#indieweb 2018-10-18

2018-10-18 UTC
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jacky Congrats!
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[tantek] jacky are you in #indieweb-chat?
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[dmitshur] congrats kiai!
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gRegorLove Starting the vHWC Hangout a bit early to give people time to join/share the link: https://hangouts.google.com/call/PX9MmqGDun2HsbkCkgtOAAEE
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[tantek] At HWC SF with Evo (from IWC SF)
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[dave] At vHWC remote from rainy shitty watery ruins of what's left of Fort Worth, Texas
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[tantek] We're talking about web hosting challenges
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dougbeal What is Perkeep
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Loqi Perkeep (formerly Camlistore) is a blob based storage system written in Go that can store many types of files and data in a distributed fashion https://indieweb.org/Perkeep
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dougbeal Perkeep >> Importers https://github.com/perkeep/perkeep/tree/master/pkg/importer
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gRegorLove Discussing some privacy policy and GDPR stuff at vHWC
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gRegorLove And emoji domains. Trying to remember cleverdevil's domain for his grill, haha
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[dave] what is duckboat?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/duckboat
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[eddie] I think it’s 🔥
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[eddie] .ws
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[eddie] 🤔
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gRegorLove dougbeal, Other direction with the arrows :)
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dougbeal gRegorLove: No wonder it didn't work:)
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gRegorLove vHWC wrapped up
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[tantek] woot!
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Loqi woot
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[Rose] Good morning
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Loqi *yawn* ... /stretch/
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[Rose] Also: Loqi is definitely sentient
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jeremycherfas Good morning
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aaronpk good morning!
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Loqi aaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 8 hours, 21 minutes ago: Swarm added “saved places”, would be a nice upgrade to OwnYourSwarm! 😁
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aaronpk huh I haven't seen that feature yet
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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dansup Zegnat: good morning!
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dansup aaronpk: I had to delay the pixelfed federation release due to HTTP Signature bugs, I think i will use this https://github.com/aaronpk/Nautilus/blob/master/app/ActivityPub/HTTPSignature.php. Thanks!
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Zegnat I feel like I had many very productive IndieWeb discussions yesterday, and now I want all IWCs to be ~5 days long.
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dansup I am considering webmentions for https://pixelfed.social
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Zegnat Webmentions would be nice!
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Zegnat dansup can you tag people in photos on pixelfed? Tagging someone who isn't s pixelfed user but does have a URL is already a great use case for webmentions
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dansup yes, it works via webfinger so @zegnat@example.org would try to discover the ActivityPub actor, or webmention endpoint
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jacky 💯
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jacky dansup: you've been working hard at it - pretty great to see it all come together!
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dansup jacky: thanks! I can't wait to release federation support and the new features!
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AkyRhO_ Good morning Indieweb
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AkyRhO_ as suggested by jgmac1106 a few days ago, i'm playing with FrancisCMS
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AkyRhO_ if anyone already migrated a wordpress blog to FrancisCMS i'd be happy to have a chat
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Zegnat What is FrancisCMS?
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Loqi FrancisCMS is an IndieWeb-friendly content management system built with Ruby on Rails https://indieweb.org/FrancisCMS
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sl007 @aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/Nautilus is nice - just btw : made JSON Schemas for ActivityPub : https://github.com/redaktor/ActivityPubSchema - e.g. my thing uses them to create forms as well as to validate input.
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Loqi [aaronpk] Nautilus: Turn your website into an ActivityPub profile
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aaronpk dansup: please do steal that code! That's why I published it!
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aaronpk It'd be great to see tagging people by url too not just email address
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jacky sl007: nice!
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[Rose] Wow I’m looking forward to this.
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[eddie] Nope
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[jgmac1106] [AkyRhO] You can check the /Ruby page
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[AkyRhO] [jgmac1106] I did, I'm just looking for hints before I start migrating a whole wordpress blog into FrancisCMS
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[jgmac1106] answering in dev but from what I remember reading up on you first have to convert the data into some other format and then import
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[jgmac1106] If any other academics Compsci, edu, or any other field need a pub I need to crank on this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrk6mdthl1ow3x4/McVerry_Proposal.pdf?dl=10
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[Rose] I'm not an academic, I just work in academia 😛
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] or anyone welcome if you want to write an academic piece about IndieWeb @CathieLeBlanc
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[dave] [aaronpk] any recommendations on hosting a Nautilus instance? I use shared hosting from HostGator for the bulk of my projects but I feel like there’s a gap in my knowledge when it comes to setting up and deploying modernish things like this.
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skippy the /note wiki page has lots of self-reported examples of people displaying their notes. Curious if anyone has a unique or clever display of notes not captured on the wiki?
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dougbeal|mb1 Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] @skippy the markup is pretty standardized. Do you mean just on display for personal sites? I combine a bunch of post types into my "Stream*
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skippy jgmac1106: yes, display. I have my posts separate from my notes.
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skippy just curious how others do.
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jgmac1106 I like cards, even though many are shaking their heads: http://jgregorymcverry.com/stream/
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jgmac1106 but I combine: notes, replies, likes, and quotes into one stream
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jgmac1106 here is just notes: http://jgregorymcverry.com/kind/note/
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skippy i havent been writing as many articles, so a stream would push all those to the bottom, as notes crowd up the top
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jgmac1106 yeah I seperate articles to a different feed
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jgmac1106 I also publish cards for my recent articles on my homepage
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skippy aye. thanks.
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skippy gotta run.
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[Rose] Agreed
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snarfed swentel: dansup: we should try https://fed.brid.gy/ with pixelfed!
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swentel snarfed, .social ?
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snarfed oh, any instance
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swentel oh right
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swentel it's federated haha
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swentel I guess it might be interesting to figure out how they do post discovery
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swentel which might influence the decision whether we're going to go for atom feeds or not, or really start doing AP posts ?
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snarfed heh, yes
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snarfed i guess we should maybe just bite the bullet and aim toward full AP
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swentel it would probably make more sense in terms for documentation
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swentel otherwise we'd have to document things like : "if you're replying, use a webmention to bridgy", "all other things should use a hub and you need to ping your hub"
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snarfed right. not ideal
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swentel I think getting accept in seems logical now, then your mastodon user should follow since it's on another instance
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swentel and then I can experiment what minimal we need to make sure posts show up for my and your mastodon user
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swentel from my bridgy account
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snarfed agreed
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swentel as for user discovery issue, I think the documentation only needed there should be something like "Interact with mastodon once, and you'll be discovered at some point" That's all there really is (should be #dev talk I guess)
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swentel if there's no account mastodon will create one, and sync with other instance (seen that code too many times now haha)
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jacky skippy: I'm working on a display for notes today
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jacky has been up kinda anxious since pup's still in the vet hospital
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[tantek] -> meta
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[dmitshur] the repo did not exist in advance, it got created as I pushed:
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[dmitshur] http://instantshare.win/uo9vrs7n6slp.png
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aaronpk [dave] good question, i've only really deployed that kind of stuff on a full server, not in shared hosting yet
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aaronpk I do want to see if I can get my blog platform able to be installed on something like dreamhost, but i'm a ways out from actually going down that road
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[jgmac1106] Totally forgot about it. Only 6k words and I have bits and pieces everywhere but welcome co authors [jackjamieson] [Rose] [Kayaelle] @Downes [wiobyrne]
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jgmac1106 [jacky] I saw the note about the paw, hope there is no nerve damage and you are just stuck with a conehead for a few days
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gRegorLove Next events: IndieWebCamp Nuremberg https://indieweb.org/2018/Nuremberg, Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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[cleverdevil] For anyone who uses Drafts on iOS - https://actions.getdrafts.com/a/1QC
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[cleverdevil] Enjoy!
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dougbeal cleverdevil++ noice
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Loqi cleverdevil has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (73 in all channels)
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[cleverdevil] Interesting.
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[Vanessa] [cleverdevil] Fab, thanks. I just need to get micropub working. ☹ Currently I'm using a post html action from Drafts to WordPress - although that only seems to work from my phone, from my iPad it includes all the html, and doesn't convert it. Logical, huh!
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