#indieweb 2018-09-30

2018-09-30 UTC
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[jgmac1106] is a read post, where you criticize an article a form of "dumping" if you share the post on social media?
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[jgmac1106] "dunking"
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gRegorLove Not sure. I think it depends whether it's more of a short zinger or a more in-depth critique.
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[jgmac1106] [schmarty] lead a wonderful debate ont he difference between read, like, and bookmark today, and I consider a read post an action...that can include a reaction
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GWG jgmac1106, assume you got.on.
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[jgmac1106] yes I did and thanks for taking me to a Jewish Deli for dinner, perfect way to end a trip to NYC, glad I missed the train
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[jgmac1106] I seperate it from a reply in my mind as a desire to engage the author in a discussion
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gRegorLove Ooh, no fair. I want to hear that debate.
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[jgmac1106] kidding, we actually all decided to buckle down and as the compressed schedule forced us to build quick
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jeremycherfas Sorry I missed all the fun.
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[grantcodes] Interesting. Tim Berners-Lee has a new decentralized own your own data project with very similar ideas to the indieweb
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[grantcodes] https://solid.inrupt.com/
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[grantcodes] "Think of your Solid POD as your own private website, except that your data interoperates with all your apps, which means you have your own personal API to go along with it."
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Zegnat What is SOLID?
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Loqi Solid is a decentralized file system and protocol designed to power decentralized social applications and linked data https://indieweb.org/Solid
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Zegnat Not new. Just rebranded and moved to this "inrupt"
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Zegnat Solid << https://solid.inrupt.com/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://solid.inrupt.com/" to the "See Also" section of /Solid https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52287&oldid=26533
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Zegnat Also: good morning IndieWeb!
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[grantcodes] Ah well new to me 😅 wonder if it'll get any traction.
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sknebel good morning indieweb!
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Zegnat Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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[kevinmarks] http://blog.geocities.institute/archives/6144
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Loqi “is death for WEB sites as us” ⁋ by olia
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[schmarty] Good piece on geocities and how to kill a community by taking away tools
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4wjsAuaq.jpg
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[eddie] Loqi? Did that come from spam?
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Zegnat Probably
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Zegnat Loqi sees all spam. Because of having to filter it. But that means spam can accidentally trigger other things.
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Zegnat Especially right now as the spam seems to evolving into just parrotting sentences said by real people :/
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jeremycherfas Almost everything I read seems to be just parrotting sentences said by other real people
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aaronpk Yes Loqi is racking up quite the collection of those in the logs. But spam talk is better for #indieweb-meta, otherwise the spammers win
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[eddie] I added a “Feedback” page to the Indigenous for iOS website. http://indigenous.abode.pub/ios/feedback/ Essentially people can send reply posts to it instead of Emails or GitHub when they have bug reports or suggestions for the app.
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Loqi Indigenous for iOS Feedback
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[eddie] Eventually my goal is to be able to turn the replies to that page into a development roadmap
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aaronpk What awesome
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aaronpk kinda like a mini issue tracker?
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[eddie] Yep, exactly
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[eddie] I want to emulate https://changemap.co
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[eddie] So all the replies to the “project page” or “feedback page” become a suggestion. Then I want to be able to edit the category of suggestion to put it into a grouping. Each suggestion will become it’s own page so you can reply to suggestions or vote with reacji
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[eddie] We’ll see how it goes 🙂 Step one is just being able to receive feedback
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[eddie] In the next version of Indigenous I’m adding a “Feedback” button in the settings page and if you click that it’ll open up a new post that automatically has the Indigenous feedback page as what it is replying to
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[eddie] So it’ll be a shortcut so people don’t have to know the url of the feedback page if they just want to send me their thoughts
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jacky does that page also work for Android?
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[eddie] Not currently because the experiment is just starting. But it might if swentel is interested in using it as well. (Although url would be different because that url has iOS in it, so it would probably be the same thing but down the Android url path)
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swentel hmm what's the context ?
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[eddie] Poof! And he appears 🙂
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[eddie] For Indigenous for iOS, I’ve created a page that people can send webmentions to as a way to provide feedback
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jacky (which is awesome, btw!)
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swentel oh, in the app itself ?
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[eddie] Yes but not only in the app. But I’m gonna have a shortcut button that essentially opens up the posting interface with the feedback url preset
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[eddie] At first the feedback will just come in my notifications in my reader but they will also be saved so I can make a roadmap with them
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[eddie] So if you would like to use the same stuff for Indigenous for Android, I can add the page there as well.
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swentel on indigenous.adobe.pub/android then ?
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[eddie] Yeah indigenous.abode.pub/android/feedback
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swentel hmm not a bad idea, not everyone probably likes creating an issue on github, or even know that that is .. :)
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[eddie] Exactly. The goal is to remove GitHub issues as a public tool
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[eddie] Over time. For some it’s more convenient
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aaronpk is very excited for this idea
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[eddie] ponders if I should build it out separately from the actual website so it can be reused by others
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[eddie] Probably lol
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swentel haha indieback.org :)
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[eddie] Back?
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swentel indie(feed)back.org
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[eddie] Ohhhh
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swentel nevermind, stupid joke :)
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[eddie] Haha gotcha
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[eddie] Not stupid. I’m just tired. lol
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swentel heh
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Zegnat indieback.org - where you add your itches for developers to scratch?
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Zegnat That does sound wrong ...
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swentel hehehe
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aaronpk shakes head
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[eddie] Hahaha that is kind of funny though
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Loqi nice
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[eddie] I didn’t even think about the itch comparison
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Zegnat I just thought of back scratchers and tried to make that work as a slogan. But after I wrote it, I thought it was a bit cringy.
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aaronpk I really need to make more collection posts
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aaronpk I keep forgetting that my site supports it
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[jgmac1106] I sticking with "setting your own goals." What you describe @segnat is /Sawyering
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[jgmac1106] @zegnat
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[jgmac1106] https://vialogues.com/vialogues/play/46559 seems like a micropub solution to time stamping and watching videos together could be similarly doable