#indieweb 2018-08-22

2018-08-22 UTC
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[chrisaldrich]
[cleverdevil] I noticed in the CultofMac story they quote your Indiepaper homepage which says "save it for later by publishing to your micropub server." Did you mean microsub server, or am I missing something?
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[chrisaldrich]
Also unclear, but I hadn't heard that micro.blog has it's own microsub server yet, so I'm suspecting it's using Aperture instead, and that only saves for 7 days, so folks may want to know that it's not saving things long term. Or is it doing this another way?
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[cleverdevil]
So Indiepaper publishes to a Micropub endpoint. Aperture is a Microsub server, but also has a Micropub endpoint that you can use to publish content into your Microsub channels.
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[cleverdevil]
I request a special “save” scope.
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[cleverdevil]
Micro.blog uses this scope to identify that I’ll be sending content in via Micropub that should be saved for reading later, rather than being published to the users site.
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GWG
Which is an interesting use of a scope
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[cleverdevil]
Indeed 😀
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@t
Event: Homebrew Website Club SF! At: 2018-08-22 17:30 @MozSF RSVP: http://tantek.com/e/4w51
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@kevinmarks
↩️ @11rcombs @eevee The weird idea that silos don't go under is very ahistorical http://indieweb.org/site_deaths
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@tpolecat
me: i have no idea what i'm doing them: just use poofberry me: what is that them: it's like fluffnutz but for hooxup me: ... them: it integrates with logbungler
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tantek__
maybe gen 4
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petermolnar
morning indieweb; I've been thinking about terminology, and I think we're not doing it right: indieweb is not federated, it's distributed.
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petermolnar
... sorry, too early in the morning; not simply _decentralized_, it's distributed, and not federated, like most decentralisation attempts
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tantek__
petermolnar, it has aspects of all three
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tantek__
our re-use of DNS makes that aspect *decentralized* (not distributed)
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petermolnar
that's true
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tantek__
our use of Webmention+microformats for peer to peer responses is *distributed* (again except for the use of DNS)
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petermolnar
that is mostly the aspect I was thinking about, completely forgetting that DNS itself is sort of a requirement
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petermolnar
is anyone running their site from a raw ip address, without a domain?
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tantek__
kevinmarks, did you try to use silo.rip in that tweet and twitter served the redirect instead?
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cweiske
I doubt that, because it would change whenever you switch servers
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tantek__
petermolnar: even IP address routing is decentralized rather than distributed AFAIK
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[kevinmarks]
I didn't think of silo.rip and I was trying to get indieweb there too
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel
good morning
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jeremycherfas
If somebody here recently helped me out, you know who you are, please know that I thank you. No need to respond (unless you want to).
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jeremycherfas
Hi sknebel.
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jeremycherfas
Is there a vHWC today?
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jeremycherfas
I will try.
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Zegnat
How is the daily podcast grind going, jeremycherfas?
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jeremycherfas
Exhausting, still. Some days better than others.
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[kevinmarks]
I am tempted to use those names for my next project though
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@PatrickGerard01
Facebook is pushing that "share a memory" junk where they make custom videos out of your old photos to boost engagement and I just literally got shown a bunch of happy cartoon characters dancing on my mom's grave. 🤦‍♂️ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlIddI0VAAApJ-c.jpg
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[keithjgrant]
Hi Omnibear people! Looking for some feedback on a little reorganization of the UI
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[keithjgrant]
moving post type to the top tabs
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[keithjgrant]
moving reply-to URL below tabs in a dropdown
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[keithjgrant]
I'm adding the Bookmark feature, and I just couldn't find a way to wedge it into the old layout that made sense
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[keithjgrant]
I'm also considering consolidating Replies, Likes, and Reacji into a single "quick actions" tab
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[keithjgrant]
oops. I mean Reposts, Likes, and Reacji
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[keithjgrant]
(basically the one-click actions)
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cweiske
"in a dropdown"?
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cweiske
why should a single URL be in a dropdown?
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[keithjgrant]
there are potentially two urls: the current page, and the currently-highlighted h-entry on the page
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[keithjgrant]
I'm also thinking of adding a 3rd: paste whatever URL you want
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cweiske
I personally use omnibear only to reply/like
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cweiske
but that might be because my MP endpoint doesn't support any other post types
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[keithjgrant]
yeah, I feel like this may be sacrificing some of the simplicity of it, and I'm not a fan of that. But wedging in a "Make this a bookmark" checkbox in the current reply pane seemed cluttered
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[grantcodes]
Well it's only ever one of the 4 types, so maybe radio buttons / toggles
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[keithjgrant]
and keep the current three tabs at the top how they are?
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[grantcodes]
Not sure really just an option.
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[keithjgrant]
I think the hard part is I can't decide whether the URL is the top-level selection, or the post type is.
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[keithjgrant]
typically, the URL is just auto-magically selected for you, but it does need to be selectable somehow
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[keithjgrant]
(and it's irrelevant when composing a new note)
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[grantcodes]
Could it not just be a filled text box in that case? Then maybe add a little warning when a user changes the url?
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@jgmac1106
Built my following page using @chrisaldrich’s IndieWeb tutorial. https://boffosocko.com/2017/11/10/a-following-page/ Now to add in all my feeds, then add the, to Aperture so they show up in my reader. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6215-2/)
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[keithjgrant]
hmm. possibly
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[keithjgrant]
maybe some tiny icons to populate it with "current page" or "selected entry"
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[grantcodes]
I think a little "type" selector would work, then if it's a like or repost you hide all the editor fields, if it's a reply or bookmark you show them and with a bookmark you auto fill them
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[jgmac1106]
yeah i think if space is an issue in the tabs use the common icons for each post type with an id on hover for accessibility purposes
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@megarush1024
Checking out TWBlue. It doesn’t appear to support reading over 140 chars of tweet. Not so great for client but since I have to open tweets in browser to read, great reminder to interact from my own site and syndicate to Twitter. Thanks for unintentionally promoting #indieweb guys
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skippy
ahoy hoy
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@megarush1024
↩️ Yeah but by the time I view the tweet, I may as well just grab the URL from the browser and respond from my own site. Thus, unintentional promotion of indieweb.
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@jgmac1106
I was just thinking what would be an #IndieWeb version of WordPress FlipGrid….and of course @cogdog has already built something no personal info..hosted on my domain. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6218-2/)
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sknebel
70 minutes until vHWC
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-08-22 5:30pm CEST (#6359)
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@miklb
So part way through my testing of the State of WordPress in IndieWeb and it really is so far less “broken” than I think a lot of us believed in regards to using the core 2016 theme. Still more testing to do.
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Loqi
vHWC
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Loqi
Countdown set by sknebel on 2018-08-22 at 4:20pm CEST
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jackjamieson
Good morning IndieWeb!
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@miklb
↩️ But as it stands, with only two minor edits to the mf2 plugin & suite of Indieweb WP plugins I already had installed, I’m using default twentysixteen WordPress theme. I’m syndicating to http://micro.blog, Twitter (via http://brid.gy) and… https://miklb.com/blog/2018/08/22/4190/
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Zegnat
Tinder is launching yet another Tinder derivative: Tinder U. For college/uni. I need to get on this IndieDating thing.
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tantek__
I thought Tinder *started* on college/uni
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Zegnat
What is Tinder?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Tinder" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Tinder is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat
Never mind then :P
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tantek__
Zegnat I have not made any progress on indiedating since my blog post on the topic
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Zegnat
I haven’t made any progress since adding Tinder like interaction to my homepage
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tantek__
wait what. people can swipe left/right on your homepage?!?
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[grantcodes]
Zegnat: Ha nice, although I feel your choices might be a bit limited on the indieweb right now 😛
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Zegnat
Limited? We have more than 150 people in here! :P Some of them are bound to be single. Hahahahaha
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Loqi
awesome
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[cleverdevil]
"The goods are odd, but the odds are good." – Indie Dating
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gRegorLove
I thought recently I should back up my OKCupid profile on my site somewhere.
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tantek__
gRegorLove: I'd like to export questions and answers at least
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tantek__
what is OKCupid
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Loqi
OkCupid is a dating social network https://indieweb.org/OkCupid
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tantek__
definitely add to that if you figure out ways of backing/exporting your profile!
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tantek__
huh I just saw an indicator in IG saying "✅ / You're All Caught Up / You've seen all new posts from the past 3 days."
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Zegnat
All the OkCupid Q&A data is available through GDPR request: https://cubicgarden.com/2018/06/24/gdpr-dating-information-update/
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Zegnat
As a JSON file
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tantek__
zegnat, sure, has anyone checked it?
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tantek__
some of it could be useless, like question #256, choice: C
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[kevinmarks]
Tinder was bootstrapped through Whitney Wolfe going to campuses and signing up all the sororities and frats, yes
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Zegnat
The actual example of the data is quoted in the article I linked there, tantek__
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Zegnat
Ian send the same (thorough) email to all dating platforms he is/was on. I think he has only blogged about the responses from PlentyOfFish and OKCupid.
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Zegnat
That GDPR update I linked is a blog post where he goes through the data received from those two platforms. Question and answers are complete sets. No weird unknowable references.
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tantek__
interesting. do you have to email request an export or I'm wondering if there is a simple UI option (like on FB)
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tantek__
OkCupid << 2018-06-24 [https://cubicgarden.com/2018/06/24/gdpr-dating-information-update/ GDPR dating information update] <blockquote>Going to need some time to digest everything but the OKCupid data dump is full of interesting things.</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "2018-06-24 [https://cubicgarden.com/2018/06/24/gdpr-dating-information-update/ GDPR dating information update] <blockquote>Going to need some time to digest everything but the OKCupid data dump is full of interesting things.</blockquote>" to a new "See Also" section of /OkCupid https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51279&oldid=43457
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Zegnat
tantek__, I believe you need to contact their privacy contact. Not sure they would even reply with the info to non-EU citizens. Maybe worth a try?
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[cleverdevil]
My current favorite use case for Indiepaper is bypassing "click to read more" nonsense in feeds – https://cleverdevil.io/s/AnipQrop8b.mp4
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tantek__
Zegnat or I wait til I'm in Germany and make the request then
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[grantcodes]
Nice [cleverdevil] that's awesome!
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[grantcodes]
cleverdevil++
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Loqi
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Zegnat
tantek__++ for geohacking ;)
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Loqi
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[grantcodes]
I'd still like to include a button in together that does that at some point
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@schmarty
#Deactiday, losing your followers, and lots of events! It's your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for August 11th - 17th, 2018. https://martymcgui.re/2018/08/22/160712/
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[kiai]
what is squarespace
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Loqi
Squarespace is a content hosting service (paid) that provides services such as blogging and domain hosting https://indieweb.org/Squarespace
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[kiai]
People were talking about dating sites this morning. Would anyone like a copy of my book for free? Need to get rid of them. They're 9 years old, but still relevant.
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[kiai]
It's about dating. More specifically, how to use leadership skills in dating like the wild dogs of Africa.
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tantek__
!tell Zegnat perhaps we should organize some "request all my data" sessions at IWC NUR & BER to walk people through requesting their data from various silos
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek__
[kiai]: coming to HWC SF tonight?
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[kiai]
Hey Tantek. Hope so.
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[kiai]
Made another website. 🙂
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[kiai]
My boyfriend likes to hold me hostage especially after coming home from a trip, like today.
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tantek__
kiai I only posted on the wiki and an indie event for tonight's HWC SF: http://tantek.com/2018/234/e1/homebrew-website-club-sf
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