#indieweb 2018-08-25

2018-08-25 UTC
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Loqi That looks like spam, bye!
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Loqi That looks like spam, bye!
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tantek__ does Loqi need to tell us "That looks like spam, bye!" ? Is that an alert so a human can double-check?
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aaronpk whoops no, that is a leftover from some of Loqi's early spam detection from before this flood
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[kevinmarks] Some fediverse history https://thomask.sdf.org/blog/2018/08/19/from-gnu-social-to-mastodon.html
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tantek__ [kevinmarks]: whoa from that link: "quitter.se shut down recently after being overloaded by the influx of federated Mastodon users"
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tantek__ what is quitter.se?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "quitter.se" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "quitter.se is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__ what is quitter
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Loqi Quitter is a public instance of GNU social with a Twitter-like skin https://indieweb.org/Quitter
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tantek__ was?
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tantek__ nonetheless, plenty in those posts to extract and note specific dates with citations in /timeline
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tantek__ since there's a lot of overlap with a lot of indieweb development
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tantek__ timeline << process this for GNU Social and Mastodon events, software, sites related to federation etc. https://thomask.sdf.org/blog/2018/08/19/from-gnu-social-to-mastodon.html
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Loqi ok, I added "process this for GNU Social and Mastodon events, software, sites related to federation etc. https://thomask.sdf.org/blog/2018/08/19/from-gnu-social-to-mastodon.html" to the "See Also" section of /timeline https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51321&oldid=51105
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tantek__ timeline << process this for StatusNet, GNU Social, Quitter events, software, sites related to federation etc. https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/blog/2017/04/01/a-brief-history-of-the-gnu-social-fediverse-and-the-federation/
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Loqi ok, I added "process this for StatusNet, GNU Social, Quitter events, software, sites related to federation etc. https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/blog/2017/04/01/a-brief-history-of-the-gnu-social-fediverse-and-the-federation/" to the "See Also" section of /timeline https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=51322&oldid=51321
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tantek__ !tell aaronpk I thought I remember hearing/seeing (a demo?) that Quill supported offline writing/editing of new posts but I can't seem to find any description of that feature on /Quill - no mention of "offline" at all - can you check / add something?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@kosmar I just registered for IndieWebCamp Berlin 2018 https://ti.to/tollwerk/indiewebcamp-berlin-2018 (twitter.com/_/status/1033237888719364096)
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[kevinmarks] Also quitter.no is shutting down too
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Hello zegnat
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sknebel good morning!
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Zegnat mathowie recently shared all the feeds he is following, I guess that’s a type of follow post? Or maybe a blogroll? https://a.wholelottanothing.org/2018/08/24/getting-back-to-rss/
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jeremycherfas !tell zegnat I've never quite seen the point of sharing EVERYTHING I follow, but a selection of the most valuable to me, maybe. The joy of feeds is hat it costs nothing to leave them in the reader if they're dormant, because when they do come to life, there they are.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jackyalcine ✌ @Reading "ActivityPub - IndieWeb" http://ing.am/p/53df (twitter.com/_/status/1033371523145506817)
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Davesdowntime :meeps to all
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@kevinmarks An article advocating #Indieweb principles from an unexpected source https://newsocialist.org.uk/do-we-really-need-a-statebook/ (twitter.com/_/status/1033411864858972163)
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@kickscondor You may now post anonymous comments via http://commentpara.de. For example, the link at the bottom of http://kickscondor.com/2018/08/23/weird-indieweb-idea-of-the-day-guestbooks. (twitter.com/_/status/1033420906931146752)
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vilhalmer god twitter is such a pain
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vilhalmer t.co links serve a javascript redirect to browsers unless you pass a bogus user-agent, at which point it will fall back to 301
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[kevinmarks] Also, www.t.co doesn't resolve, which chrome tries when it gets a timeout at t.co
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miklb hmm this doesn't look right https://miklb.com/blog/2018/08/25/4231/
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Loqi [Michael Bishop] In reply to August 25th, 2018, 8:37pm. Welcome to FL.
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miklb but I'm not sure why
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KartikPrabhu miklb: seems like you used the alt-text instead of the u-photo
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miklb ah, OK. I'll back track to where that is happening in the plugin ecosystem over in WP
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miklb thanks
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KartikPrabhu :thumsup:
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@crazypedia ↩️ these: https://kaniini.dereferenced.org/ https://github.com/kaniini Also controls: https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini This proves it's the same person and the UI can reward them with a checkmark. IndieWeb has the basis of a good solution for this since 2008, (2/6) (twitter.com/_/status/1033499538827300864)
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tantek__ nice
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KartikPrabhu https://twitter.com/crazypedia/status/1033499542648381441 sounds complicated
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@crazypedia seeing if the graph is complete. If it is, then you get the checkmark. If it's not, then you don't. This, incidentally, is similar in nature to the the concept behind my ActivityPub alsoKnownAs proposal, but there it is just checking AP objects for completeness (5/6) (twitter.com/_/status/1033499542648381441)
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aaronpk https://toot.cafe/@sivy/100613485927009141 😂
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek__ left you a message 21 hours, 56 minutes ago: I thought I remember hearing/seeing (a demo?) that Quill supported offline writing/editing of new posts but I can't seem to find any description of that feature on /Quill - no mention of "offline" at all - can you check / add something?
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Loqi [Steve "so many ☕️"] @kaniini I care about this so much I’m replying while waiting for my cruise ship to embark.Rel=me is the real open solution and it works folks
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tantek___ nice
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tantek___ hey is Loqi on Mastodon? can we get Loqi to "boost" toots? :)
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aaronpk tantek__: Quill's rich text editor used to be a full PWA but that was using the "old" style of doing that, I forget the name, and I ended up ripping out all that code.
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tantek___ !rt https://toot.cafe/@sivy/100613485927009141
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Loqi [Steve "so many ☕️"] @kaniini I care about this so much I’m replying while waiting for my cruise ship to embark.Rel=me is the real open solution and it works folks
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tantek___ :)
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aaronpk it still saves drafts to localstorage so you can kind of half edit offline
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tantek___ aaronpk maybe worth documenting how much offline support there is sort of?
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tantek___ KartikPrabhu: it's not complicated, only sounds like it from phrases like "graph is complete" :)
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KartikPrabhu graph completeness is complicated afaik
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tantek___ graph completeness is sufficient but not necessary for XFN rel=me identity consolidation
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tantek___ sorry I should have taken that to #indieweb-dev
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KartikPrabhu yes. which was my point. "check graph completeness" is unncessarily complicated for this use
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tantek___ Kevinmarks we know Irina from that article about " Do we really need a StateBook? "
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