social/@benwerd/100555057063226708
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Loqi [Ben Werdmuller] I’m thinking about installing and running my own Mastodon instance. Is there any way of porting my profile here to there, or do I lose all my content, connections, etc? #lazyfedweb
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[tantek] Oh dear the SEO folks have found IndieWeb (that tweet before Ben’s). Also long string of numbers at end of a username is usually a bad sign. Anyone check the account to see if it is legit or bot?
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gRegorLove Brand new account, only a few tweets all with #indieweb. Avatar looks pretty normal / not stock, though.
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@sl007 ↩️ @f2k1de @_nazco_ Die Lösung würde übrigens interessieren, dann könnte ich's diesem wiki stub zufügen https://indieweb.org/Mastodon ;) (twitter.com/_/status/1030516075803369474)
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[eddie] Yeah, I looked at that account it didn’t strike me as obviously a bot
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@HongPong ↩️ let me suggest that you check out the #indieweb concept called #POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE which covers part of your concerns here. others for instance Anonymous decided awhile ago to 'meet the masses where they are' but also find independent ways to publish (twitter.com/_/status/1030524175985909762)
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@ochtendgrijs ↩️ Nu, met een beetje geluk weten de somewhat tech-savvy internauten elkaar binnenkort gewoon op het Indieweb te vinden, los van gesloten (reclame)platformen. (twitter.com/_/status/1030529649829392385)
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@HongPong ↩️ @MaxBlumenthal @caitoz time to learn about POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1030539366962216960)
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@jeckman Taking Back the Web - @adactio keynote during #design4drupal (video, slides) #openweb #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1030545864719327238)
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[kevinmarks] twitter suggests handles with numbers on the end to new accounts
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-17.html
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aaronpk Twitter doesn’t even prompt you to choose a username anymore
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aaronpk it asks for your name then generates a unique username from that, usually with numbers at the end
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eeeeeta o_O
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jalcine a bot's haven
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@jackyalcine ✌ @Reading "http://Indieweb.xyz: Difficult or Silo? " http://ing.am/p/52WM (twitter.com/_/status/1030557522976022528)
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aaronpk Loqi: Loqi or Loqi599
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Loqi I think loqi599
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aaronpk Loqi: are you sure or do you want to reconsider
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Loqi I am sure
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tantek__ lol
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dougbeal Loqi: Robot or Not?
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Loqi I'm pretty sure robot
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[iambismark] relevant? https://www.theincomparable.com/robot/49/
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tantek__ TIL Angelfire is still around! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelfire
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[iambismark] huh i wonder if my old high school cross country team website is up…
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[iambismark] oh… whoops… it now points to a 404 on my domain 😛 http://www.angelfire.com/wi/baraboocc/
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kicks tripod.com is still around to :)
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[iambismark] huh… owned by lycos which appears to still be hosting their own search index? no indication that its just using something like bing underneath…
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tantek indeed that's pretty fascinating
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[iambismark] appears to be one of the oldest around! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_search_engine#History
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gRegorLove Yeah I came across an angelfire.com URL recently that still worked and was quite surprised
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[kevinmarks] do we need a happy alternative to site deaths?
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KartikPrabhu "site" went to a better place" ?
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gRegorLove lol
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[kevinmarks] I meant more like "site surprisingly still up after 15 years" type thing
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KartikPrabhu site birthdays
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-17.html
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@miklb ↩️ I think for folks that haven’t been using their own blogs or aware of what’s going on with Indieweb stuff it finally struck home how entrenched they are. (twitter.com/_/status/1030573414564720641)
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tantek__ [kevinmarks]: perhaps commemorate by year?
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tantek__ year established / launched, and presumably still running roughly the same service, and having preserved any user profiles / permalinks
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tantek__ (rather than domains that just got tossed about and re-used for other purposes)
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tantek__ 1996-sites are websites, both independent and hosting services, that were established in 1996 and are still currently running at least some of their original services (allowing for updates), preferably still supporting the same links to user profiles and any post permalinks if any.
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Loqi ok
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tantek__ what the
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tantek__ 1996-sites << Angelfire
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Angelfire]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /1996-sites https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51080&oldid=51079
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-17.html (twitter.com/_/status/1030578776642482176)
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bradenslen [iambismark] Lycos sources their search from Yahoo https://helpdesk.lycos.com/support/solutions/articles/29000011677-how-do-i-add-my-website-listing-to-lycos-search-results-
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[kevinmarks] This is interesting https://fieldnotes.resistant.tech/federation-is-the-worst-of-all-worlds/
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[iambismark] ah, interesting!
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tantek__ bradenslen: uh but Yahoo sources their search from Bing per their footer "Powered by Bing™"
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