#indieweb 2018-09-29

2018-09-29 UTC
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GWG
I am enjoying this assertion brainstorming. Wondering about how to make it work.
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Zegnat
GWG: “assertion brainstorming”?
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb! :D
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[Rose]
Good afternoon Zegnat 🙂
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GWG
Zegnat.
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GWG
What is assertion?
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Loqi
An assertion is a relationship where one individual/organization makes a statement, asserts, or endorses that another’s statement is accurate in their opinion https://indieweb.org/assertion
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GWG
Hello, [Rose]
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sknebel
good morning
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Zegnat
I should not have asked before catching up on all the other logs, GWG, sorry :D
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GWG
I am not usually the one figuring out Microformats
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GWG
I am usually asking someone else to explain them to me
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Zegnat
Just finished reading the microformats chatlogs. Interesting stuff. I have no real use-case for this so I have not a whole lot to add.
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Zegnat
Marking your blog post for later reading though.
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GWG
I like the academic implications, but I am not in academia
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GWG
Any thoughts on the markup though?
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Zegnat
I will probably have thoughts later. I do like the idea of reusing reviews.
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jeremycherfas
I'm still not seeing anything in #indieweb-microformats in IRC
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Zegnat
It should just be #microformats, jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas
OK. I joined, I left.
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[shurcool]
I’m on my way to IWC NYC day 2, will be there closer to 9:30 am
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[dougbeal]
Is there going to be a hang out for the preliminaries
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@DawnHFoster
FFS, the Tory conference app allows you to login as other people and view their contact details just with their email address, no emailed security links, and post comments as them.
(twitter.com/_/status/1046019564033765376)
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aaronpk
lol security
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dougbeal|mb1
Denied entry to building?
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aaronpk
are you watching yesterday's stream?
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dougbeal|mb1
Or were you not implying there was a new stream?
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aaronpk
we haven't turned on any stream yet today
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@DawnHFoster
It's let me login as Boris Johnson, and just straight up given me all the details used for his registration https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoQ4PHVW0AAiQ2B.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1046022868251873280)
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aaronpk
[kevinmarks]: this doesn't sound like indieweb really?
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[scottgruber]
Morning. How’s #IndieWebCamp NYC going? Any chance to login remotely? Is there a google hangout or talky being used? I setup a talky channel here https://talky.io/indiewebcampnyc and an etherpad for the event here https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2018-NYC
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[scottgruber]
Its my first time to use talky. [aaronpk] Is there a saved stream url from yesterday? I’m interested to check out the keynotes.
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[scottgruber]
But no hurry as I know you’ve got a day scheduled already right now.
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Zegnat
[scottgruber], the IWC channel has yesterday’s streams: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCco4TTt7ikz9xnB35HrD5gQ
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Zegnat
I am not sure if it is active yet, or if people are in there right now, but the chat topic includes this link to conference room: https://bluejeans.com/808107735/
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dougbeal
no streams are turned on yet
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[shurcool]
My ETA is now closer to 9:50; I caught a local train rather than express.
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aaronpk
we've all pretty much started hack day projects
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aaronpk
there are three different conversations happening in the same room, none of that will really make sense on a stream :)
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dougbeal|mb1
Any calls for participants?
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[scottgruber]
OK. I’m working on my project here in LA. Please say Hi to everyone.
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[schmarty]
[dougbeal]: we were informally waiting for tantek before announcing projects. i don't know that we were planning to stream the intros.
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[scottgruber]
Thanks. How many people are there in person? Anyone else participating remotely? Sorry I missed yesterday, but had to do the day job.
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dougbeal
scottgruber: probably 5-10 remote, based on yesterday? (including me)
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dougbeal|mb1
schmarty: thanks
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Zegnat
I am remote for about 1.5 hours more. Then have to leave. But I am going to hurry back for demos. Depending whether I can get something finished in these next 1.5 hours I may or may not demo something myself (if chance given)
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[schmarty]
the venue closes a bit early, so we will probably do demos at 2pm ET
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Zegnat
Oh. I am not going to make that. I was going by the schedule which has demos at 14:30, [schmarty]
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[schmarty]
oh, that's 2:30pm. maybe that will happen.
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[schmarty]
my mistake
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[jgmac1106]
who is cleverdevil?
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Zegnat
Giving me some serious FOMO here, [schmarty] ;)
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[scottgruber]
Greeting all and fellow remoters.
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[scottgruber]
fGreetings
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[schmarty]
haha, sorry zegnat! we can set a stream up for you. it will be a lot of crosstalk and side conversations. :}
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Zegnat
It is fine. I am busy today, I am just counting on making it to the demos at the end.
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GWG
Zegnat: What are you working on today?
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Zegnat
Webmention sending.
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Zegnat
More specifically: have a queue on the server of mentions that need to be sent in the background, asynchronously.
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Zegnat
Hoped to get it to interface with Mastodon as well. But we'll see about that.
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[kevinmarks]
Mention.tech will do that for you
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[kevinmarks]
Post to it, it handles the discovery and sending.
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[schmarty]
IWC NYC hack day update! we are definitely not doing an intro session today. a construction crew is using a saw blade that is as tall as i am to cut up the street outside the window where we were working. so we have scattered around the building.
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Zegnat
[kevinmarks], I’d still want the posting to mention.tech to happen out of bound
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Zegnat
People can also use telegraph to do it, which will even fallback to pingbacks for maximal compatibility!
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[chrisaldrich]
Good morning indieweb. I'm remote from Los Angeles, but in and out due to family obligations.
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Zegnat
Woops, gotta run, hopefully back for demos. Have a good IWC all!
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[schmarty]
wow i somehow missed this post about webrings (and 🕸.ws !)
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://ramblinggit.com/2018/08/coroners-report-webrings-are-dead-part-ii/" to the "See Also" section of /webring https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52235&oldid=50900
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://ramblinggit.com/2018/08/coroners-report-webrings-are-dead-part-ii/" to the "See Also" section of /indiewebring https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52236&oldid=51522
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Loqi
nice
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jess1
hi
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jess1
hi
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tantek__
hello KartikPrabhu! missing you at IWC NYC!
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aaronpk
waves at jess1
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KartikPrabhu
tantek__: hi! yeah couldn't make it busy week
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KartikPrabhu
will catch up on demos later
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jess1
is anyone working on indie-mon?
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KartikPrabhu
what is indiemon?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "indiemon" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indiemon is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu
looks like no
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jess1
well, i guess i mean - badges
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jess1
i should look for the etherpad from yesterdy
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aaronpk
jess1: yes!
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aaronpk
slightly new version revised from yeserday's notes
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KartikPrabhu
what is badges
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Loqi
A badge (AKA achievement) is a visual indicator of completing some sort of accomplishment, usually associated with completing specific tasks within a system that is frequently recognized as "achievement unlocked", or "you unlocked the xyz badge!" https://indieweb.org/badges
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KartikPrabhu
jess1: ^^
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tantek__
KartikPrabhu: see yesterday's logs about indiemon
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KartikPrabhu
"gotta catch 'em all"
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aaronpk
I still refuse to call it that :)
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dougbeal
I'm picturing collecting emoji features that you can remix into monsters, then its IndiEmojiMon
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[tantek]
dougbeal++ 😂
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Loqi
dougbeal has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (17 in all channels)
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gRegorLove
I think poke-web sounds better than indie-mon
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gRegorLove
Though with the accent so it doesn't sound like a FB poke thing :)
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aaronpk
i'm calling it monster space
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aaronpk
but I just switched to my easy win project because i'm not sure I can actually finish it :P
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[schmarty]
easywinprojects++
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Loqi
easywinprojects has 1 karma over the last year
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aaronpk
this is opening up some new rabbit holes though
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aaronpk
nope not getting squares today
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[schmarty]
aaronpk: can you use a pseudoelement in the container and the padding-bottom trick? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1495407/maintain-the-aspect-ratio-of-a-div-with-css#10441480
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[schmarty]
oops this is dev
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doubleloop
Good evening indieweb
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doubleloop
Does anyone do any kind of sync of their RSVP posts to their calendar?
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aaronpk
my site publishes an iCal feed of my events, but not my RSVPs
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aaronpk
and I added that to my google calendar
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doubleloop
aaronpk: cool, I'm thinking that if I RSVP yes to an event, I'd that to appear in my calendar
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aaronpk
I like that idea
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[dougbeal]
Are we on schedule to demo in 20 minutes?
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aaronpk
good question
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dougbeal
Next question, when are they starting? ;)
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tantek__
dougbeal -> meta, cc: jgmac1106
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tantek__
event & schedule stuff is meta
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[schmarty]
update: we will probably be doing demos very soon because we have to be out of the space by 3:30pm after all (an earlier discussion had us thinking we could stay longer)
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Zegnat
arives
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gRegorLove
doubleloop, I've wanted to do the same thing on my calendar
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GWG
Someone note that on the RSVP page of the wiki?
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GWG
For future
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dougbeal|mb1
Live
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Zegnat
Kaja++
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Loqi
Kaja has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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jackjamieson
Kaja++ Thanks!
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Loqi
Kaja has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (9 in all channels)
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Zegnat
[schmarty] shows that indiewebring will no longer put flags in there
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Zegnat
(sorry if I am late and something else was shown first)
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dougbeal
Zegnat: nope
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Zegnat
aaronpk up next
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Zegnat
Had lots of goals.
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Zegnat
Based on the badge / Pokémon session yesterday.
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Zegnat
Worked on monster.space, shows off what he built.
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Zegnat
Browser checks your location and if you are at the right venue ... Something is supposed to happen.
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Zegnat
Then switched to doing something else: emulate Facebook's coloured background posts
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Zegnat
He can tag any post with a colour code and it is supposed to render a background colour.
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Zegnat
Broke for unknown reasons, showing on dev version.
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Zegnat
A close colour is picked aswell to generate a gradient, like Facebook
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Zegnat
Post stays square no matter browser viewport, text colour is white or black depending on contrast
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Zegnat
Up next GWG
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gRegorLove
...missed the exact details, but something with WordPress Media Picker and posting photos?
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Zegnat
GWG did WordPress work on the editor
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gRegorLove
Up next jgmac1106
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Zegnat
Sorry, I too had some issues
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gRegorLove
... indie t-shirt design factory
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Zegnat
jgmac1106 has a text-on-tshirts system
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Zegnat
Made some GWG-quote shorts
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Zegnat
jgmac1106 also requests feedback on badge markup
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Zegnat
Next up: tantek__
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GWG
Mine was switching to using the WordPress media picker for photo, audio, video posts instead of the URL
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Zegnat
tantek worked on the wiki
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Zegnat
especially the undo page (see also yesterday’s session)
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Zegnat
if you undo something, it should not look like anything has ever happened at all. Thus not a delete, which first publishes a thing that publishing may not be undoable without special functionality
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Zegnat
lots of inspiration from gmail
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Zegnat
I think I have a demo ... if webmention.rocks behaves. Let me know if you want to get remotes in there! ([schmarty] / jgmac1106 / aaronpk)
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aaronpk
Zegnat: we don't have a way for you to talk here, but one of us here can demo for you!
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Zegnat
[Rose], bringing any adapters is always extremely appreciated at any event ;)
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Zegnat
aaronpk, I am afraid you can’t, unless you can take over my screen to tell gearman to do a thing
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[Rose]
TeamViewer?
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Zegnat
shurcool up next
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Zegnat
been talking about Go a lot under the event
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jgmac1106
[zegnat] if you have the bandwidth and data left I can do a hangout and you can share the screen
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Zegnat
I have the data, would love to try if you guys have the time, jgmac1106. Let everyone else go first though
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jgmac1106
okay, one sec link on way
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Zegnat
shurcool has been showing that basic principles of hello world can easily go into running a simple web server
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jgmac1106
any remote demo can use that I will plug into hdmi
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Zegnat
Just serving up a folder of files through Go now
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jgmac1106
zegnat click on link
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[Rose]
Zegnat is up now 😉
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Zegnat
On my way
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[schmarty]
zegnat: you're up! hop on the hangouts
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Zegnat
Had to grab my Hangouts Browser ...
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jackjamieson
[schmarty]++ Thanks! If there's time I could demo on hangouts, but nbd
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Loqi
[schmarty] has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (65 in all channels)
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gRegorLove
Up next Zegnat
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gRegorLove
... set up a background service to send async webmentions
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gRegorLove
... shows a demo with webmention.rocks
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[schmarty]
jack: yes click link
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[schmarty]
you are up
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jackjamieson
joining now
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Zegnat
Why did my demo fail when it worked for the first, darn
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gRegorLove
Up next jackjamieson
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[Rose]
Live demos
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gRegorLove
... set up a UI in /Yarns to subscribe to feeds
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Zegnat
[Rose], when you are still working on the code 10 minutes ago, you have no choice but to demo live ;)
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gRegorLove
(I think it's /Yarns? )
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gRegorLove
... can also filter by post types. shows adding checkins back to the stream.
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Zegnat
Up next is ..? Not-tiara? ;)
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Zegnat
Worked on the website of her business
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gRegorLove
[schmarty] ^ name/url?
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Zegnat
Decided to go with Known as a system, rather than writing HTML from scratch
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Zegnat
integrate several social silos
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Zegnat
Really showing the beginning of a website
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Zegnat
That’s the end of NYC 2018 IWC!
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Zegnat
Applause!
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Zegnat
adds virtual applause
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jackjamieson
Thanks everyone!
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gRegorLove
jgmac1106++ for organizing IWC NYC
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Loqi
jgmac1106 has 16 karma in this channel over the last year (61 in all channels)
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Zegnat
Thanks PACE for the venue, thanks sponsors! See https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC#Sponsors so I can’t make mistakes naming any of them here! :D
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Zegnat
PACE students want to get a HWC going! Woo~
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gRegorLove
"So long and thanks for all the webmentions"
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Zegnat
“Take care of eachother!” I like that one :D
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Zegnat
Stream down
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Zegnat
Now to see why my demo failed >.>
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aaronpk
*phew* fixed my site after I broke it for the demo
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doubleloop
GWG: I started a section about RSVP calendar integration
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[schmarty]
oops, forgot to give the URL for [tmiller] above. it's https://rootedfromnature.com/
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Zegnat
Awesome!
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