#indieweb 2018-09-25

2018-09-25 UTC
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@xtof_party ↩️ Merci https://indieweb.me/@xtof/100783620405881504 Je t'embrasse. P.S. (focus sur ta prise de poste. tu as mon numéro. Chez moi rien ne presse. #calmdesign - sensible. l'idée est d'accueillir mes enfants. Je crois beaucoup aux ateliers d'écriture "déconnectés" avec méditation.) (twitter.com/_/status/1044387858537213952)
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@jgmac1106 IndieWebCamp NYC 2018 will be held 2018-09-28 and 2018-09-29 at Pace University in Manhattan, New York City. The importance of owning your data is getting more (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7353-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044391547624665088)
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@t going to @IndieWebCamp New York City 2018-09-28…29! Complimentary tickets sold out but organizers were able to release another small batch. Grab one before they’re gone: https://ti.to/indieweb/indiewebcamp-nyc More info: https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC http://tantek.com/t4wd2 (twitter.com/_/status/1044392941928808449)
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@FormationXtof ↩️ Aymeric... Quelques pistes de petits cadeaux pour inviter vos enfants et amis à écrire avant de se lâcher sur http://indieweb.me > http://ducamp.me/Fournitures (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1044393589415981056)
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@jgmac1106 #IndieWeb defined in four words (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7357-2/) https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/1044392650118287360 (twitter.com/_/status/1044393638556573698)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I suspect you could re-purpose the open source code for https://news.indieweb.org/ or https://indieweb.xyz/en to create something like what you're thinking about. (twitter.com/_/status/1044406916078686210)
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@ruxton @songkick would be awesome if you guys were doing things like hevent microformat and indieweb RSVP web mentions. (twitter.com/_/status/1044425722058526720)
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Ruxton hugs Loqi
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Loqi hugs Ruxton
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@FormationXtof Coup dur pour #facebook via @jusdepatate@crazynoisybizarre.town à fact-checker par @aymeric_ducamp@indieweb.me https://www.lesechos.fr/tech-medias/hightech/0302304276286-facebook-les-fondateurs-et-dirigeants-dinstagram-demissionnent-2208068.php (twitter.com/_/status/1044466402554302464)
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tantek__ wow: https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/24/instagram-founders-leave/
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[kevinmarks] Does that count as a silo quit?
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[kevinmarks] If you get gdpr;dr at that link you can read it at http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=https%3A%2F%2Ftechcrunch.com%2Ffeed
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[kevinmarks] Maybe they can rebuild burbn, but indieweb this time
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[kevinmarks] https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-lowtech-website/
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Zegnat Wow. Spam came through :o
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Zegnat PSA: if you are big on in-browser bookmarks and use Firefox, you may want to make an export as bookmark descriptions may get removed by a browser updated slated for December. https://www.metafilter.com/176720/im-in-ur-bookmarks-deleting-ur-data
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Zegnat 2 months until Is Firefox still purging bookmark descriptions? Time for a back-up! https://www.metafilter.com/176720/im-in-ur-bookmarks-deleting-ur-data
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-11-24 9:22am CET (#6376)
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@jgmac1106 Great post from @jalcine@playvicious.social on how the #IndieWeb can bring blogging back in the decade. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7363-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044525205811601409)
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@vincentlistens I *really* want to attend this #Indieweb meetup in Oxford, but I have a GDS Assessment the same day, argh! https://indieweb.org/2018/Oxford (twitter.com/_/status/1044535037046280192)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Good luck on the exam! You can always remote into #Indiewebcamp NYC this weekend if you missed Oxford. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7365-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044546297947201537)
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[kevinmarks] this is interesting: https://public.digital/2018/09/25/making-government-as-a-platform-real/
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] Mornign Jeremy
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jeremycherfas Howdy. Wish I could be in NYC. But Nurnberg is less than a month away.
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[jgmac1106] stop by the remote feed for a bit and say hi to everyone, I will do same in Nurnber
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@garrettc The weather tried to defeat us at day 2 of #indiewebcamp Oxford, but we are made of sterner stuff… mainly coffee. https://polytechnic.co.uk/blog/2018/09/indiewebcamp-oxford-day-2 (twitter.com/_/status/1044569595456245760)
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skippy good morning.
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Loqi guten morgen
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@jgmac1106 Working  hard to drop terminology “scratch your own itch” from my #IndieWeb vocabulary. Doesn’t seem to fit D&I goals. Not due to etymology or history.  More personal experience. Seems to be a phrase that doesn’t resonate with women. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7385-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044583815929184256)
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@kayaelle .@indiewebcamp is going on this Fri & Sat : https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC Join @iamjessklein, @jgmac1106 and many other engineers, hackers, activists, teachers, students, and journalists as they work on web projects related "owning your own data". Can remote in too! (twitter.com/_/status/1044595411116273664)
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@_ariaru Free event in Berlin, Nov 3-4: https://indieweb.org/2018/Berlin (twitter.com/_/status/1044601250027884544)
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@FormationXtof toujours sur http://ducamp.me ... les onglets 1. La Ferme IndieWeb 2. Les coulisses avec dos d'âne "wawa" (va pisser ailleurs) 3. Meta (twitter.com/_/status/1044613559055831041)
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kaushalmodi Hello, I am using commentpara.de on my blog to post comments, which in turn uses Quill
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kaushalmodi Missing session state Something went wrong, please try signing in again, and make sure cookies are enabled for this domain.
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kaushalmodi Today I am seeing this error when trying to post a comment:
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kaushalmodi Error: Missing session state Something went wrong, please try signing in again, and make sure cookies are enabled for this domain.
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kaushalmodi odd.. now I cannot reproduce that error
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kaushalmodi Any idea if that error was thrown by Quill or commentpara.de?
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kaushalmodi I just closed the commentpara.de tab, tried commenting 2 more times, and it worked the third time.
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@IndieWebCampDE Wir freuen uns ganz außerordentlich, dass wir trotz extremer Kurzfristigkeit unsererseits zum 3. Mal in Folge @openSUSE als Sponsor für unser @indiewebcamp Nürnberg am 20. und 21. Oktober gewinnen konnten! 1000 Dank für den anhaltenden Support! ❤https://indieweb.org/2018/Nuremberg#Sponsors (twitter.com/_/status/1044623420464467971)
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@jkphl Overly pleased to announce that @openSUSE is sponsoring our @indiewebcamp Nürnberg 2018 from October 20-21 for the 3rd year in a row (this time on extremely short notice). Thank you so much! The community and I very much appreciate your lasting support! ❤ https://indieweb.org/2018/Nuremberg#Sponsors (twitter.com/_/status/1044624837774376962)
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[chrisaldrich] Nothing too new here, but John Oliver has a brutal takedown of Facebook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjPYmEZxACM
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[chrisaldrich] Content warning that there is some rough language and sexual references in that video...
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dougbeal [chrisaldrich]: How was WordCamp LA? What was the most interesting/useful talk? Thinking of WordCamp Seattle
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GWG I have not been inspired by a Wordcamp, but maybe I am attending the wrong ones
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aaronpk I haven't been to one since 2009! I wonder what they are like now
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GWG I find the WordPress community is too tilted toward business and personal stuff goes by the wayside.
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tantek__ good morning #indieweb
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slvr 200
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@jackyalcine ↩️ What do you mean? For each service, there's a bit of demo implementation. For the #IndieWeb, if you want IndieAuth, https://indielogin.com exists. For WebMentions? There's https://webmention.io. Unless you mean like reference code to roll your own system/service. (twitter.com/_/status/1044637386976649216)
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@EddieHinkle ↩️ Awesome! Webmentions was what originally attracted me to the IndieWeb. you are right, they don’t require microformats. For them to be their best (communicate post intent: like, reply, rsvp, mention) you need some type of data sitting on the src url (https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/09/25/24/reply/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044641518546550786)
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tantek__ jacky++
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Loqi jacky has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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Loqi eddie has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (65 in all channels)
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tantek__ eddie++
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tantek__ ^^^ also, good examples of tweets tending to be more dev-like :) cc: aaronpk
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@tmcw ↩️ there's discussion in the thread, but the gist is that stuff like h-card is a decade-old spec without a single fully-formed consumer. mostly the same with h-entry. but instead of de-emphasizing these specs, they're at the top of the 'adopt indieweb' bits https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started (twitter.com/_/status/1044642323491999744)
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jacky I don't think I follow re: adoption in browsers that he's referring to
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aaronpk oh is *that* what he's talking about?
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aaronpk browsers are definitely not the only consuming use case, but if that is your metric, then yeah i can see his point
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tantek__ that's out of context
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tantek__ see the previous reply / thread where the notion of downloading hCards to vCards was discussed - that's a use-case that you (can) use the browser for
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tantek__ or you can just use h2vx.com
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tantek__ clearly that indicates a need to better document the use-cases for each
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Ahhhh okay okay. Yeah, it's like the whole <meta> usage. It's passively consumed by silos (like Twitter) but on the realm of the IndieWeb, every one realizes on them! There's a few IndieWeb services that need them to provide you with more information about what you've posted. (twitter.com/_/status/1044645629081804800)
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Zegnat wonders if it is time for the old Operator web extension to be revived
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@FormationXtof Focus pour imaginer l'usage du #TIretPlus en navigation, la méthode de https://patrickrhone.com Acheté tous ses bouquins. Serai ravi de les prêter à la famille http://indieweb.me (twitter.com/_/status/1044646355128344577)
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Zegnat What is Operator?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Operator" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Operator is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__ Operator is http://microformats.org/wiki/operator
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Loqi ok
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Loqi Operator Firefox plugin
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@scatmandan Once you're doing with adding #indieweb awesome to your website, @henrahmagix, you might like to add an RSS feed so people like me can subscribe! In the meantime, I made you a temporary one at http://rssey.danq.me/henryblyth powered by my RSSey tool (like this: ... (twitter.com/_/status/1044651015545520128)
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@FormationXtof Belle soirée à tous : restez méfiants. Acheté un T-shirt à Montmartre pour le bricoler : > Halte aux pixels, retour aux pavés Dans le contexte de notre ferme indieweb, j'aimerais remplacer "pavés" par #BuildingBlocks https://indieweb.org/Category:building-blocks (twitter.com/_/status/1044652688892284928)
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@tmcw ↩️ i mean, https://indieweb.org/h-card mentions exactly one consumer, which is telegraph, which you wrote and which is the one you're typing that reply from, right? http://microformats.org page lists 4 implementations http://microformats.org/wiki/h-card#Implementations - of which 1 is dead and 1 only produces. (twitter.com/_/status/1044653162710200321)
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aaronpk aha there's the problem
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aaronpk looks like we need to update the wiki pages, since there are clearly more consumers than just the 1 listed there
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sknebel tricky for so low-level pieces, maybe that section makes less sense there and instead point to use cases/protocols relevant to it? e.g. h-card -> authorship -> readers, ...?
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sknebel -> meta
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jacky how do I add something to a page using Loki?
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jacky like >>?
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gRegorLove <<
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jacky resume << http://microformats.org/wiki/resume
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Loqi ok, I added "http://microformats.org/wiki/resume" to the "See Also" section of /resum%C3%A9 https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52014&oldid=46013
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Loqi hResume
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jacky :epic_winning_baby_meme:
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jacky thanks gRegorLove
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jacky gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (104 in all channels)
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gRegorLove haha, that emoji name
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jacky lol once I get reacji going, I'm 100% adding that
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[chrisaldrich] sorry [dougbeal] I got stuck on some calls... WordCamp LA was fun. I only got to do Saturday. There were some interesting looking talks, but a lot of marketing/biz related stuff I wasn't interested in.
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[chrisaldrich] I ended up spending most of my time in the "hallway track" where I tend to find a lot more interesting work/conversation taking place.
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jacky friend just intro-d me to https://gitlab.com/staltz/manyverse/wikis/roadmap
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jacky https://www.manyver.se/
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aaronpk did they rename scuttlebutt?
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dansup aaronpk: Nope, manyverse is just built upon ssb
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jacky nah but it uses it
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jacky yeah
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aaronpk oh, i thought there was already something that does that that was built on scuttlebutt
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dansup patchwork? https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork
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Loqi [ssbc] patchwork: A decentralized messaging and sharing app built on top of Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB).
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[schmarty] I don’t think there have been any mobile apps that work on ssb yet. One for android has been in development for a while (called something like mmmmm?)
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[schmarty] Patchwork and similar are desktop clients from what I recall
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Loqi That looks like spam, bye!
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Loqi That looks like spam, bye!
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camb[m] What interactive reader would you guys recommend for a beginner?
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camb[m] A few example feed links would be great too.
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camb[m] Indieauth screenshot before I get the error on alltogethernow.io
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camb[m] https://www.screencast.com/t/Tq3NAMlxDY
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aaronpk it looks like you're missing the microsub endpoint which readers need in order for you to sign in
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aaronpk crosses his fingers that it works
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@anaulin I just found out that "IndieWeb" is an actual movement/community around running your own homepage (and more), and I'm feeling simultaneously very old and ahead of the curve. (cf. https://indieweb.org/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044725896580599808)
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aaronpk 🎉
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@jgmac1106 We like to say well-aged, or fine tuned with experience…actually we don’t really care what you say as long as you say it from your own domain. Feel free to stop by the remote feeds from #IndieWebCamp NYC this weekend. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7396-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1044726913296748544)
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[kevinmarks] Interesting use of "silo" https://twitter.com/salesforce/status/1044727748583985152?s=19
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@salesforce "Customers are in silos and data from parts of a company aren't always shared. Salesforce Customer 360 introduces one single view of the customer backed by the power of Einstein." Salesforce Co-Founder and CTO @ParkerHarris has a "surprise" for #DF18: https://sforce.co/2N0dDvL https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Dn-eSSiXoAESOn3.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1044727748583985152)
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tantek__ [kevinmarks]: ah yes the "behind the firewall" use of "silo" where it refers to (often vertical) orgs within a company siloing off their data (about customers etc.) away from other orgs inside the company
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[kevinmarks] *cough* Apple *cough*
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tantek__ [kevinmarks]: 😂😂😂
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