#indieweb 2018-08-24

2018-08-24 UTC
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Loqi
Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-24.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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jeremycherfas
!tell snarfed Not a deliberate choice, but at some point I gave up tinkering.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Ruxton
http://microformats.org/ is being unresponsive, i assume someone here is repsonsible for that?
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Zegnat
Ruxton: the server has memory problems and nobody really knows why
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Ruxton
thanks :)
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Ruxton
who looks after the one with issues? happy to offer my skills to help resolve it.
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Zegnat
I know aaronpk has server access, but I seem to recall he doesn't have all the passwords. Best ask in #microformats at a US friendly time :)
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@kevinmarks
↩️ Indieweb doesn't require you to learn html unless you're a tool builder, but it encourages thoughtful use of html so that sites can be interconnected. Both mastodon and http://micro.blog generate great indieweb friendly html without users having to learn it.
(twitter.com/_/status/1032889859394994176)
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat
Good morning jeremycherfas :)
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jeremycherfas
Mornign zegnat
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@mspowahs
Fine, I'll spell it out: MySpace, LiveJournal, and NeoPets were able to teach kids—all kids, yes, but, and this is very important, largely girls—how to code because the coding education happened incidentally, outside the pipelines where people are told what they can and can't do.
(twitter.com/_/status/1032738596992606209)
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petermolnar
that's an interesting point, and I tend to agree; nothing taught CSS & HTML better, than creating unique profiles, even if they ended up being purple-text-on-dark-blue
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Zegnat
I have definitely seen people learning CSS & HTML on Tumblr. Though slightly less so as Tumblr has been hiding away the code as much as possible
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sknebel
yeah, bunch of places like that
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sknebel
I remember a Harry Potter fanclub here in Germany had HTML as one of the "magic skills" one could learn (and change their profile with I think, not sure)
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[kevinmarks]
Blogger too. MySpace it was more that they forgot to filter it properly I think
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petermolnar
one doesn't simply filter CSS ;)
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sknebel
reddit does some filtering for subreddit styles, to stop people loading external content and stuff
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Zegnat
I learned a lot of that remoxing back on MSN Groups.
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Zegnat
s/remoxing/remixing/
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@jgmac1106
↩️ I don’t see learning html as antithetical to #IndieWeb but more or a an important side effect. Think back to MySpace if I didn’t know HTML, fine, I can still play, as O played and wanted to do cool stuff I could muck up my page all I wanted. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6246-2/)
(twitter.com/_/status/1032940941651456002)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ I also teach using WordPress and get folks on to #IndieWeb who couldn’t recognize a  link an HTML. Few  never dive deep but many want to peek under the hood and they pick up some HTML. That is a good thing. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6248-2/)
(twitter.com/_/status/1032942623521161216)
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@petermolnar
↩️ Right now, maybe, but only maybe. Future goal is not to, and for that, there are many things being worked on, eg. tools for WordPress ( https://indieweb.org/WordPress ) or ideas like BlogMesh ( https://blogmesh.org/ ).
(twitter.com/_/status/1032943114372169728)
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petermolnar
had instagram just locked down the https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/[hashtag] pages from not logged in web users?
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petermolnar
I'm pretty certain it worked a few days ago...
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petermolnar
hm, it seems to be only a few tags
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Zegnat
petermolnar, it wouldn’t surprise anyone if they did. snarfed has switch Bridgy logic over into a logged in user as well to keep the ability to access stuff
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Loqi
snarfed: jeremycherfas left you a message 17 hours, 37 minutes ago: Not a deliberate choice, but at some point I gave up tinkering.
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Loqi
snarfed: jeremycherfas left you a message 9 hours, 7 minutes ago: Not a deliberate choice, but at some point I gave up tinkering.
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Loqi
[snarfed] #840 instagram scraping for likes broke
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Zegnat
imagines snarfed having keyboard macros that automatically give him links to specific issues
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snarfed
twitter will ban me any day now
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jeremycherfas
You'll be in very good company.
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Zegnat
talking of silos and blocks, did you hear any more complaints about Facebook blocking your podcast, jeremycherfas?
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jeremycherfas
No more complaints, no, and no explanation either
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Zegnat
Explanation: silos gonna silo
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petermolnar
talking about blocks, is tantek's @t still blocked?
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jeremycherfas
I mean, yeah to zegnat, not yeah to petermolnar
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Zegnat
I think he got in again, but still had several side accounts he has for W3 stuff and standard locked
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newcode
/leave
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[kevinmarks]
pixel-art << Jenn Schiffer's pixel art site https://make8bitart.com/
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Loqi
ok, I added "Jenn Schiffer's pixel art site https://make8bitart.com/" to a new "See Also" section of /pixel-art https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51316&oldid=51315
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Loqi
Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-24.html
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Loqi
Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-08-24.html
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tantek__
yes I am slowly getting my accounts unlocked
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tantek__
Zegnat petermolnar jeremycherfas
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