#indieweb 2018-11-03

2018-11-03 UTC
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vilhalmer yep
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vilhalmer and since they're deleting the oldest stuff, it's the stuff least likely to be backed up elsewhere
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[dave] That reminds me, I need to get my archive team warrior box running again.
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jeremycherfas The download options are there for all those historic images; whether the “owners” will use them and reshare is anybody’s guess.
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[tonz] g’morning indieweb. Looking fwd to catching some of IWC Berlin on videostream today.
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[tonz] [tantek] I’m ok with the changes as it focuses/clarifies what the service actually is, (I was highly uncomfortable with the free 1TB tier by Yahoo, and kept paying my subscription), I’m less ok with the communication of those changes. As in, my renewal comes up in 3 weeks, and because I though ‘hey that seems a higher price’ and started searching I found out they had announced the price change (100% hike) in July, and came across the cap on
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[tonz] be a 200 image cap in the early days). The 100% price increase was a reason to think about what matters to me re Flickr, so I wrote that up incl thoughts about alternatives. https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/11/flickr-account-changes-and-bringing-things-home/
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[tonz] [tantek] the CC angle is important to me: both in using CC images from others, and being able to give cc images back in a place where they are more likely to be found and used.
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[tonz] [tantek] for now I’ll stick with Flickr (not likely I’ll create an alternative set-up within the next few weeks before my subscription needs renewal), but keeping an eye on Pixelfed too now.
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[tonz] hi all, is there a live stream from IWC Berlin yet, if so where can I find the URL?
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aaronpk Not live yet
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aaronpk kaja should announce it soon
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[tonz] ok, will you post the url here or on a wikipage (the Berlin schedule one?)
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aaronpk Yep kaja will drop it in here if one of us doesn't
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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Zegnat Your friendly IRC notes are about to start :D
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Kaja___ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy5djnHtbvE
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aaronpk Thanks Kaja!
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Mike1 I am here!
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Zegnat Tantek is leading us in
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[jgmac1106] Just a stream correct or is it two way?
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Zegnat The co-organisers are introduced: tantek, jkphl, and Yulia
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Zegnat This is just a stream
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Zegnat IndieWeb CoC and Mozilla Community Guidelines are being introduced.
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Zegnat Please contact any of the organisers if there are issues!
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[jgmac1106] Sweet don't have to get dressed yet
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Zegnat We’ll have 1 keynote, and then introductions will be done. Introduce yourself anyway you want, your website, something you recently did, or your interests in being here
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Zegnat (If remotes want to intro, let me know!)
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Zegnat About 50% of the group has never been to an IWC
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Zegnat jkphl mentions the other events in town: beyondtellerand and the accessibility club event he runs.
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Zegnat The accessibility club sign-up is still open!
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Zegnat https://accessibility-club.org/
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Loqi Accessibility Club Conference
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Zegnat Yulia welcomes us to the (new-ish) offices
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Zegnat Introducing some of the tools we use, like the chat
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Zegnat HELLO people!
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Mike1 Hello!!
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jgmac1106 hello, [zegnat] can ypu repost the youtube link?
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Zegnat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy5djnHtbvE
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[tonz] good morning all! following remote.
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Zegnat Should be it
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jgmac1106 morning [tonz], thx power went down last night so IRC wasn’t open
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Zegnat Introducing /discuss, all the ways to access chat :D
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Zegnat Schedule today: welcome, intros, barcamp style planning, 1 session, photo, lunch, afternoon sessions
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Zegnat We’ll be closing up at 18:00
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Zegnat aaronpk, takes the podium for a keynote on the social reader
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Zegnat aaronpk, co-founder and portland-organiser, http://aaronparecki.com/
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Zegnat Points out how Facebook has been deciding what you see on your stream for a while, Instagram has started doing this, Twitter changed the timeline to being algorithmical rather than in time order too
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Zegnat IndieWeb community has been working on being able to take back control over those experiences
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Zegnat Screenshot of Google Reader. (Nostalgia <3)
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Zegnat But the RSS experience never really went further than just the screen for reading.
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Zegnat Twitter/Facebook took off because of the more social interaction with the content
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Zegnat Screenshot of Twitter. Showing the actions buttons you can click to automatically do something, like reply.
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Zegnat Historically reading has been a problem for us. Publishing has been fine, blogging has been fine, and even commenting has been working for a while now.
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Zegnat Screenshot of Monocle.
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Zegnat What is Monocle?
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Loqi Monocle is an open source IndieWeb-enabled reader developed by Aaron Parecki https://indieweb.org/Monocle
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Zegnat The content of aaronpk’s Monocle comes from all over the place. RSS, blogs, Twitter,... and the reader has the action buttons for the social interactions
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Zegnat Replies sent from the reader are actually posted onto his website - because that is where he publishes and would have published even without the reader
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Zegnat Showing Indigenous as other apps that can do this same thing
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Zegnat What is indigenous?
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Loqi Indigenous is a set of native apps for iOS and Android currently in beta that supports posting your website using Micropub and a built-in reader that supports Microsub https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
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Zegnat The content gets to live anywhere, including some place you own rather than only on silo servers
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Zegnat What is silo?
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Loqi A silo, or web content hosting silo, in the context of the IndieWeb, is a centralized web site typically owned by a for-profit corporation that stakes some claim to content contributed to it and restricts access in some way (has walls) https://indieweb.org/silo
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Zegnat Showing sketches of Together
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Zegnat Now a screenshot of it
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Zegnat What is Together?
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Loqi Together is a reader that was initially conceived at the 2017 IndieWeb Summit in Portland by Jonathan LaCour and several others during the Putting it all together session https://indieweb.org/Together
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Zegnat Switching over to Aperture
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Zegnat What is Aperture?
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Loqi Aperture is an open source Microsub server developed by Aaron Parecki https://indieweb.org/Aperture
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Zegnat Aperture will provide the place that can fetch all these external data sources and feed it to a reader
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Zegnat There are other implementations to
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Zegnat What is MicroSub?
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Loqi Microsub provides a standardized way for reader apps to interact with feeds https://indieweb.org/microsub
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Zegnat What is building blocks?
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Loqi Building blocks are key design-patterns, technologies, and methods for building and improving your independent website https://indieweb.org/building-blocks
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Zegnat Easiest way to get started with the readers is to grab the WordPress plugin
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Zegnat That will connect with Aperture immediately.
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Zegnat The Aperture website also has instructions for connecting other sites to it.
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Zegnat If you want to implement it yourself, the wiki contains a lot of information on the technical parts
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Zegnat Intros~
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Zegnat tantek.com
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Zegnat Been posting since 2010, mostly text, occasionally photos
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Zegnat Many replies to places outside: Twitter, GitHub
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Zegnat Trying to post more and more things to his own site
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Zegnat Lots he could do better: e.g. there is no pagination
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Zegnat To go back in time, go to the last post on the homepage, and then press the back button to go one by one
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Zegnat Up next: jeremycherfas
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Zegnat Oops
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Zegnat Up next: adactio
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Zegnat Jeremy Keith
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Zegnat Used to use delicious, magnolia, etc, but now has his own link section after learning his lesson
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Zegnat Notes get copied to his Twitter
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Zegnat Got a lot of small things added at IndieWebCamps
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Zegnat Shows his recent blogpost
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Zegnat https://adactio.com/journal/14452
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Zegnat It has the whole response from Peter (ruk.ca) under the article, made available by Webmentions
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Zegnat First name-drop of Bridgy, which gives him webmentions from Twitter to display
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Zegnat He still does replies on Twitter and other places, and would like to also start doing those from his own site
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Zegnat Next up aaronpk
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Zegnat aaronparecki.com
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Zegnat Posts all sort of things
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Zegnat Shows the litted “LED Display” on top of the site
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Zegnat (schmarty accepts the challenge to make it “obscene”)
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Zegnat aaronpk, shows the blue dot on his latest checkin, which shows that he is still at the location he has checked in to
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Zegnat Next up: me
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sknebel shows his homepage
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sknebel with all the information
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sknebel shows how it also can be parsed with microformats
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sknebel describes his approach of adding data: everything he has put or would put on other sites should also be on his own
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Zegnat next up: tmiller
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Zegnat restarted HWC in NYC
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Zegnat after attending the IWC there
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Zegnat Shows some posts on rootedfromnature.com
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Zegnat Wants to work on a more personal site to have next to that more formal business site
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Zegnat Next up: schmarty
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Zegnat martymcgui.re
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Zegnat Does a weekly podcast about the IndieWeb
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Zegnat What is TWIIW?
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Loqi This Week in the IndieWeb is a weekly digest of activities of the IndieWeb community https://indieweb.org/TWIIW
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jgmac1106 i should have noterlive
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Zegnat Trying to make audio more accessible when publishing his podcasts on the web
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Zegnat Shows a MP3 file with subtitles attached on his site
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Loqi definitely
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Zegnat https://martymcgui.re/2017/10/17/205701/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Native HTML5 captions and titles for audio content with WebVTT
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Zegnat Odd bug: Chrome does not hide the audio controls and actually covers the subtitles
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jgmac1106 schmarty I can show you how to remove the audio controls
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Zegnat Shows the IndieWeb ring
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Zegnat Next up: jkphl
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Zegnat jkphl.is
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Zegnat Started 2014-01-01 for writing blog posts, got 6 of them
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Zegnat Shows webmentions creating comments on his articles
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Zegnat Are also pulled from other places: G+, or just a comment form on his site
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Zegnat Few weeks ago at IWC Nürnberg he built RSVP acceptance
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Zegnat Next up: julieannenoying.com
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Zegnat Displays a lot of photos, and puts a portfolio on top
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Zegnat Shows how Instagram likes are pulled into her websites copy of the galleries
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Zegnat Up next: GWG
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Zegnat david.shanske.com
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Zegnat Was using Swarm randomly yesterday to make sure it would work well with WordPress, as he is one of the big WP plugin developers
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Zegnat If you are already on WordPress, expect an update today
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Zegnat Shows a lot of interactions that can show up on WordPress posts
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Zegnat Syndication links. And recently: locations with maps
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Zegnat Next up: ferdeline.com
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Zegnat Ayden Férdeline, is here for policies. Intrigued by how much information some people are sharing on their pages
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Zegnat Next up: netzartist.de
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Zegnat His impressum page is the most content he has on his website
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Zegnat Found he did not have the time for blogging
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Zegnat runs frontend-rheinmain.de
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Zegnat Wants to bring front-enders together on a bimonthly meeting
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Zegnat Next up: yulia
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Zegnat hag.code
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Zegnat * hag.codes
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Zegnat Started because she thought she should have a web presence
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jgmac1106 brb NEEED coffee…if there are remote demos I will do one (grabs a shirt) or Zegnat can demo for me….we can also cut remote demos looking at how many there are
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Zegnat Not sure she wants to have the site as the blog it is right now, so will look at having something “different”
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Zegnat next up: jandinter.net
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Zegnat His page does not have a lot of links, he took them away when he noticed he really didn’t keep using those external services
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Zegnat Wants to change away from the minimal content this weekend
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Zegnat Next up: dylanharris.org
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Zegnat Has an “old-school website”
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Zegnat petermolnar: points out it isn’t old-school as it does not have an underconstruction sign
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Zegnat Next up: sam-d.com
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jgmac1106 this is the one place where old school websites get you bonus points
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Zegnat re-designed his website 2 days ago, inspired by this event
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Zegnat Also noted that blogging is hard to keep up
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Zegnat Next up: Aleksandr, no own website but wants to show a project he is working on
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Zegnat https://my.cloudron-dev.syn.im
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Zegnat It is a service that will help you run your server and install “apps”
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Zegnat But apps here are things like WordPress, Ghost, Wallabag, etc. Web platforms
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Zegnat Showing a test install that is Mastodon, which is now packaged for the Cloudron platform
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Zegnat And will hopefully soon be on the app store
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Zegnat petermolnar, is up next
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Zegnat petermolnar.net
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Zegnat 2 years ago his site was WordPress, and it is now semi-static
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Zegnat Wrote about bringing things outof his website again, countering bloat: https://petermolnar.net/making-things-private/
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Loqi [Peter Molnar] Content, bloat, privacy, archives
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Zegnat Then wrote https://petermolnar.net/running-a-static-indieweb-site/ about how he uses outside systems to keep everything together without having
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Loqi [Peter Molnar] Lessons of running a (semi) static, Indieweb-friendly site for 2 years
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Zegnat his site is open source
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Zegnat What is PASTA?
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Loqi PASTA is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish Anywhere, Save To (private) Archive, the practice of automatically saving a copy of whatever you post on (social media) silos to someplace else under your own control, like a private directory on your own server, or a local folder on your laptop that is less vulnerable to site-death https://indieweb.org/PASTA
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Zegnat https://github.com/petermolnar/silo.pasta
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Loqi [petermolnar] silo.pasta: A personal silo likes and favs archiver
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Zegnat A project for saving images and content from external places
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Zegnat Showing brid.gy, that he also uses
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Zegnat Does track his location but doesn’t do checkins, probably wants to do something in that area this weekend
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Zegnat Shows the build process of his website
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jgmac1106 have to say romantic theme…I was always thinking Pesos and Posse Espanol and the wild wild west (or indigineous genocide depending on perspective) of YS
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Zegnat Next up calumryan.com
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Zegnat Coming up to its 10 year anniversary
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Zegnat Recently upgraded the CSS
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Zegnat Was trying to pull in content from other places, but tries to get away from that so it goes the other way: from his website to other places
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Zegnat Recently updated checkin display because everyone keeps checking him in during events
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Zegnat Shows the different sections of his website for content creation, outside his homepage
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Zegnat Next up: svenknebel.de
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Zegnat Also been building the website mostly during IndieWebCamp events
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Zegnat 7th IWC, still some things he needs to work on
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Zegnat Using Micropub to his site, showing quill as a posting interface
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Zegnat Uses GitHub to login through IndieAuth.com
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Zegnat Fills in Quill, creates a demo post
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Zegnat This is how you can use external pieces without building everything yourself
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Zegnat Next up: toni.mattis.berlin
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Zegnat currently hosts his photos on Flickr, would like to start hosting that himself
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Zegnat Automatically deploys the website from git
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Zegnat Tries to do some URL hacking to show the markdown files behind the pages, but the Chromebook does not want to cooperate
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Zegnat Next up: sgreger sebastiangreger.net
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petermolnar message to Toni: you need to configure your webserver to serve .md as text/plain so it doesn't download
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petermolnar (and I can help with Flickr)
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Zegnat Had the domain for 15 years
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Zegnat Site runs on WordPress
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jgmac1106 excited about what I am reading about mining repositories and trying to use machine learning to track student learning of code…has nothing to do with his site but the content
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Zegnat Thanks to GWG and pfefferle for the plugins
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Zegnat Focussing on workflow: want to encourage himself to collect things on his site
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jgmac1106 Is [pferelle] there today?
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Zegnat (Not that I have seen, but I haven’t met everyone face-to-face yet)
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Zegnat Shows his privacy challenge post which has many replies
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Zegnat Shows the reply-to-the-reply
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Zegnat Next up: joelpurra.com
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Zegnat Several years ago he started pulling in data, wanted his site to be a “professional portal”
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Zegnat Pulls in all his programming projects from GitHub onto his site, with the number of stars they have, the programming language it uses, etc
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Zegnat Currently renders just the project README. But would like a way to have content around these projects
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Zegnat Turned away from blogging to code, but might be returning to blogging to give context to the code he is writing
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Zegnat Next up: rosson.com.au
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Zegnat There are really well-hidden links around there, not sure he remembers what exactly is on his page!
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Zegnat Ended up here by saying yes to things! :D
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Zegnat Next up: ohhelloana.blog
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Zegnat Been trying to blog more
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Zegnat Also does not have pagination (because does not have enough posts) but that could change!
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Zegnat Technical dificulties she wants to address this weekend
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Zegnat Next up: sonniesedge.co.uk
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Zegnat Was relying on many external services but wanted to bring them inhouse.
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Zegnat Changed from a static site generator that used those things to a CraftCMS based website
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Zegnat Used to have webmentions and likes on the page, but it is gone now that she deployed CraftCMS 3. The plugins aren’t there
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Zegnat Would be very happy with a PHP programmer that could help port over from the old version
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Zegnat Trying to post photos
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jgmac1106 What is CraftCMS?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "CraftCMS" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "CraftCMS is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat Bringing her talks pages to Craft was a challenge, MarkDown didn’t do it for those long pages
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Zegnat Next up: madebymike.com
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Zegnat .au
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Zegnat Been trying many SSGs, but not all his content feels like “pages” and all the SSGs seem to want a page per content thing
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Zegnat Next up: amberwilson.co.uk
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Zegnat Likes blogging, interested in pagination
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Zegnat Got IndieAuth going at her first IWC, and would now like to look at some other building blocks
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Zegnat Next up: sebsel
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Zegnat seblog.nl
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Zegnat Posted more new content between last IWC and now
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Zegnat Shows checkins up top
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Zegnat Has an issue with caching on his profile picture
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Zegnat Next up: bjvicks.com
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Zegnat Project he wants to show: independent-collectors.com
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Zegnat Another project: stilinberlin.de
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Zegnat He worked on the stilinberlin.de/map
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Zegnat Gets a newsletter popup: “I didn’t do that”
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Zegnat Next up: axel.nennker.de -> redirect to ignisvulpis.blogspot.com
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Zegnat Community member on OpenID
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Zegnat Did Firefox addons for OpenID
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Zegnat And wonders about IndieAuth and why the community here decided to go with something new like that
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Zegnat New Firefox WebExtensions framework makes it hard to do some of the identity stuff he would like to do
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[tonz] that sounds pretty cool1
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Zegnat Looking at DID Auth
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jgmac1106 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/03/here-is-my-demo-of-my-site for later viewing pleasure
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Zegnat From the “Rebooting the Web of Trust”
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] Here is my demo of my site http://youtu.be/ppc1zHbZKmw?hd=1 https://jgregorymcverry.com, my staging site https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/ and feed https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com
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Zegnat Also looking at WebAuthn for authentication, as it is build into browsers with an API
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Zegnat Next up: Bruna
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Zegnat No website
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Zegnat Shows fuzzify.me
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Zegnat Browser addon for tracking trackers/ads
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jgmac1106 fuzzify.me++
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Loqi fuzzify.me has 1 karma over the last year
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Zegnat https://radarlegislativo.org/
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Zegnat Tracking governments through APIs and rating them with sad/neutral/happy faces
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Zegnat next up: metafluff.com
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Zegnat Did a really nice letter effect, considers writing a blog post about how it works
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Zegnat https://metafluff.com/author/ for posts
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Zegnat Showing https://metafluff.com/2017/12/13/2017-summary/ ; living in Asia fulltime for a while made him realise how much the governments there affect the web
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Zegnat That is the end of intros
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Zegnat Thank you everyone!
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Zegnat We are going to quickly move on to sessioning, so I think we’ll forego remote intros for the moment :(
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Zegnat tantek takes the stage to introduce the sessioning
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Zegnat Slight schedule change: no sessions before lunch
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jgmac1106 bye all. I will come back once session starts. So inspired already by the intros alone
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Zegnat Should be 13:15 our time
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jgmac1106 I don’t think many Known users there but I will be hacking on plugins this weekend so happy to help in a “Getting Started: Building A Website” session, could cover micro.blog, Known. [gwg] happy to help on a WordPress session as well
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jgmac1106 …..first I have a chapter to finish….it was supposed to be done in Nuremberg…see you at 1:15
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[tonz] enjoy lunch. I decided to spend a few hours this weekend on better figuring out how and where I want microformats in my Wordpress site. And what parts of the MF plugin and Sempress functions I need/ can repurpose for that. https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/11/better-blending-of-micro-formats-with-wordpress-themes/
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[jgmac1106] tonz++ to getting more microformat compatible themes
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Kaja___ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0VZ5_LTZ_o
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Viaken[m] Zegnat++ for the intro info
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[kevinmarks] https://torrentfreak.com/swedish-isp-protest-site-blocking-by-blocking-rightsholders-website-and-more-181102/
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Loqi [Ernesto] Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsholders Website Too
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[pfefferle] [tonz] let me know if you have feedback regarding the mf2 implementations of SemPress/ZenPress
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Zegnat webauthn is closing up there are a few notes here: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/webauthn - leaving a link here for people to find
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[jgmac1106] [pfefferle] I know I had a question is people are using f SemPress/ZenPress not to use h-card widget bc each post will have an author h-card? or are people manually adding h-cards to their header and footer when we see duplicates?
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[tonz] [pfefferle] yes will do. First step for me is figuring out in detail what I want and what I think doesn’t work well enough for me.
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[tonz] [pfefferle] [jgmac1106] I use Sempress, and had 16 h-cards on my front page. One for each of 15 postings displayed there, all declaring a u-uid and point to my not-in-use author page url, and one h-card I put into a widget by hand, that I do intend as the authorative one. In the end I went into sempress functions.php and changed the way the author metadata gets displayed.
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] every post has an author h-Card by default
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[pfefferle] [tonz] sure, there are some problems with single user blogs and multiuser blogs regarding the author urls
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[jgmac1106] so if they use the sidebar h-card widget they need to make it representative or simply not display on post
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Kaja___ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfib9i0w_Ao
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Kaja___ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EaQXC6uP2Q
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] semantic linkbacks searches for the post author, so the widget will not be used
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[jgmac1106] [pfefferle] I think in [tonz] case he used a stream on homepage and the parsers could not tell which was his representative h-card with his hand rolled h-card in the widget...we should head to WordPress
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] if there is a post author it shouldn‘t search for the page/representative h-Card
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[pfefferle] [jgmac1106] [tonz] So I should add a way to use the main url as author url in the author h-Card?
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[jgmac1106] I think so, we need some way when people have a list of post on their home page so the author h-card on the homepage is representative. I was just trying to figure out for tutorials sake if I should say Do/do not/doesn't matter use the h-card widget or homepage and/or post with SemPress/ZenPress
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[tonz] [pfefferle] for me that would help, as I have multiple authors but they’re all me (just different logins used to post), and it’s really a single author site. But still, would that solve anything? As the widget I have on front / all pages is really the authorative one with all the relme’s etc. Which is the one I want any machine visiting to use.
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[tonz] (Currently I set the author link to link to my about me page, and it carries author mf, just not uid.)
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[pfefferle] [tonz] I understand your point, but my main focus was, that sempress works in any constellations and without customization required...
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[pfefferle] So I don‘t want to require widgets or anything else
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[pfefferle] The Webmention plugin works perfect with SemPress without anything you have to setup
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[pfefferle] [tonz] can you tell me which tool/usecase/... has problems with sempress?
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[tonz] Of course. I’m not assuming what I want should be part of the theme [pfefferle]. At issue is also my own lack of knowledge of what is where for which purpose, and what expected behaviour of related plugins etc would be because of it.
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[pfefferle] No problem :) just wanted to explain!
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[pfefferle] And I would love to understand your problem better, to be able make SemPress even more solid for every possible usecase
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[tonz] It’s often hard to pin down why a certain thing is happening, is it me / my theme / a plugin, is it the way a counterparty interprets things. Still learning to better see the diff layers in the lasagne. But as the lasagne is already cooked, the layers aren’t always visible or obvious to me 🙂
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[pfefferle] Feel free to ask as many questions as you have!
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[tonz] [pfefferle] re understand my problem…. the original issue was having 16 h-cards on my front page saying they were all authorative (uid to blame I concluded but now uncertain if that is the correct conclusions). 15 from blogposts on the frontpage, 1 in my sidebar. So I removed the author uid to be able to declare my blogs url as uid in the sidebar h-card. Works for me, but now I get feedback from others that it causes issues when they parse my site
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[tonz] declared properly. Still trying to figure out what precisely is the issue though. Different parsers get different results, so it’s hard for me to see what the expected stuff. Working through that now by reading microformat definitions in detail and map them onto my content with post its on the wall to understand what would be ‘proper’ before new attempts to tinker /‘fix’ things 🙂
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[tonz] So not expecting anything from you, first addressing my own knowledge gap
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[pfefferle] Can you give me some examples of parsers?
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jgmac1106 [grantcodes[ your spreadsheet is also a good hsitory of who was on what silo when it had a site-death
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[tonz] [pfefferle] I looked at the microformats.io ones, iwm.gregoreatworld.com/validate-h-card/ as well
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[pfefferle] Ok, but these are only validation tools
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[pfefferle] Any problems with webmentions or anything similar?
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[tonz] no, no problems with webmentions. Other than that I like to present them differently. More like pingbacks and trackbacks did in the day, citing a few hundred chars from around the mention. So I played with some of the semantic linkback functions to change some of that.
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[tonz] I had one site where my webmentions showed up wihtout author, but that turned out to be on the receivers end (Jekyll site)
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[pfefferle] Ok, but then I have to talk to the validator guys to better display that kind of implementation
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[pfefferle] Idiewebify.me works for example https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnotiz.blog
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deathrow1|absnt where's the meta-etherpad page? =)
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doubleloop aaronpk: does omniauth-indieauth still work?
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deathrow1|absnt https://etherpad.indieweb.org/berlin-censorship
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deathrow1|absnt that's where i am at the moment.
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[eddie] https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/03/4/photo/ 😆
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Loqi [Eddie Hinkle] The youngest IndieWebCamp remote attendee at IndieWebCamp Berlin: 3 months and 6 days old and already learning how to display responses on his website. https://eddiehinkle.com/media/61aa41ab8c047b8ebc658142d9ee6d56.jpeg
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[jgmac1106] eddie++
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jgmac1106 sorry I ditched out on the static site session, had to go make kids lunch, shipping them of off to grandmas so we can see some music tonihgt
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[eddie] Bridgy, Webmention and Microsub for the win.
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[eddie] I just got a notification of a response in my notifications channel. I saw who said it and what they said and replied in my reader. I assumed they were on Micro.blog or some similar IndieWeb platform
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[eddie] Turns out they were on Twitter
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[eddie] I had no idea and didn’t have to think about it or care where or what platform they were on. It all just worked
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swentel hehe
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swentel it's magic sometimes isn't it
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swentel of topic (and probably dev), does indieauth say something about expire / refresh tokens ?
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swentel can't really find anything
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[jgmac1106] @sl007 we have an indieweb team on glitch.com...working towards goal of having a blog one can launch from there or just grab a a building block or two. with your node.js you could surely help
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[jgmac1106] think I just replied to really old post sorry
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[eddie] It discourages them I believe, but yes, dev 🙂
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[eddie] I’ll see if I can find it and post link in dev, swentel
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swentel ok, need to run now though :)
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snarfed1 !tell eddie awesome story of unknowingly replying to twitter in your reader. warmed my heart. :P
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk Kaja++ for so diligently watching our YouTube channel and posting links to the new livestreams here
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