#indieweb 2018-09-28

2018-09-28 UTC
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gRegorLove I got an email from Ello with subject "Bon Voyage" and I thought they were going to announce closing, but it's about travel photos
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aaronpk loooollllll
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jacky that's one way to get you to open an email lol
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Loqi Sorry, I couldn't find a page named "geordi: { std::cout" or similar
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[shurcool] Hi.
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GWG Hello.
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GWG [shurcool]: Yes. I'm attending. Hack Day is on Saturday.
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GWG Now?
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[shurcool] Luckily there are still tickets available
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GWG [shurcool]: Register and put your name up so they know you are coming.
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GWG We added more today.
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Loqi hehe
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[shurcool] Well I pulled the trigger. See you tomorrow πŸ˜„
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-28.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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aaronpk [shurcool]: yay! looking forward to meeting you!
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Loqi πŸ˜„
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Maha1 hey :)
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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Zegnat I just realised, because the IndieWebCamp NYC venue closes relatively early on Saturday, it will be easy for EU folks to call in and watch demos / present remotely if possible
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[eddie] uh oh... if Zegnat is awake that's a bad sign for my sleep. πŸ˜†
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Zegnat Consider this, [eddie]: when am I not awake?
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[eddie] Hahaha!
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Loqi hehe
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Zegnat Looks like demos tomorrow are set for 14:35. By my (that is: WolframAlpha’s) calculations that is 20:35 CEST. I am totally up for some after-dinner demos!
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sknebel Oh yeah, that's nice and early
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AkyRhO Hi guys
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/Emmabarnett/status/1045561389778112512?s=19
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@Emmabarnett Morning. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoKUiHHX0AAGdAj.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1045561389778112512)
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[kevinmarks] ActivityPub << criticism, feed advocacy https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/2535-ActivityPub-hot-take
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Loqi ok, I added "criticism, feed advocacy https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/2535-ActivityPub-hot-take" to the "See Also" section of /ActivityPub https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52100&oldid=50879
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jgmac1106 Hey everyone, dropped my phone yesterday and the display died overnight. Can’t reach me by phone. Best bet during the IWC will be IRC/SLACK and of course jgmac1106 anywhere on the web
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jeremycherfas !tell zegnat I would be up for some after dinner demos too, but I will be out for dinner and just getting started, alas.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 #join /indieweb-meta
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jgmac1106 oops
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GWG On my way to Manhattan
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petermolnar anyone aware of a static generator or flat cms that's photographer/portfolio friendly, and has some sort of way to import from wordpress? I'm seriously considering moving a few of the wp instances I host to "something else" but every single time I start looking, something is missing. With the static generators, there's no GUI, tinyMCE, etc; flat cmses aim mainly at blogs and their media handling can get terrible; and nearly none of the
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petermolnar m have a decent WP importer.
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petermolnar (might be a bit offtopic though)
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jgmac1106 [petermolnar] answered in dev channel
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jeremycherfas I've been hearing good things about Craft CMS but have no experience.
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petermolnar jeremycherfas: we continued in
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petermolnar -dev
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[shurcool] I’ll be half an hour late, but I’m omw
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[leigh] good morning!
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[leigh] will tune in now & b there this afternoon
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[leigh] can u pls share the livestream link?
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[leigh] TY
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jeremycherfas The link to Schedule at https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC#How_to_Remote_Participate is broken
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Maha1 or would some of them want to join inside the hangout itself?
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jeremycherfas So is the link directly above, under Schedule.
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Maha1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyVl0nE9DCc
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Maha1 ^^ link to watch session in 25 mins
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jeremycherfas Maha1 Is it not at 3pm
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jeremycherfas CEST?
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Maha1 ..my session at 9:30am EDT
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jeremycherfas Schedule says 3pm; your post says 3:30pm CEST
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jacky time to update the wiki
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jacky lol
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Maha1 I
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jeremycherfas OK; wiki has you as first speaker at 9:00 EDT
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Maha1 Greg and I had a miscomm
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jeremycherfas Yes, Central European Summer Time; I am in Rome.
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Maha1 I initially thought mine was 3;30 NY time :)
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jackjamieson Good morning IndieWeb
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jacky o/
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jeremycherfas Oh, well, I'll keep an eye out here for whoever is first.
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jacky I'm the only one up at 6 AM lol
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Maha1 Pacific?
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jeremycherfas Where is jacky?
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Maha1 Does anyone wanna be inside the hangout with me?
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jacky yup
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Maha1 I can post the join link here
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jacky re: Pacific
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jeremycherfas What's the difference, other than having to sign in to Google?
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Maha1 dunno how Indie is Indie :)
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jeremycherfas Good question.
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Maha1 downloading the Google hangout plugin
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Maha1 ppl who r v security conscious don't like it
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[leigh] πŸ‘
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[leigh] yes pls
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Maha1 also this chat won't let me type a long message :)
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Maha1 the join link won't post here. I'll make a bitly!!
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Maha1 http://bit.ly/IndieWebMaha
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Maha1 I'm resourceful :) hehe
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Zegnat keeps a separate Google Chrome installation just for Hangouts and the likes
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Loqi Zegnat: jeremycherfas left you a message 2 hours, 30 minutes ago: I would be up for some after dinner demos too, but I will be out for dinner and just getting started, alas.
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Zegnat All of you should be able to change the chat topic btw, feel free to add live links in there!
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jeremycherfas !tell zegnat On a virtual machine?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Maha1 cool thing Zegnat
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Zegnat Not quiet that far, jeremycherfas
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Zegnat I’m still about 15 minutes off, then I’ll see where I can connect and how I can keep chat active :D
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jeremycherfas {OK
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Nuve /clearall
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jgmac1106 [baha_mail] you here?
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jgmac1106 my phone also died been one of those days
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Maha1 I am there
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Maha1 Sorry about your phone
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Maha1 the join link is
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Maha1 http://bit.ly/IndieWebMaha
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Zegnat Alright, I am here for a bit
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Zegnat jgmac1106, how are things on that side? Streams? Keynotes?
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aaronpk we have a really rough livestream up right now
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jeremycherfas Link?
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aaronpk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkhhMiGP-g
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jeremycherfas Got it; thanks!
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jgmac1106 adding keynote speaker now….
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Zegnat Stream looks OK
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Zegnat Wherever jgmac1106 is sitting, he is very audible on stream
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Zegnat should take this to meta
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Maha1 need to know when to go live :)
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWebCamp NYC! Main room stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkhhMiGP-g, Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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jacky awesome thanks Zegnat
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aaronpk jgmac1106 is audible no matter where he is :)
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Zegnat jgmac1106 might want to join meta?
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[shurcool] Which entrance should I use?
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aaronpk [shurcool]: the door 163 William Street
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[shurcool] building
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aaronpk :facepalm:
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aaronpk at 163?
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[shurcool] I think :/
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[shurcool] I can try again
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aaronpk they should have a list of people
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Maha1 is anyone here in the room at NYC?
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Zegnat Some people are, yes
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jeremycherfas Yes, they are maha1
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GWG I am
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Maha1 ok.. technical issues?
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Maha1 I am assuming you cannot hear me?
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aaronpk the TV is muted while people are trickling in
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[shurcool] Ok I think I’m in, going to 2nd floor
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Zegnat IWC NYC is switching the schedule a little, but first keynote is happening in a couple of minutes!
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Zegnat New security guard has been sending people away at the door. jgmac1106 is sorting things out as we speak
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Zegnat Maha1, is going to go live with her keynote! I’ll see if I can take some live notes here for those reading along at home.
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jacky thanks for the updates!
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Zegnat tries to jump to the Hangouts
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petermolnar we can here you, Maha1; hopefully I'm talking in the name of stalkers :)
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jacky makes a virtual w00t!
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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tantek a little bit of distortion on the mic
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spuchagev Seeing the slides in Oklahoma!
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Zegnat Maha1, calling in from Cairo, assoc. prof.. Keynote: Connecting the World: Intentions and Realities
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Zegnat (And then hangouts kicked me... brb with notes)
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GWG I'm afraid to type much due noise
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tantek because he doesn't drink?
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tantek and doesn't want to advocate drinking?
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GWG Is he muslim and therefore drinking is a religious matter?
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWebCamp NYC! Join in on Maha’s keynote: https://bitly.com/IndieWebMaha Main room stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkhhMiGP-g, Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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Zegnat (back … I think)
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Zegnat Requests for stories of good intentions that had bad outcomes.
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GWG I can't think of one that well defines it, though I'm sure I have some embarrassing ones.
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Zegnat I can’t do the hangouts, sorry, no notes. Internet literally can’t keep up with the audio. Missed all of Joe’s and only caught that jackjamieson’s problem was that his passion didn’t mean everyone in the class would be passionate :(
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aaronpk oh yeah use the hangouts link for this
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aaronpk the youtube stream is for the in person talks
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Zegnat It is clearer. But I can only keep up with the main room stream. jacky if you are in there, feel free to take some notes in here!
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jeremycherfas I'm listening to Maha's YouTube channel and the audio is just great.
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Zegnat jeremycherfas, link?
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petermolnar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyVl0nE9DCc
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Zegnat Brilliant! 240p at good quality. Let me try and get into the flow again for notes :D
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Zegnat When Maha1 is learning from folks around the world, it becomes clear that images mean cultural specific things
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Zegnat In the west dogs are loyal or men’s best friend. In a lot of muslim countries, dogs are unclean. Dogs can also be used as insult – even in the west.
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Zegnat Cows are sacred in India, but can be used as an insult in the West. They are also food (in the west). So what do you mean when you use that imagery?
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petermolnar gov.uk design guidelines: no icons or pictograms, for similar reasons: they can get confusing
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Zegnat Same applies to pigs, and interestingly enough, to pidgens
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Zegnat β€œBut a wall does not appear to those who do not come up against it – Sarah Ahmed”
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Zegnat Virtually Connecting (a project she started) to try and get conversations going for people who attend virtually.
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Zegnat Live streams often exist, but the thing you miss virtually is the hallway talk. The chatting. This can be gotten through Virtually Connecting
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Zegnat The virtual has pros and cons. They have to be careful not to make people who already have access to certain people extra available while undercutting marginalised attendents.
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Zegnat Projects with intentions β€œto liberate, democratize, include, but…”
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tantek do they not have cellphones? cellphones require credit cards and cost a lot more!
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Zegnat Domain of One’s Own: the concept of paying for a domain every year (especially renewal when they were given for free) is a problem. Especially in places where people do not even have access to credit cards.
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petermolnar Maha1: it doesn't require a credit card; I had domain before credit card and used wire transfers
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petermolnar doesn't even need to be paid online
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Zegnat (tantek, I have never needed a credit card to get a phone, in the last 14 years of owning a phone.)
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jeremycherfas Do cellphones in Egypt require credit card? I suspect there are many PAYG.
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tantek petermolnar: many registrars also accept crypto
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wakest[m] @tantek cell phones do not at all require a credit card in many countries
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petermolnar crypto is actually complicated
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jacky I wonder if IPFS could help with domains
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petermolnar but Hungary used to run quite behind on the domain selling thing, it required photocopied ID card to reg a .hu till 2013-ish
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Zegnat The main issue, per keynote, with DoOO is that you tell people this domain is important to them, but then β€œtake it away” when they graduate and are no longer covered by the DoOO program
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tantek jacky, adding more plumbing usually makes things more complicated
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petermolnar so yeah, you can certainly have domains without credit cards
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GWG I'm curious what the different conclusions are
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Zegnat Now on to Wikipedia as a project with the same intents. Here different language Wikipedias may even come to different conclusions.
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Zegnat β€œmajority and power goes into a particular direction”
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petermolnar Maha1: that's the very definition of history :( written by the majority.
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tantek petermolnar: we should document the domain registrars that do not require credit cards
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jess1 i'd actually argue that it's the beauty of Wikipedia - that there are opportunities to write your own history and have those conflicts and necessary discussions
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Zegnat Moving on to open education. β€œThe people who are making the decisions are not the people benefiting from them” (that’s a great quote!)
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Loqi aww, cheer up
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petermolnar tantek: fair point
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GWG Low hanging fruit?
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Zegnat Interesting problem: finding an equality/equity image that is universally understood.
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wakest[m] not everyone can eat apples.
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jacky I'm getting a vineyard vibe
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jacky (inb4 apples lol)
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petermolnar not everyone wants apples. not everyone qualified to pick apples. lots and lots of questions/problems
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wakest[m] not everyone can stand up to reach an apple
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GWG If the three people on the left stacked their pedestals, they could get the little person up to the apples.
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[shurcool] It seems unlikely that a tree would only have apples at the exact same height above ground.
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jacky that's an interesting point
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Zegnat lol [shurcool]
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jeremycherfas Shurcool++
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Loqi Shurcool has 3 karma over the last year
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petermolnar [shurcool]: that a very good point :)
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Downes Hiya IRC peeps
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petermolnar Maha1: that's not the open source movement
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jeremycherfas The image isn't about apples, or baseball. It is about the difference between equality and equity. That should be the focus of any discussion it is intended to provoke
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petermolnar "spending your life coding"
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petermolnar that's not it
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tantek Thank you Maha!!!
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tantek Great talk
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petermolnar thank you indeed
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jacky thanks Maha1!!
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Zegnat Thanks Maha1 :D
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tantek Maha1++
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Loqi Maha1 has 1 karma over the last year
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jeremycherfas Maha1++ Good talk
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Loqi Maha1 has 2 karma over the last year
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jackjamieson Maha1++ Thank you Maha, great talk!
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Loqi Maha1 has 3 karma over the last year
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Zegnat jgmac talking now; thanking and wants to make IWC open and more spread out, much like the things Maha1 was mentioning :)
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jacky claps
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jacky lol
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWebCamp NYC! Main room stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkhhMiGP-g, Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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Zegnat jumps streams
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Maha1 what is karma? :) in this context
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "karma" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "karma is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk magic internet points!
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jeremycherfas Good stuff, is what it is.
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jeremycherfas People ofering you kudos and praise.
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petermolnar appreciation points from others
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jacky oooh 10 years coming up
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Downes OK, watchinmg main room now
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Zegnat *almost* a decade of IndieWebCamp
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct - make sure you read it
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Zegnat jgmac and jess are points of contacts during the event
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jacky raises hand virtually
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Zegnat For the online folks: there are some points of contacts on that page, go to them about anything!
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aaronpk we don't have a video link back to this room for remote people yet but if you ask a question here someone in person can relay it
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Zegnat Next up: Jess Klein
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jacky which room are you referring to aaronpk?
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aaronpk main room
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jacky damn it, shoulda screencapped Greg in front of the camera lol
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jeremycherfas \go, wuick
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jacky lol gotta wait for the playback
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[Khurt] Good morning.
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jeremycherfas Hi Khurt
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Zegnat Jess Klein works for the internet.
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jacky cues hacker music
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Zegnat Didn’t feel her work (museum / Ruben Museum of Art) was very accessible.
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Zegnat Found QuickTime VR. Created things. Opened up to the internet.
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Zegnat Learned along the way.
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[kevinmarks] woo QuickTime VR oldschool
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Zegnat Found that there were not a lot of designers in open source communities, or the communities Jess was interested in
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Zegnat Wanted to talk about Mozilla, Wikipedia, P5, and all these great communities she has been working for/with.
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jeremycherfas Anyway to cut between speaker and slides?
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Zegnat But has been watching the news these last couple of days, and is a bit pissed.
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Zegnat Wants to talk about creating safe spaces for folk to work in
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Zegnat (jeremycherfas I think we have only 1 camera at the moment)
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jeremycherfas Fair enough
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Zegnat Jess Klein is http://jessklein.is/
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Zegnat Showing http://jessklein.is/project/odk/ (has a real link ... somewhere)
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Zegnat Again: everyone has these great intentions, but it isn’t always easy to work together
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jacky http://opendesignkit.org/
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Zegnat When at Bocoup they had a vision for working with distributed teams.
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Zegnat How do you join in as a designer in a engineer run flow?
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Zegnat She became this character where (no matter what she was doing) she became a teacher to the whole room.
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Zegnat Needed to figure out how to do the design work, while also teaching others to work with a designer.
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Zegnat β€œBest practices for how to work with designers”
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Maha1 thanks for having me
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Maha1 enjoy the rest of the event! xoxo
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Zegnat Thanks for being here Maha1! Have a good evening! :D
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Zegnat Jess wanted a β€œwhite labeled” kit, so anyone could use it, and anyone could contribute to it. To decouple it from Bocoup.
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Zegnat Minimum Lovable Product instead of a Minimum Viable Product.
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Zegnat People needed to *want* to repeat using it
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Downes 'Minimum Lovable Project' - Love it
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[leigh] tuned in
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[leigh] TY
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[leigh] πŸ™‚
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Zegnat Helping people to figure out how to use different tools to get to where they want to go.
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Zegnat Inclusive language: β€œwe have one way to do it” instead of β€œthis is the way to do it”
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Zegnat Now in a sort of testing phase with multiple organisation.
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Zegnat How do you work in public? How do you apply it to open-source?
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Zegnat Articulating the design process can really bring a team together.
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Zegnat wishes he could read the slide
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jeremycherfas too
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Zegnat Tools like user stories: how are people doing it? GitHub? Whiteboards? Sticky notes? Figure out what makes sense for your situation!
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Zegnat Showing examples on screen
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Zegnat Designers and engineers should all be on one team and should all be working *openly* together
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Zegnat β€œThe best way to get feedback is to put messy stuff up.”
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GWG FYI, there are hugging point signs around the room
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Zegnat Therefor designers are being encouraged to get messy early on and share during their processes to get as much feedback as possible
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jeremycherfas So true; with text too, don't make it look like a printed page if you want to be able to get good edits and notice typos etc.
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Zegnat The project has gotten a β€œcommunity reboot”, taken more outside of Bocoup.
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Zegnat It will never be β€œa literal kit in a box”. But that is fine. Because there isn’t a one true way to do personas to pull out of a box
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Zegnat Also shares feedback they have gotten about what they are doing *wrong*. Sharing wrongs is important for transparency
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Zegnat hopes he is capturing the gist of this without seeing the slides
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aaronpk Zegnat++ doing great
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Loqi Zegnat has 39 karma in this channel over the last year (158 in all channels)
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Zegnat Jess is trying to recruit more people to work on the remote entries
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Zegnat Everything is CC licensed.
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[kevinmarks] I think [benwerd] would like this
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Zegnat What tools do you use? Tools change. Open-source tools become commercial.
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Zegnat There have also been requests from people who want to see workflows that have already been tried. Were they successful? Were they not? Important information to have.
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Zegnat Showing templates that (should be openly accessible) for anyone to look at and see how others are doing the different activities of collaboration
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Zegnat Clearly this is Jess’ first IWC, and she doesn’t know how messy our notes and stickies can get! :D
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GWG Zegnat: It isn't, actually
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Zegnat Woops
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jeremycherfas But you're going to redesign them all now.
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Zegnat Why do I not remember her :o That’s bad. Hmm...
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GWG https://indieweb.org/2016/NYC2/indorsements
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Zegnat You have to acknowledge your own biases when coming in to a project.
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GWG I really should have built that in the last 2 years
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Zegnat β€œThere are a lot of people who are very happy to tell you when you were wrong” β€œand you should embrace that”
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Zegnat How would someone get involved without knowing anything about it? Best way for the kit: just grab one of the examples and try to apply it in your work.
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dougbeal|mb1 Did anyone catch the github link?
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Zegnat And especially when it fails, reach out
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aaronpk https://github.com/open-design-kit
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Zegnat This is supposed to be an equaliser: you ask questions and come up with answers. Something both designers and engineers do.
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Zegnat β€œHow to trap (?) designers?” - Seek them out!
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aaronpk s/trap/attract
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Zegnat ah, missed the β€œat-”
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jeremycherfas Claps
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GWG We could use some help with indieweb.org
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Zegnat You didn’t tag her, GWG ;)
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jacky cues outro music
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Zegnat Next up: ........ drum roll
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GWG aaronpk on deck
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Zegnat aaronpk, one of our co-founders. Going to give a little background about the IndieWeb and talk about social readers
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jeremycherfas Yay!
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Zegnat Awesome jess1, thanks!
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Loqi 😊
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Zegnat jess1, can we link that on the wiki later?
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jess1 yes
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jacky what is silo death
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "silo death" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "silo death is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky agh
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Zegnat great
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jess1 im trying to paste a link here
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jess1 but it wont let me
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Zegnat I see the link
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tantek__ Google Docs link above?
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tantek__ silo death is /site-deaths
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Loqi ok
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jess1 yes, it's not showing on my screen hha
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Zegnat aaronpk, talking about ways to start your own website, in a way that will probably keep it online longer than with all the services that have died.
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Zegnat The link doesn’t show in the logs, apparently... Loqi bug, possibly
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Zegnat Are you using the web client on chat.indieweb.org, jess1?
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Zegnat 2018/NYC << Jess’ [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dnCDc6BAohIuL8fxB2_nOqtpzGX6RWt1BE4Vay4tC2Y/edit?usp=sharing presentation on Google Docs]
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Loqi ok, I added "Jess’ [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dnCDc6BAohIuL8fxB2_nOqtpzGX6RWt1BE4Vay4tC2Y/edit?usp=sharing presentation on Google Docs]" to the "See Also" section of /2018/NYC https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52123&oldid=52101
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Zegnat There we go, on the wiki never to be lost again :D
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Zegnat Resuming notes: aaronpk is showing Google Reader as a non-social reader. You couldn’t easily have two way conversations, just use it to read people’s sites
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jeremycherfas RSS is not dead!
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Zegnat Websites like Twitter and Facebook helped lower such reader usage because they enabled two way conversations
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Zegnat What is Monocle?
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Loqi Monocle is an open source IndieWeb-enabled reader developed by Aaron Parecki https://indieweb.org/Monocle
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Zegnat A reader that will show the posts of people you are subscribed to, but also lets you reply right there.
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Zegnat Those replies go on his own site, and notifies the other site that he has replied
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Zegnat Having this as an open standard allows people to build native apps to do the same thing
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Zegnat Because anyone can build any part of it, people do not always have to build the entire thing themselves
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Zegnat Now showing Together, showing the same things as Monocle before, but in a different clioent
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Zegnat What is Together?
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Loqi Together is a reader that was initially conceived at the 2017 IndieWeb Summit in Portland by Jonathan LaCour and several others during the Putting it all together session https://indieweb.org/Together
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Zegnat Talking about Aperture: the part that stores all of the things you subscribe to.
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Zegnat What is Aperture?
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Loqi Aperture is an open source Microsub server developed by Aaron Parecki https://indieweb.org/Aperture
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Zegnat There is a WordPress plugin that will get Aperture up and running for you immediately. Once you have Aperture, you can pick any of the mentioned clients to try out
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Zegnat If writing code is your thing: check out the indieweb building blocks
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[kevinmarks] classic PubSubHubbub logo
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Zegnat (Downes it is also open-source, if you want to host an unlimited version yourself)
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Downes ah ok
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Zegnat Some core principals: * build things you would want to use yourself.
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Zegnat * UX and design is more important than protocols: how something is being used is always the most important part.
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Zegnat * modularity: do not have one thing do everything, build in small steps
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[kevinmarks] google reader did end up . bit more social
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Zegnat * plurality: value to having a wide range of products. Share the core aspects and protocols, then adapt to your needs / a platform’s needs
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[kevinmarks] but it was messy
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Zegnat jgmac taking over again. Everyone will be working on making a session grid. There are 4 breakout rooms available for sessions outside the main room
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jeremycherfas Very good. Thanks to maha1 and jess1 and aaronpk for great talks. Have a fun rest of day.
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Zegnat Hmm. Not my best note-taking work today. Sorry everyone. The internet isn’t having it today.
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Zegnat β€œThere is a bag, somewhere in this room, …” :D
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jeremycherfas Far better than I could ever manage.
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jeremycherfas Zegnat++
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Loqi Zegnat has 40 karma in this channel over the last year (159 in all channels)
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[schmarty] hello remote attendees! i will be your proxy for any sessions you would like to propose. moderating a session remotely may be a challenge, but i believe in you!
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[schmarty] so let me know!
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Zegnat Three tracks: there is one video conference room available, so if remote people want to propose a session that is probably possible to
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Zegnat I can vouch for [schmarty]’s ability as a proxy :D
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Zegnat jgmac is introducing not his own site but the page for his course material, which is all marked up to work in a social reader like those shown by aaronpk
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Zegnat β€œevery online class needs a no-driving policy”
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Zegnat Project is on Glitch and can simply be remixed by anyone
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Zegnat What is glitch?
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Loqi Glitch (formerly Gomix, HyperDev before that) is a tool by Fog Creek Software to allow you to quickly prototype web applications in a complete IDE with built in version control, sharing, and more https://indieweb.org/Glitch
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Zegnat His goal this week is to build a badging system through webmentions
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dougbeal|mb1 lol, search not on glitch :/
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Zegnat Racheal from Google’s Data Liberation Front - intial project is Google Takeout. All about portability of the data
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[kevinmarks] takeout downloads still good IMO
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Zegnat Wanting to enable service-to-service data transfer
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[kevinmarks] if they had even more microformats in, yay
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Zegnat I agree that Takeout is pretty good :D
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Loqi 😊
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Zegnat Sounds like you need to get connected there [kevinmarks]
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dougbeal https://indiewebcoursetemplate.glitch.me
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Loqi Course Title
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[kevinmarks] if what you download is a standalone site, that's great
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[kevinmarks] twitter does that quite well
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Zegnat jess is currently senior ux designer at wikipedia.org. Main foxus: mobile editing experience.
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[kevinmarks] when you could just serve it form Google Drive, that was neat (though it had crappy urls)
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Zegnat ([schmarty] want to go introduce me again? ;))
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Zegnat tantek.com introducing himself
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Zegnat Shows the different types of posts he has been putting up there: photos, replies, notes (β€œtweets”), events ... even github issues are on there
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Zegnat brid.gy was used to automatically have it show up on GitHub
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dougbeal Zegnat: do you write up a little script/links for a remote intro?
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jacky ^
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Zegnat Last time I just had [schmarty] show https://vanderven.se/martijn/ and its mf2 output. Highlighting my pottermore house
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven
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Downes tantek.com isn't responding :(
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Zegnat Anyone in the room have the URL currently on screen?
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Zegnat (GWG?)
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aaronpk http://wake.st/
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Zegnat Ah, thanks aaronpk!
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Loqi it'll be okay
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Zegnat Liaizon has been following ~40 AP projects
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Zegnat First English speaker on the ___ platform
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GWG "Public Speaking is Scary"
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jackjamieson I missed the name of that platform, did anyone catch it?
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jackjamieson Or a url?
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aaronpk misskey.xyz
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jackjamieson Thanks
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Zegnat URLs are always the toughest details to catch on stream I’m afraid
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tantek Downes, still? reload?
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Zegnat Dimitri up now
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wakest[m] thanks aaron for the link post
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Zegnat (This is [shurcool] I assume)
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Zegnat *Dmitri
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Zegnat Personal website: https://dmitri.shuralyov.com/
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Zegnat Been moving Go packages off of GitHub into his own website
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Zegnat His site also hosts the changes overview and the issue list.
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[chrisaldrich] γŠγ―γ‚ˆγ†γ”γ–γ„γΎγ™ IndiewebCamp NY!
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Zegnat Now up: arturpaikin.com
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Zegnat Been working on a file uploader that can grab from anywhere. E.g. taking a photo from Instagram and put it on the server.
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Zegnat tantek.com is available for me, no issue
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Zegnat Jason is up
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Zegnat What is plerd?
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Loqi Plerd is a free and open-source static site generator project developed by Jason McIntosh, optimized for use with single-user blogs https://indieweb.org/Plerd
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jackjamieson Good morning [chrisaldrich]!
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Zegnat That Jason, with that static site generator ^^^
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Zegnat Now version has been released since the latest IWC he was at. It now also supports Webmentions (if you ask it nicely)
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Zegnat Started mailing lists, can find it on http://fogknife.com/, for people who want to use the project or contribute to it
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Zegnat Nex tup [schmarty]
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Zegnat https://martymcgui.re/ ; build on jekyll, supporting many fun indieweb things.
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Zegnat Has a special feed of upcoming events
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Zegnat (Aplause for the weekly-ish podcast)
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Downes tantek.copm has not loaded :)
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tantek typo?
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Downes (has NOW loaded)
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Zegnat Built a simple webring on glitch.com for indieweb sites. If you can signin to the wiki, you can sign up for the ring
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Downes I *hates* the now-not typo
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dougbeal schmarty: if you could do a lightning round for me - https://indieweb.org/User:Dougbeal.com/2018NYC
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Zegnat Interested in moving things to places like Glitch where other people can use what he builds
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Zegnat Clever dougbeal! I should have a page like that!
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Zegnat β€œWhat is a web ring?”
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dougbeal Zegnat: I only discovered subpages recently :)
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Zegnat A way to find pages without any centralised search.
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[kevinmarks] I need to do more on my glitch thingy - I got stumped on not knowing how to auth, but clearly indielogin is what I need
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Zegnat GWG has to go introduce himself per organisational requirement
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Zegnat One of the prolific wordpress people in the community
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Zegnat Makes a lot of IndieWeb tools for WordPress. Functionality > Design.
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Zegnat Goal for the last 4 years has been to make it so he can do something with an article on his phone, have that go to his site, have the article archived
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Zegnat There is now a Micropub mobile app that can talk to the Micropub WordPress plugin, and can syndicate outwards
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tantek (that's an excellent summary)
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Zegnat Also finds time to host an indieweb podcast
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tantek (of a key goal)
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Zegnat aaronpk showing his website: aaronpk.com
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GWG If aaronpk hasn't done it...I'm always surprised
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jacky greeeeegg
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Zegnat grabbed a photo
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[kevinmarks] https://satin-increase.glitch.me/note/2018-09-28151831.html
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Loqi derp - the obvious thing I should do is use indielogin.com #indieweb
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dougbeal Zegnat: yasss
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Zegnat https://i.imgur.com/SFeY9i7.png
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Zegnat dougbeal, jacky ^^^
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jacky lolol
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[schmarty] haha
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jgmac1106 https://hangouts.google.com/call/2fsBYybeWMyG18rqV91LAAEE
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[schmarty] ^^ main room two-way video chat
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jgmac1106 link for remote demos
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Zegnat has a hard time taking notes without tabbing away from hangouts and having it act up. Sorry.
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[kevinmarks] that had quite a beat
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aaronpk πŸ‘
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Downes gRSShopper website is https://grsshopper.downes.ca
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tantek go for it dougbeal
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Zegnat thinks he caught whatever is affecting jgmac today - and quickly closes hangouts to restore his machine to a functioning state
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Zegnat dougbeal has rebooted HWC in Seattle: time to show up everyone! :D
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GWG dougbeal, did I fix your issues?
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GWG dougbeal is also the father of the indiewebring
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tantek any other remote demos?
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[shurcool] To clear up any confusion, my username used to be `shurcooL` from 2000~ until 3 months ago; I changed it to `dmitshur` recently. I changed it in slack, but I’m guessing it hasn’t propagated via the irc gateway yet.
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Zegnat that part of the bridge can be a little behind, yes.
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aaronpk slack has two different username things now and I can't figure out which one goes to IRC
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aaronpk there's username and display name
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Zegnat [shurcool], also, most names I write go from memory. As soon as you started showing the git stuff on your own site I knew who to mention ;)
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jackjamieson I don't know why my audio is messed up *shrug* Oh well. My site is https://jackjamieson.net and I'm working on a microsub server plugin for WordPress: https://github.com/jackjamieson2/yarns-microsub-server
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GWG jackjamieson: I appreciate you
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dougbeal Design Factory - Room 238 ?
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dougbeal Video Conference
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dougbeal What was the 3rd breakout room?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "3rd breakout room" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "3rd breakout room is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jackjamieson GWG++ for moral support
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Loqi GWG has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (159 in all channels)
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aaronpk oh right, slack deprecated usernames
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[kevinmarks] it's a mess, yes
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tantek deprecated usernames?
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tantek which mess kevinmarks?
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Downes I want to see all of them
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[shurcool] Zegnat: πŸ‘ yep I instantly recognized you too after you showed your (awesome) site :)
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tantek jackjamieson: audio still bad sorry
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Zegnat Hahaha, yes, my website is pretty identifiable :D
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[kevinmarks] glitch's username deprecation - it means you no longer have unique handles
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Loqi nice
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[kevinmarks] which is a mess in giant slacks
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[chrisaldrich] I'm fiinally in the office and up and running. How far behind schedule are we yet? πŸ˜‰
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jackjamieson tanktek Thanks - I'll just type then
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[kevinmarks] now doing schedule
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Zegnat Is anyone working on the wiki schedule?
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tantek glitch or slack?
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aaronpk [chrisaldrich]: only a few minutes behind, we're building the schedule now, first session was supposed to start in 5 minutes
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dougbeal Zegnat: Not yet, want me to do it?
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Downes going awk for a bit...
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Downes afk
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Zegnat dougbeal, if you can. Previously I have asked for a photo of the final schedule and tried to put it on the wiki as quickly as possible
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dougbeal Zegnat: is there a template page, or just copy-pasta?
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Zegnat copy-paste from the most recent one, I would say. Summit should be good
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Zegnat I would vollunteer but I have to walk around for a bit
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dougbeal Zegnat: schmarty got it already
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Zegnat Awesome [schmarty]++
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dougbeal schmarty++
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Loqi schmarty has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (63 in all channels)
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Zegnat [schmarty]++ oops, words come after
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Loqi [schmarty] has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (64 in all channels)
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[kevinmarks] indie badges are a lot like wikipedia barnstars
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dougbeal Session idea: I want to compose micropub servers so I can use Baffle and Aperture at the same time, any other interest?
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aaronpk what is beffle?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "beffle" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "beffle is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk what is baffle?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "baffle" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "baffle is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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dougbeal Baffle is a bridge that makes traditional feed readers like [[NewsBlur]] and [[Feedly]] support [[Microsub.]]
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Loqi ok
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Downes back, listening
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jgmac1106 we lost the video feed. resetting
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dougbeal jgmac1106: I think everyone hung up for now? Using YouTube video
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aaronpk I dont know what video feed is lost? the youtube one is going
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Zegnat Youtube is fine. Listening to [schmarty] guiding the scheduling
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dougbeal Which column is the Video room?
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jgmac1106 third column nothing in it
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jgmac1106 I meant my hangout not our feed sorry
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aaronpk we'll have video in the other rooms too
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dougbeal aaronpk++
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[kevinmarks] ActivityPub and how to make the projects more indieweb friendly>
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dougbeal Remote vote for WP session
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jgmac1106 dougbeal++
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Loqi dougbeal has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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jgmac1106 any remote session ideas?
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aaronpk the "video conference room" has fancy video stuff
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Zegnat I haven’t cleared my entire evening today, so I will be in and out, don’t count of me during the sessions
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dougbeal ActivityPub and Undo, which was in what room?
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dougbeal Which room was dropped?
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Zegnat Undo is in video room
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Zegnat I think
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dougbeal Do we have a format for etherpad links?
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tantek__ yes add -hashtag on the end of the main etherpad for the IWC
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Zegnat https://etherpad.indieweb.org/{hashtag}
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tantek__ yes
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tantek__ that's better
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Zegnat are there links for the breakout rooms, tantek__, you know?
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aaronpk schmarty is setting up the video for the breakout room now
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[kevinmarks] mastodon to h-feed converter: http://www.unmung.com/mastoview
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Zegnat awesome news aaronpk :D
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], my problem was more with the lack of websub, don’t know when I need to poll
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Zegnat But that is veering into -dev
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tantek__ yes please take format conversion stuff to dev
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tantek__ Zegnat: w are trying to get video conferencing working again
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Zegnat I am off for a bit, I’ll see if any links have dropped when I get back
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Zegnat Great start of the day everyone!
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aaronpk links for video to breakout room are here https://etherpad.indieweb.org/activitypub
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tantek__ https://etherpad.indieweb.org/undo
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tantek__ Zegnat: are you on the video chat?
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Zegnat Not currently
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tantek__ Zegnat: see the etherpad if you want
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Zegnat Thanks. I’ll check stuff out when I get back to my desk
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[chrisaldrich] notes the irony of the video feed on the schedule board which is prominently featuring the facebook, twitter, and instagram logos during IWC. ;)
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Zegnat hunts for a stream that has something happening
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[kevinmarks] streams linked from https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC/Sessions
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Zegnat Oof, BlueJeans again. That’s automatically less interesting to me as I can only get audio by calling in on their phone line, tantek :(
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Zegnat I know sknebel also couldn’t get the web version to work at all for the organisers meetup yesterday.
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[kevinmarks] the activitypub one is hangouts
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Zegnat BlueJeans--
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Loqi BlueJeans has -1 karma over the last year
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Zegnat I’ll try split myself between a bit. Undecided on a session. Lets see if hangouts does the job
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[Rose] I don't see the streams linked there [kevinmarks]
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[kevinmarks] oh, sorry, I went to the etehrpad and the stream was linked there
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jgmac1106 okay let me add links to the stream in the session grid
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jgmac1106 ohh okay already there NVM
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jgmac1106 https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC/Sessions#Friday
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[kevinmarks] https://etherpad.indieweb.org/activitypub
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Zegnat DreamFactory streams seems to run well too. We may bash on Hangouts, but the fact you get the YouTube live stream is amazing
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Zegnat Right now: IndieWebCamp NYC! Main room stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkhhMiGP-g, DreamFactory room stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5rPaptEGGI; Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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[kevinmarks] YouTube having done the work to deal with multiple bandwidth options is handy
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[kevinmarks] it was funny having both open and watching aaron walk from one into the other
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Zegnat β€œhaving both open” ... yeah ... maybe next year
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dougbeal I had Dream Factory on laptop and phone, so I could go make tea
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[kevinmarks] I have Fibre to the Kerb here, so I get a decent link via coax
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Zegnat I find this to be a very interesting inclusivity point too. Can someone attend an IWC remotely on a 3G/4G connection or not.
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Downes back in the main room
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dougbeal Zegnat: can you turn off incomming video in hangouts?
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Zegnat Yes
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Zegnat Well... sometimes.
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Zegnat I couldn’t get it to work with Maha’s talk :/
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Zegnat But when I was introducing myself, I had incoming set to audio only and video out set to 360p
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Zegnat And that Just Worked(tm)
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dougbeal Zegnat: yeah, that was a Live Hangout, which is apparently differnt
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dougbeal Anyone catch was Lunch was?
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Zegnat For next IWC remote I plan to have mechanical keys too, GWG. That’ll hopefully result in faster and more accurate notes
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GWG Is my typing distracting?
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Zegnat Not to me
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dougbeal jgmac1106: did any join the bluejeans session? Just tried it now and the room wasn't there.
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Zegnat I think [chrisaldrich] was there, dougbeal
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jgmac1106 lunch
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[chrisaldrich] Thanks for the update jgmac1106 (for those of us attending remotely)
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[chrisaldrich] I was in bluejeans a few minutes ago, but the audio dropped out and it looked like I was the only one there...
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jgmac1106 my computer was hooked into everythign so I didn’t get to noterlive, it was kind of nice, need to shut my computer more
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[chrisaldrich] I suspect that they may have gone to lunch, but I'm not sure since audio dropped mid-sentence
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[chrisaldrich] The etherpad for the Undo session also looks like most have jumped out of it...
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Zegnat jgmac1106, there is a huge difference between talking to people, and talking to a notepad, haha
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aaronpk Lunch now until 1:15!
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Zegnat Sadly, this is where I need to leave. Next time I’ll plan to be free on IWC days again. I have kept the demo slot tomorrow free in my calendar, so don’t dare move that schedule around! ;)
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Zegnat Have a good IWC all! I’ll be around in chat but probably no streams or sessions
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jgmac1106 24 minutes until next session
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-09-28 12:15pm GMT-0500 (#6379)
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Zegnat (jgmac1106 I put links to the main room stream and dreamfactory room in the chat topic here. If the streams change URL, please update them if you can :))
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[chrisaldrich] I see sessions in the grid and some etherpads start?ed, did someone get a photo of the session grid
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Zegnat dougbeal, was working on the grid
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[Rose] Woot, finally figured out the hangouts
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Downes still watching in the main room (doing time codes so I can't jump on Hangout)
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Downes Maha coming throughg loud and clear
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dougbeal Downes: I think thats the recording. I watched it up until Maha came on, thinking it was live.
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dougbeal Rose: only Dream Factory is live (and empty) right now. Should resume in 15
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[Rose] Great, that's what I thought. Thanks!
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Downes You're right, it's the recording
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Downes I guess I need URL to either the live stream or the hangout... watching nothing now
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[chrisaldrich] Any remote attendees want to jump into a side-hangout and chat until things resume?
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[chrisaldrich] Good to see you here today Downes!
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[Rose] Procrastination score: 100%. I'm in!
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Downes I 'm still doing time entry codes, will jump in once that's done
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[chrisaldrich] Let me start a call. Link in a moment.
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[chrisaldrich] Wow my home machine is slow today...
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Downes the whole internet is slow
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gRegorLove Did I see there will be Hangouts/YouTube, or is it just BlueJeans today?
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[Rose] There was a hangouts link in a etherpad doc
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[Rose] https://etherpad.indieweb.org/activitypub
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Zegnat One room is BlueJeans, the other is Hangouts. Main room (lounge) was also hangouts. The hangouts also have plain youtube links for just watching
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Zegnat I see the YT link in the channel topic is offline now, but can’t update from phone right now. So if someone could take it away
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[Rose] Which link? I don't want to delete the wrong one
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[chrisaldrich] I'll catch it in a minute. Rebooting as bluejeans has crashed my machine somehow.
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[Rose] The only one I can see is the hangouts one
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[kevinmarks] I think they shut off streams during lunch, as they were from people's laptops
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[chrisaldrich] Can we update the topic from slack now?
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gRegorLove I'll update with live links when they're back
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dougbeal chrisaldrich: tantek did get a photo of the grid
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[chrisaldrich] Here's a hangout link for the bored remote attendees: https://hangouts.google.com/call/svqWjWSlXz_Mh5qHeTYmAAEE
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Loqi next session
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dougbeal Live at https://bluejeans.com/808107735/
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dougbeal Right now: IndieWebCamp NYC! Video Conf Room: https://bluejeans.com/808107735/
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dougbeal Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup
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dougbeal https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of
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dougbeal conduct:
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dougbeal https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log
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dougbeal https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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dougbeal oops
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dougbeal Right now: IndieWebCamp NYC! Video Conf Room: https://bluejeans.com/808107735/ Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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Zegnat dougbeal++
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Loqi dougbeal has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (14 in all channels)
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gRegorLove Direct webrtc link: https://bluejeans.com/808107735/webrtc
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gRegorLove Will BlueJeans be recorded?
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[chrisaldrich] #buildingblocks etherpad: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/buildingblocks
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Zegnat gRegorLove: i don't think so.
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[chrisaldrich] [Rose] the Micropub server in 30 minutes session and video can be found at https://indieweb.org/2018/Baltimore/micropub
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[Rose] Awesome, thanks!
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GWG Never mind
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GWG Two windows
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[shurcool] Where can I find a link to share with someone to show them what’s happening at IWC NYC live-ish?
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dougbeal shurcool: https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC/Sessions#Friday
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dougbeal Is there a bluejean way to record it?
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[chrisaldrich] [Rose] looks like your feed at https://granary.io/url?url=https://www.rosemaryorchard.com/blog.atom&input=html&output=atom&hub=https://bridgy-fed.superfeedr.com/ has gone wonky?
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snarfed [chrisaldrich] [Rose] that granary url reads an atom feed from rose's web site but then tries to interpret it as html, so yeah, won't work
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snarfed looks like https://www.rosemaryorchard.com/blog.atom is already atom. no granary needed.
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[Rose] Ahh
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dougbeal 163WM-RM243@video.pace.edu
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snarfed welcome!
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tantek [shurcool]: indieweb.org/live is the evergreen-ish link for that sorta thing
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[shurcool] Thanks!
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gRegorLove Updates when YouTube goes live, but not others afaik
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[schmarty] we're in the room with bluejeans as our livestream/video conference at the moment, which doesn't automatically update indieweb.org/live
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aaronpk we're on the same meeting ID the whole day though
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[schmarty] oh true
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dougbeal|mb1 activitypub attendees, add yourself https://etherpad.indieweb.org/activitypub
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dougbeal|mb1 http://phlntn.com/stuff/emojibuilder/ lets you remix emojis, you can easily create something monstrous
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tantek found it! indiemon brainstorming design starts here: https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-07-14#t1468465361878000
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Loqi [tantek] geofenced posts work as indiemon
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dougbeal|mb1 Could someone capture the IndieMon wall notes?
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[chrisaldrich] Next session on #dataportability is staring now; https://etherpad.indieweb.org/dataportability with streaming video at https://bluejeans.com/808107735/webrtc
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aaronpk new youtube link as well
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aaronpk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OCajjcuigY
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snarfed lurks the data transfer conversation, for bridgy
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tantek yay! glad to see snarfed here for this
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Loqi woot
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Downes yay cat photos
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[eddie] I was so confused. I was watching the end of the badges session and then was transferred to a different room and it wasn't until Maha started talking that I realized I was transferred back in time! πŸ•°
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[eddie] YouTube glitch when the YouTube stream was stopped and started in between sessions I guess lol
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[eddie] I know. I was like "Why is the security turning people away in the afternoon?"
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[schmarty] eddie: woah weird
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[eddie] So now I'm actually able to watch the data portability lol
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aaronpk thanks youtube
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[eddie] lol yep
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snarfed yes! comments in data transfer project for backfeed!
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snarfed (pls show her https://brid.gy/ obviously)
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snarfed also likes, reposts, etc. all interactions!
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snarfed re comment ownership, legalities, etc: https://indieweb.org/backfeed#Storage.2C_legal.2C_data_ownership.2C_UX...
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snarfed funny. if FB allows functionality in data transfer project but not API, wouldn't all developers just use data transfer project to get around that?
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snarfed (general question for all data transfer participating silos)
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snarfed (cc [schmarty] etc to raise. not urgent.)
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snarfed [schmarty]: or eg just posting!
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snarfed πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­...ie, status quo
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[schmarty] haha yeah 😭
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snarfed if it only uses public APIs, then afaict it *can't post* to FB, G+, etc
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snarfed (among other things)
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[schmarty] snarfed: yep, that's the consensus, though there is apparently discussion from facebook's team to maybe give DTP new kinds of access?
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snarfed sure. high hopes. meh.
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[schmarty] meh++
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Loqi meh has 1 karma over the last year
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tantek__ just asked for reciprocity in if a service exports data, then it should also import it
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tantek__ using Google+ as an example :)
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snarfed yup, nice request...but so far this thing can just be a small side project for all silos since it only uses public APIs. as soon as it wants to do more, then it needs approval by totally different parts of those orgs, much closer to the center, product, policy, etc. which is much less likely.
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snarfed we'll see.
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tantek__ snarfed, my point is the "only uses public APIs" and reciprocity requirements are in conflict
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snarfed ah. yes! exactly. and the people who would need to approve that are (i expect) not part of DTP, and will be harder to convince
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snarfed regardless, glad she came to IWC!
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sknebel attempts to listen to the youtube stream from train wifi
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[chrisaldrich] Off to an afternoon meeting... back in a bit. Thanks folks!
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dougbeal|mb1 Has readers started?
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jgmac1106 https://ivory-policeman.glitch.me
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tantek lol
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[eddie] Yep. I just checked and it's on YouTube as Live
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[eddie] in the Factory Room
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dougbeal|mb1 Oh, so hangouts isn't working?
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[eddie] Ohhh I'm not sure. I've only been using YouTube
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sknebel the stream labelled "build a website"?
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[eddie] That's a separate session on getting started with a website
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sknebel ok, found the right one
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sknebel thx
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dougbeal aaronpk: hangouts link isn't showing live feed, is it supposed to?
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wakest[m] aaron is working on it
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dougbeal new hangouts worked, thanks aaronpk
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dougbeal new hangouts link (readers): https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ixjzc7xq5nfmheabidk6cwmyxqe
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-28.html
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[schmarty] tantek,aaronpk: can we add the group photo before the newsletter goes out?
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aaronpk ifi can find my SD card reader!
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tantek__ [schmarty]: looks like the newsletter got the photo from last night at least https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-28.html
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aaronpk I just added it
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aaronpk all the oxford ones are going to be counted first tho
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tantek__ as they should
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aaronpk maybe we can bump that photo of the projector to make room for IWC NYC
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tantek__ ok
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tantek__ done!
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jackjamieson Great sessions today! I'm getting offline now and will be back tomorrow
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2018-09-28.html
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aaronpk A bunch of us are getting tacos at Lunchadores nearby since the bar had minimal food
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