#indieweb 2018-11-15

2018-11-15 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Well New Haven HWC wrapping up...nobody wants to be filmed or photo...think the prospect of just demoing your first site was enough
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Great
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[jgmac1106] hello [arush]
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[arush] Hello all.
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GWG Hello, [arush]
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[arush] [jgmac1106] did you get my mention fromcustomerservant.com in reply to your editor blues posted? If so, was it helpful?
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[tantek] gregorlove lol that thread from bcrypt
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[tantek] what is nostalgia
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "nostalgia" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "nostalgia is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Twitter << Criticism of focus on bite-size info: https://twitter.com/_jordan_bates/status/1026289173433528320
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@_jordan_bates The bite-size nature of information on Twitter is an intractable problem with using the platform Regardless of how you use it, you're training your brain to salivate for constant milkduds of info from novel sources, sabotaging your ability to focus extendedly on books, etc (twitter.com/_/status/1026289173433528320)
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism of focus on bite-size info: https://twitter.com/_jordan_bates/status/1026289173433528320" to the "See Also" section of /Twitter https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53932&oldid=52752
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[jgmac1106] [arush] I did not see it in my notifications. I will check when I get home.
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[arush] [jgmac1106] I sent it directly to your website, and not your Twitter. I could not remember what your Twitter username was.
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[tantek] we're chatting / writing here at HWC SF
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[tantek] about 5 of us so far
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[jgmac1106] [arush] strange I did not get it https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/10/wysiwyg-editor-blues but I did get a webmention to someone responding to your post
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[jgmac1106] [arush] will have someone else send me a webmention to test.. I could have easily broke it when I was trying to remove some Open Graph stuff without knowing what I was doing... Need to revert my build
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[asuh] I’ll see if I can make it to vHWC in a couple of hours, probably late if I do show
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jgmac1106 @arush I think I figured it out. I can receive mentions as webmentions with the native comment plugin off but I can not receive replies as webmentions with native comments off. Which is no good as native comments on Known have become quite the spam vector as of late.
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[jgmac1106] [arush] i was wrong....oh wait you are at SF...I forgot my bad...
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[jgmac1106] not that I see
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[dave] Is the vHWC hangout posted yet?
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jgmac1106 [dave] just checked the event page no link yet
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gRegorLove It's still in an hour, right?
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gRegorLove Ah, it did get bumped back. Missed that.
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gRegorLove I can join in about 15 minutes.
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gRegorLove [dave], Want to start one and link it?
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[jgmac1106] yeah I don't have enough in me so I don't want to be running the hangout...no way I make it till end
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[dave] https://hangouts.google.com/call/yoYoqAz0Gp63QCtSPa78AEEE
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[tantek] [arush] still coming to HWC SF?
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jgmac1106 [dave] will be back
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[dave] I've got a sinus infection so I'm muted while sniffling and such. Still on though
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[chrisaldrich] I'll be there in a few. Running late from 7yo's soccer practice.
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[tantek] just went over https://indieweb.org/events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club#What topics here in SF
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[tantek] Jen Simmons is showing new grid layouts on here site
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[tantek] and showing how to inspect them using Firefox devtools
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[tantek] and what you've changed!
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[tantek] https://twitter.com/StuRobson/status/1062297806247997441
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@StuRobson this new 'changes' panel in @FirefoxNightly is 😍 in the url bar - about:config search for - devtools.inspector.changes.enabled double-click to go from false to true https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dr4KHnSXgAA-X5Q.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1062297806247997441)
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[chrisaldrich] [dave] are you around? There's a bunch of us here at vHWC.
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[jgmac1106] is there anyone here beyond Amanda and me?
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[chrisaldrich] gRegor was around....
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[dave] Yeah but I can only hear Amanda and sometimes Greg. Everyone else comes through sounding robo.
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[chrisaldrich] [dave] You might also be hearing some of Amanda's screen reader in the background...
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[dave] I hear that pretty clearly, but I meant robo as in bits and pieces of syllables really sharp and echoy
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gooooootime Are you guys in the same room irl or something?
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[dave] Not unless they are secretly my cats
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[chrisaldrich] gooooootime, a bunch of us are in a google hangout which is just above ^^
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[chrisaldrich] https://hangouts.google.com/call/yoYoqAz0Gp63QCtSPa78AEEE
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gooooootime Ah, cool
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[chrisaldrich] It's part of an occasional virtual Homebrew Website Club....
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[schmarty] Jen Simmons at HWC SF!! Awesome!!!
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[chrisaldrich] The last thing I updated on my website is to remove titles from highlights and annotations and to add CSS so that highlights/annotations show up on my site as a "highlight" yellow: https://hangouts.google.com/call/yoYoqAz0Gp63QCtSPa78AEEE
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[chrisaldrich] oops: here's the link: https://boffosocko.com/kind/annotation/
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[tantek] Paul demonstrated his new pauloppenheim.com!
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[tantek] and we're wrapping up! see you in two weeks!
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[chrisaldrich] Goodnight San Francisco!
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Loqi don't let the bed bugs bite
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[chrisaldrich] GWG's theme commits for 2016: https://github.com/dshanske/twentysixteen-indieweb/commits/master
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[jgmac1106] Who is schmarty?
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Loqi Marty McGuire is a freelance web developer in Baltimore, MD, USA https://indieweb.org/User:Martymcgui.re
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[asuh] https://inclusive-components.design/
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[jgmac1106] @ashu still chatting if you want to join
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[asuh] i’m here 🙂
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[asuh] lurking
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[chrisaldrich] several are lurking because of latency/drop outs on the audio....
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[asuh] audio not working
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[jgmac1106] I just quit it will get way better
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[jgmac1106] good night
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Loqi laila tov!
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jalcine who is paul
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jalcine :(
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jacky who is paul
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jacky thinks
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jacky who is jacky
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Loqi Jacky is a eager and avid supporter of the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/User:Jacky.wtf
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jacky well okay then
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[dave] Is paul set up on the wiki with the right meta stuff?
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jacky I don't think so
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[dave] who is dave
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[dave] who is dave
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Loqi Taco Dave is a front-end developer, puzzle author, taco critic, and IndieWeb newbie. His URI is dave goes the distance dot com https://indieweb.org/User:Davegoesthedistance.com
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[dave] I am now one step closer to living my best life.
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[dave] In vHWC [gRegorLove] brought up the concept of sort of "IndieWeb new year's resolutions". I don't really have a specific one, but I'm starting to adopt the bullet journal methodology and mixing it with the concept of agile sprint planning and hoping to use those to get my ideas into an action plan for Indie Web stuff and in general.
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jacky haha awesome
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jacky ooh that's interesting
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jacky I think I might post a note about some of mine
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[dave] I know I want to convert my homebrew CMS for my puzzle blog into a more indie-web-friendly site, but I need to do more research and split out specific tasks.
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[dave] Like I'd kinda like ActivityPub support so people can follow the site directly instead of me having to post from my mastodon instance.
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[dave] And I know I need to beef up my microformat usage as well.
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[dave] Will keep an eye out for your post [Jacky_See]
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[dave] argh Slack forced an @ of the wrong person
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[dave] jacky I meant
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jacky ;)
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jacky so like w.r.t: activitypub support
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jacky using something like https://fed.brid.gy can help
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[dave] I've heard good things about it. But that also reminds me that I still need to add webmentions support to it as well.
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gRegorLove Nice, [dave]. I tried Bullet Journal for a little bit last year. Kinda liked it, but didn't keep up with it unfortunately.
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jeremycherfas I’ve been doing it for a few years, but it has slowly evolved for me. Combination now of timetabling and, the newest wheeze, five projects only.
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gRegorLove Whoa, Jen Simmons at HWC SF, very cool!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Adding weather effects" https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/15/3/article/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "My newwwyear 2019 goals" https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/15/5/article/
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kisik21 What do e- and p- mean in h-entry classes? marked up vs. plain? should I use e-name class if my name contains markup?
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/15/10/note/
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[eddie] e means there is embedded content (html vs. plain text)
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[eddie] So I’m practice e-content is really the only e- property
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swentel [eddie], di you change something in the markup of your timeline ?
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swentel *did
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[eddie] I did
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swentel author info is not coming through anymore :/
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[eddie] Really?
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swentel http://xray.p3k.io/parse?expect=feed&url=https://eddiehinkle.com/timeline/
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swentel I use xray on my internal microsub endpoint to get your feed also
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swentel I know aaron did some commits regarding authors
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swentel but others are still fine though
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swentel individual posts are fine though
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[eddie] Ohhhh I see what it is
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[eddie] It’s a bug
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swentel hehe ok
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[eddie] Thanks! 👍
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[eddie] Should be fixed now
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swentel yes it's back :)
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[eddie] 🙌
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jgmac1106 great goals [eddie]
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi happy day
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[dave] good morning
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[eddie] Thanks jgmac1106
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[eddie] My other goal is to finish editing out episode of My Url Is! Lol I lost my AirPods and that’s severely inhibiting my editing time/ability
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[eddie] s/out/our
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jgmac1106 well what you really mean is your baby as you can’t edit out loud
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jgmac1106 we shouldn’t have talked for two hours….though it was fun
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jgmac1106 do you not have a type c 3.5 dongle? I can never ever spend that much money on wireless headphones that small…and you have a baby…dollars to donuts they are sitting in a diaper in a landfill somewhere
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jgmac1106 ooops thought this was chat
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[eddie] Hahaha! It was fun, but definitely added more editing work
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Loqi hehe
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[eddie] 🙂 no regrets
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[eddie] It’s nice that it’s snowing all day here! Really getting to enjoy my snowfall homepage!
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[eddie] One optimization is I’d love to use CSS to pull the content forward a little so I can make some of the snow fall behind things like photos. Make it feel more 3D
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jgmac1106 eddie allow flash on your site just for the holidays and embed all the snowflakes people make on http://snowdays.me/
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[tantek] flash--
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Loqi flash has -1 karma over the last year
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[chrisaldrich] [dave] In re: your resolution about bullet journaling and planning, you might want to take a look at [jgmac1106]'s work with Pomodoro and his tomato timer stuff which seems roughly similar.
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[chrisaldrich] Is it already time for our holiday themes?
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[chrisaldrich] What is a holiday theme?
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Loqi Holiday theme is a temporary custom CSS or other change in a website typically meant to visually indicate the celebration of a holiday or special occasion https://indieweb.org/holiday_theme
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jgmac1106 just first snow here
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jgmac1106 but ohh wow totally doing this
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[eddie] flash-- definitely
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Loqi flash has -2 karma over the last year
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[eddie] chrisaldrich yep! Already time for holiday themes!
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[chrisaldrich] The earliest holiday signal I've seen so far was the Hallmark Channel starting Christmas movie marathons the week before Halloween...
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jeremycherfas A belated Good Morning IndieWeb
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[dave] [chrisaldrich] will do -- thanks for the heads up
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[dave] I haven't done a holiday theme in a while, but I have a special one for my Haunted Mirror Maze puzzle section that I used to apply sitewide leadng up to Halloween.
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[eddie] Inspired by macOS Mojave's changing desktop wallpaper based on time of day, I'm tempted to change the colors and theme of my site to match the time of day of the visitor
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[eddie] Oh cool, [dave] Do you have a link we can check out?
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[eddie] or screenshot?
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[dave] More pressingly, I usually do a giant Puzzle Advent Calendar each year, and after skipping last year, I really ought to try to make one this year.
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[dave] https://thegriddle.net is the homepage, https://thegriddle.net/ppp is the one for my book Paranormal Puzzle Pack, and I believe https://thegriddle.net/haunted or https://thegriddle.net/hmm for the Haunted Mirror Mazes, but I can't recall offhand and my site is blocked from my workplace 😞
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[dave] There's also a custom theme on https://thegriddle.net/home for the profile section of my site, which needs an overhaul or some deletion or something.
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[eddie] oh cool! Yeah https://thegriddle.net/haunted is the one
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[eddie] Very cool! I like the custom one for 404 too
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[dave] 🙂
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[dave] The site is over 12 years old now and I need to start applying some of my newfound devops knowledge to make it easier to maintain.
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[dave] But yeah, Advent Calendar or '25 days of' things might be a cool train to jump on if anyone needs motivation to post or do indieweb stuff
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sknebel [eddie]: I think calumryan has background colors depending on weather and time
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[eddie] oh yeah?
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[tantek] [dave] I think we've discussed doing doing year end IndieWeb stuff like that before
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[eddie] Essentially, if there is a Holiday/Weather theme that would win out, but if not, then it would do time of day as long as the person doesn't have dark mode turned on. Dark Mode would override the time of day because the user has explicit said they want content to be dark
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[tantek] [dave] oh yeah we did do that for 2017 December! See https://indieweb.org/2017-12-indieweb-challenge
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[tantek] should we do one for 2018-12 also?
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[tantek] I'm kinda more excited about it this year
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[tantek] Also last year was quite the awesome end of year push
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[dave] I'm game
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[tantek] many things got advanced rapidly
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[tantek] great!
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[tantek] what is IndieWeb Challenge
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Loqi The IndieWeb Challenge is to collectively ship something IndieWeb-related every day of December! https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Challenge
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[tantek] ^^^ how does that definition sound to you [dave]? Good enough to re-use for 2018?
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[dave] Sure 🙂
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[tantek] awesome
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[dave] Made a 2018 page and changed the redirect
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[tantek] 🎉
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sknebel we also have calendar view in indienews now! https://news.indieweb.org/en/2018/12
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[tantek] sknebel but 404: https://news.indieweb.org/en/2018 😭
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[tantek] and 404 https://news.indieweb.org/en/ (should redirect to https://news.indieweb.org/en)
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ichoquo0Aigh9ie https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/11/14/quitting-instagram-shes-one-millions-disillusioned-with-social-media-she-also-helped-create-it
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Enhancing the Micropub experience with services" https://seblog.nl/2018/11/15/1/enhancing-the-micropub-experience
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sebsel I'm blogging too much
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KartikPrabhu no such thing ;)
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sebsel ah, [eddie] is still ahead of me on IndieNews
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sebsel guess it's fine :P
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[eddie] haha, the challenge is on, sebsel!
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[eddie] sebsel, that's so interesting. I am overloading syndicate-to in order to add my posts to channels in my server since no Micropub clients support channels
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[eddie] sebsel++
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Loqi sebsel has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (23 in all channels)
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sebsel on nice, that's the same thing!
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[eddie] yep! so cool to see the same ideas coalesce 😁
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[eddie] The services idea is a cool add on
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aaronpk Remember when I was blogging and posting to indienews every day during my 100days project haha
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[tantek] aaronpk January 1 is coming up again 😄
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sebsel 30 is the most days of IndieWeb I will take on from now
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sebsel Last time I got 43?
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aaronpk It was only possible because I didn't have a job
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aaronpk also omg 100 days is a lot of days
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sebsel 45 even! But that still felt as failure
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sebsel 30 is do much more doable
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[tantek] I had a failure at the start of this year too
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[Vincent] Followed up yesterdays blog post with a few tweaks that reduced my complexity and build time for outputting Webmentions to send https://vincentp.me/articles/2018/11/15/21-30/
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Loqi [Vincent Pickering] Tweaking Frontmatter for sent Webmentions
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